This is the same stupid debate as if smoking really causes cancer, or not? The effekt IS there, it's just not certain how strong it is and will be.
Or its just like the other debate of the same reality-negating kind like these people which argue that the nazis didn't actually kill the jews... Yes of course!?!
Aproaching Ice-Age is a thing of next thousend years possible to come, Globar Warming his happening right, and it is not a MIGHT is a SURE THING. We can only not predict how strong it will be. In my country (Austria) glacier are declining, no need to argue that, you see every year some meters going away. Migratory birds who are very sensible to temperature changes have already shifted their cycle by some weeks, due to changed temperatures. Ice caps are melting.
The only question is about the strength of the effect. e.g * Will the Netherlands been drowned in to the sea? Cause of the Ice-Caps melting? (the very first one to be drown) * Will Manhatten be swallowed by sea? (Next one) * Or is it very strong and the northern half of europe will be a new place for fishes? (i.e. for example half germany in some models)
* There are other scenarios where the sea salinity of the atlantik ocean will be reduced due to the melting ice caps, which causes the gulf stream to stop working, which today brings a lot of warmth toward europe, if it stops spinning it means europe will be suddendly frozen to death. A complicated concept for people to understand that globar warming probarly means ice-cold living for us. The northern european states like Norway, Sweden and so may become unhabitable.
And all this processes happen around a maybe fifty to hundret years, you can't compensate that with a two-thousend years ice-age to approach.
Don't tell me that the same amount of CO2 is generated by decaying e.g. a ton biowaste to soil than by burning it. No. Just make a solid residua comperasion, on one hand you get don't know 0.9 tons soil? (and 0.1 CO2), on the other hand you burned all of it, you get maybe 0.05 tons of ashes.
Don't take me on the numbers, I'm no chemist, but common sense tells you that there is a huge difference.
Well I am not that literate in history. But at least for WWII I know that disproportionateness played a major role in it. Hadn't germany being forced to this relative enormous repairments-payments Hitler would possibly not had a chance to gain power, nor to convince the germans about the badness of the rest of the world.
But like any model in can explain some aspects not all, I agree that in the cold war system competition played the major role instead of disproportionateness, but it was a cold one after all, wasn't it?
I agree, however I constantly want to emphasise the EU started as a peace project after world-war II no one thought about economic benefits or draw-backs. Now in the 1990ies we concentrated mainly on the economic aspects. However I think it's important to keep in mind the political aspects EU - and it's economic way of integreation to ensure peace where it lais it hands upon.
The new countries will now make a hard a time! Just think what the unionation of germany ment for west germany. They still aren't over to the top-hill.
Pro-Something? Heh! We're currently running the biggest peace project ever! We're uniting europe and just now slowly spreading to the east. Two weeks ago we embraced 10 new countries from the former east. It will cost us millons of billions to bring them to western standards and to get an equably spreaded weatlh - by the way a major goal of the EU - this is the only way to ensure permant peace, as unequality will always result in war&terrorism. Thats something the US does not get, 9/11 has shown you can built tons of rockets and warships it does not save you from the massive dangers of disproportionateness.
However today as Europe we've grown past our imperalistic and mercantilism history, while other countries are still striking for being world supremacy, today not in direct political control, but also like england in it's last phase of neo-imperialismn trying to control other countries through economically ways - Today the US uses the same paradigma as europe in the last centruies - Let's heal and help the world by "endowing" them our way of life!! - And if thou'rt unwilling, then force I'll employ
Argh why do people keep believing atlantis is an island? It was NOT. It was a coast.
Plato made some errors in the translation, for one example the ten-fold error, he datet antlantis 10.000 years in the past, that cannot be, this would put it rightous into the young stone-age or so.
The biggest error when translating the Egyptian legends was the error of the island, in ancient Egyptian the word for island and coast is the same. So it could and was likely to be just a coast.
And beeing a coast atlantis could have been anywhere, it's likely that the Egyptians descriped as Atlantis a place Plato was infact very familiar with, just not realizing they ment Greece after all. Dough!
Or it also very likely they ment the Persian culture, which has been cultural and technical at that times far ahead.
Okay I will use karma for this, from all this "I work for/." slime-modarators, but after 2 years reading/. regulary today I got the definite impression./. itself is just a huge hypocrisy.
I thought/. supports free software, as free software works international, it's also the interest of all supporters of free software to support the legal possibiltiy and freedom of software in ALL nations. No matter in which nation the server stands, or which nation is written in the passport of the site owner.
And suppose just for second you were true. Why would it be bad? Linux system work great and they get the job done.
For me running the servers it is not important where the innovation took place.
But beside that windows closely looks like apple, who had the windows look&feel long before microsoft. MS office closely looks like the lotus office suite, which has been far older, and the inovator etc.
" But decompilation is restricted to circumstanecs where it's essential to do so to achieve interoperability (e.g. interchange of file formats) with other, independently created, software. You can't use decompiled code for any other purpose. "
Well I don't like this regulation, why is decompilation not allowed for anything?
