Buying the coffee beans green, and roasting them yourself is the ultimate in flavor, really. The upside is the the green beans stay good for about a year, where the roasted flavor disappears after a month or two.
Because the people who want to sell it to you say so. Trust them. And, of course, Microsoft thinks that closing off their OS even more, will make it safer. HAHaHa.
I thought "sweet!!!" now we don't need to have Firefox, or Mozilla on a system to run XUL-based programs (not that I don't love Firefox), but the download for XULRunner is bigger than the Firefox download. Why is that, is there extra stuff in the archive that actually isn't needed to use this, or what? I haven't really looked at it, but if all this is needed, what's the advantage over just putting Firefox on your system?
Google Throws Linux Users a Bone An old, marrowless, dried up, bone, with no meat on it, and, yet, there it is. Basically they're making a Windows app run on Linux, using Wine. Why didn't we think of that?
Yes and they're doing so well at it.
Like this quote from your first link (by the way I did read both items before I saw your post)
Is all the software in the Google Pack free?
Yes, all the software in the Google Pack is free. Some programs may offer paid versions that provide additional features or ongoing updates, but you'll never have to install the paid versions, and your free version will continue to work as long as you have it installed.
The version of Norton Antivirus in the Google Pack includes 6 months of protection updates that enable the program to identify and remove new threats. If you'd like to continue receiving these updates after 6 months, you'll need to purchase an update subscription from Symantec. Purchasing a subscription is optional.
How irresponsible is it to tell people (who probably know nothing about it) that updates for their virus protection is "optional".
Please.
12 pieces of OSS (including 2 patches). Wow! Sorry, not very impressive. (I'm not including the apis because most of them are to google apps, and it's not really what I'd call free software.) Yes they do give money to various projects, and they may help dissemintate stuff like Firefox, and OOo (which are definitely "good things"), but it seems like the value they get from OSS is far more than anything they contribute. Just like other megacorps, they are taking it and using it for their purposes, and just returning smidges of code/support so they look like they're doing stuff for the community.
Except for using some OSS what are they doing for it, if all the products they put out are proprietary? How does their reputation (which isn't all that "great" in my opinion) help OSS if they are doing this?
I think you've hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Google seems to take without really giving much (except talk). Yeah they have funded some stuff, but really, in relation to their income, it's not even a drop in the bucket. They use open source software, and yet, everything they put out is proprietary. That's not giving back, and it's not doing good (although I guess it's not"evil" either, just kinda shady.).
This is supposed to be a "great" announcement? That's it? A bundle of software that's available anywhere? And none free/libre? and Norton isn't free since you have to pay for updates after 6 months (just like any other OEM installation). Why not choose AVG, which has free updates, on it's personal version, forever?
Bet their stock pricer just went down....and all of it only works on XP? No wonder Bill Gates dismissed them out of hand at CES.
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And what good is all that eye-candy in the last screenshot? When you actually use the computer to do some work, it all dissappears behind program windows. Pretty, but useless. (and it's, also, xfce, which seems to me to be cheating, somehow, if you're talking about the configurability of Gnome--which is my DE of choice, by the way.)
You're talking about custom tweaking here,not about general usability. Most people will never need (or use) anything other than the basic install of Firefox. And it's not that hard for a company to brand FF as they want it, and deplo it that way (many have). I have 3 extensions downloaded, and only really need one for my everyday use (sessionsaver), the other two are just coveniences. Even without these extensions, my web browsing experience is much better, and, safer than with IE (I haven't seen a popunder/over in so long that I'm really amazed when I happen to use IE and see so many of them. Although, I will admit I've seen a few lately, because of the new shit that some sites are scripting.)
On those points: 1 No--most graphics departments are running it on Macs 2 Live who? 3 Norton--Jeez, get a real AV program. (Although, suprisingly, many OEM companies have the trial version of that instaled on the computer when you get it--I usually just delete it, or format/partition the hardrive and put Linux on it. 4 I think you're spot on on that one. Can't see anyone wanting AOl toolbar.
The only problem is that Walmart isn't really "capitalist". They are one of the biggest recipients of corporate welfare in the US. As for the (so called) slave labor argument--that's so much bullshit, and prejudicial. Are the only people in the world who deserve jobs, or a higher standard of living, US citizens? Just another form of bigotry in my opinion.
You're right. The next 'debate' will be at a state owned university. Still the 'debates' are governemnt funded, and public money was used to pay the police (and snipers--some students were arrested just for walking across their own campus, and told that snipers were trained on them), etc. I think there is a grey area on this one as far as the private property thing goes, since I'm sure many funds that help run this university (and support their research, etc.) come from the government. And there's still the whole thing that this was a "public" event having to do with the so-called democratic process here.
Ok--it's a speaker )which is really neat). Butt it's 1 speaker, so it makes it mono, and that's it. I thought it was going to be something to play/store music on. Unless there's more, we've been jipped.
I'd heard something about that for the next release of windows. So file searching and internet searching will be simple, don't even need to open a browser.
That's my question. To me this make Linux look like just another app that you can install on windows, and have fun playing with. I think that stuff like this actually sets Linux back, and doesn't move it ahead. Linux is an OS, not an app. The real work to be done is to make Linux better than windows, in every way, and make it easy for people to use. Linux doesn't need more apps, it has most of the ones that normal users would need, and DTP and Graphics progs are getting to be on par with windows and mac. What Linux needs is to get a handle on the dependencies issues, that plague installs. That's the major problem I have with it, and that most people have as far as I can see. (Yes I know about apt, etc., but not all distros have it.)
Thanks for that. Slashdot is a site based on free (as in freedom) software principles, and extends this to many things(P2P, etc.). Seems like many people who post here don't extend these principles into their everyday life.
