Thats the main problem with linux. An OS is only as good as the apps your running on it. And frankly the apps on linux aren't as good as their Windows counterparts.
Yes we need to compare major apps to major apps on both platforms. Theres nothing really wrong with the Linux OS and its usability, its the programs that you run under it. This is why the BEOS failed. It was a great OS that I would even let my grandma use (which I still can't quite say about linux) but once you had it installed there really wasn't much the normal user could do with it.
Win2k installation all day? WTF are you trying to install it on a 486?
I work in a compatibilty lab testing software on various hardware configurations which we have to build the machines from the ground up. Doing a win2k installation takes 1-3 hours tops on a normal machine (350mhz, 64mbram, and up) that includes driver installation etc. If I spent all day doing one installation I would be fired the next day.
I guess it could take much longer if you have to install all your apps and configure them the way you want to, but thats not the OS to blame.
Yes this sounds like hardware problem. Sounds like there could be some sort of overheating problem, or a memory issue. Are you using an athlon/duron system?
Read their website. This is a good example of why slashdot articles should be trusted less than Microsoft. To quote their website.
"Despite what some (very misleading) news articles have recently reported, the retail version of Tux Racer will be released for both Linux and Windows (and most likely the Macintosh); the binaries for all versions will be on the same CD. Don't believe the hype!
These news articles are referring to an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) deal which is in the works, which (although the details have not been finalized) is for Windows only. Getting a Linux version added onto the OEM CD is something that we have considered and will try to do. The only obstacle to this is the fact that our OEM agent only supports Windows products. We will keep you posted.
Further, to clarify: while we will not initially release the source code to version 1.0 under the GPL (this is simply not an option for us in the commercial game market), we do intend to do so some time after the initial release. "
Isn't this basically what AOL is? I mean you can access the internet from AOL but they also have their own network that has alot of content only available to AOL customers. Couldn't AOL just have lots more of premium areas on their network and allow you to still use the web. AOL could probably make things on the network a priority granting quicker access of packets from the premium section.
Actually the Luna interface is not all that different from the old 95 interface. I've been using WinXP RC1 for a while now, the start menu layout has changed a bit but everything is still there. Other than that it just feels like you have some sort of Hasbro theme installed (complete with an animated bloodhound that sniffs around in the file search program.)
Its not nearly as big a change as win3.1 to win95 or win95 to gnome. And besides you can just go into the themes panel and set it back to a theme that looks just like Win2000.
This is just more of the elitist attitude that some linux users like to have.
Of course PC's should be easy to use. If they weren't easy to use most people wouldn't own one. I mean if im drunk off my ass and still need to type up a term paper my computer should allow me to do this (and spell check, remember Im drunk of my ass and can't tell the difference between E and I)
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunatly we probably won't get too much porn. What we will get is tons and tons of ads and spyware preinstalled. I mean hey its convienent having Comet Catcher already installed. We'll also get some retarded desktops from OEMs that sacrifice functionality to make their computers look "different" and "cool" to the newbie user.
Think of all the bad case designs that we see from the OEMs. Then imagine what they could do to your desktop.
The problem with this philosophy is that when something goes wrong on a computer it could either be the third party software, software that came with the computer/OS, hardware, or any combination of those. While when something goes wrong with your Toyota there's only one person to call. Now if you have a problem playing Halflife on your new Dell system and you call Dell they will tell you its not their problem and to call Sierra and you can't expect every software maker to have onsite tech people.
Thats what I think most new users find so frustrating about computers, you can't use the so called playstation mentality for fixing problems. (If you put a game into a playstation and it doesn't work, then you put another game into the playstation. If that game doesn't work then you know its the playstation that is broken. If the 2nd game does work then you know its the 1st game thats broken) This kind of problem solving simply doesn't work for PC's.
Hey I use Spinner at home. The quality is actually very good and there are less commercials, plus you don't get all those annoying DJ's. They also have a good selection of music types. I can't think of any actual radio stations that will play Classic Punk, or Rockabilly, or Surf 24/7.
Yes thats a good solution and I don't really know all that much about how much is costs to engineer and build a Cube, but I suspect that they had the price as low as they were willing to go and still make profit.
What would have been cool is if they came out with a low cost G3 model cube. Then you could get the style and not have to pay so much. Sure you don't get the performance but a cool looking cheap computer would make a good second computer.
