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Suggestions for Functional Jewelry?

szyzyg asks: "I'm getting married and my girlfriend and I have been looking around at rings and not really getting anywhere. I have all sorts of high concepts about what this should represent and I keep coming back to the thought 'nothing which is useless can be truly beautiful'. So I've been fighting with the idea of how to make a ring which has some use beyond simple symbolism... concepts like using magnetic minerals to turn it into a compass, or engraving some sort of measuring mechanism into it. So here's the challenge I'm putting to the Slashdot bright idea machine: How do I make a simple piece of jewelry useful? Someone out there must have better ideas."

205 comments

  1. Put a Q twist on it. by HaloZero · · Score: 3, Funny

    Add a little James-Bond-Esque laser to it. Just make sure she takes it off with the rest of her stuff before you tie her up. ;-)

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    1. Re:Put a Q twist on it. by jo42 · · Score: 1

      ...vibrating butt plug...

  2. No Date! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    What ever you get, do *not* engrave a date inside - too often it turns out to be a "best before" date.

  3. Wedding Rings are usefull by Merlin42 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For those who are not socially inept the wedding ring serves as a very simple communication device. It informs people as to who is 'off the market'. This same type of communication has been acheived by other cultures in different forms, eg a red dot on the forehead or a basil plant in the window.

    1. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by zulux · · Score: 3, Funny

      It informs people as to who is 'off the market'.

      This is certainly true - but in another way a ring can say:

      "Hey - We can have a bit of fun, and I don't want commitment: I already have somone to do housework/heavy lifting and already have 2.5 children"

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    2. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 2, Funny

      Or the ever famous:

      "Hey, I was a good catch, but you missed it. Nyaa nyaa."

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    3. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course this is probably an engagement ring, so it's more like "hurry up while you still got a chance."

    4. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by ichimunki · · Score: 1

      Off the market? Ha. The marriage market maybe...

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    5. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only this, but to the trashy women who hang out in bars waiting to get picked up, this is a total babe magnet. I think the reasoning goes something like, "if some other woman married him, he must be a good catch." Plus they see it as a challenge to see if they can steal the guy away from his woman.

      I've actually heard of single guys wearing wedding bands to bars and doing far better with the ladies. Crazy, huh.

    6. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I saw that Seinfeld episode too.

    7. Re:Wedding Rings are usefull by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Damn, there's a Seinfeld episode I haven't seen? Crap. I thought I saw them all!

  4. Secret compartment? by skaffen42 · · Score: 3, Funny

    How about a secret compartment in which you can keep a cyanide pill?

    This is cool in a James Bond kind of way AND you will have a quick way out of the marriage if the mother in law gets too much.

    :)

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    1. Re:Secret compartment? by pcmills · · Score: 4, Funny

      Do you eat it or give it to your mother in law?

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    2. Re:Secret compartment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mother in law for sure. I love my wife like crazy and want to spend every moment with her. Alive. But Mom has got to go. Funny thing is, us poisoning her seems to always be on her mind (along with everything else she imagines people are doing against her -- she has paranoid personality disorder). Every time we offer her any food we've cooked, she says we're trying to poison her. Might as well grant that wish!

      (note: I do not want to poison my mother in law; this is a purely theoretical discussion, though I would be perfectly happy if she just decided to go and never speak to us again. stop tracking me, fbi)

  5. The New Bush/Ashcroft Jewelry Line by Dios · · Score: 1
    Mood rings that reflect the current alert level.


    Earings that double as biohazard detectors


    Glasses than can shield your eyes from nuclear blasts.


    Watch/Dirty Bomb detector (don't leave home without one!)

    1. Re:The New Bush/Ashcroft Jewelry Line by Keighvin · · Score: 1

      That last one currently retails for ~$1,500USD.

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    2. Re:The New Bush/Ashcroft Jewelry Line by Datoyminaytah · · Score: 1

      > Glasses than can shield your eyes from nuclear blasts.

      So you can watch the final seconds of your doom (between the flash and the shock/heat wave) rather than waiting for the end in darkness.

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  6. You should get her a heat-sensitive gold band by Mordant · · Score: 5, Funny

    that when put into the hearth, shows funny-looking script characters on the inside, resizes itself to fit the wearer's finger, and answers to the name of "Precious."

    1. Re:You should get her a heat-sensitive gold band by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ironically, in a couple of years, you'll be looking for a mount of fire to throw the cursed ring into...

  7. If i made a "functional" ring, by LittleBigLui · · Score: 0, Redundant

    it would be
    One ring to rule them all,
    One ring to find them,
    One ring to bring them all
    and in the darkness find them.

    On the other hand, mood rings are pretty cool, too.

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    1. Re:If i made a "functional" ring, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I wanted to make a functional ring, I'd use Lisp and avoid using setq. I think the data structures in Lisp would support ring structures especially well.

    2. Re:If i made a "functional" ring, by mokiejovis · · Score: 1

      BIND. Bind them.

    3. Re:If i made a "functional" ring, by LittleBigLui · · Score: 1

      whoopsie. typo. good thing i put the inscription through slash-spellcheck-a-dot before burning it onto the ring. you know how ill-tempered sauron gets if someone screws up his jewellery.

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  8. "I'm getting married" by Dukebytes · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Can you say diamond? Seriously - even if shes a g33ky g1rl - I would take a look at a diamond. ALL of her family and friends will be checking out her wedding ring - ALL of them...

    You dont want your future mother-in-law saying "Well that Billy is a nice boy - but geesh did you see that ring he bought her? I thought those computer people made good money?" know what I mean? :)

    If you want to make her one - go for it - but get a expensive one to put on her finger in front of the preach...

    Duke

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    1. Re:"I'm getting married" by buro9 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      which is fine until you travel to some parts of the world where such an advertisement will ensure you'll be mugged.

      remember that you'll be wearing this for the rest of your lives if all goes well... as such whilst thoughts on a use are cool, there is a lot to be said for a simple gold band.

    2. Re:"I'm getting married" by zulux · · Score: 4, Informative


      Real women don't want a diamind:

      A real woman will know that a diamond is just an expensive way to dazzle the easily dazzled.

      She will also know it's just carbon.

      She will aslo know that it's a common stone, kept uncommon by a diamond cartel.

      She will aslo know that many diamons are mined by children in conditions akin to slavery.

      She would also rather have flying lessons, a trip on the Concorde to Paris, or a Harley.

      I suguest, that any woman that has a social structure that makes getting a diamond more important than getting a hang-glider and lessons, is a woman to be dumped to the curb.

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    3. Re:"I'm getting married" by hafree · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yeah I have to agree here, this is one of the gayest "ask slashdot" questions I've heard in a long time. Get her a rock, not a secret decoder ring.

    4. Re:"I'm getting married" by dubl-u · · Score: 0

      Yeah I have to agree here, this is one of the gayest "ask slashdot" questions I've heard in a long time.

      They sound pretty heterosexual to me. Or are you saying that the poster is a woman, too?

    5. Re:"I'm getting married" by Wolfier · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I think you're talking about "Smart women" instead of "Real women".

      Not all real women are smart, but we're safe to assume the converse that all smart women are real.

    6. Re:"I'm getting married" by RevAaron · · Score: 2, Funny

      gayest. hrmm, yeah.

      why is it that homophobetards always pick the darndest time to call something gay? Oh, this dude is going to marry a women- how gay!

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    7. Re:"I'm getting married" by Yuan-Lung · · Score: 1

      A wedding ring does not neccessarily have to be expansive. IMHO, that's just shallow.

      I actually was able to get in agreement with my wife that a diamond ring is just a waste of money. We ended up getting a pair of plain silver rings (> $20cdn each) and a Playstation 2. Atleast we got more fun out of the money.

    8. Re:"I'm getting married" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gay doesn't mean the same as homosexual. A man can be completely straight and still be "gay."

    9. Re:"I'm getting married" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Diamonds go on engagement rings. The wedding ring itself should be plain. Some women wear both afterwards, but some don't.

    10. Re:"I'm getting married" by bluGill · · Score: 1

      How does the song go? Something like
      "Daddie never gave mommey a diamond ring,
      but mommie never had to worrk about anything
      Cause what he gave her came from the heart
      In a prommise that was never torn apart"

      Alan Jackson if I remember right. I'm not nessicarly sure you would like the song, but it contains some useful advice: there is something more important than the ring, the promise. Some people demand the ring, and I don't have a problem with it (so long as you get one of the few diamonds that DeBeers doesn't sell...) if you want one. However the ring is not what is important. If you don't want one, then don't feel bound by tardition or what others will think.

    11. Re:"I'm getting married" by intermodal · · Score: 1

      what crap. marketing strikes again...score +1 for deBeers. man...

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    12. Re:"I'm getting married" by emilami · · Score: 1

      I abhor gold and diamonds. My husband and I have matching silver rings that together cost, I believe, $32. I love the rings because they match each other and because they match our personality. That is the most important thing in a wedding ring, I think. It should come from the heart and mean a lot. I would have been mad if he just went out and bought the most expensive ring he could find, as many do. I enjoy our video games and systems a lot more than I ever could have enjoyed gold and diamonds!

