MS Office for Mac iWork, which is Keynote (Powerpoint like) and Pages (Word like) Note: I believe iWork is about $100
Full apps included:
Comic Life - not sure (comic strip writer?)
GarageBand - looks like a nifty music writer, sound recorder thingy
iCal - calendar app
iChat - see name
iDvd - player
iMovie HD - make your own dvds
iPhoto - photo album (I don't know if it can Photoshop type stuff or not)
iTunes - I think everyone knows this one (but I discovered that ESPN Sportscenter commercials are free!)
iWeb - make your own web page
Mail - email (just figured out how to considate yahoo and comcast email)
OmniOutliner - don't know
Preview - previews print jobs, can show Adobe, maybe other things
Photo Booth - picture taking with the built in camera, some effects, maybe more
Quicktime
Address Book
Calculator, Dictionary, TextEdit (notepad like)
Safari - web browser
There are also some neat widgets installed.
I think I got all of the major items. I've only had it a month, so I'm still kicking it around. I did buy iWork (though at the educational price) and Keynote is pretty damn sweet. I did a presentation to my (grad) infosec class last week and a number of people wanted to know what I the presentation on. Also didn't take too long to learn.
"Apple for using DRM on iTunes because they are assuming you are going to be a criminal and file share your downloads."
This would be mostly because the RIAA companies required it. As for independent artists, I don't know (I don't use iTunes), but if they are also DRM'd then I agree that's wrong (unless the artist asks for the DRM).
Just sayin' because a lot of people here seem to think Apple hoisted DRM on iTunes just for the fun of it.
I know I'm late on this one, but the pro-Vista article is basically "now Windows does OS X" and doesn't crap out quite so much anymore. And I love the last argument- "you have no choice". At this point, yeah, I do. The work arounds may be clumsy and take more time, but I don't HAVE to shovel monkey poo down as food.
I grew up with an Apple II+, then upgraded to an Amiga until college. Been with Windows since, but my wife just bought me a Macbook Pro Intel for Christmas, and I just have to say you need to check out OS X. I don't want to sound like a fanboy, but this stuff just works. I've ordered WinXP so I can dual boot (hasn't come yet) so I make sure everything I do is compatible, but I'm starting to cringe when I have to go to the desktop (XP) to do anything. Just doesn't seem as... smooth would be the best way to put it. OpenOffice is a bit clunky, so I bought Office for Mac, plus iWorks, and they work very nicely.
And I don't own an iPod, so there is no association there. My laptop is reminding me of how nice Amiga was, and how much crap I have to do with Windows (updating virus protection, running the protection, etc).
Plus I like the glowing keyboard at night when the wife is sleeping!:)
Also, isn't Southwest Bell (or SBC, or whatever it is called now) still fighting about putting up regular phone lines to some rather rural areas in the southwest, as required by federal law?
I have also read (mostly ancedotal) about cherry picked towns for broadband. From my own experience, while I was laid off from my tech job I did lawn service for a bit. I had an area of 5 counties in southeast Pennsylvania, and Verizon was doing a heck of a job installing fiber in the richer and newer developments, and 1/2 mile away the older developments were not even touched.
Personally, this leaves me with little doubt about how the telecomms are installing new tech.
"Hey, my bank gave me a free toaster for opening a new account!"
"Phhh, my bank converted my account to iPodDollars(TM)!"
To me, having my bank doing currency conversions in iPodDollars does not make a happy customer. Of course, my Apple's Trallaxian overlords already are using iPod currency!:)
This reminds me of a sorta-related story back in high school when I DM'd a game. I had a huge room that when the characters walked in about 2 dozen zombies popped up out of nowhere. Except they were illusions. The characters all ran screaming, then came back armed for bear and unleashed hell upon the room. Then I told them that they were all illusions. Not very happy campers, but they did admit I got them fairly and pretty good!
"Yet look how Slashdotters react when the newest, highly-creative, PC case mod comes out. "Cool!" "Where do I get one!" "And it's water-cooled!" "Look how it glows!" "r0x0rz!" "Awesome case!" I certainly love cool-looking PC cases, too, but most people would scorn us for paying premium prices for a PC case,..."
