You still here? Don't you have a MoveOn head to stomp, somewhere?
Stop denying it. You're a classic Randroid/Teabagger. Come out of the closet and EMBRACE your pseudointellectual dumbassedness.
Your comment about the ignorance of the courts (because they disagree with your interpretation of the law) and conflating the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans with a census question about toilets brands you forever as an ignoramus.
Off to your next Rand Paul bundrally. The grownups are talking and you have nothing to add to the conversation. Save your tantrum for the cameras at the rally.
" You read a LOT of Ayn Rand as a lonely, insecure teenager, didn't you?
Ha! I loathe Rand's work, and since I'm rather anti-capitalist, I'm sure she'd loathe me."
Which implies that you DID read a lot of Ayn Rand as a lonely insecure teenager. Really, you should have stuck with Lord of The Rings. It has ORCS!
"I was hosting this on-line copy [infamous.net] at an FTP site before the Web existed, thanks. "
Doesn't mean that you actually READ it or UNDERSTOOD it, though. Considering your Teabagger/Randroid comments, I'm thinking that you never did read the thing.
"Article 1, Section 2 authorizes the Feds to conduct an enumeration. That's a count. I don't mind being counted. It does not authorize an investigation into lifestyle. That's why I decline to answer anything on the census form beyond how many people live in my house."
This is why no one wants to play D&D with you. 'Rules lawyers' are SUCH a PITA!
"Diverse courts, up to SCOTUS, have affirmed that the Census can ask whatever questions it feels germane to its mission."
"The illiteracy of the courts does not change the meaning of the document."
Ah. The PERFECT Teabagger/Randroid rationalization! "The Courts are stupid! I KNOW more about the LAW than they do!" Hate to tell you this, but, no, you DON'T know more than the Courts.
"So, the bottom line is, you just proved yourself to be one of those morons who got their Official Libertarian Panties in a wad over a legitimate question in the Census."
"Considering that census data was, in the past, used to herd innocent Americans into concentration camps [scientificamerican.com], anyone who doesn't have at least a tiny drop of concern about census data is woefully ignorant."
And there we go. Teabagger/Randroid conflates the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans during WWII with a question about the number of toilets in a home.
How many toilets in your home = The rounding up and detention in concentration camps of American citizens.
The mind of a Teabagger/Randroid is a strange thing.
Assuming that they actually HAVE minds, that is, and not just a brainstem that reacts in a predictable manner when stimulated.
The grownups are having a conversation here.
So, look, Teabagger/Randroid, just "go Galt" or whatever it is you yahoos do.
There's a good little developmentally disabled chap!
"What business of the federal government is it how many toilets are in my home? And if it wants to know, if it asks nicely I might tell it; if it threatens me with legal sanction for failing to reply, my response is "fuck you, you have neither moral nor Constitutional authority to do so." --"
You read a LOT of Ayn Rand as a lonely, insecure teenager, didn't you?
As for the Constitutionality of the Census, Article 1, Section 2. I'll wait while you look it up in your copy of the Constitution.
Thomas Jefferson and a few others who had a hand in creating the US, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution considered a census vital to the public interest. That'll be Article 1, Section 2, again. That's the first part after the Preamble.
Diverse courts, up to SCOTUS, have affirmed that the Census can ask whatever questions it feels germane to its mission.
As for the 'toilet' question. Statistics. Watching trends over the decades are very useful.
If you know how many toilets there are per person in Anytown, USA, you can statistically determine how many toilets there may be in ten, twenty, thirty years, which means that there will be a need for more water, because there will be more people, more houses (Fire Departments LIKE having lots of hydrants about the place. Makes it easier for them to fight fires.) and, potentially, more water treatment plants and sewage treatment plants.
OMG! SOCIALIZED FIRE DEPARTMENTS! SOCIALIZED CLEAN WATER! SOCIALIZED SEWAGE TREATMENT!
TEH HORRORZ!
So, the bottom line is, you just proved yourself to be one of those morons who got their Official Libertarian Panties in a wad over a legitimate question in the Census.
Please! Stop using the Internet, You're getting your stupid ALL OVER everything.
kthnxbai!
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"There's no need for mandatory invasions of citizen's privacy."
If there is no personally identifying information associated with any particular census form, how is it that you can seriously claim privacy invasion?
One can only invade a person's privacy if you can point to that particular person and say that they do this that or the other, or that they are (Wacky christian cultist/wacky moslem wahabbi/wacky ultraorthodox jew/wacky atheist) or (really sexually kinky) or (racist) or (doesn't care a flying fuck about the latest celebrity scandal du jour)
Really, you sound just like the morons 20 something years ago who were fulminating about the US census wanting to know how many toilets were in the home.
"This is true regardless of whether or not the scientist works in a University (and therefore is more likely to be a leftie or green), or if he works in industry."
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...thieves and vandals that steal data, set up botnets or vandalize websites.
We apologize that this was not a Serious and Constructive article about the Serious and Constructive uses of Serious and Constructive computers.
