In the opera browser you can control redirection, opening of referred windows, advertising, whether or not to dump cookies on exit or not, whether to accept them or not, etc. Many servers ping for their sites to redirect later pings based on cookie info. If you've got a firewall going it keeps a record of all the attempted transactions. I have no (technical) idea why, but when I dump cookies on exit I dont get pings from sites I visited on certain servers. When I don't dump them and accept referred logging in the preferences, the next time I open the browser I get continously "browsed"... I have no idea how that works, to be honest with you, but with Netscape or Mozilla the firewall seems over active. However Mozilla has one of the best selective cookie dumpers I've seen. Maybe you can explain all that to me sometimes. I can't see either what one has to do with another. I kept a log. Netscape/Mozilla= 10 pages of firewall log for one day; Opera=1 page: IE5.5= 4 pages.. same days, same times, one week apart.
Exactly, I'm posting this from an Opera browser. It is totally configurable. This morning, as my other box works silently on the desinstallation of windows Me to replace it with Debian, I dumped NS 6.01 from this one. I used the 18 Mozilla for a spell but was obliged to dump that too. Both browsers forget basic configurations then leave you in the lurch with zero config. You can click all you want in the Preferences section, Nothing will change after. The only solution is to reinstall. After doing that with NS 6.01 7 times, I decided it was trash day. Mozilla worked better, but when I got to a freeze and posted on Bugzilla for help (using IE5.5) they send me an E-mail telling me not to bother them with minor problems (like total freeze, forgotten configurations, miscellaneous mail crashes etc. ad infinitum). So voilà..., another trash day. Opera is the only browser that works like it should. The adware is not "spyware" in spite of what others say, and the firewall logs almost no intrusion notices no matter where I go because I have the browser configured correctly. If the newest MoZilla worked like it should it would be the best. NS 6.01 as it stands now is pure caca, a memory eater suffering from some sort of binary dementia.
Yes indeed, I have lost information because of M$ software. When I was doing research, we used BSD because of its simplicity and dependability. BTW, a friend showed me some M$ code, corrected, modified, recorrected, remodified, etc., etc. - the kind that is used in W98 et al. It's like the wall of a shack that's been propped up with whatever scrap was at hand to prevent it from falling..., until there's more scrap than wall. It is akin to buckets and cups scattered around the house to catch the rain leaking in from the roof until you find yourself tripping over stuff on the floor. In fact, this is my last message posted from Win(Me of all things). But before I hit the "take over the hard disk" button (this morning, in fact)in the Debian installation, I must say we disagree on Katz's motives. I believe he is sincere in his approach to the sometimes seemingly unrelated subjects of which he writes. I still believe that he's an excellent essayist. So we disagree on that..., no big thing. We are free to do that as nicely or as nastily as we like. Good day to you Caimlas...
I am certain that if you had no particular grudge against Katz and/or Microsoft, and the article was about something else and/or signed Stannus J. Wolfieschlegelsteinnerhausenbergerdorfmann you'd probably see that it was indeed a well written article. In other words, if you had a Hemingway article signed Katz, you's probably bash that too. Maybe Katz should use a nick to be rightfully appreciated. Have you got any ideas? I for one would suggest The aforementionned name..., or possibly "I. God Almighty PhD, Dr. of Chaos & Spontaneous Creativity."
I can't help but think that there's more than money involved. After the money is made, there seems to be a "cult" effect taking place. You know, the one system, one political party system. That's not very capitalistic, is it?. It's almost anti-free market. When there's only one brand of everything on the market, including belief, that seems to me to be more communist in approach than anything else. Think of Microsoft as being a country and you'll get what I'm driving at. Just a wayward thought.... Every system carries within it the seed of it's own destruction...
