A Republican committee votes a certain way in opposition to a Democratic position. What's biased about stating who's on which side of this issue? If what you mean is that it's wrong to state this fact when you think the overwhelming majority of./'ers will agree with the Democrats, are suggesting that hiding inconvienent ppositions taken by the Republican majority is NON-biased? Seems to me, deliberately obscuring who supports which side on this to avoid hurting the perception of Republicans is what would be biased. If you think the Republicans are right, defend their reasoning against the./ default.
Intel, as one of the founders and main supporter of the Open Source Development Lab where Linus works and I think most of the lab activity for OSDL still takes place at an ex-Intel building in Beaverton, OR.
Intel has been helping to make Linux better for years and doesn't get the credit for the millions of dollars and other resources it has put into Open Source.
Yes, I realize I was asking a bit for the impossible and yes, the Linux kernel is licenced under the GPL which makes it GNU (in a sense) however, if that's the case my question to RMS is:
If you need to qualify the term Linux to describe the OS (most of us) know and love with GNU/Linux, what other Linices are there that make that distinction necessary ( haven't heard of BSD/Linux, obviously). So the point is, given it's history, GNU/Linux is as redundant as harassing people for saying "phone" instead of "telephone". RMS just wants free advertising for GNU everytime someone breathes the words.
...build a GNU-free Linux distro so we can tell RMS that not all Linux is GNU/Linux, thereby making the word Linux by itself an acceptable word:-) Surely this is possible.
Unfortunately what I mean by popular backing is influencial Senators and Congress men protecting jobs and investment in several sites all over the country. Lean mean, robotic science projects don't generate this kind of big permenent infrastructure which drives it's own lobby in Washington.
Ok, you excited fanboys, let me drop a final reply on this. -Nobody is predicting (not me anyway) AMD will be "dead" as result of new Intel microarchitecture.
-All of the critisism of the AnandTech is weakened (in my mind) by the lack of recognition, no matter what nits you want to pick about the level of comparison to the AMD FX cpu that the Conroe is a very competent, competivive design that a sensible vendor might choose to use over the FX.
-Dell has been pretty sucessful with an all-Intel strategy and if (all hyperpole and macho chest thumping aside) Intel's new stuff is comperable or better, why would Dell change if they've indicated they would only do so if they aren't getting what they need from Intel. If they have not done so already and Dell thinks the playing field is about to be leveled -why would they go AMD now?
-Time to do that would have been about a year ago if it was going to happen at all.
In fact Intel's new microarchitecture processor Conroe makes AMD cpus unnecessary. Has it occured to anyone that now that Intel is poised to decisively take back the performance crown, Dell wants to be able to exploit that in the gamer/enthousiast market before the other specialty firms do?
But don't trumpet Gore/Kennedy/Kerry blindly and reinvent history just to have a handy cocktail party agrument to denounce the guy you didn't vote for.
How do you know? Maybe I'm one of the numerous Republicans that polls clearly show are having buyers remorse over voting for Bush?:-) Tell me you honestly believe that if Congress knew how Bush was going to screw up the war, he would have recieved approval to go ahead? Read Cobra II about how he ignored practically every piece of expert advice he was given.
But is the extra security (even if Iraq was a hotbed of terrorists before too) worth $2 TRILLION?
You can't make the argument that it is necessary and it costs what it costs - everything in security is a cost benefit trade off. I'd swap all the greater security you're alleging Iraq represents for a non-disfunctional FBI. Don't you think a 100 Million or so to do FBI email right is worth.005% of what's being spent on Iraq?
(BTW - Re Sadam's payouts to Palestinian suicide bombers. are you ready to invade Saudi Arabia, since the Saudis have given much more in rewards to suicide bombers - oh wait! Bush LIKES those terror-abettors...)
...Or what?
Spokeswoman Cathy Milhoan said 'e-mail addresses are still being assigned, adding that the city bureau's 2,000 employees would all have accounts by the end of the year.