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    13. Re:"I'm getting married" by ineigenshi · · Score: 1

      "Expansive"? I would go a bit further and say it shouldn't be expansive; that would be a huge ring. It probably wouldn't even fit into the house.

  9. Ugly but functional by bjpirt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    it's pretty ugly visually, but if you're more turned on by functionality then this peasant sundial ring might be the ring for you.

    It's cheap too :-)

    1. Re:Ugly but functional by foog · · Score: 1

      except it's not meant to be worn on the finger. it's a pendant.

      foog

  10. Wedding ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting
    I resisted enriching DeBeers with my wife's wedding ring, and overall my suggestion would be "don't". People are very irrational when it comes to closely held beliefs**.


    Eventually after lots of pain she came to appreciate her original ring more than the regular engagement ring, but it took many months and quite a few girlfriends to say "wow that is a nice stone".


    Now about the use of the ring, it sends a message to her: I love you so much that I'm happy to waste a few grand on you.


    Lastly, sometimes the most beautiful objects are those with no use at all. The caves of Lascaux painted 15,000 years ago are one of the most beautiful sights you could ever see.



    ** Try to argue that M$ is other than absolute evil or that Linux could be improved here, and you'll see what I mean :-)

    1. Re:Wedding ring by xXunderdogXx · · Score: 1

      On a completely offtopic note, your quote that "People are very irrational when it comes to closely held beliefs" reminded me of a quote by Rodney Brooks in "Flesh and Machines" .. I don't have it with me but it was strikingly similar.

      Anyway he suggested that the idea behind robots being considered "alive" would be resisted the same way any belief that is closely held is resisted. It doesn't imply anything about the person who is holding that belief, because it is human nature to cherish certain beliefs no matter what proof is presented to them.

    2. Re:Wedding ring by Tackhead · · Score: 2, Funny
      > Lastly, sometimes the most beautiful objects are those with no use at all.

      True, however, all male geeks need to be aware that this is one of those sentences for which no interpretation exists that allows for the continued attachment of their testicles to their body.

  11. sextant... by tcyun · · Score: 1

    If you were really energetic... I suspect one could assume the existance of a straight edge and a string. With the right markings on the ring, I think you could turn it into a make-shift sextant. Hang the ring from a string, use the straight edge to line up points in the sky, etc. The small diameter of the ring would probably make it almost useless, but it would be a neat story. If you added a magnet, it could serve as a neat multi-purpose device.

    Granted, I do not know too much about sextants.

    Plus, you get the really awful pun...

  12. Twist Tie by _iris · · Score: 2, Funny

    Just go with the twist tie. They have plenty of uses; closing food containers, picking your teeth, manually opening CD-ROM drives, etc.

  13. Diamonds by tsa · · Score: 1, Funny

    > 'nothing which is useless can be truly beautiful'.

    Give her a diamond. They are very beautiful and you can make pick-up needles from them.

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    1. Re:Diamonds by .milfox · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's always synthetics. :P Same molecular arrangement, better quality, lot less exploitation. :P

    2. Re:Diamonds by SirTwitchALot · · Score: 1

      What about tungsten rings? Hardest metal known to man, so it still has that indestructable feel. Stays shiny forever, and it still costs quite a bit.

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    3. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's hard to justify a shiny peice of carbon with an artifically high price on it when you look at all the human rights violations the companies that mine them cause.

      Let me guess. You're single.

    4. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand do you really want to marry someone who is so easily manipulated by marketing and social pressures?

    5. Re:Diamonds by Morphine007 · · Score: 1

      so get a polar bear diamond... sheesh...

    6. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you'll be single for quite a while with that attitude.

    7. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On the other hand do you really want to marry someone who is so easily manipulated by marketing and social pressures?

      Yes.

    8. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course, what we all realy want to know is what is the longest Anonymous Coward-only thread on slashdot?

    9. Re:Diamonds by CanSpice · · Score: 1

      Then buy Canadian diamonds if you're so worried about the ethics behind diamond mining.

      There are always alternatives.

    10. Re:Diamonds by unitron · · Score: 1, Troll
      "At least Microsoft doesn't use slave labour, murder people, and abuse their workers."

      Are you sure that the jury isn't still out on that? We are talking about Microsoft here.

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    11. Re:Diamonds by krysith · · Score: 1

      Years ago, I was engaged to a beautiful, intelligent woman. I had inquired into her tastes in rings before popping the question, and she was very anti-diamonds/gold (this was during Apartheid). I had a jeweller friend make her a unique, intricate, beautiful ring out of silver and amethyst (her favorites). She was very happy with the ring when I showed it to her, and wore it proudly.
      Time passed...
      She developed a new group of friends, and to her new girlfriends, her ring was "not good enough". They felt that the ring was a sign of me being too cheap to spend a significant amount of money on her. She asked me for a diamond ring to replace the cheap POS I had gotten for her a year before. This really hurt me, not because of the money, but because she felt that the sign of my love wasn't good enough.
      I ended up not getting her the new ring. Our relationship had changed, and so had she. Asking for the new ring was a symptom, not a cause, of a bad relationship. She started out loving the ring (and me) and ended up hating it (and me). I eventually left her.

      I hear that she took a blowtorch to the ring after I left her.

    12. Re:Diamonds by Orthanc_duo · · Score: 1

      obviously you haven't seen the latest 007

    13. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Now thats something I'd like to find out.

    14. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Me 2

    15. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      22 straight posts. achieved 3 separate times, most recently following the blizzard of '78.

    16. Re:Diamonds by Hast · · Score: 1

      Reminds me of a similar question a few months back. It was regarding the metal of engagement/wedding rings.

      One poster know a person who had a ring of titanium. Looks like white gold, but you get bragging rings, or somthing. Unfortunately her ring caught in a piece of machinery, ripped the flesh right off of her finger (so she was left with only the bone). This because a ring out of a hard metal can't be severed easily in case of an emergency.

      So while wedding rings are not something I'm currently looking for I'd say go with something that breaks. Is there really a point to wearing jewelry made out of the same material as prothetic limb attachments or heavy-duty mining equipment?

    17. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm, that's interesting. When was that?

    18. Re:Diamonds by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a FEMALE, i dont see what the big deal is about having a diamond. Besides all of the discussion about child labor, a lot of girls i know would just rather have something colorful... diamonds are really more of an out-of-date tradition. Buying a daimond is more like something easy a guy can do so that he doesnt have to guess at what a girl wants. Personally, i liked the idea of a sundial ring or a puzzle ring. (The idea of a puzzle ring was actually one of my initial thoughts when i read the question.) Aside from that, there is the idea of turning it into some sort of measuring device, like a ruler. Make the ring an ellipse with a perimeter of, say, 1 inch; she could slowly roll the ring to find a distance.

  14. Computer chip in your ring by iamsure · · Score: 3, Interesting

    http://www.ibutton.com/

    It allows you to store cryptographic keys, and more.

    Design a ring that uses that as the facet, and you're all set. Very functional, very useful.

  15. A word to the wise.... by Asprin · · Score: 4, Insightful


    I really do wish you luck, but did you run this past her?

    Are you **ABSOLUTELY** **CERTAIN** she's OK with the idea of jewelry that "does stuff"?

    Don't get me wrong - I'd love the idea of having a ring that could double as a compass or has a laser or maybe has a web server in it. But I'm not a chick for a reason. My wife would have killed me if I got her a ring that did anything except sit there and depreciate - that's why I let her pick it out. If nothing else, tell her that its super-power is that it also cuts glass.

    Seriously, man -- stop the bleeding before it starts. THIS COULD BE A TEST! Chicks *love* doing kind of thing to us.

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    1. Re:A word to the wise.... by waytoomuchcoffee · · Score: 1

      Um, the rings don't have to match you know -- get what you want, and she gets what she wants.

    2. Re:A word to the wise.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seriously, man -- stop the bleeding before it starts. THIS COULD BE A TEST! Chicks *love* doing kind of thing to us.

      C'mon, this is a guy who believe utility is more important than beauty. Surely this 500 pound beast of a wife of his is desperate enough regardless of what ring he gets.

    3. Re:A word to the wise.... by Asprin · · Score: 1



      C'mon, this is a guy who believe utility is more important than beauty. Surely this 500 pound beast of a wife of his is desperate enough regardless of what ring he gets.

      Trust me, man. *NO* woman is desperate enough to think that a secret decoder wedding ring is OK. She might be desperate enough to lie about it, but SHE WILL NOT THINK THIS IS COOL. ;)

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  16. On engraving... by waytoomuchcoffee · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My wedding ring is pretty geeky -- it's titanium with engraving -- dots and vertical lines representing 0's and 1's, which spell out my wife's initials in binary (in 5-bit letters). I got it here; the guy that runs the place is very open into making custom-made designs.

    I had thought about actually using it for something, like an encryption key -- for example if I started at a certain place on the ring, went a certain direction and counted up 7 or 8 bit ascii words, I could get a passphrase after a while, a pretty strong one. At this point all I would need to memorize for a theoretically very long passphrase would be the starting location, direction, and number of letters.