And yet most/.'s scorn Mac people for paying more for a Mac. \ (Yes, I just got a MacBook Pro Intel)
Another book that is similar is "Earth" by David Brin. People walk around with recording googles that can be sent to the police nearly instantaneously. So most people are on their best behavior in public, except for, of course, teenagers who do silly, not quite illegal, things just to bug the older folks. This is not the plot of the story, just an interesting part of the society the book is based in.
Haven't seen this yet- is non-RIAA music from iTunes DRMed? The only way the RIAA music ever got onto iTunes was to have some kind of DRM, so I can't blame Apple for that. You don't have to get your music from there, so from my point of view this becomes a non-issue.
As for the iPhone lock-in to Cingular, I'm wondering if there will be enough criticism to force Apple to eventually partner with the other cell companies?
First off, I just want to let you know that I was not the one who responded to you about "having a first class degree from the best university in the world" as an AC.
I also did not mean to disparage you by saying I thought that your statement was ridiculous. I asked my wife what the normal learning curve is for infants/toddlers, and she thought that your child was, basically, unrealistically above any curve she has heard of. For point of reference she has taken early child development classes and has a large family where she has been around dozens of her family's kids.
If your child is better than me- good for him! Seriously. I don't want to put you or him down. I think that you may have a very above, maybe exceptional, child. I do NOT think that most of us, just by rote or forcing it, could get our children to do the same. In my family, by the standard IQ test (which I know are not that great of a measure), my dad, mom, sister, and myself all pass the 145 IQ level. This is not bragging- I, my family, and my wife have never heard of a child so young to be able to run and load programs at such an early age. I couldn't do it by myself till 7.
Anyway, I did not mean to attack you or your son. I just found it- on its face- to be unreasonable. This is/., so I hope you understand that I have seen a healthy does of hyperbole when it comes to peoples' claims.
"My son could use Ubuntu just fine at the age of 1."
Exactly what was he doing? Punching random keys, swinging the mouse around, programming in Java. I find this statement to be fairly ridiculous since most kids at age 1 are busy learning to walk, babble some easy words, crying from teething and the like.
I just cancelled my Maxim subscription (don't like the new format)- took about 3 minutes. The girl didn't even ask why, just said "We're sorry to lose you" or something like that.
This was about 7 years ago, so I don't know if it is still true, but AOL was a bitch to cancel. I called them at least 5 times, they said "Sure, you're cancelled" and then I get another bill. Eventually my credit card company charged-back them 5 straight times until they quit billing me.
I have seen commercials on TV for "net neutrality", and I have been away from/. for a while, but I have no idea what the whole argument is about. I read the article, checked Wiki, but I don't see why there is an argument over giving time sensitive data priority. Could someone lend me a hand?
I know this is flame, but since I am now typing on my shiny new MacBook Pro my wife bought me....
She was afraid she spent too much on the laptop, so I went to Dell and IBM to try and compare similar laptops. Core 2 Duo at 2.2Gig, 2 Gig memory, 120 Gig drive, 15" screen- I could find anything comparable within $800.
The problem is that you could run an office with a thousand monkeys on typewriters if you planned and forethought it enough. But in the real world there are just too many people/PHBs/IT staff that are just average when it comes to planning and execution. This is a problem of/.- most of the knowledgable posters here are above the average and tend to forget that the average person is going to screw up a bit more.
Anyway, in my own experience (cue ancedotal music), I have had less problems with Macs.
I just got a Macbook Pro for Christmas.
Apps that are trialware:
MS Office for Mac
iWork, which is Keynote (Powerpoint like) and Pages (Word like)
Note: I believe iWork is about $100
Full apps included:
Comic Life - not sure (comic strip writer?)