I can't help but think that the main reason for all the prejudice against M$ as seen in the posts on this site in particular is that Windows costs money. Add that to the fact that most of the rants against M$ are posted by ados and wannabe ados who have never paid for anything in their lives, you've got a volitile subject to exploit. (enough trolling)... But to be honest with you, I prefer using Debian because of the Open Source Philosophy behind it, and the astonishing efficiency and speed of the Linux OS. I don't wanna pay either, especially for stuff that stuff that shoves organizational propaganda down your trap every time you use it. If Microsoft wanted to show one hundredth of the good will that the Open Source Community has historically shown, he'd come out with a version of the latest Explorer for Linux. The main thing I've got against M$ is the fact that after PAYING for it, you're obliged to digest corporational advertising, and the "built-in" refusal of M$ OS's to recognize almost everything that doesn't come from HQs. That takes a lot of gall: making you pay (which is all right in itself) then forcing you to join the cult just to be able to use the OS for what it should be meant to do while getting out of the way of the will and the preferences of the user. The perfect example of that is all those who are suckered into Hotmail/passport accounts (virtual spam collection software), just to be able to use some already paid for services. This weekend, in all deliberate and well thought fairness to poor little Gatesy, I will push the "take over the whole hard disk" button on my Debian installation program. When I come back, I'll be a little less innocent and well on my way to enjoyment of the greatest intellectual freebee ever created in Tech since the alphabet. Sorry Gates, your stuff works really well, but I'm tired of being a whore to pay for it over and over and over and over again.
Agreed. Corel Linux is by far the easist to install and it has the advantage of being based on Debian/GNU. Libranet Linux is also easy to install and maintain. It too is Debian-based. With both you're just a few clicks away from complete updating via app get. Linux users who love to spend hours typing codes and revising paths/ports just to send a letter to Mama, and just love the recovery time between RedHat and Mandrake crashes won't like these distros. They work too well and never crash...., and they both are Canadian. I use Windows and Debian equally and I still find the Windows interface easier to use when you have to get some serious work out. Sometimes you just want to type a letter or a manuscript, without 200 pages of commands to tell the stupid Linux OS exactly what to do and how. It's like working on the same thing twice, once for the OS and once for one's self. If Hemingway had used a Linux OS and some of the OpenSource text formatters that come with it instead of a pen, we would have never heard of him. Then again, he might have written some pretty fancy code.
I agree. The only to delete bookmarks in Win Me was to use the "cut" option, open the clipboard and delete the contents there. It's inability to accept normal pathe for plug-ins, its freezes on right-clicking, its "must stop programme notices for the most basic of functions under Windows, the inability to manage bookmarks and to configure mail correctly are all minor "problems" which together is a BIG FREEZE. If they could get AOL out of there and stop cashing in each time they find something that works half as well as IE5.5, they may be OK. I'd also suggest getting rid of snotty Open Source Charity Hackers who when they are unable to admit a mistake, fall into a sort of literary, technosarcastic "it must be your fault in configuration" attitude.
I'd rather see a film about a veggy hacker that flips out one day and starts eating Windows code until the security system in Gates' house stops working and all the little kiddies in the M$ educational system have to stop learning FUD.
...and so is masturbation and impure thoughts. What the world needs is a "carnivoer"-based app, that will detect the rampant licentiousness and horrifying virtual stimulants that seem to be replacing the good ol' American Way. Between apple pie bakings, all you got to do is ask MoM that question.
I have a certain "nostalgia" for what Microsoft could have been. It pleased me to see the first Macs come out for the same reason. I just knew that the avenue of communication opened by the accessibility of PCs would have a profound effect on the world, but for getting "things" done, I prefer BSD (UniX) based systems. Once you get pass the language and realize that you can make BSD do just about anything concerning enormous file systems containing updatable statistical data (non-static), the feeling of power is enormous. I admit being an "iggy" concerning Linux, but I imagine that with the new kernel, one might be able to do the same things because Linux comes from the same neighborhood. In scientific research that would be great. Too bad for Microsoft. Their stuff works, but so does an old 55 chevy, duct-taped together so that the doors don't fall onto the road. ("Fill it up Clide, A gallon of gas and two gallons of oil please.") I am disappointed with MS because it could have been better and more "Open" (as in "Source").
....That although Gates possesses some rather autocratic personality traits, such as his general "if you don't like it you know what you can do," attitude he still hasen't yet raised himself up to the level of the "look at me who created MacOS for "everyman" " mentality of the "holier than thou" faction of the boomer generation of which, I must add, I am an unwilling member (Karmic reasons). As far as ego goes, I prefer the money grubbing, power-hungry, attitude of Gates to the slimy, slippery saintlike, politically correct, "power to the people with sugar added" attitude of our illustrious saint-like aforesaid guru of the enlightened generation.