    Even if the men in black kidnapped me and found my ring, they would still have a hard time figuring it out ;-) Now only if I could find a titanium hat -- the tin ones are so 20th century.

    1. Re:On engraving... by waytoomuchcoffee · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Actually I meant to say inlay rather than engraving... silver inlay on a titanium ring is really beautiful. I like reactive inlays (like silver) myself, rather than gold, as it changes color slightly week by week.

    2. Re:On engraving... by cybermace5 · · Score: 2, Informative

      On titanium rings:

      They're not practical for any purpose other than being a wedding ring, and do you honestly need any more purpose? If I ever have need of one, I'm definitely going with the sine wave style.

      Dan Statman (of the site you linked) is a member of the TurboCNC community, CNC software that runs on an old 486 with step rates up to 20,000Hz. TurboCNC is being actively developed by Dave Kowalczyk. It's 100% free to use, $20 for the Pascal source. This is for something that can cost hundreds or thousands of dollars elsewhere, and would never run on anything below 400MHz.

      Dan Statman built all of his own tools, using TurboCNC to drive his titanium-ring engraver. He quit his job and does this full-time now. He's a regular poster (as am I) in the TurboCNC user group.

      It's amazing what you can do with $300 of scrap metal and surplus parts.

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    3. Re:On engraving... by JediTrainer · · Score: 1

      dots and vertical lines representing 0's and 1's, which spell out my wife's initials in binary (in 5-bit letters).

      Dude - you turned your wife into a bar code! My fiancee would kill me if I ever tried that!

      must... refrain from making jokes... mark of the beast...

      (sorry. I was almost successful)

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    4. Re:On engraving... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if the men in black kidnapped me and found my ring, they would still have a hard time figuring it out ;-)

      Security through obscurity, my friend.

    5. Re:On engraving... by jareds · · Score: 1

      No, if someone had your ring, it would be extremely easy to figure out. If all that determines your passphrase is starting location, direction, and number of letters, we're talking well under 20 bits of entropy. That's just plain awful.

    6. Re:On engraving... by waytoomuchcoffee · · Score: 1

      I think the chances of someone getting my ring is way under the chance of someone breaking into my home and getting my key. I don't take off my ring ever.

      And it's just plain awful only if you know what you are looking for. If someone DOES steal my ring somehow, how would they know that the pretty inlaid dots are my secret passphrase?

    7. Re:On engraving... by thumperward · · Score: 1
      If someone DOES steal my ring somehow, how would they know that the pretty inlaid dots are my secret passphrase?


      That's like the oldest trick in the book, dude... haven't you ever been to the movies?

      - Chris
    8. Re:On engraving... by multriha · · Score: 1
      The one problem with titanium is that most EMT and many ERs don't have the equipment to cut it off your finger in the case of emergency.

    9. Re:On engraving... by SeanAhern · · Score: 1

      How? You just told us!

  17. Just make sure it does it's primary jobs by swillden · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Whatever else you might try to make it do, first ensure that your choice accomplishes the basics. It must:

    1. Please her. Hopefully, the idea of the ring pleases her, but she should like the ring itself as well. If she thinks it's ugly, or gaudy, or plain, or... anything other than beautiful, you've failed. Also important (sometimes more important, depending on the woman) is what her family, friends, etc., will think of it. I hate to say it, but "traditional" may be be best bet. It's certainly the safest.
    2. Look like a wedding ring. The main day-to-day function of a wedding ring is to let everyone around her know that she's married and, hence, unavailable. It's of no use if no one recognizes it as what it is.
    3. Be reasonably comfortable. The idea is that she's going to wear this nearly 24x7 for the rest of her life, right? Don't saddle her with some monstrosity that's always getting in the way.

    Oh, and one more suggestion, something I learned the hard way: make sure that it doesn't have any sharp points sticking up. My wife's first ring (the diamond fell out at the beach one day, so she got a new one) had these fairly sharp points on the tips of the prongs around the solitaire. Every time she'd roll over to cuddle up in bed, I'd end up bleeding.

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  18. A secret decoder ring (Java powered!) by psyconaut · · Score: 1
    DalSemi used to make a ring with a Java iButton attached to it, but they don't seem to make it anymore.

    However, you can still buy a Java iButton and embed it into your own ring.

    See here for details:

    http://www.ibutton.com/ibuttons/java.html

    Anyone remember the Java rings that were at JavaOne a few years back? Those were the DalSemi units...

    -psy

  19. Diamonds by Zack · · Score: 5, Informative

    A lot of people really detest the diamond industry. I for one hate DeBeers, even more than I dislike Microsoft. At least Microsoft doesn't use slave labour, murder people, and abuse their workers. It's hard to justify a shiny peice of carbon with an artifically high price on it when you look at all the human rights violations the companies that mine them cause.

    I know there's sociatal pressures that say you need to have a diamond. And why? Because DeBeers invented it!

    http://www.africanfront.com/diamondboycott.php

    There's one link, I'm sure you can find more with a quick google.

  20. Pi by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about you seen how many places of Pi you can engrave on it? It could be really handy if you ever need the 100th decimal place of Pi.

  21. auto-hide by Hellraisr · · Score: 1

    you could make it automatically hide or turn invisible when a nice looking woman walks by you

  22. Utilitarianism by Michael.Forman · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The concept that everything must have a function is indicative that you live in a capitalist society, which assigns value to objects which provide utility. That, which does not provide a function, is valued less than that, which does. I proffer, that a ring can be art for the sake of art without function and still have worth.

    I assume you gravitate towards a utilitarian theme, as you are trying to avoid another vice of the capitalist middle class -- a flagrant display of wealth through the donning of ever-growing mass-produced gold rings with diamonds.

    In an attempt to avoid both, my wife and I purchased our nontraditional rings at a modern-art museum. Thus finding something that didn't require the context of society to be of worth for its utilitarian appeal or it's perceived monetary value.

    Good luck.

    --
    Linux : Mac :: VW : Mercedes
    1. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If I was as uptight and self-superior as you, I'd kill myself.

    2. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sound like he hit a chord!
      you are the middle class diamond wearer, eh?
      if you kill yoursef can i have your ring? :P

    3. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Due to the disdainful superiority complex and self-importance of people like him in our government, the average middle class person does not have enough money to buy a diamond.

    4. Re:Utilitarianism by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      The concept that everything must have a function is indicative that you live in a capitalist society, which assigns value to objects which provide utility.

      Or it could be indicative of the fact that he is a geek, who are famous (or, more likely, infamous) for favoring function over form. Since we're on Slashdot, I'm guessing he's a geek.

    5. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      geeks are products of a utilitarian society. why do you think geeks get paid so much? it's our utility to society (which is mirrored in his desire to seek functionality in his jewelry).

    6. Re:Utilitarianism by dubl-u · · Score: 2, Insightful

      geeks are products of a utilitarian society. why do you think geeks get paid so much? it's our utility to society (which is mirrored in his desire to seek functionality in his jewelry).

      Oh, please. My dad got into programming long before it was fashionable or lucrative. And I started young, spending far too much of my youth in my basement, hacking away, without thought of lucre.

      I do well programming, but for me it's something I can't not to, like a musician and his music. If I had a day job waiting tables, I'd still be writing code at night. And I frequently choose jobs that are interesting over ones that pay better.

      Many of the most geeky people I know are budding scientists who work 60 or 80 hours a week for wages so low that it's probably illegal. But they don't care, because they're doing what they love, and they think of themselves as lucky.

      And many of the most money-driven people I know aren't utilitarian at all. They spend absurd sums of money on fancy cars, fancy clothes, and big houses that they don't use, but only after spending more money decorating the place in shockingly un-useful ways.

      So the notion that socially clueless geeks are the ones most influenced by society doesn't strike me as a very plausible thesis.

    7. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um. I think the underpinnings of transforming nature to serve man (utilitarianism) started before your daddy was born. Try going back to the dawn of western civilization. :P

    8. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Maybe he could buy a ring that would help you all keep on topic.

    9. Re:Utilitarianism by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      Um. I think the underpinnings of transforming nature to serve man (utilitarianism) started before your daddy was born. Try going back to the dawn of western civilization. :P

      It goes back much farther than that, really. Tool use has been a big factor through a lot of human evolution from our great ape ancestors, and it's pretty clear that geekiness has a genetic component. So I'd bet that the geek's utilitarian aesthetic has been around much longer than a few thousand years.

    10. Re:Utilitarianism by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      there's a difference between rudimentary tool making and the social movement known as utilitarianism or capitalism. i believe the social movement can be traced back to Martin Luther and the protestant movement, whereas primitive tool making can traced back to a common ape-human ancestor.

    11. Re:Utilitarianism by dubl-u · · Score: 1

      there's a difference between rudimentary tool making and the social movement known as utilitarianism or capitalism. i believe the social movement can be traced back to Martin Luther and the protestant movement, whereas primitive tool making can traced back to a common ape-human ancestor.

      True, but I don't see how that relates exactly. I'm saying the geek worldview exemplified by the poster, which includes an aesthetic preference for function over decoration, both predates and is not primarily driven by the social influences of capitalism.