Exactly right. The cube looked great but for about the same price you could get a G4 Tower with better specs and better expandability. I mean who out here would take a Cube over a G4 Tower. Not many as proven by Apples sales figures.
What Apple should have done is cut off there low end G4 towers, thus forcing people who can't afford the high end G4 to buy the cube. But instead the Cube had to compete directly with the G4 Towers.
"How do they connect the building to the blimp? "
They will probably use cables, or just land the blimp on the building and connect it that way.
"How do they keep the blimp stationary while placing the building on its destined site? "
They will probably have to constantly use the engines to compensate for the wind. Much like floating oil rigs are constantly compensating for wind and water movements.
"And how do they diconnect the building? I can imagine the blimp will go up like a cork once the building is disconnected."
Im sure again they will use there engines to keep it from climing too fast. But i don't think this will be a real issue. The blimp won't launch like a cork. (or rocket) Just take a helium filled balloon (like one you get at a carnival) and tie a rock to it. Let it sit on the ground and then cut the string. The balloon will go up but it won't shoot of like a cork.
I just don't believe in the concepts of good and evil anymore, its all subjective. Money is not the root of all "so called evil". Its simply a way of determining value of goods and services
Welcome to the Capitalist system my friend. This is how things work over here.
P.S. I support Napster but I don't believe that benefits the RIAA at all as this article would imply.
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Turning swords into plowshares...boring. How about turning missles into spacecraft. Now that rocks.
Its odd because they are using a submarine to launch something into space. It makes a lot of sense, i just don't think its ever been done before. I might be wrong about that though.
Oh yeah, and that whole thing about a device that was designed to destroy cities is now being used for exploration.
I think all mice should have at least 5 buttons. One for each finger, or at least 4 buttons and a wheel for the middle finger. Make the back of the mouse tall enough for the user to support the palm on.
Plus, It would be extremely difficult to play counterstrike with one mouse button.
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Thats the main problem with linux. An OS is only as good as the apps your running on it. And frankly the apps on linux aren't as good as their Windows counterparts.
Yes we need to compare major apps to major apps on both platforms. Theres nothing really wrong with the Linux OS and its usability, its the programs that you run under it. This is why the BEOS failed. It was a great OS that I would even let my grandma use (which I still can't quite say about linux) but once you had it installed there really wasn't much the normal user could do with it.
Win2k installation all day? WTF are you trying to install it on a 486?
I work in a compatibilty lab testing software on various hardware configurations which we have to build the machines from the ground up. Doing a win2k installation takes 1-3 hours tops on a normal machine (350mhz, 64mbram, and up) that includes driver installation etc. If I spent all day doing one installation I would be fired the next day.
I guess it could take much longer if you have to install all your apps and configure them the way you want to, but thats not the OS to blame.
Yes this sounds like hardware problem. Sounds like there could be some sort of overheating problem, or a memory issue. Are you using an athlon/duron system?
Read their website. This is a good example of why slashdot articles should be trusted less than Microsoft. To quote their website.
"Despite what some (very misleading) news articles have recently reported, the retail version of Tux Racer will be released for both Linux and Windows (and most likely the Macintosh); the binaries for all versions will be on the same CD. Don't believe the hype! These news articles are referring to an OEM (original equipment manufacturer) deal which is in the works, which (although the details have not been finalized) is for Windows only. Getting a Linux version added onto the OEM CD is something that we have considered and will try to do. The only obstacle to this is the fact that our OEM agent only supports Windows products. We will keep you posted. Further, to clarify: while we will not initially release the source code to version 1.0 under the GPL (this is simply not an option for us in the commercial game market), we do intend to do so some time after the initial release. "
Isn't this basically what AOL is? I mean you can access the internet from AOL but they also have their own network that has alot of content only available to AOL customers. Couldn't AOL just have lots more of premium areas on their network and allow you to still use the web. AOL could probably make things on the network a priority granting quicker access of packets from the premium section.
Actually the Luna interface is not all that different from the old 95 interface. I've been using WinXP RC1 for a while now, the start menu layout has changed a bit but everything is still there. Other than that it just feels like you have some sort of Hasbro theme installed (complete with an animated bloodhound that sniffs around in the file search program.)
