You don't do what whatever crackpot on the street tells you to do if you believe you are in the right.
If somebody has an issue with your actions they need to negotiate with you or to force you to change your ways. Since SCO has not negotiated (hint: they have nothing to negotiate, they own nothing in Linux, their plan was to make money, not to correct a legal problem) then the Linux developpers should be told by a court of law that there is actually an infringement.
I will never submit to the first idiot telling me I am infringing on his rights if I believe the claim to be untrue, Linux developpers should do similarly.
BMW is not armtiwsting its distributors to only sell BMW (correction, they were, that was declared illegal in the EU).
How do you call this:" if you don't install my media player you can't bundle Windows with your PCs". Coercion, blackmail come to my mind. Add a monopolistic situation and frankly I don;t know from which planet you are coming from (are you some kind of hyper monopolistic Klingon or what?).
Common people. Inform yourselves, read, google a bit more.
MS makes deals in which they forbid PC manufacturers to bundle any other software but MS's own.
THus if DEll, HP or another company want to distribute MS Windows *and* a non MS media player, MS will not sign a contract that would allow a manufacturer to do just that.
You may undertand Bill Gates, I also understand Jack the Ripper, and frankly I don't like my understanding of him.
I will talk about the Nahuatl (Aztec culture) customs since I am not familiar with my paisanos in the Mayan region's costumes or with my compadres of Peru and other regions of the glorious former Inca empire.
Human sacrifice most probably was vastly exagerated, it was in the interest of the Xian misionaries to make anything related to the aborigin religion look bad so it would be easier to justify the extreme measures to Christianize indigenous Americans. There are accounts that talk about sacrificial orgies of up to 20000 people in a session, but in spite of knowing exactly where all the main religious places in Mexico are, no probe has been found (mass graves, resaonable amounts of skeletons here or there) that human sacrifice was practiced in such widespread scale.
And no wonder. In Nahuatl culture the "paradise" was reserved only for the warriors that died in battle, which meant basically the nobility, since not everybody was allowed to capture enemies for human sacrifice. It was immensely valuable to capture enemies alive so they could be offered to the god in sacrifice, a warrior that killed all his enemies in war was considered unworthy.
The human sacrifice was required in order to save the world from ending, since the Sun demanded human blood to raise every day.
Compare that outcome of war (keep the universe going with the sacrifice of war prisioners) in Nahuatl culture to what was happening elsewhere: the populace launched against each other, diying in the benefit of the powerful and when dying, not receiving any dignified tretament but a hasstly burial to avoid diseases.
Perhaps if Nahuatl values had prevailed and permated to other societies, today the powerful would think twice before embarking in wars since their personal safety would be at stake,
Human sacrifice was abolished by tlatoani ("emperor") Moctezuma II a few years before the arrival of the Spanish to today's Mexico.
You either post the thing the way it is or you censor it because it is not PC./. has to do a balancing act and in this case the decission is the correct one: this is worthwile talking about, so the puerile attitude of the poster can be put aside (without condoning it) for the sake of analyzing the information that is really important (the exploit).
Those people are paying taxes (sales tax or whatever you call it) and contribute to the economy keeping full industries alive. If they can't pay for their own healtcare is due to US policies that close the eyes to the reality of migrant workers.
I wish you would get your unstated wish and tomorrow all the "freeloaders" would vanish from the US. The eonomic collapse of the South of the US would be an admirable spectacle.
Many Mexican industries just died because they were not protected against the more competitive counterpart in the US and Canada. Or the unfairly subsidized ones (agriculture).
Of course you guys ignore that aspect of NAFTA and only whine about "job losses" while during most of NAFTA existence your unemployment rate has been the lowest for generations.
Pure misinformation and under the hoods xenophobia.
So you prefer to live in pain under perhaps a life threatening condition while you wait up to 18 months for your operation in the NHS.
You prefer that to a 12 hour flight and ac ouple of weeks at most in decent medical facilities.
Riiiigth.
And about the accents, wisen up boy, if I, who is not a natiove English speaker, can understand Indian accents, I am sure you can. Hell, I can understand now yordie, scottish, cornish and even some cockney accents.