    12. Re:Utilitarianism by Planesdragon · · Score: 1

      The concept that everything must have a function is indicative that you live in a capitalist society, which assigns value to objects which provide utility

      Actually, that's backwards. A capitalist "society" is built upon objects that aren't utilitarian at all--the "capital."

      As for the value of art--art is essentially a "value-add" to otherwise less valuable raw materials. The paper an author's novel is written on is worth, by itself, about $3 new and maybe $.50 once it's been used. But the novel could be worth a heck of a lot more--and if the novel becomes big enough, the "original" manuscript would then gain its own measure of value.

      Anyway--capitalist societies assign costs to objects, for whatever reason. A noncapitalist (socialst) society would work on a different medium, and art would be valued in a different way.

  23. ringing by obtuse · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I find sundial rings appealing. You should find several at these sites:

    http://www.villagecraftsmen.com/SUNDIALS2.HTM
    o r a larger picture of the design is here
    http://www.uniquecanes.com/AstroKey1721.html

    Since this is something you'll be spending your life with, you might have one made by a jeweler. In that case, it could be designed for your latitude.

    A cipher key phrase or a circular slide rule of some sort could be put into a ring also. Any slide rule should translate into a circular slide rule, but on the scale of a ring, it would be quite small, and so not terribly easy to use.

    Not to be too much of a sanctimonious PITA, but how does your fiancee feel about this? This is an object that symbolizes your commitment to each other. While I wear a wedding ring that I made, I certainly discussed it with my wife, because this ring is about us.

    You might try to find a phrase worthy of inscribing on the ring, if a plain band seems useless to you. That could increase the personal meaning. You might think of other designs you care about, or something you find unique and beautiful. Don't underestimate the importance of beauty and personal meaning.

    OK, I spent enough time writing this that other people have made the same points. I'll risk redundancy, and say my piece anyway.

    --
    Assembly is the reverse of disassembly.
  24. Secret Map by tenman · · Score: 1

    A ring like this

    Check out the creative use of rings on this page. Pictures of the ring in use near the bottom of the page.

  25. It will be her ring by michaelggreer · · Score: 1

    ...so make sure it reflects her, and not just your, sentiments. The idea that "nothing that is useless can be truly beautiful" is quite specific and quirky. I am a novelist, and I shudder to think that my stories could be "useful" in any way. Some things are intended to be beautiful solely in themselves. Your lover's eyes, for instance, are presumably quite beautiful to you without being handy to any purpose. It is this kind of beauty that the ring is supposed to represent, and not the functional beauty of Java classes, and therefore uselessness is part of the point.

    A diamond, on the other hand, is not necessary, or desirable (I personally draw the consumer line at armies of slaves).

    1. Re:It will be her ring by Lemmeoutada+Collecti · · Score: 1

      Actually, I find her eyes quite useful. They are a great second set to make sure I don't screw my code up. Not to mention they come in a shade of blue that provides a wonderful burst of jealousy from outsider males (and in some cases females), and complements my own. They can also function to watch my back (yep, your back is getting pounded right now by that camper) in certain computer based games. And last, but most definitely not least, they make sure I don't have to lead her around or explain what's going on on the tv or any other number of things facilitated by eyes.

      So yes, her eyes are beautiful and functional. More to the topic, functionality is not always defined merely by conventional function. I have used rings to hold parts while I am building a PC, to act as templates for drawing, to view the eclipse, and a number of other things. Just be creative ( you do slashdot, after all).

      --

      You can have it fast, accurate, or pretty. Pick any 2.
    2. Re:It will be her ring by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A diamond, on the other hand, is not necessary, or desirable (I personally draw the consumer line at armies of slaves).

      Unless you pick one up at a pawn shop. That's where I got my wife's engagement ring. Nice ring, inexpensive and guilt free.

  26. FYI by kinema · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Rings with compartments were very common durring the late 70's and the 80's. They were used for storing cocaine.

  27. heh heh heh by zogger · · Score: 1

    OK, I got a few

    earrings that can have a trebel hook installed at the campsite and be turned into a good shiny fishing lure. Note, I suggest cheap brand metal for these earrings. The evil underwater stump monsters will snag them occassionally, heh.

    A ring that somehow can be used to store your login/passwords. No idea how to do that but seems like a spiffy idea. Watch battery, bluetooth chip, small memory of some kind, something like that.

    Take a clue from the middle east and the way they store family wealth there still,convert some of your soon to be less valuable petrodollars into gold coins, said coins get kludged together into a necklace, so you have some real money for emergency/survival situations. 1/10th ounce coins are available now and would seem to be easy to make a necklace out of them, small enough to not be ridiculous, already broken down into barterable unit size, reasonably attractive as jewelry. The spooks in ww2 and the southeast asian games did a variant on this with issuing their guys necklaces made of gold where the links broke off easily, to be used for bartering their way out of enemy territory should they get shot down, stranded, etc. Gold is still "money" around the world, always a good backup to have some of your wealth stored that way.

  28. Green Lantern! by aleonard · · Score: 1

    Ever thought of becoming a Green Lantern? That has a ring that's both functional AND pretty!

    Anyway, yeah. I agree with a previous poster; with most women, the best "functionality" a ring can probably have is that it cuts glass. Face it; while you may be thinking logically, and want something that costs x thousands of dollars to actually *do* something, love and lust never respect logic. Just get something pretty.

    Oh, wait, there's one more functionality - Whenever she sees it, she thinks of you. And the pricetag. Ye gods, the pricetag...

    --
    "In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -Dostoevsky
    1. Re:Green Lantern! by aleonard · · Score: 1

      Oh, one caveat - If she's as much a geek as I presume you are, then maybe she WOULD appreciate such a functional ring. So, in that case, I guess this is just a request for comments, and then you two will filter the comments. In that case, I have little to add, really... Sorry :P In time, I might say add a small encryption chip, or a tiny tiny ramdrive, so that you can transfer purely private data amongst yourselves. But that's not really useful, yet...

      If that she's a geek too is the case, more power to you - Two geeks getting paired functional rings? Now THAT is something that will tell everyone how much in love you are. Good luck!

      --
      "In the end they will lay their freedom at our feet and say to us, 'Make us your slaves, but feed us.'" -Dostoevsky
    2. Re:Green Lantern! by jeremiahstanley · · Score: 1

      The Green Lantern is a pussy.

  29. The function of a diamond by cgenman · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Jewelry is very functional: it advertises disposable wealth and social status. In that sense it serves as a piece of a larger key to open doors in circles you may not otherwise have access to... Even things you may not expect like recieving bank loans are easier if you have properly announced status. However, if your ring is too otherwise functional, it ceases to advertise either wealth or location in social heirarchy.

    Jewelry also serves as a store of value... if anything happens she can sell the ring and live for a month. On the finger at all times is a very convienient location for a rainy day fund, especially if you have to leave suddenly with nothing but the clothes on your back and your children.

  30. Don't be ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ... such a feckin freak. If your girlfriend is taking your obsession in stride she's a keeper. But I wonder if you're using up all that good will now --- save it for when you'll need to make serious decisions and compromises. To paraphrase Stein, a ring is a ring is a ring. So just buy one that fits well and looks nice and stop being a freak.

  31. waytoomuchcoffee? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    More like waytoolittlebrains.

  32. You're missing the point by mpweasel · · Score: 1

    Go with a diamond. It's a beautiful gesture of love to get her something that's so expensive yet so completely useless to you. It will always remind her of that, every time she looks at it. As for you, as other people said, your wedding band will communicate as a symbol that you're taken. It will also remind you of your love and commitment to her. Why would you want it to change channels on your TV, whatever else? You can get a remote on your watch or Palm. Keep it simple. The symbolism is enough function. Anything extra only reduces its true meaning.

    Come on, seriously? Jewelry that DOES something? The functions are adornment and symbolism.

    -- Recently married geek, who thought about this too, but realized that it the ring already has value and meaning in itself.

  33. Not many suggestions so far... by biglig2 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    ... in fact I'm afraid that if I put forward a practical idea I might be modded down as on topic.

    Still, I have no idea if this is possible, but would it be possible to make two rings that can sense when they are near each other and change in some way? Let see now, transmitter, reciever, power source (tiny solar cell?) indicator (led? heating element? not a noice or a vibration otherwise it'll drive you mad being together) - it might be just do-able. The japanese are fond of those badges that do this.

    Problem will be size of course, so perhaps this idea is not practicable, unless you both have big hands. ;-)

    OK, then, perhaps you need something mechanical. Hmm. Perhaps something that you get when you fit both rings together? A key, perhaps?

    Best suggestion so far is the guy with his SO's name engraved on one of those cool titanium rings. Sequence her DNA and write that on it!

    --
    ~~~~~ BigLig2? You mean there's another one of me?
    1. Re:Not many suggestions so far... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not sure how the wife would feel about that...though it would be truly useful.

      <ring indicates proximity of wife>
      To mistress: "Oh shit...she's home early! Go hide in the closet!"

    2. Re:Not many suggestions so far... by TFloore · · Score: 1

      And don't forget the most important requirement for this little toy...

      Must continue to work for as long as you want the marriage to last.

      This argues strongly for something where the utility is what it is, rather than what it does.