IMHO I say this law puts the desires of few over the total network advantage of many. (better economy)
Windows would have GPL-licensed code checked in, as they could conceivably be forced to open-source the whole product.
Absolutly Wrong, to understand the legal system behind the GPL: You have no need to accept the GPL, it is an implicit license, if you take the code and integrate it in your product, normally you have to choice between accepting the GPL, or choosing to have stolen code violating the copyright law.
Well in case for really large projects the second case would be the case of choice. Admit you have stolen the code, remove it from your product, and pay the fine and some money for compensation to the copyright holder, in sum cheaper solution.
He can't force you to open the code, if you choose to admit to have stolen it.
For joe user like you and me of course, and small companies, the first choice is better because cheaper. Accept the GPL, and open the code.
Now if you ask me if it is robots, machines or other technology does not matter.
Fact is that our technology does more and more work for us. Back in the times we were an agrar centered society everbody needed to work hard, just to get everybody fed. In our today society this is already not so, only a few percent need to work in the agrar sector.
Now when technology takes of more and more work from us humans. We reach the point where not 100% of the people need to work to create a nice life for all of us. In our current system this is a problem, and in fact IMHO we have already reached this point. The problem is who belongs to the worker group and who doesn't, and how do you divide resources between these two.
What is the current solution? Well we're "convinced" by several channels that we need to consume more and more, just enough to keep all people busy again. So the system of full employment works again. The better technology gets, the more we need to consume, to not let the system break, but beside that system conserving task this extra consumation has IMHO not really an other sense, it does not make us happier.
The original story goes in example to the point, where only 10% of people are needed to create a life with todays life-standard for 100% of people.
Well I ask everybody to find exits from this dilemma, I for one in example can think well for a knowledge and culture centered society. Where the then larger non-worker group is socially encouraged to "work" scientifically or creative.
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This is the same stupid debate as if smoking really causes cancer, or not? The effekt IS there, it's just not certain how strong it is and will be.
Or its just like the other debate of the same reality-negating kind like these people which argue that the nazis didn't actually kill the jews... Yes of course!?!
Who modded this interesting? It's not.
Aproaching Ice-Age is a thing of next thousend years possible to come, Globar Warming his happening right, and it is not a MIGHT is a SURE THING. We can only not predict how strong it will be. In my country (Austria) glacier are declining, no need to argue that, you see every year some meters going away. Migratory birds who are very sensible to temperature changes have already shifted their cycle by some weeks, due to changed temperatures. Ice caps are melting.
The only question is about the strength of the effect.
e.g
* Will the Netherlands been drowned in to the sea? Cause of the Ice-Caps melting? (the very first one to be drown)
* Will Manhatten be swallowed by sea? (Next one)
* Or is it very strong and the northern half of europe will be a new place for fishes? (i.e. for example half germany in some models)
* There are other scenarios where the sea salinity of the atlantik ocean will be reduced due to the melting ice caps, which causes the gulf stream to stop working, which today brings a lot of warmth toward europe, if it stops spinning it means europe will be suddendly frozen to death. A complicated concept for people to understand that globar warming probarly means ice-cold living for us. The northern european states like Norway, Sweden and so may become unhabitable.
And all this processes happen around a maybe fifty to hundret years, you can't compensate that with a two-thousend years ice-age to approach.
Don't tell me that the same amount of CO2 is generated by decaying e.g. a ton biowaste to soil than by burning it. No. Just make a solid residua comperasion, on one hand you get don't know 0.9 tons soil? (and 0.1 CO2), on the other hand you burned all of it, you get maybe 0.05 tons of ashes.
Don't take me on the numbers, I'm no chemist, but common sense tells you that there is a huge difference.
Hmmm, What is a gyrocopter?
Well ain't this the very idea of democracy? To force the leaders to do that what the people want, and not to follow their own needs?
Well I am not that literate in history. But at least for WWII I know that disproportionateness played a major role in it. Hadn't germany being forced to this relative enormous repairments-payments Hitler would possibly not had a chance to gain power, nor to convince the germans about the badness of the rest of the world.
But like any model in can explain some aspects not all, I agree that in the cold war system competition played the major role instead of disproportionateness, but it was a cold one after all, wasn't it?
I agree, however I constantly want to emphasise the EU started as a peace project after world-war II no one thought about economic benefits or draw-backs. Now in the 1990ies we concentrated mainly on the economic aspects. However I think it's important to keep in mind the political aspects EU - and it's economic way of integreation to ensure peace where it lais it hands upon.
The new countries will now make a hard a time! Just think what the unionation of germany ment for west germany. They still aren't over to the top-hill.
Pro-Something? Heh! We're currently running the biggest peace project ever! We're uniting europe and just now slowly spreading to the east. Two weeks ago we embraced 10 new countries from the former east. It will cost us millons of billions to bring them to western standards and to get an equably spreaded weatlh - by the way a major goal of the EU - this is the only way to ensure permant peace, as unequality will always result in war&terrorism. Thats something the US does not get, 9/11 has shown you can built tons of rockets and warships it does not save you from the massive dangers of disproportionateness .