"I don't fault Gates et al. for making huge sums of money. I fault MS for making any innovation in the field of computer science the life-long propriety of one company."
I agree with you there: 999%. I use Windows Me (of all things) and Open BSD, so I am not at all trying to criticize the Open Source philo at all et al. I have done much research within the Genome Project and I wouldn't have done it for a drug company. (BTW BSD was the only OS that could handle it). The idea of propriety and property bothers me very much too. It's like taking the attitude (as a MD): No, I won't tell you how to cure that patient because the treatment is my "intellectual property." I've got a problem with the "$$$ pig" side of things in general. There's more to life. I have noticed that the philosophy upon which Open Source is based is indeed a sharing concept much like the sharing upon which all knowledge and information discovered, uncovered, or stumbled upon by the scientific community should be idealistically. Open Source needs a "Walt Whitman" as much as Microsoft needs to get rid of Gates. He's rich enough. Let him look for "power" somewhere else. In a way, his attitude reminds me of those drug company A-holes who wanted to "patent" life itself.
....much of today's Linux illuminiti wouldn't have heard of Operating Systems, let alone computers. They just weren't cool. Gates made the PC accessible to everyone who could buy one. Today, most of the "virtual world" prefers Windows: writer's who have something to get out to the publisher, businesses which do not want to jump through coded flaming hoops to set up networks or hire specialized geeks to do it for them, people who use the Web as one would use a communication device or the greatest library of knwledge History has ever seen...., in short, people who do not wish to spend half their valuable time typing paths, correcting flawed code, looking for doubtful updates written by high school students, etc. In other words, people with a life which doesn't revolve around the deliberate technical esoterism and infantile egoistic attitudes of Linux freaks who have more interest in keeping themselves in a closed club. Of course Open Source isn't like that, just some interested parties who do not understand the philosophy behind it. It's nice to "be in the know" enough to denigrate those who simply wish to accomplish the task facilitated by the computer they happen to be using at the time. Gates has made the PC a universal tool. There's no getting around that. Linux is trying, but it must crush the seed of its own destruction first. Instead of freaking on and dissing easily installed "distros" the Linux community should be encouraging them.
...typical capatalist pig, "look at the expensive dead animal hide satchel I carry and my nice $7,000 watch" nonsence". ".(..)..will be better because it won't be open." Yeah, how else will you pay for the $10,000 chair you slide under your piss ass and the Mercedes and the "paté de fois gras" you feed to your rug rats...?
An"engineer", and I use the word loosely, -one with all the pasperwork to prove and document his qualifications, decided to install a new file system at a University research project where I was working at the time. The files in question were statistical info, mostly math, on genome code (positions, biochem qualitative, etc etc. To make a long story short, he "lost" then corrupted a file that took five years of research to build, on a network that automatically "updated" backups. Another engineer came in and said there was little he could do without the original data (which had seemingly disappeared). He couldn't find it. A young student with a few fellow hackers, after brushing up on UNIX (BSD) for one day, had everything up an running as before within a few hours. These were guys with no papers to prove their competence. It impressed me so much I read articles on/. now, went from being a Windows slug to a freeBSD education the hard way, and never judge real hackers by the coffee stains on their T-shirts or their taste for Ramen, Krak dinners, Pizza, and Liberty. In other words, in spite of diplomas, true knowledge comes from the SOURCE.
I've been in Canada too long. I just realized what I miss about the USA the way it was before the intellectually and politically correct goon squad mind police somehow seeped their values into the collective American consciousness. In Canada, if you so much as look at a tit, you risk being arrested for harassing eye movements.
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This article in CNET this morning might explain things a little better.