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Buying the coffee beans green, and roasting them yourself is the ultimate in flavor, really.
The upside is the the green beans stay good for about a year, where the roasted flavor disappears after a month or two.
Because the people who want to sell it to you say so.
Trust them.
And, of course, Microsoft thinks that closing off their OS even more, will make it safer. HAHaHa.
I thought "sweet!!!" now we don't need to have Firefox, or Mozilla on a system to run XUL-based programs (not that I don't love Firefox), but the download for XULRunner is bigger than the Firefox download. Why is that, is there extra stuff in the archive that actually isn't needed to use this, or what? I haven't really looked at it, but if all this is needed, what's the advantage over just putting Firefox on your system?
Google Throws Linux Users a Bone
An old, marrowless, dried up, bone, with no meat on it, and, yet, there it is.
Basically they're making a Windows app run on Linux, using Wine. Why didn't we think of that?
12 pieces of OSS (including 2 patches). Wow! Sorry, not very impressive. (I'm not including the apis because most of them are to google apps, and it's not really what I'd call free software.)
Yes they do give money to various projects, and they may help dissemintate stuff like Firefox, and OOo (which are definitely "good things"), but it seems like the value they get from OSS is far more than anything they contribute.
Just like other megacorps, they are taking it and using it for their purposes, and just returning smidges of code/support so they look like they're doing stuff for the community.
OK--off my soapbox now.
Actually I contribute to several open source projects.
Except for using some OSS what are they doing for it, if all the products they put out are proprietary?
How does their reputation (which isn't all that "great" in my opinion) help OSS if they are doing this?
I think you've hit the nail on the head, so to speak. Google seems to take without really giving much (except talk). Yeah they have funded some stuff, but really, in relation to their income, it's not even a drop in the bucket. They use open source software, and yet, everything they put out is proprietary. That's not giving back, and it's not doing good (although I guess it's not"evil" either, just kinda shady.).
This is supposed to be a "great" announcement? That's it? A bundle of software that's available anywhere? And none free/libre? and Norton isn't free since you have to pay for updates after 6 months (just like any other OEM installation). Why not choose AVG, which has free updates, on it's personal version, forever?
...and all of it only works on XP? No wonder Bill Gates dismissed them out of hand at CES.
Bet their stock pricer just went down.
And what good is all that eye-candy in the last screenshot? When you actually use the computer to do some work, it all dissappears behind program windows. Pretty, but useless. (and it's, also, xfce, which seems to me to be cheating, somehow, if you're talking about the configurability of Gnome--which is my DE of choice, by the way.)
Isn't all Physics counter-intuitive anyways?
have just bought a couple of the light saber "replicas" that everyone and their brother's selling?
Heck they even make sounds.
Me, too, and it's a lot easier to add footnotes/endnotes wit OO.org, than using a typewriter and 3x5 cards.
You're talking about custom tweaking here,not about general usability. Most people will never need (or use) anything other than the basic install of Firefox. And it's not that hard for a company to brand FF as they want it, and deplo it that way (many have).
I have 3 extensions downloaded, and only really need one for my everyday use (sessionsaver), the other two are just coveniences.
Even without these extensions, my web browsing experience is much better, and, safer than with IE (I haven't seen a popunder/over in so long that I'm really amazed when I happen to use IE and see so many of them. Although, I will admit I've seen a few lately, because of the new shit that some sites are scripting.)
If you don't like it--use another distro.
Anyone whos says that it's old hat needs to remember how many distros are
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on it.That said hurrah for Brandon, may he have a fruitful reign.
On those points:
1 No--most graphics departments are running it on Macs
2 Live who?
3 Norton--Jeez, get a real AV program. (Although, suprisingly, many OEM companies have the trial version of that instaled on the computer when you get it--I usually just delete it, or format/partition the hardrive and put Linux on it.
4 I think you're spot on on that one. Can't see anyone wanting AOl toolbar.
The only problem is that Walmart isn't really "capitalist". They are one of the biggest recipients of corporate welfare in the US.
As for the (so called) slave labor argument--that's so much bullshit, and prejudicial. Are the only people in the world who deserve jobs, or a higher standard of living, US citizens? Just another form of bigotry in my opinion.
You're right. The next 'debate' will be at a state owned university. Still the 'debates' are governemnt funded, and public money was used to pay the police (and snipers--some students were arrested just for walking across their own campus, and told that snipers were trained on them), etc.
I think there is a grey area on this one as far as the private property thing goes, since I'm sure many funds that help run this university (and support their research, etc.) come from the government.
And there's still the whole thing that this was a "public" event having to do with the so-called democratic process here.
Because it was held on public propoerty using tax dollars. No private property rights were violated at all.
Ok--it's a speaker )which is really neat).
Butt it's 1 speaker, so it makes it mono, and that's it.
I thought it was going to be something to play/store music on. Unless there's more, we've been jipped.
I'd heard something about that for the next release of windows. So file searching and internet searching will be simple, don't even need to open a browser.
That's my question. To me this make Linux look like just another app that you can install on windows, and have fun playing with.
I think that stuff like this actually sets Linux back, and doesn't move it ahead. Linux is an OS, not an app.
The real work to be done is to make Linux better than windows, in every way, and make it easy for people to use. Linux doesn't need more apps, it has most of the ones that normal users would need, and DTP and Graphics progs are getting to be on par with windows and mac. What Linux needs is to get a handle on the dependencies issues, that plague installs. That's the major problem I have with it, and that most people have as far as I can see. (Yes I know about apt, etc., but not all distros have it.)
Try cleaning out chicken barns.
Thanks for that. Slashdot is a site based on free (as in freedom) software principles, and extends this to many things(P2P, etc.). Seems like many people who post here don't extend these principles into their everyday life.