Big ISPs add this many email users in a few hours -and they don't have the advantage of importing from an existing HR system with people details. (I guess the FBI doesn't either)
FBI's IT is, once again, proven to be shockingly primitive. Maybe instead of spending $2 Trillion on Iraq (which is creating a terrorist breeding ground that wasn't there before), we should spend a few million to bring the main US domestic police force against terrorism into this century.
I cannot understand what he means by 'That is a challenge over perception.' Grammatically, this makes no sense at all. I assume he meant to say something like "This perception is our (or their) challenge." Or "We are challenged by this perception". But it's gobbleygook now.
I guess you can spell a quote correctly, but editing for grammar would hinder our perception that he's an idiot.
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... this would be Tukwila and Poulson with have CSI embedded memory controller architecture in '08 and '09.
These are Itanium family cpus but Intel has also announced that Xeon processors with CSI will be shipping in the Poulson timeframe. If you look at Intel's roadmap, with huge speed increases in FSB, FB DIMMs and multiport (no shared bus) memory connects from sockets to chipsets you realize that embedding memory controller is only one way to get sufficient memory bandwidth.
If you ban USB flash drives, are you going to ban CD Writers, cameras with removable flash, iPods, FM radios (whoops has MP3 player in it) and, of course, ANY internet connection at all (even if you ban attachments, you could take files and UUENCODE or more modern binary-to-text encoding and stick it in the message, and you'd have to ban pictures too to prevent Steganography) It's hopeless if you don't trust your people.
The Yonah processor Intel developed for laptops and is selling under the Core Duo name is not just a generic x86 proc (much faster than a VIA EPIC, faster AND better power conserving than AMD Turions and -does Transmeta still sell cpus?- MUCH faster than Transmetas).
Really sad when the anti-Intel bias of the poster can't even give Intel credit for making a processor that enables twice the FP perf and many times the int perf of the previous Power chips Apple used (or at least that's what Steve said). In fact, looking over the blogger transcript I saw, Steve never said x86 ONCE -he jus talked about a great Intel processor.
Take a break from the Intel bashing for a few minutes...
...the OS could simply determine when dialogs and other interface features are unresponive, giving the feeling that the system has gone off into lala land. (find and offer to suspend the offending process(s)) I'm sure THIS is the root of most rage against the computer.
Disclaimer: Haven't had time read the article yet - perhaps these folks are targeting this - if so, bravo!)
You're saying the writer meant to say "AMD64 and AMD64" as the supported instruction sets? The reason why you might mention both EM64T and AMD64 is that the there have been several times more EM64T processors sold than AMD64 procs. Based on user preference, EM64T would seem to be more popular.
Ah, but with Intel, now you have to choose between dual cores and HT (or pay a lot for the super gaming processor). And choose 2M over 1M cache over 2 processors with 1M each cache, et cetra. Even in the medium priced processors. The above (as you actually imply) is about single socket uniproc DESKTOP systems, not the servers (generally at least 2, 4+ socket) and server apps we're talking about. As a matter of fact, both Intel's current dual socket, dual core cpu (Paxville DP) and the follow-on dual core Dempsey HAVE Hyperthreading. Please don't contaminate a discussion about servers with irrelevant desktop technology observations.
Sort of correct. Nobody (who knew what they were talking about) ever said HT always gave a speed improvement - but database generally does benefit from it. It would be interesting to do a rigourous analyis of what the writer's situation. Since Hyperthreading is hardly "new" - Intel has been shipping it on desktop and server chips for about 3 years (as the post suggests), one wonders what else the writer is clueless about.
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And shame on them.
A Republican committee votes a certain way in opposition to a Democratic position. ./'ers will agree with the Democrats, are suggesting that hiding inconvienent ppositions taken by the Republican majority is NON-biased? Seems to me, deliberately obscuring who supports which side on this to avoid hurting the perception of Republicans is what would be biased. If you think the Republicans are right, defend their reasoning against the ./ default.