We humbly suggest that if you are keenly interested in Serious and Constructive uses for Serious and Constructive computers, that you seek out Serious and Constructive forums.
Those of us that appreciate what is known as a "cool hack", on the other hand, will not miss you one little bit.
"I would not trust this long-term."
As it's not YOUR computer, it's not your worry, is it?
Right. Because there are no more classes/groups of people that are hurt or deprived of their fundamental rights anymore.
Except when they contract food poisoning from tainted meat or eggs, injured or killed by poorly tested medicines, or are told that they have no rights, based upon nothing more than who they choose to love, or their desire not to be beaten or killed by scumbags.
Indeed, why, all those lawyers, WTF did they do for Rosa Parks, and black kids wanting the same education as the white kids and all those other minorities who wanted to have the same rights as the majority, like being able to vote?
And the lawyers here in Massachusetts, who convinced the Supreme Judicial Court that, yes, gay people do indeed have the right to marry, lazy bastards, all they did was point to a couple of amendments in the Constitution and the Commonwealth charter!
And DO NOT get me started on the Southern Poverty Law Center! Suing Klansmen and Nazis just because they like to beat up and murder people.
Yeah, get rid of all the lawyers.
Until YOU need one, of course.
Thank you for proving the truth of Ted Nelson's comment about fools and computers.
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She might go down on you in a theater...
But You Can't Do That On Television.
Yeah! That'll learn you!
"Why shouldn't it be illegal to be a dick, besides the argument that it would chill constructive debate?"
Slashdot user CleverNickName says: "Don't be a dick!"
That's good enough for me.
You still here? Don't you have a MoveOn head to stomp, somewhere?
Stop denying it. You're a classic Randroid/Teabagger. Come out of the closet and EMBRACE your pseudointellectual dumbassedness.
Your comment about the ignorance of the courts (because they disagree with your interpretation of the law) and conflating the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans with a census question about toilets brands you forever as an ignoramus.
Off to your next Rand Paul bundrally. The grownups are talking and you have nothing to add to the conversation. Save your tantrum for the cameras at the rally.
Yes. Yes, you are.
"WHOOOOOOOOOOSH!"
The sound of the joke flying SO FAR OVER YOUR HEAD, The Space Station is in danger of being hit.
Teabagger/Randroid says what?
" You read a LOT of Ayn Rand as a lonely, insecure teenager, didn't you?
Ha! I loathe Rand's work, and since I'm rather anti-capitalist, I'm sure she'd loathe me."
Which implies that you DID read a lot of Ayn Rand as a lonely insecure teenager. Really, you should have stuck with Lord of The Rings. It has ORCS!
"I was hosting this on-line copy [infamous.net] at an FTP site before the Web existed, thanks. "
Doesn't mean that you actually READ it or UNDERSTOOD it, though. Considering your Teabagger/Randroid comments, I'm thinking that you never did read the thing.
"Article 1, Section 2 authorizes the Feds to conduct an enumeration. That's a count. I don't mind being counted. It does not authorize an investigation into lifestyle. That's why I decline to answer anything on the census form beyond how many people live in my house."
This is why no one wants to play D&D with you. 'Rules lawyers' are SUCH a PITA!
"Diverse courts, up to SCOTUS, have affirmed that the Census can ask whatever questions it feels germane to its mission."
"The illiteracy of the courts does not change the meaning of the document."
Ah. The PERFECT Teabagger/Randroid rationalization! "The Courts are stupid! I KNOW more about the LAW than they do!" Hate to tell you this, but, no, you DON'T know more than the Courts.
"So, the bottom line is, you just proved yourself to be one of those morons who got their Official Libertarian Panties in a wad over a legitimate question in the Census."
"Considering that census data was, in the past, used to herd innocent Americans into concentration camps [scientificamerican.com], anyone who doesn't have at least a tiny drop of concern about census data is woefully ignorant."
And there we go. Teabagger/Randroid conflates the imprisonment of Japanese-Americans during WWII with a question about the number of toilets in a home.
How many toilets in your home = The rounding up and detention in concentration camps of American citizens.
The mind of a Teabagger/Randroid is a strange thing.
Assuming that they actually HAVE minds, that is, and not just a brainstem that reacts in a predictable manner when stimulated.
The grownups are having a conversation here.
So, look, Teabagger/Randroid, just "go Galt" or whatever it is you yahoos do.
There's a good little developmentally disabled chap!
"What business of the federal government is it how many toilets are in my home? And if it wants to know, if it asks nicely I might tell it; if it threatens me with legal sanction for failing to reply, my response is "fuck you, you have neither moral nor Constitutional authority to do so."
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You read a LOT of Ayn Rand as a lonely, insecure teenager, didn't you?
As for the Constitutionality of the Census, Article 1, Section 2. I'll wait while you look it up in your copy of the Constitution.
What? You don't have a copy. I do. It's about US$3.00 from the Govt. Printing Office. Ask nicely and your Representative will likely send you one for free.