      A "does" will wear out, mechanical failure, chemical breakdown, too many cosmic ray strikes, whatever. A "is" will last as long as the ring is in one piece.

      --
      This is my sig. There are many like it but this one is... Oops. Frank, I've got your sig again! Where's mine?
    3. Re:Not many suggestions so far... by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      You could each wear a 4 lbs. chunk of pu-239...when you get close there will be a pretty blue glow.

  34. A ring can double as a great sex toy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


    Get one of the really knobby rings with smooth edges and you will always be able to satisfy her. It would have real and symbolic meaning for your relationship.

  35. it IS functionally useful by Ender+Ryan · · Score: 1
    A wedding ring IS functionally useful. It lets people know you are married. This is socially useful in many ways. First, people don't come on to you. They may flirt, but most people recognize the boundaries. Second, especially if you're a geek, people will see that you can "get a woman", and people will know that you are "experienced".

    It's also great for getting it caught on things and tearing your finger off! :)

    --
    Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chicken - Tyler Durden
    1. Re:it IS functionally useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, people don't come on to you.

      Uhhh, you DO know this is slashdot, don't you. A ring isn't necessary here.

  36. microchip security by MarvinMouse · · Score: 1

    Install a microchip radio transmitter into a ring with a large key in it, or maybe just a bit of disk space, or a msg or something to that effect.

    Then you can use it as a key for anything digital, or a micro storage device.

    Personally I think that would really be cool to get, but then I am just a geek.

    --
    ~ kjrose
  37. When I got married... by MrIcee · · Score: 4, Interesting
    ...my wife and I wanted our rings to be something different and special. We were just out of college and pretty poor so we didn't have a lot of money to spend.

    We found a local jewler and asked if he could fashion two gold rings in the shape of a mobius strip (a one sided one edged object). We showed him, out of paper, what a mobius strip was and what it could do. A month later, and for a total cost of $90 (in the 80's) we had two rings with a half twist. To make the rings comfortable and keep the twist in a certain place he had slightly flattened the underside of the ring so that it wouldn't ride around on our fingers. (for those interested, to make a one sided one edged solid gold object he created the twist in a mold and then poured the gold into the mold.)

    I always liked the mobius strip rings... there is certainly symbolism in them (no 2 sides, but 1 side... 2 people working together as 1, etc...). Nobody else had anything like them and they were quite attractive.

    Aloha Nui Loa for your upcoming wedding - hope to see you honeymoon here on the active volcano in Hawaii.

    1. Re:When I got married... by Chris+Pimlott · · Score: 1

      I've always been interested in Moebius strips and I have, in my idle moments, thought of the same thing. Do you possibly have any pictures of how they turned out>

    2. Re:When I got married... by ArsonPerBuilding · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Gonna be redundant, as previous reply pointed out; do you have pictures of how the rings turned out? The design seems very facsinating and I would love to see the end result.

      --
      1 tequila 2 tequila 3 tequila floor
  38. Not only... by mcgroarty · · Score: 0, Offtopic
    Not only can a napkin ring be used as a napkin holder, but it's also a good size for a midget needing a cock ring!

    Please mod me down. I never get that done anymore.

  39. Upgrading? by jbarr · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Don't forget that any technology that you put into the ring will probably become obsolete within a few years, so unless you are specifically planning on either upgrading the ring or upgrading your wife, I recommend going the traditional route.

    What may seem novel or cool today will probably not seem so novel or cool 20 years from now. Remember that the ring is a symbol of your marriage. What ring you select should reflect what you value in your marriage and your spouse.

    --
    My mom always said, "Jim, you're 1 in a million." Given the current population, there are 7000 of me. God help us all!
  40. Real Women??? by jasonrocks · · Score: 1

    Real women don't want a diamind:


    Real women? Where have you found someone who doesn't want a diamond? I'd say you're out of the loop. Stop reading /. and go on a date. I don't know ANY woman who wouldn't want a diamond.


    Void
    --

    void
    1. Re:Real Women??? by Neck_of_the_Woods · · Score: 4, Insightful

      really? I have one that would rather have a trip to hawaii, surf for 10 days straight, put the little silver band around her finger and grin like a school girl hooped up on sugar.

      You see bud, it is not about the diamond. It is about knowing your girl. Some women want the diamond to show it off, others want a basic ring with a huge ass story behind it that every time someone asks her why she does not have a diamond she launches into her month long surf trip around the pacific.

      I have that girl, and I am going to keep her. You can have the one that wants the diamond.

      --
      Neck_of_the_Woods
      #/usr/local/surf/glassy/overhead
    2. Re:Real Women??? by RevAaron · · Score: 1

      My girl would rather have many things more than an expensive and gaudy diamond. We will be using an heirloom ring (yes, with diamonds), and spending the money on something we can enjoy a good deal more. While rare, there are women who aren't just interested in shiny junk.

      --

      Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
    3. Re:Real Women??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but you can't pawn the memories of the trip to the Pacific when everything goes wrong.

    4. Re:Real Women??? by Deagol · · Score: 4, Informative
      My wife told me that if I ever bought her gold or diamonds, she'd leave me. :) We both don't care for gold, and both traditionally wore silver before we ever met. She likes garnets, though.

      We didn't do the engagement ring thing, and we bought 2 beautiful silver rings for our wedding bands. Total cost with shipping was just shy of $100. We're both proud of the cheapness factor, as we know the price of precious metals/stones is such a sham. Though, you'd be amazed at how many women turned their noses up at the rings. She doesn't care (that's my girl!) and neither to I. The rings are beautiful and we both love them, and that's all that really matters.

      I got this ring, the knots symbolic of my science/math/mechanical nature. I'm the organized one in the pair; I bring order to the chaos. In turn, she has this ring, the ivy symbolic of her being the more "wild" of the two of us. She gets me out into the sun and has a better sense of adventure. We're a perfect match, and over the years our personalities have melded a bit, which goes well with silver (a highly malleable metal). I'm thinking for our 10th anniversary, we might get a new set of rings, but with both having the ivy and knots intertwined (that is, if the owner of this site will custom make them). We may even try to get them in platinum or tungsten, much more sturdy metals.

      We've been married 5.5 years and are closer than ever.

      Yeah, it's all symbolic, and has no utility value. But my going on about this is simply to illustrate that one can ditch the status quo and have much more meaningful symbolism than "Look! he spent 2 month's salary on this boring ring of gold with a fleck of clear rock on it!"

      I encourage everyone to browse the site linked above: metalsmiths.com. The guy has rings made of meteorite that I'd like to get -- too cool! His work is truly unique.

      My only suggestion for a practical ring would be either a sun dial type of ring (calibrated for your latitude, of course) or a very simple, solid and heavy ring of platinum which you could hawk if you ever got into a real jam. About the latter suggestion... I've ready to many "urban survival" threads in misc.survival. ;-)

    5. Re:Real Women??? by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      I'm getting married in less than a year. My fiancee was very specific about not wanting a diamond. Her mother also did not want a diamond in her engagement ring when she got married. I think the problem is that people don't ask what the woman wants before they buy a ring, they just take a multi-thousand dollar chance and listen to the DeBeers commercials. Ask her to marry you before you buy the ring. You'll get to have fun ring shopping together, and you might be surprised what she'll pick.

      BTW, we bought unset stones and had a setting made. I spent WAY less than I was planning on spending. She's happier with it than she could have possibly been had I chosen the ring without her, and I spent the money I saved on power tools and computer equipment :)

    6. Re:Real Women??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd rather have the computer equipment (yes, I am a woman)

    7. Re:Real Women??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      too bad your bitch also has a huge ass to go wither her huge ass story.

      Thanks for keeping her, though. Every other guy out herer thanks you

    8. Re:Real Women??? by shepmaster · · Score: 1

      On a side note, I had custom made a gold, copper and silver ring with a piece of meteorite as the stone for my girlfriend. Thankfully, it was a gift from a artist friend of mine, but I'm told the value would have been $1000+ (US).

      Of course, there is a sad ending to the story, as she later dumped me. But I still have the ring! Ha.

    9. Re:Real Women??? by intermodal · · Score: 1

      I am in the exact same thing as you, man. Silver, no stones, simple design. Why? we dont like gold or stones. Plus they are inflated to ridiculously disproportionate prices. No engagement rings, silver wedding bands. Cost under fifty bucks for both and we love the way they look. Silver has the great advantage of having a dark tarnish that emphasizes the raised designs, which is also nice.

      --
      In SOVIET RUSSIA... erm...NSA AMERICA, the Internet logs onto YOU!
  41. IT has no value. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Youll be lucky to get 1/10 of what you paid for it. GOld jewelery alwasy sells at a little bit above melt value, and noone buys diamonds for anywhere close to what they sell them for. This has been repeately documented, but hasnt sunk into the brains of the populaion yet. Want resale value? Buy gold, silver bars and coins.

    --
    All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
    1. Re:IT has no value. by shylock0 · · Score: 2, Insightful
      noone buys diamonds for anywhere close to what they sell them for. This has been repeately documented, but hasnt sunk into the brains of the populaion yet.

      This part of the parent post is entirely false. As a matter of fact, it highlights the most common misconception about diamonds.

