I can think of 3 'third choices' straight away -- 1 finished, 2 less so:
First, the finished one. You might want to look at
XFCE. Think of it as CDE done right. Uses GTK as its widget set, so it interoperates very well with Gnome/GTK programs.
Someone else has mentioned GNUSTEP already, but that seems to be advancing about as quickly as GNU/HURD.
Lastly,
Enlightenment
seems to be turning into a complete desktop environment of it's own, and looks good if you like that sort of thing.
If anyone is interested in mathematics or computer science and hasn't checked out
Citeseer
yet, go there now! The sheer quantity and quality of papers it indexes and stores is amazing -- and the intelligent cross referencing is the best I've seen.
Here's an example that I was looking at earlier this week. Want to read the paper where Biham and Shamir rediscover differential cryptanalysis?
Here it is. It reports 115 citations of this paper, and if you click on the link, you can see the context it was cited, and then go on to download and read those papers. From browsing the citations, you might notice that linear cryptanalysis is another recently discovered technique. Citeseer doesn't include the original paper for this, but
from the citation page
we can see the papers which reference it, including
this interesting one from the Australasian Journal of Combinatorics.
Very true. I guess Python and Slashdot don't mix. Interestingly, I'm fairly sure I didn't post this -- I previewed, not submitted. Oh well, that's what I get for following instructions... (and why doesn't Slashdot let you use the PRE tag, anyhow?).
Note that you don't have to use tabs... as long as the columns match up, you can use as many spaces as you want. Here's an exaple from the Python language documentation that demonstrates this:
def perm(l):
# Compute the list of all permutations of l
if len(l) <= 1:
return [l]
r = []
for i in range(len(l)):
s = l[:i] + l[i+1:]
p = perm(s)
for x in p:
r.append(l[i:i+1] + x)
return r
Almost everyone that writes in languages such as C indents their code to reflect the structure of the code -- this means that information about the structure is in 2 different places -- the code itself, and the indentation. When they get out of whack, the compiler looks at the code, and the human looks at the indentation. Python removes this problem by caring *only* about indentation.
You might mutter a while about whitespace the first few times you write a Python program, particularly if you've come from a C or Perl background. It's when you come back to a Python program 6 months later, and find that you can still understand it perfectly, that you realise the benefits of the stylistic sanity Python enforces.
Perl might be trying to be more like a natural language -- but natural languages are not natural for algorithmic specification.
A lot more people will be using Sawfish in the future - it's now the default window manager with Gnome 1.4.
I've just noticed that it works with KDE 2.1 as well, which has made me a happy bunny (Konqueror's my browser/file manager of choice + Sawfish is my favorite window manager, but I've been trialing pure KDE for a while so haven't tried mixing them together recently).
at least 1 of the packages requires gtk+ 1.2.9... can't remember which one though - too many to compile, and I keep forgetting which order they need to be compiled in (one thing the KDE packaging does right -- a few monolithic packages making compilation and installing much simpler).
No, you're wrong - this really is the actual release. It confused me at first as well because of
the stupid way they bungled the release (put out a press release saying it's out, then putting out another one saying they were having problems, and then finally getting the release out)
ftp.gnome.org not being updated before other mirror sites.
If you connect to the sites listed at
http://download.gnome.org
,
(well, certainly to
ftp://gnome.eazel.com/pub/GNOME/
,
which is the one I used),
you'll see that Gnome 1.4 really has been released. Note that 1.4 is still based around Gtk 1.2, and so is really just an updated Gnome 1.2 -- apart from the addition of Nautilus which I am compiling as I write.
(I can recommend the book 'The Universal History of Numbers' by Georges Ifrah for all you could ever want to know about the development of number systems)
The Roman number system certainly didn't have a concept of decimal point. They did however have symbols for some common fractions (such as 1/2, 1/3, 1/4). For example, 1/2 an 'as' (their unit of currency) was 'as semis', often signified by an 'S'. An 'as' was divided into 12 'uncia' (ounces), often signified by an 'O' on the abacus.
So, I suppose you could start using base 12 instead of base 10, and have 'MacOS XO' for 10 & 1/12, 'MacOS XOO' for 10 & 2/12, etc. Could get a little annoying.
... which is precisely the reason that the copyright notice on recent versions of the Linux kernel has been altered - it now states that Linux uses the *current* version of the GPL.
I could find the references about this, but I'm too tired to karma whore.
Without limiting the rights under copyright, no part of this document may be reproduced, stored in or introduced into a retrieval system, or transmitted in any form or by any means (electronic, mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise), or for any purpose, without the express written permission of Microsoft Corporation.
