... German workers are as highly rated, normally better, than their counterparts in other developped countries.
If the country is producing it can afford some largesse when dishing out benefits (some are arguably outlandish, but 3 years maternity leave to reasr a child seems reasonable to me).
Today the US is the biggest consumer of Iraqi oil (which find its way through third parties).
Today's oil price was fixed in the futures markets: it his high because when oil was sold several months ago the perception of the people is that oil was going to be high (everybody knew that around this time they may be war, but of course nobody has a cristal ball so it may seem to the uniinitiated like they are just hiking the price now, it is amazing that they got it so right actually).
I am sure you realize that before we can use oil it has to be transfromed, if it is sitting on a tanker it is of little use to the average person...
When many of your basic industries (agriculture, cleaning, rubish collection, etc) collapse because you find nobody willing to do it, then you'll have a lot of explaining to do to all the affected people (and lets forget about lost business and loss of tax revenue due to what immigrant contribute to ytour economy).
All those workers could work as well in thei won country in many cases, thus the US economy would not collect any taxes from them and the respective local economies would not benefit from those workers spending in the US.
If you prefer them to work in their home countries, so be it, but the jobs are going to go to people more skilled, willing to work for less or that are in the right spot where both of those curves intersect. You can have them at home or half world away, your country's choice really, as long as we have free markets other people outside the US could be the best ones for certain jobs.
Market forces dictate that people offering a good (whatever that good is) cheaper will sell more of it driving out of business thet people that sell the same good more expensive.
All you pseudo-patriotic considerations are completely devoid of any basis on economic realities, the reality is that there are many people willing to do the same work for less. You either adapt (specialize in a niche market, do something else, charge less) or will be left behind waving your flag while claiming unemployment benefits.
A foreigner that gets a visa to work in your country contributes to the local economy by demanding goods and services and paying taxes.
A foreigner that works in his own country for the same company contributes far less to your country's economy (appart from the increase in profits for you country's company, but in a well managed company those should not be too different).
So I believe any goverment that adjusts policies to the eonomic realities of this world (i.e. there are many programmers that work for less than programmers in the US) is doing a service to its people by not living in denial of the worldwide market forces.
yup... gotta luv not being a/.subscriber... did not get the new Mozilla announcement from "the mysterious future" and will be able to snag it after the hype has subsided and more bugs have been iorned out in a couple of weeks, it may be even included in my favourite Linux Mag DVD...
Cars are the most efficient way to transport people.
Why should we care about the environment?
Industrial produced meat is the more efficient way to produce protein.
Why should we care about chickens in inhumane conditions?
There are people that have principles and live by them. Then are the others that use the best tool for the job without caring about the implications of their choices.
Because there was also another Samurai (played by him masterfully) that faked his way to Samuraihood because he was just an impostor, althoug a brave one. I think 90% of programmers are like this Samurai but vehemently claim to be like the others.
People, get of your fat a@@es and rent and watch this movie.
Normally they require familiarity with Office Automation Suits, or other parlance that makes clear they are computer literate, nowhere is normally there to be seen the name of the beast mentioned.
Even with cheap MS licenses an OSS based machine is easier and cheaper to administer.
If you include the prices for common services in the mix (web, mail, disk, printer servers, etc) then the ellusive TCO of ownership becomes a mooth point in favour of open solutions.
Add to that that you are never thretened by the BSA, that you don't need to spend time and $ tracking your licenses and the advantages of OSS are more evident.
And I have not even mentioned that the software costs 0 Vietnamese Dongs, you upgrade it when you need to, and that in many instances your software can be tailored to run in the hardware you currently have and not the other way around.
I hate MS, I loathe it, I despise it, but it is part of the IT ecosystem, any proficient IT person should have at least a passing knowledge of how MS stuff works because sooner rather than later you will need to integrate a MS machine into your UNIX world, program a product for MS machine, administer a MS machine, work in a MS machine or play in a MS machine.
An educational institution should pursue knowledge, it should not become hostage to the external agendas of its donors (MS or pro OSS alike).
Nobody objects to MS being a successful company, what many people despise is that sucha successful company uses illegal and immoral means to keep its dominant position in the market.
Many people want a healthy innovative MS that earns its cash based on merit and not based in arm-twisting and "embracing and exteding" to the extent that they are found guilty in a court of law.
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It is well known that leftist normally learn their trad in Universities.
Try again, you may amuse us next time.
... German workers are as highly rated, normally better, than their counterparts in other developped countries.
If the country is producing it can afford some largesse when dishing out benefits (some are arguably outlandish, but 3 years maternity leave to reasr a child seems reasonable to me).
..." one of our biggest problems is finding employees who are willing to work for us" you can;t understand?
And how do you blame that in foreigners (legal or otherwise)?
They are paying, don't you get it? People do not want to do those shitty jobs...
Today the US is the biggest consumer of Iraqi oil (which find its way through third parties).
Today's oil price was fixed in the futures markets: it his high because when oil was sold several months ago the perception of the people is that oil was going to be high (everybody knew that around this time they may be war, but of course nobody has a cristal ball so it may seem to the uniinitiated like they are just hiking the price now, it is amazing that they got it so right actually).
