I'm sure putting dad or grandma down at the first sign of trouble with a $70 shot of pentobarbital would save a ton of money. We could also keep recovering patients in 4x4 stainless steel cages instead of those posh heated hospital rooms. Eliminating medical tort would also save a few pennies on the dollar too.
Whoops. I was thinking of state sponsored schools. I don't know what I think about other government institutions running servers. At least it would provide some kind of general benefit to the economy in general.
What's to say operating those mirror servers isn't educational? I think it would be practical experience for students studying in systems related fields.
They're not a patent troll in that way that they did actually come up with the same system before everyone else......i4i was silent for years, everyone started using XML
is the problem that Vista and 7 or more susceptible to AdWare / malware than XP is
No. Quite the opposite. To clarify, we don't use Vista or Windows 7 at work. All of our desktops are still XP Pro.
To put it as non-technically as possible, malware authors responded to the security enhancements in Vista by writing better malware, and the result has been more infections of our XP boxes at work.
Windows basic flaw is that it is derived from a single user system.
Incorrect.
For years, many DLLs,/had to have/ Admin privileges,
Incorrect.
Everything should be statically linked and only contain the permissions that the user specifically needs to operate and none of those should be administrative permissions.
Everything should be statically linked? lol!
This basic, single user concept of an OS should have been dumped with Win95.
It was.
Over the years they've added many additional layers of protection, but they've never really protected the box from the basic user
Actually, they did.
Setting all of that aside, there are literally millions of users worldwide of other (built from the ground up as) multiuser systems (with some of these same limitations) such as IBM iSeries, HP-UX, etc.. and we never hear of these kinds of problems happening.
Fine, but my main point was the Microsoft has laid out guidelines for programming apps using the least privilege concept from the beginning. Regarding their platform tools, if they didn't allow you to write programs that perform administrative functions, the tools would be defective.
That would require Windows devs to program apps to a specific spec, something that history has shown isn't easy. Not to say that it isn't doable, but it would risk causing app developers to move to a different, less restrictive platform, a risk I'm sure Microsoft would not be willing to take.
Aside from that, user data (the most important thing on any computer system) would still be up for grabs, and there would still have to be a mechanism for escalation of privileges, which users would gladly use when promised dancing bunnies.
Care to explain how is Windows "inordinately susceptible to malware" compared to other operating sytems with similar feature sets such as OSX and K/Ubuntu?
Your scenario would require each app should have it's own account. That would be a administrative nightmare. Automating the behavior (required on a system for home users) it would be a programming nightmare.
But maybe I'm missing something. How would you implement such a feature?
Although I'm not certain aboutthey tell developers how to develop for their OS
Because there is a great deal of heterogeneity regarding the rights requirements for applications in Windows.
Microsoft laid down very specific guidlines ten years ago for coding applications so that they worked without admin rights. I believe it was part of the getting your application certified for Windows NT4/2000/XP. Devs just ignored the guidelines because they could.
Even better, it should be following a proper UNIX-esque security model. It could create users/groups for specific escalation. Apps shouldn't ask to escalte to administrator level. They should ask only to escalate the rights they specifically need, such as writing to C:\Program Files\Foo.
How in the hell is that a UNIX-esqe security model, and what version of UNIX does the things you describe automatically?
The vast majority of malware, rootkits, spyware, viruses, etc that plague windows so severely are completely dependent on having administrator rights. If windows users would join the rest of the computing community in the present century and realize that they don't need administrator rights to check their email, they would see the infection rate drop astronomically.
The days of malware failing without admin rights are gone. The vast majority of malware today is coded to be "rights aware", and stay in the users profile if limited rights or UAC is present.
At work, I took away users' admin rights around 2000 and our infection rates dropped to near 0%. Since Vista and UAC became mainstream adware infections are actually up. It's easy to clean though since it remains confined to the users profile.
Slashdot Mirror
You've got to be kidding me?!
I'm sure putting dad or grandma down at the first sign of trouble with a $70 shot of pentobarbital would save a ton of money. We could also keep recovering patients in 4x4 stainless steel cages instead of those posh heated hospital rooms. Eliminating medical tort would also save a few pennies on the dollar too.
Constitution? Congress jumped the shark with drug laws decades ago.
Besides, you know what would be simpler than the current bill? Single payer.
Stop it with the common sense. Heads are going to explode. ...and a big GFY whomever modded the parent troll.
