The Japanese nuclear plant in Fukushima ran on Siemens computers that the Stuxnet worm was programmed to infect- in fact the virus was found in Fukushima systems last year. Makes you wonder why the cooling system wasn't functioning. Maybe the tsunami caused failures which Stuxnet made the reactors unable to handle. Failures at four other plants in Japan, German and South African reactors shut down. Using Siemens systems as well?
"There is a vast difference between living according to your God's commandments, and forcing everyone else to live under them".
Yes, but every religion has had both aspects throughout history. This is in no way unique to Islam. Try running for office in the USA under an atheist ticket for instance, and I think the "Christian Taliban" will rear its head.
Sharia roughly means "the way to the water/oasis", but could easily be interpreted as "the law(s)" or "the commandments". Most Americans claim to be Christians, and most Christians claim to follow the ten commandments, ergo most Americans already live under a Christian Sharia.
Washington (CNN) -- U.S. officials at the Pentagon and State Department denied Friday knowing of any efforts to take down the WikiLeaks website or asking companies to do so, and added "Please don't ask me that question again", whilst furtively looking over their shoulders.
"Really, this guy has a major ego / power complex, and it will cost him eventually".
THIS GUY has a major ego / power complex???
Sure, and the owners/governments/public servants of the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France are meek and docile white hat, ego-less do gooders, who have shown time and time again they can be trusted with any amount of power.
"Sweden is a NATO country like the US so what's secret in the US is secret in Sweden".
No, Sweden is not a NATO member. If Sweden were to be a NATO member, only data under NATO confidential codes would be confidential in Sweden, not American (or any other countries) confidential/secret data. Confidential/Secret/Top Secret etc. are national criteria, not applicable internationally, unless originating from the U.N. afaik.
"Also you say that like the US hasn't just grabbed people we really wanted off the street and brought them to the US for trial".
But I think of those "grabbings" as extra-legal, one could say "terrorist-state" activities. Law doesn't come in to it, and it will only move the world in a direction where any American abroad will be viewed as a legitimate target, out of fear for assassination, rendition and/or torture.
"We literaly invaded Panama overthrew the existing government and disolve it's defense forces to get Noriega".
Yes, and those responsible for willfull warfare against a democratic government should be brought before a judge and sentenced. http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml Only a group of people effectively above (international) law could do such a thing and get away with it scot free. And you might even not mind your government being above the law (as long as you're not in their sights), but I guarantee you you won't be pleased with that situation in the long run. Unless, of course, you're a total lackey ; ).
And why would that be? I'm seriously interested why you think a non-US citizen, not residing in the USA, nor doing business with any US corporation, would have to follow any US law?
"Under US law it's illegal to transfer classified documents to persons without a clearance for that information, which is exactly what wikileaks did".
No, that would be Bradley Manning. Wikileaks is not a US company, and has is not compelled to comply with ANY US law.
"It's pretty safe to assume every country has a such a law and that the law applies to non-citizens located both inside and outside the countries traditional boundaries".
You are mistaken. National laws cannot apply to non-citizens located outside a countries boundaries.
"Violating this law is what is popularly known as espionage or spying".
You cannot arrest a FSB researcher in Moskou for charges of spying on the USA. It doesn't work that way.
Alleged fascist and suspected CIA asset Tom Flanagan, University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta Office: Social Sciences 706 Email: tflanaga AT ucalgary.ca Phone: (403) 220-8225
"this has a ball" Yes, fascinating. But it lacks the connection to sex-crime, 1984 and censorship that i thought was so fitting to this story. Also, the music is better in my clip, and no hablar espanol ; ).
In a statement earlier this month, Assange’s British counsel said that his client repeatedly offered to cooperate with local investigators while he was in Sweden, and has offered to answer questions remotely from Britain since then.
“All of these offers have been flatly refused by a prosecutor who is abusing her powers by insisting that he return to Sweden at his own expense to be subjected to another media circus that she will orchestrate,” wrote attorney Mark Stephens. “Pursuing a warrant in this circumstance is entirely unnecessary and disproportionate.
I've seen these arguments repeatedly, and i think they're a load of bollocks. Yeah, the CIA would never assassinate anybody. And if they really wanted to it would be like "hey, presto". And if they don't the target must be a CIA operative (UBL, Fidel Castro). How do you know the last leak was the largest ever? My guess would be a crystal ball with the "seeing the future" option.
"another country that doesn't have any problem getting their hands dirty". Haha bloody ha. Although i'm afraid you're serious.
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But if it had to perish twice,
I think I know enough of hate
To say that for destruction ice
Is also great
And would suffice.
"They can do whatever the hell they want, and so can any other nation".
I think many people would disagree.
http://www.un.org/en/law/index.shtml
The Japanese nuclear plant in Fukushima ran on Siemens computers that the Stuxnet worm was programmed to infect- in fact the virus was found in Fukushima systems last year.
Makes you wonder why the cooling system wasn't functioning. Maybe the tsunami caused failures which Stuxnet made the reactors unable to handle.
Failures at four other plants in Japan, German and South African reactors shut down.
