They didn't have to test it against 25+ different languages and 30+ different platforms (yes you read that right - if you think about every single version of Windows (server versions both x86/x64), Mac OS/X Linux and Solaris).
I don't think that was a vintage advert. I think it was made by MS sales executives to motive sales people and give them a quick overview on whats new - something I've personally seen done in lots of companies.
I know with the new carissa (look it up on wikipedia - it was a ship that beached itself near where I live) when they sunk it they said the fuel oil was so heavy it would solidify in the oceans depths - which it seemed to do.
What market numbers? Last I heard Android was poised to take over the iPhone's spot in 2012. Lets look at some facts:
* Pretty much every carrier (in most countries even - friend sent a photo from the middle of nowhere in the Philippines of an Android Ad for some phone company) has an Android phone of some sort. * Every US/Canada carrier has at least one android phone offering - and there are many with multiple offerings from multiple carriers and manufacturers.
Again - all this article is showing is that Apple is running a bit scared at the moment. Here's a smartphone OS that is on par with features, performance and usability that is fast becoming ubiquitous.
Call me stupid if you like, but isn't that an expensive way to kill interest? I mean this thing made it all the way to manufacturing prototype - that's not cheap.
Plus I'm pretty sure MS was on board - since they showed it off at several keynote's.
"like new" HP-3000 from Prof. Frink's garage sale).
Funny you should say that - we've had HP-UX machines since 95 (and before that Prime mini's) at the community college I work for (used to run Datatel/Colleage on Unidata). We actually have a HP Mini someone could take home with them. Its PA-Risc based, about the size of a fridge but its free for the asking.
(current HP-UX machine in case anyone is curious is a rack mounted Itanium machine).
It's too bad M$ doesn't make a more capable OS, but we know why they don't.
You mean like the built in ms-backup tool like the one Windows 7 comes with? Which allows you to make system images, incremental snapshots and restore the entire system from the recovery console if needed?
BTW - when you spell MS with a $ you make it sound like your the kind of person who hangs out on Star Trek forums arguing about whether Captain Picard or Captain Kirk was a better Starfleet officer.
Reading around - I couldn't find confirmation this is true, but reading this forum post suggests that Sony had nothing to do with adult films not being on Betamax.
After all Beta was an open standard in this sense. I could buy a bunch of beta tapes, film a bunch of people doing it - and sell them without Sony being any wiser.
I doubt its half - back when I did tier 1 support for Adobe stuff (at some outsourcing company) maybe 1 in 10 calls were Mac related - more than one day went by where I didn't get a single Mac call (15-30 calls a day). Its either a testament to how reliable Mac's are or a testament to how much stuff they sell on that platform.
Why couldn't you (Sun/Adobe) just write a patch file that blocks known apps or functions from running? Many Java/Flash exploits I've seen rely on using Windows API's/Shell to grab native exe's on the net to take over the machine - which wouldn't work on a phone anyhow.
I give them that, but then there is the N97 - I have one, and honestly its jaded me from every getting another Nokia - there is a bug to usability ratio that is a bit too high.
Funny thing about that app - Steve complains about battery drain, but having played around with it on my laptop I'm sure it would kill an iPhone/iPad in about an hour.
What do you think Adobe is doing with Google? The demos I've seen on the Nexus one are showing up a fully hardware accelerated version of Flash 10.1.x. No reason they couldn't do that on the iPhone or iPad.
The security thing is a smokescreen - every application that has any network connectivity is going to have security vulnerabilities. Whichever app has focus is going to have the worst track record in my opinion. Flash wasn't even a target, until the first hacks came along - then the blood was in the water and now its a major focus.
Still I don't think its that big a deal on a mobile phone - most of these exploits rely on x86 platform to perform. In a secure environment like the iPhone where no app that isn't signed will run even less so (and this is the default setting on Android too).
Adobe's probably getting pressure from advertisers. Surprisingly, Adobe hasn't fast-tracked a Flash player for the more open platforms out there - 3 years of griping about Flash on the iPhone, and they don't have anything for Android.