      Within the United States, you can buy a diamond for exactly what you can sell it for, no more, no less (otherwise, you couldn't buy and sell diamonds on eBay, for being able to buy something on eBay is defined as being able to buy it for what you can sell it for). If you buy a raw diamond for anything more than 1%-2% more than you can sell it for, you are being ripped off. Indeed, it is THAT fact which "hasn't sunk into the brains of the population yet". Diamonds are one of the most fungible goods known to mankind, even more fungible than gold (because the value of gold fluctuates widely and regularly, but the value of diamonds typically do not).

      However, finished jewelry is different. A Diamond + A setting will ALWAYS cost more than the sum of the parts. If you're looking to buy a diamond ring, the best thing to do is to buy a diamond wholesale and take it to a jeweler to have a setting custom-made. Alternatively, sites such as BlueNile will allow you to buy a diamond and then have a setting made (although you will pay more than it is worth, you will not get as ripped off as with pre-finished jewelry.)

      I first became interested in diamonds several years ago (when traveling to Russia and then Brazil) and have taken several courses in identifying and appraising diamonds from different Gem Labs in the US and overseas. One of the first things they taught us was the misconception in the parent post, and how to exploit it.

      --
      Statistically speaking, there's a 99.998% chance that my IQ is higher than yours. Get over it.
  42. Scribe tool by qengho · · Score: 4, Funny

    A diamond ring has the inherent functionality of being able to score glass. With a little practice, she can become adept at permanent warchalking on the windows of businesses with poor wi-fi security.

  43. Ring by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

    A ring is useful, it tells other guys to bug off or the guy who gave her the ring will come a calling.

    Don't you look at a ladies hand, before you start hitting on her?

    1. Re:Ring by Mononoke · · Score: 0, Flamebait
      A ring is useful, it tells other guys to bug off or the guy who gave her the ring will come a calling.

      Don't you look at a ladies hand, before you start hitting on her?

      Yes. It means if we do spend the night together, she'll be out of the way by morning.

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      NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local
    2. Re:Ring by Quill_28 · · Score: 1

      You may be trying to be funny, but I find little humor in guys that think that way.

    3. Re:Ring by Mononoke · · Score: 1
      You may be trying to be funny, but I find little humor in guys that think that way.
      That's ok, I find very little of value in gals that don't possess a sense of humor.

      Women think that way too, BTW.

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      NetInfo connection failed for server 127.0.0.1/local
  44. Signet Ring by Hadlock · · Score: 1

    have some soft wax for her to carry around, stick a dab on whatever she needs to sign, stick her signet ring in it, leaves an impression of her initials, and poof, you have a legally binding contract. romans did this for nearly a thousand years, maybe more.

    --
    moox. for a new generation.
  45. Ask McGuyver by Numeric · · Score: 1

    Jewerly does not have a natural mechanical function otherwise it would be a tool. However I believe McGuyver could build a high powered "laser beam" with a diamond.

    --
    -- ladies and gentlemen we are floating in space!
  46. I hope you got a real geeky one by anthony_dipierro · · Score: 3, Funny

    I have all sorts of high concepts about what this should represent and I keep coming back to the thought 'nothing which is useless can be truly beautiful'.

    Just don't tell you fiance this when you have her in bed. She might start asking what her "use" is.

    1. Re:I hope you got a real geeky one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fiancee knows what her "use" is: I enjoy her company, I feel safe with her, and her companionship boosts my morale.

  47. Get her the diamond, AND by DuckDuckBOOM! · · Score: 1

    have your PGP sigs laser-engraved into it. When you give her the ring, include a jeweler's loupe on a matching necklace.

    --
    Life is like surrealism: if you have to have it explained to you, you can't afford it.
  48. Money storeage: Diamonds have no resale value by SomethingOrOther · · Score: 2, Informative

    if anything happens she can sell the ring and live for a month

    Very wrong unfortunately.
    Diamonds have absoulutely no resale value worth speeking of. Have a look at this slashdot story
    Yes a diamond could be used as a bribe, but you certainly can't live for a month on one.

    Gold might be slightly better. Most jewlers will readily give money for 'scrap gold'. Althouh most survivalists will tell you how useless gold Kruger rands /soverigns etc are. Most banks wont accept them and jewlers will often just give 'scrap gold' value.

    If you want jewlry as an emergency money source, try a necklace made of gold segments (or heavy gold chain) The segments can be broken off individually and sold / used for bribes.

    --
    Anyone quoted by a reporter knows how little they understand
    Don't believe what you read is the truth.
    1. Re:Money storeage: Diamonds have no resale value by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tell that to all the pawn shops that make money reselling this stuff and the thieves that supply them. The main reason that diamonds aren't a good investment for most consumers is due to the ridiculous markup that most jewelry stores have.

    2. Re:Money storeage: Diamonds have no resale value by cgenman · · Score: 1

      Very true, I meant "used to," though I didn't make that clear.

      Which begs the question, why not buy used?

      -C

  49. Brass Knuckles: Beautiful and Functional by monopole · · Score: 2

    Brass Knuckles: Beautiful and Functional yet Inexpensive
    Four times the rings, five times the impact

  50. i have an idea... by tongue · · Score: 1

    How about a secret decoder ring? if you make the band in two parts--outer and inner, or something like that--which are movable relative to each other, so the ring can twist or something like that, with notches representing letters or some such, you've got your very own (or her very own, anyway) Lil' Orphan Annie secret decoder!

    you could also use the engagement ring as one half of the decoder and the band as the other.

  51. Call me sentimental by rf0 · · Score: 1

    But surely the wedding ring is to show love for each other and not just another gadget. Why not just enjoy something that is beautiful but not necessarily useful

    Rus

  52. How to make rings useful? by hobbestcat · · Score: 1

    Engrave your Slashdot Username and Password on the inside. Then you'll never forget.

  53. They have a use!! by ddriver · · Score: 1

    They make the woman you intend to spend the rest of your life with HAPPY! Isn't that usefull enough?

    If you can come up with a better use for anything in the world let me know.

    --
    I found my inner child, then I got caught abusing it...
  54. For you: Java Ring by Isao · · Score: 1
    For her: Diamond. End of discussion. Wrap it with some nice contrasting stones (I liked amethyst).

    Now for you, the Java Ring might be just what you're after. Sold by MRI, you can get ones that store, encrypt or compute. It's FIPS-140-1 certified, 134K of SRAM, zeroizes on tampering. Here is the fact sheet.

    Of course, you can get a nice plain wedding band, and ask her to get you the Java Ring for the other hand. Your call.

  55. Living Bio-Jewelry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Required parts:

    1 12-volt auto battery
    1 flasher (turn signal) relay
    14-gauge cable
    1 gold chain
    1 pig's heart, recently removed

    String the cable decoratively through the gold chain, leaving all four leads exposed. Attach the pig's heart at the bottom of the chain using any method desired, placing the exposed leads on opposite ends. Attach the relay to the hidden set of leads, after which you must attach the battery. Watch the amazed and delighted reactions when your family sees the heart beating naturally.

  56. Well Duh! by rthille · · Score: 1


    The Java Powered iButton ring of course!

    http://www.iowatelecom.net/~njohnsn/thejava1.htm

    (I was going to say that a regular ring is useful, it's the chain that your wife uses to enslave you, but my wife hit me when I said that... :-)

    --
    Awesome furniture, accessories and cabinetry in Santa Rosa, CA: http://humanity-home.com/
  57. Advice from a real woman ... by Miss_Me0w · · Score: 1
    If you want to survive your marriage start it off correctly - Do as she says, and get whatever she wants.

    --
    "Hell is other people ..." ~ Sartre
  58. your definition of beauty.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    nothing which is useless can be truly beautiful

    That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Ignoring the fact that beauty itself makes something useful (ever owned a nice CD or a painting?), how can you possibly say that the item you symbolically profess your eternal love with is USELESS??

    Dear wife: I think it's much more important to give you this plastic decoder ring than a beautiful diamond. Because it's USEFUL! The diamond is USELESS! And by the way, if you don't cook and clean you're USELESS TOO!! Wait? Why are you crying? Come back!

    Seriously, give her the rock like everybody else does, it's silly but that's what you do. And then get her a cool gadget for her birthday.

  59. Holographic Ring by monopole · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Embossed Holograms (the type that appear in credit cards) are produced by making a nickel shim from the original hologram (in photoresist) via electroplating Gold is sputtered on the resist and nickel is electroplated. If gold is built up instead a shim with the relief structure could be generated and incorporated into a gold ring. With a thin layer of protective material (perhaps a diamond CVD film) the ring could be extremely durable. A 3d image could be generated or a pattern that would be projected by a laser pointer. Very unique.

  60. Titanium Rings by Breakerofthings · · Score: 1

    I replaced my original (white gold) wedding band with a Ti one; It is very functional; It will save my hand if I ever get a door/etc slammed on it.
    I know that this is so because it worked in the Abyss :) Maybe you could make the ring out of a very powerful magnet; then you could erase floppies with a wave of your hand ;)
    or have it contain many many loops of copper wire, with 2 exposed "terminals"; just hook it up to a power source, and you have an electromagnet!