I am sure you realize that before we can use oil it has to be transfromed, if it is sitting on a tanker it is of little use to the average person...
If the economy grows there is no recession.
The classical definition of recession implies a contraction in growth.
And the eonomies of te countries involved looked mightly healty in 1946....
The economies of the UK, France, Germany, Japan and many other looked mighty healthy after WWII.
That all the economic growth happend while they were at their longest period without killing each other must be a fucking coincidence.
And if you only take into account my bathroom the crime rate is 0%, unless you wish to add all the dead bacteria to your wonderful statistics.
I will not bother you with why cities as big as Tokyo, London or Berlin do not suffer the same problem; that would be too much to ask from your brain.
When many of your basic industries (agriculture, cleaning, rubish collection, etc) collapse because you find nobody willing to do it, then you'll have a lot of explaining to do to all the affected people (and lets forget about lost business and loss of tax revenue due to what immigrant contribute to ytour economy).
Stop them, I beg you.
Xenophobic morons, all are the same.
... by maintaining the local economy strong.
All those workers could work as well in thei won country in many cases, thus the US economy would not collect any taxes from them and the respective local economies would not benefit from those workers spending in the US.
If you prefer them to work in their home countries, so be it, but the jobs are going to go to people more skilled, willing to work for less or that are in the right spot where both of those curves intersect. You can have them at home or half world away, your country's choice really, as long as we have free markets other people outside the US could be the best ones for certain jobs.
Or do you like it only when it benefits you?
Market forces dictate that people offering a good (whatever that good is) cheaper will sell more of it driving out of business thet people that sell the same good more expensive.
All you pseudo-patriotic considerations are completely devoid of any basis on economic realities, the reality is that there are many people willing to do the same work for less. You either adapt (specialize in a niche market, do something else, charge less) or will be left behind waving your flag while claiming unemployment benefits.
Capitalism for you.
A foreigner that gets a visa to work in your country contributes to the local economy by demanding goods and services and paying taxes.
A foreigner that works in his own country for the same company contributes far less to your country's economy (appart from the increase in profits for you country's company, but in a well managed company those should not be too different).
So I believe any goverment that adjusts policies to the eonomic realities of this world (i.e. there are many programmers that work for less than programmers in the US) is doing a service to its people by not living in denial of the worldwide market forces.
... what part of "immoral trade" can't you understand?
OK, second hand or antique, but not new. Please.
.... have an use, 15000 years ago, the paintings also.
Arts in any era fullfill many very important social functions.
Diamonds do, but the horrifying background of how that trade works should put off all but the most indecent people.
I smell a hole, of the security kind ...
yup... gotta luv not being a /.subscriber ... did not get the new Mozilla announcement from "the mysterious future" and will be able to snag it after the hype has subsided and more bugs have been iorned out in a couple of weeks, it may be even included in my favourite Linux Mag DVD ...
Cars are the most efficient way to transport people.
Why should we care about the environment?
Industrial produced meat is the more efficient way to produce protein.
Why should we care about chickens in inhumane conditions?
There are people that have principles and live by them. Then are the others that use the best tool for the job without caring about the implications of their choices.
Because there was also another Samurai (played by him masterfully) that faked his way to Samuraihood because he was just an impostor, althoug a brave one. I think 90% of programmers are like this Samurai but vehemently claim to be like the others.
People, get of your fat a@@es and rent and watch this movie.
To that land where the rivers are made of honey, were it nevers rains, were there are no badies and were the projects' requirments never change!
You would have helped your point remaining quiet.
So much xenophobic misinformed diatribe based in nothing is completely ridiculous.
It would be good you show in what other than thin air are you basing your conclussions.
That is the lamest excuse to grant protection against censorship.
If games were art they would be the only art form ever known to mankind aimed squarely at males aged 16-35 with high purchasing power.
... I know several people that have.
Normally they require familiarity with Office Automation Suits, or other parlance that makes clear they are computer literate, nowhere is normally there to be seen the name of the beast mentioned.
Even with cheap MS licenses an OSS based machine is easier and cheaper to administer.
If you include the prices for common services in the mix (web, mail, disk, printer servers, etc) then the ellusive TCO of ownership becomes a mooth point in favour of open solutions.
Add to that that you are never thretened by the BSA, that you don't need to spend time and $ tracking your licenses and the advantages of OSS are more evident.
And I have not even mentioned that the software costs 0 Vietnamese Dongs, you upgrade it when you need to, and that in many instances your software can be tailored to run in the hardware you currently have and not the other way around.
... I would say do not accept it.
I hate MS, I loathe it, I despise it, but it is part of the IT ecosystem, any proficient IT person should have at least a passing knowledge of how MS stuff works because sooner rather than later you will need to integrate a MS machine into your UNIX world, program a product for MS machine, administer a MS machine, work in a MS machine or play in a MS machine.
An educational institution should pursue knowledge, it should not become hostage to the external agendas of its donors (MS or pro OSS alike).
... they need to be educated.
Nobody objects to MS being a successful company, what many people despise is that sucha successful company uses illegal and immoral means to keep its dominant position in the market.
Many people want a healthy innovative MS that earns its cash based on merit and not based in arm-twisting and "embracing and exteding" to the extent that they are found guilty in a court of law.