With short termism prevalent in the corporate world, with people achieving success by meeting expected profits per quarter, and failed if expectations are not met (hint, profiuts were still made), it comes as no surprise that people can only measure success of a project merely on TCO or migration costs. The brainwashing of powerful IT companies is working wonderfully.
I want to be the owner of my IT infrastructure, both at home and at work (that is my compny or employer), I want to make the decisions of how, when and who does maintenance to my IT infrastrucutre, I don;t want to migrate or upgrade because it is convenient to the provider and when the provider asks me to upgrade or migrate I want to be able to shopr around for possible options.
I could not care less if going OSS will cost me a few bucks more in the short term if in the long term I will regain the control of my IT infrastrucutre which should be reflected in saner decision when spending money.
Shortermists should jump from a clift and marvel at the tremendous speed they achieve just one second before they come to a complete halt once they hit the floor.
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We know developpers are the greatest group of people to arrive to this planet since Jesus the Crhist himself.
We should worship them as we are not worthy to be in thier presence.
May we receive their blessed code.
Lets define a licensing scheme and then ignore it completely.
Way to go if you want to defend works released under that licensing, sure way to mantain credibility on the licensing scheme.
Honestly, your logic sense is not working mister, go and fix it.
You don't do what whatever crackpot on the street tells you to do if you believe you are in the right.
If somebody has an issue with your actions they need to negotiate with you or to force you to change your ways. Since SCO has not negotiated (hint: they have nothing to negotiate, they own nothing in Linux, their plan was to make money, not to correct a legal problem) then the Linux developpers should be told by a court of law that there is actually an infringement.
I will never submit to the first idiot telling me I am infringing on his rights if I believe the claim to be untrue, Linux developpers should do similarly.
No precedent can be established if no judgment is passed.
And support PC manufacturers that do not bundle MS Windows by default ( Shuttle comes to mind here, but there are many others).
BMW is not a monopoly, de facto or otherwise.
BMW is not armtiwsting its distributors to only sell BMW (correction, they were, that was declared illegal in the EU).
How do you call this:" if you don't install my media player you can't bundle Windows with your PCs". Coercion, blackmail come to my mind. Add a monopolistic situation and frankly I don;t know from which planet you are coming from (are you some kind of hyper monopolistic Klingon or what?).
Common people. Inform yourselves, read, google a bit more.
MS makes deals in which they forbid PC manufacturers to bundle any other software but MS's own.
THus if DEll, HP or another company want to distribute MS Windows *and* a non MS media player, MS will not sign a contract that would allow a manufacturer to do just that.
You may undertand Bill Gates, I also understand Jack the Ripper, and frankly I don't like my understanding of him.
The simple concept of why a monopoly is treated differently has left some brains in their virginal state.
Must be a calcium overdose....
The simple concept of why a monopoly is treated differently has left some brains in their virginal state.
Most be a calcium overdose....
I will talk about the Nahuatl (Aztec culture) customs since I am not familiar with my paisanos in the Mayan region's costumes or with my compadres of Peru and other regions of the glorious former Inca empire.
Human sacrifice most probably was vastly exagerated, it was in the interest of the Xian misionaries to make anything related to the aborigin religion look bad so it would be easier to justify the extreme measures to Christianize indigenous Americans. There are accounts that talk about sacrificial orgies of up to 20000 people in a session, but in spite of knowing exactly where all the main religious places in Mexico are, no probe has been found (mass graves, resaonable amounts of skeletons here or there) that human sacrifice was practiced in such widespread scale.
And no wonder. In Nahuatl culture the "paradise" was reserved only for the warriors that died in battle, which meant basically the nobility, since not everybody was allowed to capture enemies for human sacrifice. It was immensely valuable to capture enemies alive so they could be offered to the god in sacrifice, a warrior that killed all his enemies in war was considered unworthy.
The human sacrifice was required in order to save the world from ending, since the Sun demanded human blood to raise every day.
Compare that outcome of war (keep the universe going with the sacrifice of war prisioners) in Nahuatl culture to what was happening elsewhere: the populace launched against each other, diying in the benefit of the powerful and when dying, not receiving any dignified tretament but a hasstly burial to avoid diseases.