    On a serious note, this discussion has me thinking; I would love to have my pgp key in my band; that is the most secure place I can imagine having it, and still be able to discard it if I want.

    If one were really clever, they would make the ring with a little tiny processor in it, able to verify signiatures as well ...

    1. Re:Titanium Rings by Breakerofthings · · Score: 1

      oops, should have previewed it, then I would have known I needed another <\b> in there ...

    2. Re:Titanium Rings by RevAaron · · Score: 1

      In the Abyss, I also saw an underwater city of non-human intelligent life. We should get a probe down there- that must be real too!

      How would you discard the PGP key in your ring? toss it in the garbage? It'd be pretty hard to actually destroy if it were made out of Ti with the kind of resources you have at your place.

      --

      Working toward a usable PDA environment in the spirit of Newton OS: Dynapad
    3. Re:Titanium Rings by Breakerofthings · · Score: 1

      sarcasm

      How to discard it?
      Well, I would just throw it away, after erasing my key.
      How would I erase my key, you ask?
      Microwave it.
      Give it 120 VAC.

      I envision the ring as having a band with a "U"-like cross section, with the key stored in memory, like SDRAM, FLASH, or an EEPROM type of arrangement; the guts of which would live in the channel of the "U" ... exposed, but slightly recessed, it would be a highlight or accent or whatever ...
      Then you could easily insulate the contacts you would need to talk to it from the ring, and you could easily dig the memory out with an ice pick (or other tool of your choice) and smash it into little bits.

      My comment about it being easily discarded was admittedly unclear; easily was meant to be relative to having it embedded under my skin, etc.

  61. Web server by pjwhite · · Score: 1

    Put a GPS and a 802.11 web server in the rings. That way each of you can keep track of where the other one is at all times. (At least as long as you stay close to a Starbucks).

  62. Some ideas... by Christ-on-a-bike · · Score: 2, Funny
    I'm going to buck the trend of bitching about your request, and instead offer some ideas for what to actually incorporate in the ring.

    How about...

    1. A flat part with a minute spirit level
    2. A rad-counter (would have to contain a replaceable detector material)
    3. A diamond - use to scratch glass, cars etc ;)
    4. A coil of dental floss
    5. An engraved protractor
    6. A Cap'n Crunch decoder ring (the ring as 2+ moving parts)
    7. (Tricky) make the ring resonate at an interesting frequency
    8. (Old school) a signet ring
    9. (Simple) marked edges - the ring can be flipped like a coin to make decisions
    10. A tiny, hence probably useless, circular slide rule (link)
    11. Neodymium!
    12. An induction coil - for when she needs to make a quick electromagnet
    13. (Cute, but not useful yet) a strand of your DNA - this way she can clone you
    14. (Awful) an engraved copy of your pre-nuptial agreement ;)
    How geeky is this woman exactly?
    1. Re:Some ideas... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      http://patimg1.uspto.gov/.piw?Docid=D0303915&homeu rl=http%3A%2F%2Fpatft.uspto.gov%2Fnetacgi%2Fnph-Pa rser%3FSect1%3DPTO2%2526Sect2%3DHITOFF%2526p%3D1%2 526u%3D%2Fnetahtml%2Fsearch-adv.htm%2526r%3D7%2526 f%3DG%2526l%3D50%2526d%3Dptxt%2526S1%3D'D303915'%2 526OS%3D%252522D303915%252522%2526RS%3D%252522D303 915%252522&PageNum=&Rtype=&SectionNum=&idkey=B9A0B 62E7689

      U.S. Patent number D303915 (can be viewed
      through the link above) is a combination
      can opener ring. I got my wife one from
      an airline flight attendent.

      Hope the marriage lasts as long as the thread ;-)

  63. a use for the ring I wear by MerlynEmrys67 · · Score: 1
    Well you can always use it as a beer bottle openner. That is the best use for my ring...

    Who knows, the gift that keeps on giving... Honey can you open my beer for me after you get it ?

    --
    I have mod points and I am not afraid to use them
  64. To make it useful... by xWeston · · Score: 1

    you could sell it and buy something for less money, using the extra for computer stuff!

  65. Golomb Rulers by Tom7 · · Score: 1


    A friend of mine has a necklace marked as a Golomb ruler. This is not really "useful" (except in the sense that if you were stuck somewhere and really needed a ruler, this is the optimally short piece of equipment to use), but it is a neat mathematical curiosity.

    http://www.distributed.net/ogr/

  66. Custom titanium jewelry... by StormForge · · Score: 0

    I had a *really* good experience with these guys: www.dcjdirect.com You can give them a good idea of what you want and they'll do the rest -- and they're fast, efficient and reasonably priced. I sent them some ideas by email -- we went back and forth on it a few times, and then they made it in about 4 days! Really pretty work too. They also have some neat titanium stuff pre-made. -Bill

  67. On a slightly OT note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ** Try to argue that M$ is other than absolute evil or that Linux could be improved here, and you'll see what I mean :-)

    I would argue that most of /. readership has exactly the opposite view of things.

  68. Puzzle rings by moc.tfosorcimgllib · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you want something cool, look at getting her a puzzle engagement ring. Those things are cool AND fun.

    1. Re:Puzzle rings by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you get her a puzzle ring, do two things:

      1) Know how to solve it before you give it to her.
      2) Expect her to get VERY upset when she can't solve the puzzle and put it back on her finger.

      Spoken from experience...

      Oh yeah, and the even-number rings are easier to solve than the odd-number rings.

  69. Circular slide-rule by FunnyPolynomial · · Score: 1

    Either give her two rings, or make a composite double ring and have them engraved with the appropriate log scale numbers. Theoretically, you'd have a teeny-tiny slide rule! Well, OK, it might not actually be practical, but it would look pretty cool!

    --
    // todo: implement sig
  70. Keys are Beautiful Jewelry by 4of12 · · Score: 1

    Other posters have already suggested that the piece of jewelry be used to store keys for cryptographic purposes. But I have to ask, why use a cumbersome piece of jewelry for that?

    I've often thought that mechanical locks and keys have some intrinsic beauty, and they are functional, not requiring electricity, etc.

    So why not commission a locksmith to make your and yours a special houselock with exceptionally beautiful keys? Or, if you prefer, car keys?

    BTW, about this "must be functional" fetish. Take a piece of advice: don't go compliment your spouse with such gems of flattery as

    "Darling, you look especially functional and utilititarian tonight!"
    --
    "Provided by the management for your protection."
    1. Re:Keys are Beautiful Jewelry by unitron · · Score: 1
      "Darling, you look especially functional and utilititarian tonight!"

      Hey you might get lucky with SevenOfNine or the Vulcan chick on Enterprise!

      --

      I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.

  71. Check with your family by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 1

    There are many legitimate comments here regarding Diamonds and human rights.

    If you are not interested in getting a diamond from DeBeers or some terrorist organization, start asking family members.

    Especially grandparents who got screwed by banks during the depression, or who "ran a business" during the prohibition.

    I know several different couples who each got engaged, got the engagement ring, had lunch with the family, grandparents, godparents, etc. and came back with several old pieces of jewlery and some diamonds. They never asked, some of the family memebers were holding onto the jewlery for a special occasion, and when the engagement was announced, the jewlery came out of the woodwork. They then took the diamonds and incorporated them into their special-made ring.

    Note: These diamonds weren't spectaular, high value diamonds. They were average grade. But I'd take have a low-end diamond given to me by my grandmother over a high-end diamond from a DeBeers' sales clerk any day. Wedding rings are about sentiment and family, not about value.

    --
    "Can of worms? The can is open... the worms are everywhere."
  72. The caves .... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 2, Insightful

    .... have an use, 15000 years ago, the paintings also.

    Arts in any era fullfill many very important social functions.

    Diamonds do, but the horrifying background of how that trade works should put off all but the most indecent people.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  73. Diamonds.... by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    ... what part of "immoral trade" can't you understand?

    OK, second hand or antique, but not new. Please.

    --
    IANAL but write like a drunk one.
  74. 4) Make sure it complies with hobby requirements by mckwant · · Score: 1

    May not be an issue for yours, but mine rides horses, so anything that wasn't completely streamlined runs the risk of getting stuck in a rein, under a saddleblanket, etc.

    Go custom, based around some personal story of hers, preferably about a ring she never got. I got my wife a horseshoe nail ring denied to her by her Mom when she was 12.

    If it works for her, it'll be just fine for you . Total cost, including small diamond ~= $400, IIRC.

    --
    ceci n'est pas un sig.
  75. It is functional by KurdtX · · Score: 1

    I like the ruler idea, but I have something a bit more subtle in mind.

    Make it a biometric identifcation device that functions by gauging the size of her ring finger. That way you can tell if someone is trying to impersonate your wife, as while you could use cosmetic surgery to make someone look like your wife, I doubt they'd think about changing her finger size. Sort of like Cinderella's slipper, it will only fit her. After all, she is your princess now, isn't she?