Thomas Jefferson and a few others who had a hand in creating the US, the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution considered a census vital to the public interest. That'll be Article 1, Section 2, again. That's the first part after the Preamble .
Diverse courts, up to SCOTUS, have affirmed that the Census can ask whatever questions it feels germane to its mission.
There's a pretty good precis at the 2010 Census site.
As for the 'toilet' question. Statistics. Watching trends over the decades are very useful.
If you know how many toilets there are per person in Anytown, USA, you can statistically determine how many toilets there may be in ten, twenty, thirty years, which means that there will be a need for more water, because there will be more people, more houses (Fire Departments LIKE having lots of hydrants about the place. Makes it easier for them to fight fires.) and, potentially, more water treatment plants and sewage treatment plants.
OMG! SOCIALIZED FIRE DEPARTMENTS! SOCIALIZED CLEAN WATER! SOCIALIZED SEWAGE TREATMENT!
TEH HORRORZ!
So, the bottom line is, you just proved yourself to be one of those morons who got their Official Libertarian Panties in a wad over a legitimate question in the Census.
Please! Stop using the Internet, You're getting your stupid ALL OVER everything.
kthnxbai!
As a descendant of the indigenous peoples your ancestors invaded and pillaged, I understand your concerns and I feel your pain
Yeah, that doesn't really surprise me.
And Democrats are, as well known, all "lefties" and/or "greens".
Speaking of 'well-known biases'...
Yeah, I know. Used to be, "nigger", "chink", "wop" were all socially acceptable words.
But not today.
Funny how that happened, isn't it?
"There's no need for mandatory invasions of citizen's privacy."
If there is no personally identifying information associated with any particular census form, how is it that you can seriously claim privacy invasion?
One can only invade a person's privacy if you can point to that particular person and say that they do this that or the other, or that they are (Wacky christian cultist/wacky moslem wahabbi/wacky ultraorthodox jew/wacky atheist) or (really sexually kinky) or (racist) or (doesn't care a flying fuck about the latest celebrity scandal du jour)
Really, you sound just like the morons 20 something years ago who were fulminating about the US census wanting to know how many toilets were in the home.
"This is true regardless of whether or not the scientist works in a University (and therefore is more likely to be a leftie or green), or if he works in industry."
...thieves and vandals that steal data, set up botnets or vandalize websites.
"Thieves and Vandals".
Thank you for your kind attention.
We apologize that this was not a Serious and Constructive article about the Serious and Constructive uses of Serious and Constructive computers.
We humbly suggest that if you are keenly interested in Serious and Constructive uses for Serious and Constructive computers, that you seek out Serious and Constructive forums.
Those of us that appreciate what is known as a "cool hack", on the other hand, will not miss you one little bit.
"I would not trust this long-term."
As it's not YOUR computer, it's not your worry, is it?
Read a lot of Ayn Rand when you were a lonely teenager, didn't you, oh AC who is too scared to use its real name.
Had the laws not written by lawyers (fill in the blank) (fill in the number of decades/centuries/millenia) etc etc etc.
No claims there's no such thing as bad laws.
Which is why lawyers are needed to convince judges or lawmakers to strike down those bad laws.
Sorry about your pisspoor strawman up there.
Better luck next time, oh, AC who is too scared to use its real name.
Right. Because there are no more classes/groups of people that are hurt or deprived of their fundamental rights anymore.
Except when they contract food poisoning from tainted meat or eggs, injured or killed by poorly tested medicines, or are told that they have no rights, based upon nothing more than who they choose to love, or their desire not to be beaten or killed by scumbags.
"Normal people" can and do understand and process the law.
They go to school, study the law, graduate, pass the bar exams and become licensed lawyers.
Just like plumbers, electricians, doctors, etc.
Just because YOU don't understand the law, it doesn't necessarily mean that everyone doesn't understand it.
...in a user account when online, NEVER as Root, and Little Snitch is ALWAYS running in the background in ALL accounts, especially Root.
Ad Block Plus is also running at all times, that helps to eliminate the threat posed by hijacked banner or other ads.
Yes, the potential for the Mac to be compromised is there, but I'd have to do something really stupid to get malicious code onto the machine.
(Insert your own gratuitous but not unwarranted slams against the Windows OS here.)
Teabagger says what?
Indeed, why, all those lawyers, WTF did they do for Rosa Parks, and black kids wanting the same education as the white kids and all those other minorities who wanted to have the same rights as the majority, like being able to vote?
And the lawyers here in Massachusetts, who convinced the Supreme Judicial Court that, yes, gay people do indeed have the right to marry, lazy bastards, all they did was point to a couple of amendments in the Constitution and the Commonwealth charter!
And DO NOT get me started on the Southern Poverty Law Center! Suing Klansmen and Nazis just because they like to beat up and murder people.
Yeah, get rid of all the lawyers.
Until YOU need one, of course.
Thank you for proving the truth of Ted Nelson's comment about fools and computers.