What's biased about stating who's on which side of this issue? If what you mean is that it's wrong to state this fact when you think the overwhelming majority of
Intel, as one of the founders and main supporter of the Open Source Development Lab where Linus works and I think most of the lab activity for OSDL still takes place at an ex-Intel building in Beaverton, OR.
Intel has been helping to make Linux better for years and doesn't get the credit for the millions of dollars and other resources it has put into Open Source.
Slashdot doesn't update a lot of logos. They refuse to update to Intel's new logo too.
Sorry, no time this week to do it.
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Yes, I realize I was asking a bit for the impossible and yes, the Linux kernel is licenced under the GPL which makes it GNU (in a sense) however, if that's the case my question to RMS is:
If you need to qualify the term Linux to describe the OS (most of us) know and love with GNU/Linux, what other Linices are there that make that distinction necessary ( haven't heard of BSD/Linux, obviously). So the point is, given it's history, GNU/Linux is as redundant as harassing people for saying "phone" instead of "telephone". RMS just wants free advertising for GNU everytime someone breathes the words.
...build a GNU-free Linux distro so we can tell RMS that not all Linux is GNU/Linux, thereby making the word Linux by itself an acceptable word :-)
Surely this is possible.
Unfortunately what I mean by popular backing is influencial Senators and Congress men protecting jobs and investment in several sites all over the country. Lean mean, robotic science projects don't generate this kind of big permenent infrastructure which drives it's own lobby in Washington.
Ok, you excited fanboys, let me drop a final reply on this.
-Nobody is predicting (not me anyway) AMD will be "dead" as result of new Intel microarchitecture.
-All of the critisism of the AnandTech is weakened (in my mind) by the lack of recognition, no matter what nits you want to pick about the level of comparison to the AMD FX cpu that the Conroe is a very competent, competivive design that a sensible vendor might choose to use over the FX.
-Dell has been pretty sucessful with an all-Intel strategy and if (all hyperpole and macho chest thumping aside) Intel's new stuff is comperable or better, why would Dell change if they've indicated they would only do so if they aren't getting what they need from Intel. If they have not done so already and Dell thinks the playing field is about to be leveled -why would they go AMD now?
-Time to do that would have been about a year ago if it was going to happen at all.
...with expensive shuttle flights instead of cost effective robotic science exploration.
In fact Intel's new microarchitecture processor Conroe makes AMD cpus unnecessary. Has it occured to anyone that now that Intel is poised to decisively take back the performance crown, Dell wants to be able to exploit that in the gamer/enthousiast market before the other specialty firms do?
But don't trumpet Gore/Kennedy/Kerry blindly and reinvent history just to have a handy cocktail party agrument to denounce the guy you didn't vote for. :-) Tell me you honestly believe that if Congress knew how Bush was going to screw up the war, he would have recieved approval to go ahead? Read Cobra II about how he ignored practically every piece of expert advice he was given. .005% of what's being spent on Iraq?
How do you know? Maybe I'm one of the numerous Republicans that polls clearly show are having buyers remorse over voting for Bush?
But is the extra security (even if Iraq was a hotbed of terrorists before too) worth $2 TRILLION? You can't make the argument that it is necessary and it costs what it costs - everything in security is a cost benefit trade off. I'd swap all the greater security you're alleging Iraq represents for a non-disfunctional FBI. Don't you think a 100 Million or so to do FBI email right is worth
(BTW - Re Sadam's payouts to Palestinian suicide bombers. are you ready to invade Saudi Arabia, since the Saudis have given much more in rewards to suicide bombers - oh wait! Bush LIKES those terror-abettors...)
...Intel just got caught up in the trend...:=)
...Or what? Spokeswoman Cathy Milhoan said 'e-mail addresses are still being assigned, adding that the city bureau's 2,000 employees would all have accounts by the end of the year.