GarageBand - looks like a nifty music writer, sound recorder thingy
iCal - calendar app
iChat - see name
iDvd - player
iMovie HD - make your own dvds
iPhoto - photo album (I don't know if it can Photoshop type stuff or not)
iTunes - I think everyone knows this one (but I discovered that ESPN Sportscenter commercials are free!)
iWeb - make your own web page
Mail - email (just figured out how to considate yahoo and comcast email)
OmniOutliner - don't know
Preview - previews print jobs, can show Adobe, maybe other things
Photo Booth - picture taking with the built in camera, some effects, maybe more
Quicktime
Address Book
Calculator, Dictionary, TextEdit (notepad like)
Safari - web browser
There are also some neat widgets installed.
I think I got all of the major items. I've only had it a month, so I'm still kicking it around. I did buy iWork (though at the educational price) and Keynote is pretty damn sweet. I did a presentation to my (grad) infosec class last week and a number of people wanted to know what I the presentation on. Also didn't take too long to learn.
Hope this helps!
B
"Apple for using DRM on iTunes because they are assuming you are going to be a criminal and file share your downloads."
This would be mostly because the RIAA companies required it. As for independent artists, I don't know (I don't use iTunes), but if they are also DRM'd then I agree that's wrong (unless the artist asks for the DRM).
Just sayin' because a lot of people here seem to think Apple hoisted DRM on iTunes just for the fun of it.
And did you know that part of their solution to keep Vista from being hacked is:
"don't dual boot linux (this is how viruses spread)"
MikeJandreau.com
Just comes up as a blank page.
"There is nothing higher than my blank page!"
What a goofus.
I know I'm late on this one, but the pro-Vista article is basically "now Windows does OS X" and doesn't crap out quite so much anymore. And I love the last argument- "you have no choice". At this point, yeah, I do. The work arounds may be clumsy and take more time, but I don't HAVE to shovel monkey poo down as food.
Day of obvious Microsoft Bugs?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
I grew up with an Apple II+, then upgraded to an Amiga until college. Been with Windows since, but my wife just bought me a Macbook Pro Intel for Christmas, and I just have to say you need to check out OS X. I don't want to sound like a fanboy, but this stuff just works. I've ordered WinXP so I can dual boot (hasn't come yet) so I make sure everything I do is compatible, but I'm starting to cringe when I have to go to the desktop (XP) to do anything. Just doesn't seem as... smooth would be the best way to put it. OpenOffice is a bit clunky, so I bought Office for Mac, plus iWorks, and they work very nicely.
:)
And I don't own an iPod, so there is no association there. My laptop is reminding me of how nice Amiga was, and how much crap I have to do with Windows (updating virus protection, running the protection, etc).
Plus I like the glowing keyboard at night when the wife is sleeping!
"Yes ... if ONLY we had some sort of futuristic device that could store electricity!"
Capacitor?
Also, isn't Southwest Bell (or SBC, or whatever it is called now) still fighting about putting up regular phone lines to some rather rural areas in the southwest, as required by federal law?
I have also read (mostly ancedotal) about cherry picked towns for broadband. From my own experience, while I was laid off from my tech job I did lawn service for a bit. I had an area of 5 counties in southeast Pennsylvania, and Verizon was doing a heck of a job installing fiber in the richer and newer developments, and 1/2 mile away the older developments were not even touched.
Personally, this leaves me with little doubt about how the telecomms are installing new tech.
I applaud you- that was one of the more cogent explanations of copyright vs. unfettered access that I've read.
"Hey, my bank gave me a free toaster for opening a new account!"
:)
"Phhh, my bank converted my account to iPodDollars(TM)!"
To me, having my bank doing currency conversions in iPodDollars does not make a happy customer. Of course, my Apple's Trallaxian overlords already are using iPod currency!
This reminds me of a sorta-related story back in high school when I DM'd a game. I had a huge room that when the characters walked in about 2 dozen zombies popped up out of nowhere. Except they were illusions. The characters all ran screaming, then came back armed for bear and unleashed hell upon the room. Then I told them that they were all illusions. Not very happy campers, but they did admit I got them fairly and pretty good!
"Yet look how Slashdotters react when the newest, highly-creative, PC case mod comes out. "Cool!" "Where do I get one!" "And it's water-cooled!" "Look how it glows!" "r0x0rz!" "Awesome case!" I certainly love cool-looking PC cases, too, but most people would scorn us for paying premium prices for a PC case,..."