This is disingenuous at best. FlashLite has been on Android (and a dozen other platforms like Symbian, PS3, PSP, Wii [intergrated into Opera!], Xbox etc etc - even the Motorola RAZR has a Flashlite plugin!) since at least 1.5. And while its not a fully featured client - the latest Flashlite which supports AS3 is good enough to play Farmville (a game I hate, but its a good benchmark of your flash plugin's capabilities).
Multi-touch is supported in 10.1.x, and h.264 has been supported since version 9 (which came out 3 years ago). The first one I can understand (since 10.1.x isn't production), but the second one is just ignorant.
You certainly have a whitewashed view of history... Windows 98 had full USB support for any device built out of the box. First usb header (not even a port) I ever saw was on an ASUS motherboard in the mid 90's long before apple was using them.
Most PC companies are about gradual change - have both options on a board, then one option after the parts arrive - which is what Apple did until the iMac g3. One could easily argue what they did was a bit premature.
Interesting you mention floppies - I recall a lot of mac users being rather upset (this is long before CD-RW, or usb thumb drives were all that common). Many 3rd party companies made a lot of money selling after market USB floppy drives.
Apple did force the issue, but like I said - iMac came out in 1998 (there first all usb machine - no ADB) - by then Windows 98 had full USB support built into the OS. Microsoft's famous bluescreen error while plugging in a USB scanner was demoing Windows 98, and yes that feature worked when it shipped. 95 OS-R2 had the same USB support via a patch, and no it wasn't just keyboard/mice.
In other words - by 1998 - USB was here probably because both Microsoft and Apple promoted it actively, but you have to remember Apple derided USB (even when 2.0 came out) as being too primative for anything hdd/camera/scanner related (yes there were firewire scanners made for the Mac).
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How can you lose the grip on PDF when its a fully published spec, and an accepted ISO standard (several of them)?
They didn't have to test it against 25+ different languages and 30+ different platforms (yes you read that right - if you think about every single version of Windows (server versions both x86/x64), Mac OS/X Linux and Solaris).
I don't think that was a vintage advert. I think it was made by MS sales executives to motive sales people and give them a quick overview on whats new - something I've personally seen done in lots of companies.
I know with the new carissa (look it up on wikipedia - it was a ship that beached itself near where I live) when they sunk it they said the fuel oil was so heavy it would solidify in the oceans depths - which it seemed to do.
That's what she said :).
What market numbers? Last I heard Android was poised to take over the iPhone's spot in 2012. Lets look at some facts:
* Pretty much every carrier (in most countries even - friend sent a photo from the middle of nowhere in the Philippines of an Android Ad for some phone company) has an Android phone of some sort.
* Every US/Canada carrier has at least one android phone offering - and there are many with multiple offerings from multiple carriers and manufacturers.
Again - all this article is showing is that Apple is running a bit scared at the moment. Here's a smartphone OS that is on par with features, performance and usability that is fast becoming ubiquitous.
First Steve, now Leslie - OHA is still a hundred times better than anything Apple has come along with - at least for users.
Also all the article does is spread FUD about Android.
Touche ;).
Call me stupid if you like, but isn't that an expensive way to kill interest? I mean this thing made it all the way to manufacturing prototype - that's not cheap.
Plus I'm pretty sure MS was on board - since they showed it off at several keynote's.
Funny you should say that - we've had HP-UX machines since 95 (and before that Prime mini's) at the community college I work for (used to run Datatel/Colleage on Unidata). We actually have a HP Mini someone could take home with them. Its PA-Risc based, about the size of a fridge but its free for the asking.
(current HP-UX machine in case anyone is curious is a rack mounted Itanium machine).
You mean like the built in ms-backup tool like the one Windows 7 comes with? Which allows you to make system images, incremental snapshots and restore the entire system from the recovery console if needed?
BTW - when you spell MS with a $ you make it sound like your the kind of person who hangs out on Star Trek forums arguing about whether Captain Picard or Captain Kirk was a better Starfleet officer.
Well either way - I didn't know each app ran in a sandbox on the iPhone. If thats true - why the security fuss?
I'm just throwing ideas around.