However today as Europe we've grown past our imperalistic and mercantilism history, while other countries are still striking for being world supremacy, today not in direct political control, but also like england in it's last phase of neo-imperialismn trying to control other countries through economically ways - Today the US uses the same paradigma as europe in the last centruies - Let's heal and help the world by "endowing" them our way of life!! - And if thou'rt unwilling, then force I'll employ
Argh why do people keep believing atlantis is an island? It was NOT. It was a coast.
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Plato made some errors in the translation, for one example the ten-fold error, he datet antlantis 10.000 years in the past, that cannot be, this would put it rightous into the young stone-age or so.
The biggest error when translating the Egyptian legends was the error of the island, in ancient Egyptian the word for island and coast is the same. So it could and was likely to be just a coast.
And beeing a coast atlantis could have been anywhere, it's likely that the Egyptians descriped as Atlantis a place Plato was infact very familiar with, just not realizing they ment Greece after all. Dough!
Or it also very likely they ment the Persian culture, which has been cultural and technical at that times far ahead.
http://www.crystalinks.com/atlantistheories.htm
And sometimes we ask as humanity what to do with the excess-production we are able to produce beside making food&schelter for the popolution.
Well I think to "invest" it into Britney Spears, Nukes, Tamagochies, unnecesary Law-Suits etc. ist a far better choice than into space travel.
"..and serves no useful purpose that can justify its cost.."
What is _useful_ beside providing basic needs?
Try Ebay.
In the EU we've 2 years legal warranty eitherway.
First 6 months they have to proove the failure wasn't in the device at the transaction time, next 18 months you can proove it.
I didn't speak about the /. community. I spoke about /. itself, the admins and editors.
"they" barely even post commentaries let alone comments, so there is no hipocrisy
Hahaha! You don't read much
Okay I will use karma for this, from all this "I work for /." slime-modarators, but after 2 years reading /. regulary today I got the definite impression. /. itself is just a huge hypocrisy.
I thought /. supports free software, as free software works international, it's also the interest of all supporters of free software to support the legal possibiltiy and freedom of software in ALL nations. No matter in which nation the server stands, or which nation is written in the passport of the site owner.
Now, what about your project? Now, what is about /.?
Or does /. not care?
And suppose just for second you were true. Why would it be bad? Linux system work great and they get the job done.
For me running the servers it is not important where the innovation took place.
But beside that windows closely looks like apple, who had the windows look&feel long before microsoft. MS office closely looks like the lotus office suite, which has been far older, and the inovator etc.
that argument is absolutly stupid. Sorry.
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But decompilation is restricted to circumstanecs where it's essential to do so to achieve interoperability (e.g. interchange of file formats) with other, independently created, software. You can't use decompiled code for any other purpose.
"
Well I don't like this regulation, why is decompilation not allowed for anything?
IMHO I say this law puts the desires of few over the total network advantage of many. (better economy)
On GNUish systems just call strdup() ;o)
Windows would have GPL-licensed code checked in, as they could conceivably be forced to open-source the whole product.
Absolutly Wrong, to understand the legal system behind the GPL: You have no need to accept the GPL, it is an implicit license, if you take the code and integrate it in your product, normally you have to choice between accepting the GPL, or choosing to have stolen code violating the copyright law.
Well in case for really large projects the second case would be the case of choice. Admit you have stolen the code, remove it from your product, and pay the fine and some money for compensation to the copyright holder, in sum cheaper solution.
He can't force you to open the code, if you choose to admit to have stolen it.
For joe user like you and me of course, and small companies, the first choice is better because cheaper. Accept the GPL, and open the code.
Who will be the first large group of employees to be completely automated out of their jobs by robots?
The weavers will be the first large group of employess to be completely automated out of their jobs.
And guess what, it has happened already!
Now if you ask me if it is robots, machines or other technology does not matter.
Fact is that our technology does more and more work for us. Back in the times we were an agrar centered society everbody needed to work hard, just to get everybody fed. In our today society this is already not so, only a few percent need to work in the agrar sector.
Now when technology takes of more and more work from us humans. We reach the point where not 100% of the people need to work to create a nice life for all of us. In our current system this is a problem, and in fact IMHO we have already reached this point. The problem is who belongs to the worker group and who doesn't, and how do you divide resources between these two.
What is the current solution? Well we're "convinced" by several channels that we need to consume more and more, just enough to keep all people busy again. So the system of full employment works again. The better technology gets, the more we need to consume, to not let the system break, but beside that system conserving task this extra consumation has IMHO not really an other sense, it does not make us happier.
The original story goes in example to the point, where only 10% of people are needed to create a life with todays life-standard for 100% of people.
Well I ask everybody to find exits from this dilemma, I for one in example can think well for a knowledge and culture centered society. Where the then larger non-worker group is socially encouraged to "work" scientifically or creative.