Using Siemens systems as well?
Don't play Civ 4 or 5.
Play Civ 3 C.
And smoke blunts, the munchies will make you to eat.
Was this experiment perhaps non-smoking?
"There is a vast difference between living according to your God's commandments, and forcing everyone else to live under them".
Yes, but every religion has had both aspects throughout history. This is in no way unique to Islam. Try running for office in the USA under an atheist ticket for instance, and I think the "Christian Taliban" will rear its head.
Sharia roughly means "the way to the water/oasis", but could easily be interpreted as "the law(s)" or "the commandments".
Most Americans claim to be Christians, and most Christians claim to follow the ten commandments, ergo most Americans already live under a Christian Sharia.
Many American's already live under a Christian Sharia.
Like an egg in a microwave : )?
One mission down.
Now find the Targoid mothership.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
That's where I want to Bee?
The Roman Empire fell and slavery was abolished?
OK, so it took a little time...
There's no due process in mob justice.
There's no justice without due process.
What goes around comes around.
http://my.firedoglake.com/kirkmurphy/2010/12/04/assanges-chief-accuser-has-her-own-history-with-us-funded-anti-castro-groups-one-of-which-has-cia-ties/
: )
Washington (CNN) -- U.S. officials at the Pentagon and State Department denied Friday knowing of any efforts to take down the WikiLeaks website or asking companies to do so, and added "Please don't ask me that question again", whilst furtively looking over their shoulders.
"Really, this guy has a major ego / power complex, and it will cost him eventually".
THIS GUY has a major ego / power complex???
Sure, and the owners/governments/public servants of the United States, Russia, China, Britain and France are meek and docile white hat, ego-less do gooders, who have shown time and time again they can be trusted with any amount of power.
It's not called "the Prince", it's called "the Ruler" ("Il principe").
"Sweden is a NATO country like the US so what's secret in the US is secret in Sweden".
No, Sweden is not a NATO member.
If Sweden were to be a NATO member, only data under NATO confidential codes would be confidential in Sweden, not American (or any other countries) confidential/secret data. Confidential/Secret/Top Secret etc. are national criteria, not applicable internationally, unless originating from the U.N. afaik.
"Also you say that like the US hasn't just grabbed people we really wanted off the street and brought them to the US for trial".
But I think of those "grabbings" as extra-legal, one could say "terrorist-state" activities.
Law doesn't come in to it, and it will only move the world in a direction where any American abroad will be viewed as a legitimate target,
out of fear for assassination, rendition and/or torture.
"We literaly invaded Panama overthrew the existing government and disolve it's defense forces to get Noriega".
Yes, and those responsible for willfull warfare against a democratic government should be brought
before a judge and sentenced. http://www.un.org/en/documents/charter/chapter1.shtml
Only a group of people effectively above (international) law could do such a thing and get away with it scot free.
And you might even not mind your government being above the law (as long as you're not in their sights), but I guarantee you you won't be pleased with that situation in the long run.
Unless, of course, you're a total lackey ; ).
And why would that be?
I'm seriously interested why you think a non-US citizen, not residing in the USA, nor doing business with any US corporation, would have to follow any US law?
"Under US law it's illegal to transfer classified documents to persons without a clearance for that information, which is exactly what wikileaks did".
No, that would be Bradley Manning. Wikileaks is not a US company, and has is not compelled to comply with ANY US law.
"It's pretty safe to assume every country has a such a law and that the law applies to non-citizens located both inside and outside the countries traditional boundaries".
You are mistaken. National laws cannot apply to non-citizens located outside a countries boundaries.
"Violating this law is what is popularly known as espionage or spying".
You cannot arrest a FSB researcher in Moskou for charges of spying on the USA. It doesn't work that way.
Alleged fascist and suspected CIA asset
Tom Flanagan,
University of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta
Office: Social Sciences 706
Email: tflanaga AT ucalgary.ca
Phone: (403) 220-8225
"this has a ball"
Yes, fascinating.
But it lacks the connection to sex-crime, 1984 and censorship that i thought was so fitting to this story. Also, the music is better in my clip, and no hablar espanol ; ).
In a statement earlier this month, Assange’s British counsel said that his client repeatedly offered to cooperate with local investigators while he was in Sweden, and has offered to answer questions remotely from Britain since then.
“All of these offers have been flatly refused by a prosecutor who is abusing her powers by insisting that he return to Sweden at his own expense to be subjected to another media circus that she will orchestrate,” wrote attorney Mark Stephens. “Pursuing a warrant in this circumstance is entirely unnecessary and disproportionate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcTP7YWPayU
I've seen these arguments repeatedly, and i think they're a load of bollocks.
Yeah, the CIA would never assassinate anybody.
And if they really wanted to it would be like "hey, presto". And if they don't the target must be a CIA operative (UBL, Fidel Castro).
How do you know the last leak was the largest ever? My guess would be a crystal ball with the "seeing the future" option.
"another country that doesn't have any problem getting their hands dirty". Haha bloody ha.
Although i'm afraid you're serious.