In the opera browser you can control redirection, opening of referred windows, advertising, whether or not to dump cookies on exit or not, whether to accept them or not, etc. Many servers ping for their sites to redirect later pings based on cookie info. If you've got a firewall going it keeps a record of all the attempted transactions. I have no (technical) idea why, but when I dump cookies on exit I dont get pings from sites I visited on certain servers. When I don't dump them and accept referred logging in the preferences, the next time I open the browser I get continously "browsed"... I have no idea how that works, to be honest with you, but with Netscape or Mozilla the firewall seems over active. However Mozilla has one of the best selective cookie dumpers I've seen. Maybe you can explain all that to me sometimes. I can't see either what one has to do with another. I kept a log. Netscape/Mozilla= 10 pages of firewall log for one day; Opera=1 page: IE5.5= 4 pages.. same days, same times, one week apart.
Exactly, I'm posting this from an Opera browser. It is totally configurable. This morning, as my other box works silently on the desinstallation of windows Me to replace it with Debian, I dumped NS 6.01 from this one. I used the 18 Mozilla for a spell but was obliged to dump that too. Both browsers forget basic configurations then leave you in the lurch with zero config. You can click all you want in the Preferences section, Nothing will change after. The only solution is to reinstall. After doing that with NS 6.01 7 times, I decided it was trash day. Mozilla worked better, but when I got to a freeze and posted on Bugzilla for help (using IE5.5) they send me an E-mail telling me not to bother them with minor problems (like total freeze, forgotten configurations, miscellaneous mail crashes etc. ad infinitum). So voilà..., another trash day. Opera is the only browser that works like it should. The adware is not "spyware" in spite of what others say, and the firewall logs almost no intrusion notices no matter where I go because I have the browser configured correctly. If the newest MoZilla worked like it should it would be the best. NS 6.01 as it stands now is pure caca, a memory eater suffering from some sort of binary dementia.
Yes indeed, I have lost information because of M$ software. When I was doing research, we used BSD because of its simplicity and dependability. BTW, a friend showed me some M$ code, corrected, modified, recorrected, remodified, etc., etc. - the kind that is used in W98 et al. It's like the wall of a shack that's been propped up with whatever scrap was at hand to prevent it from falling..., until there's more scrap than wall. It is akin to buckets and cups scattered around the house to catch the rain leaking in from the roof until you find yourself tripping over stuff on the floor. In fact, this is my last message posted from Win(Me of all things). But before I hit the "take over the hard disk" button (this morning, in fact)in the Debian installation, I must say we disagree on Katz's motives. I believe he is sincere in his approach to the sometimes seemingly unrelated subjects of which he writes. I still believe that he's an excellent essayist. So we disagree on that..., no big thing. We are free to do that as nicely or as nastily as we like. Good day to you Caimlas...
I am certain that if you had no particular grudge against Katz and/or Microsoft, and the article was about something else and/or signed Stannus J. Wolfieschlegelsteinnerhausenbergerdorfmann you'd probably see that it was indeed a well written article. In other words, if you had a Hemingway article signed Katz, you's probably bash that too. Maybe Katz should use a nick to be rightfully appreciated. Have you got any ideas? I for one would suggest The aforementionned name..., or possibly "I. God Almighty PhD, Dr. of Chaos & Spontaneous Creativity."
I can't help but think that there's more than money involved. After the money is made, there seems to be a "cult" effect taking place. You know, the one system, one political party system. That's not very capitalistic, is it?. It's almost anti-free market. When there's only one brand of everything on the market, including belief, that seems to me to be more communist in approach than anything else. Think of Microsoft as being a country and you'll get what I'm driving at. Just a wayward thought.... Every system carries within it the seed of it's own destruction...
You forgot (Write extremely well and don't make any spelling errors.)