Which rather puts paid to that idea... although I'm sure someone will just ignore that and post the document fairly soon.
It looks like Gnome are working towards removing all dependencies on Enlightenment-related stuff - Imlib for example. The default Gnome window manager for Gnome 2.0 will in all likelihood be Sawmill. I say this for a couple of reasons, the newest being that John Harper (the author of Sawmill) has just been appointed a member of the Gnome 2 Steering Committee.
No, it isn't open source. Gnutella was *intended* to be open source, but was shut down by AOL before the source was released. So, we have lots of clever people like CapnBry attacking the *closed source* Gnutella binary with packet sniffers.
Please read a little more about it next time, before jumping in and correcting someone wrongly.
This contains links to server lists, official clients, protocol information, and all the unofficial clients that are currently in development. The only really usable ones are for Windows at the moment, but there is a Linux console version coming on very well.
Now, Napster does what it does (mp3's) very well, but I'm not sure cludging it via Wrapster is that good an idea. Programs like cuteMX, iMesh and Gnutella have been designed for all types of files, so why not use those instead?
Those links have been superceded by this page, which seems to be a combined news and FAQ page. Note that the newest version of Gnutella,.491, has problems, so using.49 or.48 is a good idea (I'm using.48 at the moment). The page also shows some IP addresses to connect to to get you started, now that the main server is down.
Gnutella also has a very active EFNet channel (#gnutella, surprisingly enough). Come on over:).
If you want interesting, timely and relevant news and opinion pieces, have a look at The Register. Slashdot is mostly for flames, trolls, and the odd interesting story now and again.
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I was getting seriously worried that everyone on Slashdot was about 12 years old... or had nothing better to do that to read every single story, even if they know beforehand that they're not interested. If I had moderator points I'd moderate down as many of the idiot knee-jerk responses as I could, but I guess I'll have to go be annoyed somewhere else.
I only feel the need to post to stories when I feel I have something interesting to say. If I'm not interesting in a story, I don't read the responses. It's not exactly hard.
Of course, it doesn't help that this was posted by Katz. The reactions he gets in this forum reminds me of why I hated secondary school so much. I just hope some of the people that flame him realise how stupid they were when they grow up.
Now if only Creative would come out with SBLive Linux.
I have to ask - what would the point of this be? Creative have been working on their SBLive Linux drivers for quite a while, and they are almost at the stage where they can get the driver included in the kernel. I forsee that they will get included before 2.4 comes out. Until then, you can download the kernel module source code at Creative's Open Source web site.
Slashdot Mirror
According to validator.w3.org, absolutely nothing (which, I suppose, was your point).
Here's an example that I was looking at earlier this week. Want to read the paper where Biham and Shamir rediscover differential cryptanalysis? Here it is. It reports 115 citations of this paper, and if you click on the link, you can see the context it was cited, and then go on to download and read those papers. From browsing the citations, you might notice that linear cryptanalysis is another recently discovered technique. Citeseer doesn't include the original paper for this, but from the citation page we can see the papers which reference it, including this interesting one from the Australasian Journal of Combinatorics.
This is the way paper hunting should be done.
Very true. I guess Python and Slashdot don't mix. Interestingly, I'm fairly sure I didn't post this -- I previewed, not submitted. Oh well, that's what I get for following instructions... (and why doesn't Slashdot let you use the PRE tag, anyhow?).
See the Python documentation for more information.
def perm(l): # Compute the list of all permutations of l if len(l) <= 1: return [l] r = [] for i in range(len(l)): s = l[:i] + l[i+1:] p = perm(s) for x in p: r.append(l[i:i+1] + x) return r
See the Python documentation for more information.
Almost everyone that writes in languages such as C indents their code to reflect the structure of the code -- this means that information about the structure is in 2 different places -- the code itself, and the indentation. When they get out of whack, the compiler looks at the code, and the human looks at the indentation. Python removes this problem by caring *only* about indentation.
You might mutter a while about whitespace the first few times you write a Python program, particularly if you've come from a C or Perl background. It's when you come back to a Python program 6 months later, and find that you can still understand it perfectly, that you realise the benefits of the stylistic sanity Python enforces.
Perl might be trying to be more like a natural language -- but natural languages are not natural for algorithmic specification.
See the website for Stackless Python to see what you've been missing. It's not an official project, but looks to be fairly well advanced.
...or 'when did you stop molesting you children?'
(for more examples of leading questions, see any TV interview with Jeremy Paxman).