    --

    Kurdt
    I'm not anti-social. Just pro-technology.
  76. Go antique... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My spouse's wedding ring is faced with alternating inset emeralds and diamonds. The gems were purchased at auction (go to diamond auctions IN THE RAIN not when the weather is nice) so nobody was murdered or oppressed in order to supply them to us, and our money did not go (directly, at least) to murderers or oppressors. A local artisan friend set the stones into a custom gold band.

    My ring is a 1901 woman's wedding band resized to fit me; soft, matte-finished 18-K red gold about a quarter of an inch wide and very very thick.

    Their functions are beauty and portable wealth.

    Their resale value is higher than what I paid for them, which is not true of most such things.

  77. Use a RFID tag by CTalkobt · · Score: 1

    you know - the RFID tag that can be detected and is very small and tiny - put it near a RF emitter and it sends out an ID code.

    Rig that up to your computer room entrance. Then when she walks near it - it will automatically lock the door or unlock it depending on the mode that you've got it in: PORN or NO-PORN.

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  78. Diamonds by DaphneDiane · · Score: 1

    Have some of us 'g33ky' girls don't want diamonds.

    I know I've pretty much decided that I will dump anyone that tries to give me a diamond. If they don't know my opinion on them by that point, then how can they know really know me.

    Yea, yea it might hard to explain to the family... but if people want to find fault they will. Now what I think would be really sweat would be a ring with a holographic crystal.

  79. Get a Life! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get your head out of the computers and dumb movies and get on with living a life. Save your fantasies and neurotic attempts to find deep meanings in ordinary things for your dreams... or nightmares.

  80. Laser targetting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This same type of communication has been acheived by other cultures in different forms, eg a red dot on the forehead...

    I read this post just after the James Bond / Laser one above, put two and two together, and got 'what cultures spend all day point rifles at each other after getting married?'

  81. Jeqwelery are ego protesis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When ppl had no mirrors they used the surface of water. Their images were blurry and ugly... So they felt the need to make themselves precious.. with.. JEWELERY... :) .. so they could fell pretty again.. but when the first mirrors appeared they forgot about the reasons why they invented these little metal attachments to their bodies..

    Today I browser porn and on every damn picture i see jewelery.. They have even Jewelery in their pussies and assholes...

    The whole Jewelery thing is FUBAR!!!! and expensive... :)))

  82. Bluetooth enabled rings! by CaptCanuk · · Score: 1

    Imagine bluetooth enabled rings with unique ID's.
    When you get within range of each other, the wedding march plays from a built in (extremely small speaker). Or at least "our" song.... and I'm hoping "our" song isn't the Theme to Star Wars or something.

    Or for the polygamist, a ring with an LCD and bluetooth enabled which tells you the names of all the wives within range. It's probably a faux pas to call Lurleen Brandine or vice versa.

    --
    ---- The geek shall inherit the Earth.
  83. Ring ROM by callydrias · · Score: 1

    My wedding ring had our anniversary date inscribed on it. Believe me, that ring turned out to be VERY functional!

  84. that's the whole point by g4dget · · Score: 1

    The diamond ring is the human male's antlers. It's there to complete the mating ritual and keep the mate interested. It's easily recognizable, it demonstrates the necessary ability on the part of the male to provide for the young and defend territory, it's completely useless, it requires a vast investment of resources to purchase, and it is harmful to other members of the species. Many of those features happen to be implemented by the diamond cartel, but that makes little difference to its purpose. And, if you ask me, compared to antlers, it's a lot less of a nuisance.

  85. Re: The caves at Lascaux by Amroarer · · Score: 1

    I agree are amazing, but the chances that you'll ever get to see them are pretty slim. (Unless you're an academic.)

    The caves are closed to the public to prevent humidity and bacteria from destroying the fragile paintings. However, Lascaux II, a milimetre-accurate replica, is open nearby. And it's every bit as awesome.

    While the main theme is animal (and the Bulls' Chamber is incredible), there's also an astronomy element which might appeal more to geeks. This link is a BBC site explaining how maps of various constellations are visible in the paintings on the roof of the Bulls's Chamber - and painted 16,500 years ago!

  86. Checking the /. archives by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    A few months ago there was an Ask Slashdot covering alternatives to diamonds, asked by someone knowledgeable about the problems that diamonds have. (De Beers monopoly, slavery, etc.)

    There were a lot of interesting suggestions. Jewelry-wise, if you want functionality, a diamond is the way to go (If you don't like DeBeers, go synthetic.) Hardest substance on earth, could come in handy... I can't think of much that's as durable and lasting as a diamond and small enough to be jewelry.

    Others suggested going simple with the jewelry. Maybe just get her a cheap silver band, but at the same time hand her the keys to a nice new car... (Does she like convertibles? If yes, does she have one? If no, there's your gift idea.)

    --
    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  87. New can be OK too. by Andy+Dodd · · Score: 1

    Don't forget synthetics.

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    retrorocket.o not found, launch anyway?
  88. Thank you. by Unknown+Poltroon · · Score: 1

    Id mod you up if i could.

    --
    All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
  89. Not *exactly* functional, but.. by dnxthx · · Score: 1

    What about a puzzle ring? I got my fiancee an engagement ring from this guy.

  90. So poor people get to be unemployed? by candylilacs · · Score: 1

    People work in the diamond industry for money. Without a job their families or themselves starve.

    So, not buying diamonds does not hurt the industry so much as it does the individual worker. And their $5 a day is a lot compared to the rest of the continent which makes about $15 per month.

    It's all relative.

    c.

  91. Surprise! Not all women are the same! by candylilacs · · Score: 1

    Just because a woman would like jewelry doesn't make her a heathen or a greedy slob. Quit demonizing women when you would easily spend $4,000 on computer equipment.

    Human slavery exists in Africa and it has nothing to do with diamond mines. In almost every continent young girls as young as six years old are sold into prostitution. Neighboring tribes capture people or conquer a people and sell them into real slavery, with no wages, in Northern Africa.

    If you are attempting to be politically aware, why not protest the involvement of the World Bank or International Monetary Fund, of which the U.S. is the majority, which enslaves developing nation with high-interest loans that only causes crushing debt....the debt that makes it impossible to build infrastructure, schools or services for its people.

    It would be nice if naysayers on Slashdot would say no to that kind of enslavement rather than complainign about having to buy a jewel for their lover and best friend on some kind of misguided attempt at social awareness.

    good luck,
    c.

  92. Does it have to be a ring? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Tongue stud. 'nuff said.

  93. Re:Wedding Rings are /useful/ by jea325 · · Score: 1

    i must be the only dork who still performs a manual spell-check. *agreed on symbolism/communication factor. *& from original: "I have all sorts of high concepts about what this should represent and I keep coming back to the thought 'nothing which is useless can be truly beautiful'." ...but what does /she/ want?

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    ---------- "it's a prison"
  94. The Functional Jewelry debate... by Lili19 · · Score: 1

    Some have posted comments about not wanting to buy diamonds as it often supports slave and child labor, murder, corrupt governments, etc. There is a new market for "conflict-free" or "socially aware" diamonds. The diamond industry is working to take steps to keep black market diamonds from entering the market. Right now, any diamonds that are mined and cut in Canada are very popular because, they do not come from conflict areas. There's quite a few different companies that one can buy a "socially aware" diamond from, which includes a guarantee to be conflict free. In the northwest, they can be bought from Ben Bridge Jewelers, who sell diamonds from a conflict free Canadian company called "Ikuma". As far as functional... An Italian jewelry designer recently released a piece called "Love Signs". Here's the description: "The creation consists of a highly polished yellow gold disk pendant on a thin lariat, the other end of which consists of a diamond-studded stylus. One can close the lariat with the stylus, but not before the "giver" of the product writes his or her own inscription on the pendant using the diamond as a tool." Perhaps not ideal for an engagement, as it isn't a ring, but VOILA! A necklace and a diamond pen in one! (It's cool looking, too.) The company that designed this piece is called "Nanis" and can be contacted at: Italian Jewelry Guild 8383 Wilshire Boulevard Suite 518 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 My opinion is similar to what many others have already posted. Something does not have to be useful in order to be beautiful. On an evolutionary note: the aspect of art and making objects which are pleasing to look at is a large part of what seperates humans from other animals. Part of the anthropological definition of an advanced society is that they create objects of beauty that have no functional use or purpose. The existence of jewelry-like objects is tesimony to how advanced a culture is. They have the brains and tool-making skill to acquire the necessities in abundance, thus allowingly their brains to stretch further and create objects of beauty, not function. As an advanced species, we seek to create art/jewelry for beauty's sake. If it functions as a tool, that concept is lost. Aside from that, the ring is also not useless, as it stands as a symbol of love and committment. -Lili

  95. bubble by themusicgod1 · · Score: 1

    when you wrote that.....i thought of a bubble with a magnet ball inside it, and then have a massive mag...wait a minute this is a geek couple...if they have magnets in their hands they'll fux0r the next computer they touch! bad idea i suppose...AVOID MAGNETS!

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  96. Very functional jewerly by heatmzr · · Score: 1

    Those braclets that Wonder Woman had were nice. Handy if your finance will be defending the world from evil. Esp. handy if she's a school teacher.

    You might even be able to get them with a matching gold lasso that makes people tell the truth... Oh, wait... maybe that's not such a good idea.