Its not nearly as big a change as win3.1 to win95 or win95 to gnome. And besides you can just go into the themes panel and set it back to a theme that looks just like Win2000.
Yes that dragging items in the Start menu is fantastic. Its so much easier than doing it the old way.
This is just more of the elitist attitude that some linux users like to have.
Of course PC's should be easy to use. If they weren't easy to use most people wouldn't own one. I mean if im drunk off my ass and still need to type up a term paper my computer should allow me to do this (and spell check, remember Im drunk of my ass and can't tell the difference between E and I)
I couldn't agree more. Unfortunatly we probably won't get too much porn. What we will get is tons and tons of ads and spyware preinstalled. I mean hey its convienent having Comet Catcher already installed. We'll also get some retarded desktops from OEMs that sacrifice functionality to make their computers look "different" and "cool" to the newbie user.
Think of all the bad case designs that we see from the OEMs. Then imagine what they could do to your desktop.
The problem with this philosophy is that when something goes wrong on a computer it could either be the third party software, software that came with the computer/OS, hardware, or any combination of those. While when something goes wrong with your Toyota there's only one person to call. Now if you have a problem playing Halflife on your new Dell system and you call Dell they will tell you its not their problem and to call Sierra and you can't expect every software maker to have onsite tech people.
Thats what I think most new users find so frustrating about computers, you can't use the so called playstation mentality for fixing problems. (If you put a game into a playstation and it doesn't work, then you put another game into the playstation. If that game doesn't work then you know its the playstation that is broken. If the 2nd game does work then you know its the 1st game thats broken) This kind of problem solving simply doesn't work for PC's.
Hey I use Spinner at home. The quality is actually very good and there are less commercials, plus you don't get all those annoying DJ's. They also have a good selection of music types. I can't think of any actual radio stations that will play Classic Punk, or Rockabilly, or Surf 24/7.
Yes thats a good solution and I don't really know all that much about how much is costs to engineer and build a Cube, but I suspect that they had the price as low as they were willing to go and still make profit.
What would have been cool is if they came out with a low cost G3 model cube. Then you could get the style and not have to pay so much. Sure you don't get the performance but a cool looking cheap computer would make a good second computer.
Exactly right. The cube looked great but for about the same price you could get a G4 Tower with better specs and better expandability. I mean who out here would take a Cube over a G4 Tower. Not many as proven by Apples sales figures.
What Apple should have done is cut off there low end G4 towers, thus forcing people who can't afford the high end G4 to buy the cube. But instead the Cube had to compete directly with the G4 Towers.
Yeah it would kind of be like a real life Mystery Science Theater 3000
"How do they connect the building to the blimp? "
They will probably use cables, or just land the blimp on the building and connect it that way.
"How do they keep the blimp stationary while placing the building on its destined site? "
They will probably have to constantly use the engines to compensate for the wind. Much like floating oil rigs are constantly compensating for wind and water movements.
"And how do they diconnect the building? I can imagine the blimp will go up like a cork once the building is disconnected."
Im sure again they will use there engines to keep it from climing too fast. But i don't think this will be a real issue. The blimp won't launch like a cork. (or rocket) Just take a helium filled balloon (like one you get at a carnival) and tie a rock to it. Let it sit on the ground and then cut the string. The balloon will go up but it won't shoot of like a cork.
I just don't believe in the concepts of good and evil anymore, its all subjective. Money is not the root of all "so called evil". Its simply a way of determining value of goods and services
Dude, you just totally described my Dad.
Welcome to the Capitalist system my friend. This is how things work over here. P.S. I support Napster but I don't believe that benefits the RIAA at all as this article would imply.
Who said there was anything wrong with soviet technology.
Turning swords into plowshares...boring. How about turning missles into spacecraft. Now that rocks.
Its just a metaphor.
Its odd because they are using a submarine to launch something into space. It makes a lot of sense, i just don't think its ever been done before. I might be wrong about that though. Oh yeah, and that whole thing about a device that was designed to destroy cities is now being used for exploration.
I think all mice should have at least 5 buttons. One for each finger, or at least 4 buttons and a wheel for the middle finger. Make the back of the mouse tall enough for the user to support the palm on. Plus, It would be extremely difficult to play counterstrike with one mouse button.