A lot more people will be using Sawfish in the future - it's now the default window manager with Gnome 1.4.
I've just noticed that it works with KDE 2.1 as well, which has made me a happy bunny (Konqueror's my browser/file manager of choice + Sawfish is my favorite window manager, but I've been trialing pure KDE for a while so haven't tried mixing them together recently).
at least 1 of the packages requires gtk+ 1.2.9... can't remember which one though - too many to compile, and I keep forgetting which order they need to be compiled in (one thing the KDE packaging does right -- a few monolithic packages making compilation and installing much simpler).
If you connect to the sites listed at http://download.gnome.org , (well, certainly to ftp://gnome.eazel.com/pub/GNOME/ , which is the one I used), you'll see that Gnome 1.4 really has been released. Note that 1.4 is still based around Gtk 1.2, and so is really just an updated Gnome 1.2 -- apart from the addition of Nautilus which I am compiling as I write.
(I can recommend the book 'The Universal History of Numbers' by Georges Ifrah for all you could ever want to know about the development of number systems)
The Roman number system certainly didn't have a concept of decimal point. They did however have symbols for some common fractions (such as 1/2, 1/3, 1/4). For example, 1/2 an 'as' (their unit of currency) was 'as semis', often signified by an 'S'. An 'as' was divided into 12 'uncia' (ounces), often signified by an 'O' on the abacus.
So, I suppose you could start using base 12 instead of base 10, and have 'MacOS XO' for 10 & 1/12, 'MacOS XOO' for 10 & 2/12, etc. Could get a little annoying.
... which is precisely the reason that the copyright notice on recent versions of the Linux kernel has been altered - it now states that Linux uses the *current* version of the GPL.
I could find the references about this, but I'm too tired to karma whore.
yes - amusing that, isn't it?
hey ho.
Which rather puts paid to that idea... although I'm sure someone will just ignore that and post the document fairly soon.
Is there a nice direct URL to the file? The fifteen million layers of web proxys I have to browse through haven't realised that the site has updated.
It looks like Gnome are working towards removing all dependencies on Enlightenment-related stuff - Imlib for example. The default Gnome window manager for Gnome 2.0 will in all likelihood be Sawmill. I say this for a couple of reasons, the newest being that John Harper (the author of Sawmill) has just been appointed a member of the Gnome 2 Steering Committee.
No, it isn't open source. Gnutella was *intended* to be open source, but was shut down by AOL before the source was released. So, we have lots of clever people like CapnBry attacking the *closed source* Gnutella binary with packet sniffers.
Please read a little more about it next time, before jumping in and correcting someone wrongly.
Gnutella homepage
This contains links to server lists, official clients, protocol information, and all the unofficial clients that are currently in development. The only really usable ones are for Windows at the moment, but there is a Linux console version coming on very well.
Now, Napster does what it does (mp3's) very well, but I'm not sure cludging it via Wrapster is that good an idea. Programs like cuteMX, iMesh and Gnutella have been designed for all types of files, so why not use those instead?
Those links have been superceded by this page, which seems to be a combined news and FAQ page. Note that the newest version of Gnutella, .491, has problems, so using .49 or .48 is a good idea (I'm using .48 at the moment). The page also shows some IP addresses to connect to to get you started, now that the main server is down.
Gnutella also has a very active EFNet channel (#gnutella, surprisingly enough). Come on over :).
If you want interesting, timely and relevant news and opinion pieces, have a look at The Register. Slashdot is mostly for flames, trolls, and the odd interesting story now and again.
I was getting seriously worried that everyone on Slashdot was about 12 years old... or had nothing better to do that to read every single story, even if they know beforehand that they're not interested. If I had moderator points I'd moderate down as many of the idiot knee-jerk responses as I could, but I guess I'll have to go be annoyed somewhere else.
I only feel the need to post to stories when I feel I have something interesting to say. If I'm not interesting in a story, I don't read the responses. It's not exactly hard.
Of course, it doesn't help that this was posted by Katz. The reactions he gets in this forum reminds me of why I hated secondary school so much. I just hope some of the people that flame him realise how stupid they were when they grow up.
I thought you Unix types could count anything?!
Can't count the real numbers.
Now if only Creative would come out with SBLive Linux.
I have to ask - what would the point of this be? Creative have been working on their SBLive Linux drivers for quite a while, and they are almost at the stage where they can get the driver included in the kernel. I forsee that they will get included before 2.4 comes out. Until then, you can download the kernel module source code at Creative's Open Source web site.