Big ISPs add this many email users in a few hours -and they don't have the advantage of importing from an existing HR system with people details. (I guess the FBI doesn't either)
FBI's IT is, once again, proven to be shockingly primitive. Maybe instead of spending $2 Trillion on Iraq (which is creating a terrorist breeding ground that wasn't there before), we should spend a few million to bring the main US domestic police force against terrorism into this century.
I cannot understand what he means by 'That is a challenge over perception.' Grammatically, this makes no sense at all. I assume he meant to say something like "This perception is our (or their) challenge." Or "We are challenged by this perception". But it's gobbleygook now.
I guess you can spell a quote correctly, but editing for grammar would hinder our perception that he's an idiot.
They're nice Bots, they're willing to donate all their winnings to me.
... this would be Tukwila and Poulson with have CSI embedded memory controller architecture in '08 and '09.
These are Itanium family cpus but Intel has also announced that Xeon processors with CSI will be shipping in the Poulson timeframe.
If you look at Intel's roadmap, with huge speed increases in FSB, FB DIMMs and multiport (no shared bus) memory connects from sockets to chipsets you realize that embedding memory controller is only one way to get sufficient memory bandwidth.
If you ban USB flash drives, are you going to ban CD Writers, cameras with removable flash, iPods, FM radios (whoops has MP3 player in it) and, of course, ANY internet connection at all (even if you ban attachments, you could take files and UUENCODE or more modern binary-to-text encoding and stick it in the message, and you'd have to ban pictures too to prevent Steganography)
It's hopeless if you don't trust your people.
Could have made an inside joke out of it by saying his address was 192.168.1.1
...not doubt many of the really interesting ones are obscured...
The Yonah processor Intel developed for laptops and is selling under the Core Duo name is not just a generic x86 proc (much faster than a VIA EPIC, faster AND better power conserving than AMD Turions and -does Transmeta still sell cpus?- MUCH faster than Transmetas).
Really sad when the anti-Intel bias of the poster can't even give Intel credit for making a processor that enables twice the FP perf and many times the int perf of the previous Power chips Apple used (or at least that's what Steve said).
In fact, looking over the blogger transcript I saw, Steve never said x86 ONCE -he jus talked about a great Intel processor.
Take a break from the Intel bashing for a few minutes...
...the OS could simply determine when dialogs and other interface features are unresponive, giving the feeling that the system has gone off into lala land. (find and offer to suspend the offending process(s)) I'm sure THIS is the root of most rage against the computer.
Disclaimer: Haven't had time read the article yet - perhaps these folks are targeting this - if so, bravo!)
You're saying the writer meant to say "AMD64 and AMD64" as the supported instruction sets? The reason why you might mention both EM64T and AMD64 is that the there have been several times more EM64T processors sold than AMD64 procs. Based on user preference, EM64T would seem to be more popular.
Ah, but with Intel, now you have to choose between dual cores and HT (or pay a lot for the super gaming processor). And choose 2M over 1M cache over 2 processors with 1M each cache, et cetra. Even in the medium priced processors.
The above (as you actually imply) is about single socket uniproc DESKTOP systems, not the servers (generally at least 2, 4+ socket) and server apps we're talking about.
As a matter of fact, both Intel's current dual socket, dual core cpu (Paxville DP) and the follow-on dual core Dempsey HAVE Hyperthreading. Please don't contaminate a discussion about servers with irrelevant desktop technology observations.
Sort of correct.
Nobody (who knew what they were talking about) ever said HT always gave a speed improvement - but database generally does benefit from it. It would be interesting to do a rigourous analyis of what the writer's situation. Since Hyperthreading is hardly "new" - Intel has been shipping it on desktop and server chips for about 3 years (as the post suggests), one wonders what else the writer is clueless about.
And what about Itanium? (The other 64-bit Microsoft supports)