I can't help but think that the main reason for all the prejudice against M$ as seen in the posts on this site in particular is that Windows costs money. Add that to the fact that most of the rants against M$ are posted by ados and wannabe ados who have never paid for anything in their lives, you've got a volitile subject to exploit. (enough trolling)... But to be honest with you, I prefer using Debian because of the Open Source Philosophy behind it, and the astonishing efficiency and speed of the Linux OS. I don't wanna pay either, especially for stuff that stuff that shoves organizational propaganda down your trap every time you use it. If Microsoft wanted to show one hundredth of the good will that the Open Source Community has historically shown, he'd come out with a version of the latest Explorer for Linux. The main thing I've got against M$ is the fact that after PAYING for it, you're obliged to digest corporational advertising, and the "built-in" refusal of M$ OS's to recognize almost everything that doesn't come from HQs. That takes a lot of gall: making you pay (which is all right in itself) then forcing you to join the cult just to be able to use the OS for what it should be meant to do while getting out of the way of the will and the preferences of the user. The perfect example of that is all those who are suckered into Hotmail/passport accounts (virtual spam collection software), just to be able to use some already paid for services. This weekend, in all deliberate and well thought fairness to poor little Gatesy, I will push the "take over the whole hard disk" button on my Debian installation program. When I come back, I'll be a little less innocent and well on my way to enjoyment of the greatest intellectual freebee ever created in Tech since the alphabet. Sorry Gates, your stuff works really well, but I'm tired of being a whore to pay for it over and over and over and over again.
I am talking out of your oversized cowardly annonymous ass. The one right behind yo mama's teeth teenaged wannabe nerd.
Agreed. Corel Linux is by far the easist to install and it has the advantage of being based on Debian/GNU. Libranet Linux is also easy to install and maintain. It too is Debian-based. With both you're just a few clicks away from complete updating via app get. Linux users who love to spend hours typing codes and revising paths/ports just to send a letter to Mama, and just love the recovery time between RedHat and Mandrake crashes won't like these distros. They work too well and never crash...., and they both are Canadian. I use Windows and Debian equally and I still find the Windows interface easier to use when you have to get some serious work out. Sometimes you just want to type a letter or a manuscript, without 200 pages of commands to tell the stupid Linux OS exactly what to do and how. It's like working on the same thing twice, once for the OS and once for one's self. If Hemingway had used a Linux OS and some of the OpenSource text formatters that come with it instead of a pen, we would have never heard of him. Then again, he might have written some pretty fancy code.
I agree. The only to delete bookmarks in Win Me was to use the "cut" option, open the clipboard and delete the contents there. It's inability to accept normal pathe for plug-ins, its freezes on right-clicking, its "must stop programme notices for the most basic of functions under Windows, the inability to manage bookmarks and to configure mail correctly are all minor "problems" which together is a BIG FREEZE. If they could get AOL out of there and stop cashing in each time they find something that works half as well as IE5.5, they may be OK. I'd also suggest getting rid of snotty Open Source Charity Hackers who when they are unable to admit a mistake, fall into a sort of literary, technosarcastic "it must be your fault in configuration" attitude.
Slashdot is not paradise my son..., au contraire. Did you notice that /. lets users choose the content of their log-in page?
I'd rather see a film about a veggy hacker that flips out one day and starts eating Windows code until the security system in Gates' house stops working and all the little kiddies in the M$ educational system have to stop learning FUD.
...and so is masturbation and impure thoughts. What the world needs is a "carnivoer"-based app, that will detect the rampant licentiousness and horrifying virtual stimulants that seem to be replacing the good ol' American Way. Between apple pie bakings, all you got to do is ask MoM that question.
I have a certain "nostalgia" for what Microsoft could have been. It pleased me to see the first Macs come out for the same reason. I just knew that the avenue of communication opened by the accessibility of PCs would have a profound effect on the world, but for getting "things" done, I prefer BSD (UniX) based systems. Once you get pass the language and realize that you can make BSD do just about anything concerning enormous file systems containing updatable statistical data (non-static), the feeling of power is enormous. I admit being an "iggy" concerning Linux, but I imagine that with the new kernel, one might be able to do the same things because Linux comes from the same neighborhood. In scientific research that would be great. Too bad for Microsoft. Their stuff works, but so does an old 55 chevy, duct-taped together so that the doors don't fall onto the road. ("Fill it up Clide, A gallon of gas and two gallons of oil please.") I am disappointed with MS because it could have been better and more "Open" (as in "Source").
....That although Gates possesses some rather autocratic personality traits, such as his general "if you don't like it you know what you can do," attitude he still hasen't yet raised himself up to the level of the "look at me who created MacOS for "everyman" " mentality of the "holier than thou" faction of the boomer generation of which, I must add, I am an unwilling member (Karmic reasons). As far as ego goes, I prefer the money grubbing, power-hungry, attitude of Gates to the slimy, slippery saintlike, politically correct, "power to the people with sugar added" attitude of our illustrious saint-like aforesaid guru of the enlightened generation.