Can you write an app for the iphone that allows you to track and remotely control your phone via GPS by sending it sms messages with commands?
Your keyboard from back in the day?
Whoops. I was thinking of state sponsored schools. I don't know what I think about other government institutions running servers. At least it would provide some kind of general benefit to the economy in general.
What's to say operating those mirror servers isn't educational? I think it would be practical experience for students studying in systems related fields.
They're not a patent troll in that way that they did actually come up with the same system before everyone else......i4i was silent for years, everyone started using XML
Sounds like a patent troll to me.
Why does that make me prissy and self-righteous?
You not drinking doesn't make you prissy and self-righteous, but judging by the rest of your post, something sure does.
Shhhh. You'll upset the vinyl freaks!
All of Nirvana's stuff was recorded analog.
If OSX was on 85% was of the worlds desktops it would be by far the most exploited and exploitable OS in the world.
Documentation of open source programs is generally TERRIBLE.
The FreeBSD handbook being a notable exception.
(IMO)
exactly too....
Developers... Developers... Developers... Developers!!!!!!!!!!
EXCATLY! :)
is the problem that Vista and 7 or more susceptible to AdWare / malware than XP is
No. Quite the opposite. To clarify, we don't use Vista or Windows 7 at work. All of our desktops are still XP Pro.
To put it as non-technically as possible, malware authors responded to the security enhancements in Vista by writing better malware, and the result has been more infections of our XP boxes at work.
Except *nix has had this model for decades.
NT, being derived from VMS has had this model for decades too.
Windows basic flaw is that it is derived from a single user system.
Incorrect.
For years, many DLLs, /had to have/ Admin privileges,
Incorrect.
Everything should be statically linked and only contain the permissions that the user specifically needs to operate and none of those should be administrative permissions.
Everything should be statically linked? lol!
This basic, single user concept of an OS should have been dumped with Win95.
It was.
Over the years they've added many additional layers of protection, but they've never really protected the box from the basic user
Actually, they did.
Setting all of that aside, there are literally millions of users worldwide of other (built from the ground up as) multiuser systems (with some of these same limitations) such as IBM iSeries, HP-UX, etc.. and we never hear of these kinds of problems happening.
lol.
Fine, but my main point was the Microsoft has laid out guidelines for programming apps using the least privilege concept from the beginning. Regarding their platform tools, if they didn't allow you to write programs that perform administrative functions, the tools would be defective.
That would require Windows devs to program apps to a specific spec, something that history has shown isn't easy. Not to say that it isn't doable, but it would risk causing app developers to move to a different, less restrictive platform, a risk I'm sure Microsoft would not be willing to take.
Aside from that, user data (the most important thing on any computer system) would still be up for grabs, and there would still have to be a mechanism for escalation of privileges, which users would gladly use when promised dancing bunnies.
Care to explain how is Windows "inordinately susceptible to malware" compared to other operating sytems with similar feature sets such as OSX and K/Ubuntu?
Your scenario would require each app should have it's own account. That would be a administrative nightmare. Automating the behavior (required on a system for home users) it would be a programming nightmare.
But maybe I'm missing something. How would you implement such a feature?
Although I'm not certain aboutthey tell developers how to develop for their OS
Because there is a great deal of heterogeneity regarding the rights requirements for applications in Windows.
Microsoft laid down very specific guidlines ten years ago for coding applications so that they worked without admin rights. I believe it was part of the getting your application certified for Windows NT4/2000/XP. Devs just ignored the guidelines because they could.
Even better, it should be following a proper UNIX-esque security model. It could create users/groups for specific escalation. Apps shouldn't ask to escalte to administrator level. They should ask only to escalate the rights they specifically need, such as writing to C:\Program Files\Foo.
How in the hell is that a UNIX-esqe security model, and what version of UNIX does the things you describe automatically?
The vast majority of malware, rootkits, spyware, viruses, etc that plague windows so severely are completely dependent on having administrator rights. If windows users would join the rest of the computing community in the present century and realize that they don't need administrator rights to check their email, they would see the infection rate drop astronomically.
The days of malware failing without admin rights are gone. The vast majority of malware today is coded to be "rights aware", and stay in the users profile if limited rights or UAC is present.
At work, I took away users' admin rights around 2000 and our infection rates dropped to near 0%. Since Vista and UAC became mainstream adware infections are actually up. It's easy to clean though since it remains confined to the users profile.