Reading around - I couldn't find confirmation this is true, but reading this forum post suggests that Sony had nothing to do with adult films not being on Betamax.
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=2126
After all Beta was an open standard in this sense. I could buy a bunch of beta tapes, film a bunch of people doing it - and sell them without Sony being any wiser.
Not that any of those sites are consuming live data... Nice tech demos though.
I doubt its half - back when I did tier 1 support for Adobe stuff (at some outsourcing company) maybe 1 in 10 calls were Mac related - more than one day went by where I didn't get a single Mac call (15-30 calls a day). Its either a testament to how reliable Mac's are or a testament to how much stuff they sell on that platform.
Why couldn't you (Sun/Adobe) just write a patch file that blocks known apps or functions from running? Many Java/Flash exploits I've seen rely on using Windows API's/Shell to grab native exe's on the net to take over the machine - which wouldn't work on a phone anyhow.
I give them that, but then there is the N97 - I have one, and honestly its jaded me from every getting another Nokia - there is a bug to usability ratio that is a bit too high.
Funny thing about that app - Steve complains about battery drain, but having played around with it on my laptop I'm sure it would kill an iPhone/iPad in about an hour.
What do you think Adobe is doing with Google? The demos I've seen on the Nexus one are showing up a fully hardware accelerated version of Flash 10.1.x. No reason they couldn't do that on the iPhone or iPad.
The security thing is a smokescreen - every application that has any network connectivity is going to have security vulnerabilities. Whichever app has focus is going to have the worst track record in my opinion. Flash wasn't even a target, until the first hacks came along - then the blood was in the water and now its a major focus.
Still I don't think its that big a deal on a mobile phone - most of these exploits rely on x86 platform to perform. In a secure environment like the iPhone where no app that isn't signed will run even less so (and this is the default setting on Android too).
But its not just video is it? Same with Flash. What your asking for it to block websites that use html 5.
Adobe's probably getting pressure from advertisers. Surprisingly, Adobe hasn't fast-tracked a Flash player for the more open platforms out there - 3 years of griping about Flash on the iPhone, and they don't have anything for Android.
This is disingenuous at best. FlashLite has been on Android (and a dozen other platforms like Symbian, PS3, PSP, Wii [intergrated into Opera!], Xbox etc etc - even the Motorola RAZR has a Flashlite plugin!) since at least 1.5. And while its not a fully featured client - the latest Flashlite which supports AS3 is good enough to play Farmville (a game I hate, but its a good benchmark of your flash plugin's capabilities).
Multi-touch is supported in 10.1.x, and h.264 has been supported since version 9 (which came out 3 years ago). The first one I can understand (since 10.1.x isn't production), but the second one is just ignorant.
And yes - multi-touch in flash works on Android.
I think anything would be better than buying a smartphone from Nokia...
Do you think Flash is just video? Its an application development platform that just happens to have a bunch of video codecs built into the runtime.
Its like saying "yuk yuk - we're going to replace Java with h.264 video and html 5" - I guess... its possible.
You certainly have a whitewashed view of history... Windows 98 had full USB support for any device built out of the box. First usb header (not even a port) I ever saw was on an ASUS motherboard in the mid 90's long before apple was using them.
Most PC companies are about gradual change - have both options on a board, then one option after the parts arrive - which is what Apple did until the iMac g3. One could easily argue what they did was a bit premature.
Interesting you mention floppies - I recall a lot of mac users being rather upset (this is long before CD-RW, or usb thumb drives were all that common). Many 3rd party companies made a lot of money selling after market USB floppy drives.
Apple did force the issue, but like I said - iMac came out in 1998 (there first all usb machine - no ADB) - by then Windows 98 had full USB support built into the OS. Microsoft's famous bluescreen error while plugging in a USB scanner was demoing Windows 98, and yes that feature worked when it shipped. 95 OS-R2 had the same USB support via a patch, and no it wasn't just keyboard/mice.
In other words - by 1998 - USB was here probably because both Microsoft and Apple promoted it actively, but you have to remember Apple derided USB (even when 2.0 came out) as being too primative for anything hdd/camera/scanner related (yes there were firewire scanners made for the Mac).