/.'s scorn Mac people for paying more for a Mac. \
And yet most
(Yes, I just got a MacBook Pro Intel)
B
At the very least this borders on stalking, I believe. Odd part to try and prove it- you would have to tape them taping you, making you a stalker.
Or get a friend to pay some anonymous kid to whizz on the camera.
Very good book. I recommend.
Another book that is similar is "Earth" by David Brin. People walk around with recording googles that can be sent to the police nearly instantaneously. So most people are on their best behavior in public, except for, of course, teenagers who do silly, not quite illegal, things just to bug the older folks. This is not the plot of the story, just an interesting part of the society the book is based in.
Haven't seen this yet- is non-RIAA music from iTunes DRMed? The only way the RIAA music ever got onto iTunes was to have some kind of DRM, so I can't blame Apple for that. You don't have to get your music from there, so from my point of view this becomes a non-issue.
As for the iPhone lock-in to Cingular, I'm wondering if there will be enough criticism to force Apple to eventually partner with the other cell companies?
First off, I just want to let you know that I was not the one who responded to you about "having a first class degree from the best university in the world" as an AC.
/., so I hope you understand that I have seen a healthy does of hyperbole when it comes to peoples' claims.
I also did not mean to disparage you by saying I thought that your statement was ridiculous. I asked my wife what the normal learning curve is for infants/toddlers, and she thought that your child was, basically, unrealistically above any curve she has heard of. For point of reference she has taken early child development classes and has a large family where she has been around dozens of her family's kids.
If your child is better than me- good for him! Seriously. I don't want to put you or him down. I think that you may have a very above, maybe exceptional, child. I do NOT think that most of us, just by rote or forcing it, could get our children to do the same. In my family, by the standard IQ test (which I know are not that great of a measure), my dad, mom, sister, and myself all pass the 145 IQ level. This is not bragging- I, my family, and my wife have never heard of a child so young to be able to run and load programs at such an early age. I couldn't do it by myself till 7.
Anyway, I did not mean to attack you or your son. I just found it- on its face- to be unreasonable. This is
Good luck to you.
Umm, I bought a 26 inch CRT for $300 in 1995.
"My son could use Ubuntu just fine at the age of 1."
Exactly what was he doing? Punching random keys, swinging the mouse around, programming in Java. I find this statement to be fairly ridiculous since most kids at age 1 are busy learning to walk, babble some easy words, crying from teething and the like.
I just cancelled my Maxim subscription (don't like the new format)- took about 3 minutes. The girl didn't even ask why, just said "We're sorry to lose you" or something like that.
Not to shabby.
This was about 7 years ago, so I don't know if it is still true, but AOL was a bitch to cancel. I called them at least 5 times, they said "Sure, you're cancelled" and then I get another bill. Eventually my credit card company charged-back them 5 straight times until they quit billing me.
Total hassle.
I have seen commercials on TV for "net neutrality", and I have been away from /. for a while, but I have no idea what the whole argument is about. I read the article, checked Wiki, but I don't see why there is an argument over giving time sensitive data priority. Could someone lend me a hand?
As for docking connectors, is that really a sticking point now that there are wireless (bluetooth) keyboards and mice available?
"Macs are more expensive."
I know this is flame, but since I am now typing on my shiny new MacBook Pro my wife bought me....
She was afraid she spent too much on the laptop, so I went to Dell and IBM to try and compare similar laptops. Core 2 Duo at 2.2Gig, 2 Gig memory, 120 Gig drive, 15" screen- I could find anything comparable within $800.
The problem is that you could run an office with a thousand monkeys on typewriters if you planned and forethought it enough. But in the real world there are just too many people/PHBs/IT staff that are just average when it comes to planning and execution. This is a problem of /.- most of the knowledgable posters here are above the average and tend to forget that the average person is going to screw up a bit more.
Anyway, in my own experience (cue ancedotal music), I have had less problems with Macs.