"I don't fault Gates et al. for making huge sums of money. I fault MS for making any innovation in the field of computer science the life-long propriety of one company." I agree with you there: 999%. I use Windows Me (of all things) and Open BSD, so I am not at all trying to criticize the Open Source philo at all et al. I have done much research within the Genome Project and I wouldn't have done it for a drug company. (BTW BSD was the only OS that could handle it). The idea of propriety and property bothers me very much too. It's like taking the attitude (as a MD): No, I won't tell you how to cure that patient because the treatment is my "intellectual property." I've got a problem with the "$$$ pig" side of things in general. There's more to life. I have noticed that the philosophy upon which Open Source is based is indeed a sharing concept much like the sharing upon which all knowledge and information discovered, uncovered, or stumbled upon by the scientific community should be idealistically. Open Source needs a "Walt Whitman" as much as Microsoft needs to get rid of Gates. He's rich enough. Let him look for "power" somewhere else. In a way, his attitude reminds me of those drug company A-holes who wanted to "patent" life itself.
....much of today's Linux illuminiti wouldn't have heard of Operating Systems, let alone computers. They just weren't cool. Gates made the PC accessible to everyone who could buy one. Today, most of the "virtual world" prefers Windows: writer's who have something to get out to the publisher, businesses which do not want to jump through coded flaming hoops to set up networks or hire specialized geeks to do it for them, people who use the Web as one would use a communication device or the greatest library of knwledge History has ever seen...., in short, people who do not wish to spend half their valuable time typing paths, correcting flawed code, looking for doubtful updates written by high school students, etc. In other words, people with a life which doesn't revolve around the deliberate technical esoterism and infantile egoistic attitudes of Linux freaks who have more interest in keeping themselves in a closed club. Of course Open Source isn't like that, just some interested parties who do not understand the philosophy behind it. It's nice to "be in the know" enough to denigrate those who simply wish to accomplish the task facilitated by the computer they happen to be using at the time. Gates has made the PC a universal tool. There's no getting around that. Linux is trying, but it must crush the seed of its own destruction first. Instead of freaking on and dissing easily installed "distros" the Linux community should be encouraging them.
?.....or are Raskin and Burney of Corel Chips off the same Cow..., err..., or is that "block?"
...typical capatalist pig, "look at the expensive dead animal hide satchel I carry and my nice $7,000 watch" nonsence". ".(..)..will be better because it won't be open." Yeah, how else will you pay for the $10,000 chair you slide under your piss ass and the Mercedes and the "paté de fois gras" you feed to your rug rats...?
An"engineer", and I use the word loosely, -one with all the pasperwork to prove and document his qualifications, decided to install a new file system at a University research project where I was working at the time. The files in question were statistical info, mostly math, on genome code (positions, biochem qualitative, etc etc. To make a long story short, he "lost" then corrupted a file that took five years of research to build, on a network that automatically "updated" backups. Another engineer came in and said there was little he could do without the original data (which had seemingly disappeared). He couldn't find it. A young student with a few fellow hackers, after brushing up on UNIX (BSD) for one day, had everything up an running as before within a few hours. These were guys with no papers to prove their competence. It impressed me so much I read articles on /. now, went from being a Windows slug to a freeBSD education the hard way, and never judge real hackers by the coffee stains on their T-shirts or their taste for Ramen, Krak dinners, Pizza, and Liberty. In other words, in spite of diplomas, true knowledge comes from the SOURCE.
I've been in Canada too long. I just realized what I miss about the USA the way it was before the intellectually and politically correct goon squad mind police somehow seeped their values into the collective American consciousness. In Canada, if you so much as look at a tit, you risk being arrested for harassing eye movements.
Let's be fair about it. All you have to do to understand Tucow's position is to read this second proposal/A to the BSD community. It seems reasonable to me, but then again, I'm using Windex Me right now, the mention of which should prevent OpenSource integrists from clicking on that link.
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