Perhaps if Nahuatl values had prevailed and permated to other societies, today the powerful would think twice before embarking in wars since their personal safety would be at stake,
Human sacrifice was abolished by tlatoani ("emperor") Moctezuma II a few years before the arrival of the Spanish to today's Mexico.
Sorry to rain in your parade, nothing but scrupulous full adherance to licenses is going to keep OSS projects on the clear from a legal point of view.
/. , otherwise you would know why this is important and not only purposeless nitpicking.
Obviously you have SCO filtered out in
Now I want to read all those advocates of thightly integrating an user space application like IE with the OS's kernel.
For ages many people have tried to drive home in the MSofties' brains ahy this is a bad idea.
Hopefully (unlikely) they will get it now.
Linux has been here for many years, we are waiting.
Oh wait, it is not that easy because the OS is of superior quality.
OK, that is the end of your conspiracy theory.
.... so maybe all is not that rosy after all?
You either post the thing the way it is or you censor it because it is not PC. /. has to do a balancing act and in this case the decission is the correct one: this is worthwile talking about, so the puerile attitude of the poster can be put aside (without condoning it) for the sake of analyzing the information that is really important (the exploit).
But just for the sake of argument, where would you get free patches for Red Hat 7.3?
In the same place where you would get your patches for Windows 3.1.
No wait, I could pay somebody to patch my RH system.
Who is going to fix this hypotethical yours?
Of course you realize that it is absolutely pointless.
If MS is doing its work they will check the exploit's code and fix it in a timely fashion.
My mother in law did just that: hip replacement.
She was 80 years old at the time.
Of course YMMV, but is not an impossibility.
Funnily enough we later learned that one world authority on hip replacement actually lives in the thirld world country where she was living.
Oh well, it was money well spent anyway.
... that iw ill not make any further comments about it.
The US middle class is far too rich and far too wasteful.
SUVx, obesity are just signs that US workers have enough range of manouvre to lower their salaries without their level of life diminishing too much.
That will make you competitive again, simply you have to be more rational about your expenses in order to be able to accept lower salaries.
Those people are paying taxes (sales tax or whatever you call it) and contribute to the economy keeping full industries alive. If they can't pay for their own healtcare is due to US policies that close the eyes to the reality of migrant workers.
I wish you would get your unstated wish and tomorrow all the "freeloaders" would vanish from the US. The eonomic collapse of the South of the US would be an admirable spectacle.
India was not Independent 60 years ago.
60 years after Independence half the US was still relying on slave labour to generate wealth.
Many Mexican industries just died because they were not protected against the more competitive counterpart in the US and Canada. Or the unfairly subsidized ones (agriculture).
Of course you guys ignore that aspect of NAFTA and only whine about "job losses" while during most of NAFTA existence your unemployment rate has been the lowest for generations.
Pure misinformation and under the hoods xenophobia.
So you prefer to live in pain under perhaps a life threatening condition while you wait up to 18 months for your operation in the NHS.
You prefer that to a 12 hour flight and ac ouple of weeks at most in decent medical facilities.
Riiiigth.
And about the accents, wisen up boy, if I, who is not a natiove English speaker, can understand Indian accents, I am sure you can. Hell, I can understand now yordie, scottish, cornish and even some cockney accents.
With short termism prevalent in the corporate world, with people achieving success by meeting expected profits per quarter, and failed if expectations are not met (hint, profiuts were still made), it comes as no surprise that people can only measure success of a project merely on TCO or migration costs. The brainwashing of powerful IT companies is working wonderfully.
I want to be the owner of my IT infrastructure, both at home and at work (that is my compny or employer), I want to make the decisions of how, when and who does maintenance to my IT infrastrucutre, I don;t want to migrate or upgrade because it is convenient to the provider and when the provider asks me to upgrade or migrate I want to be able to shopr around for possible options.
I could not care less if going OSS will cost me a few bucks more in the short term if in the long term I will regain the control of my IT infrastrucutre which should be reflected in saner decision when spending money.
Shortermists should jump from a clift and marvel at the tremendous speed they achieve just one second before they come to a complete halt once they hit the floor.