Here's how. Join Telestra as a 'phone drone. Demand a copy of the source for the modified OS that you'r eusing. If they refuse, instruct the kernel/app rights owners that Telestra are violating the GPL. If they give it to you, distribute it. They must license their modifications under the GPL, and that gives you the right to distribute, regardless of whether they want you to or not. They cannot attach a license or terms that override the GPL, or else they are in violation.
Oh, they'd sack and sue the crap out of you for breach of whatever, but I'm sure there's a stuuuudent or filthy socialist hippy out there willing to take them on.
If they make mods, they must license their modded code under GPL. They don't have to release the source outside their company, but if it, er, accidentally leaked out, there's not a damn thing that they could do to stop anyone from using it under those terms. Sure, they could sue the crap out of the leaker for breach of custard (or whatever), but they couldn't put the genie back in the bottle, something SCO is going to find out the hard way.
Another interesting point for debate. If an internal employee asked for the source to the modified OS, would Telestra have to make it available? Under the terms of the GPL, they must. Once you've got it, you can - again, under the GPL - distribute it without reference to whether Telestra allows you to or note. Anyone care to put it to the test?
a) True, but read what the article says. They've trialed Linux desktops. They want to cut costs by half. If Microsoft called them up and offered them a 40% reduction in costs, I'd expect them to snap it up in a second.
b) If they switch.
c) Based on what? Why won't they just use Open/Star Office's.doc capabilities?
d) They're not running it en masse yet. RTFArticle.
A big story would be Telestra rolling out Linux desktops. Telestra saying that they're going to do it is a very different matter.
At the risk of sharing too much, if you took the right kind of German porn and the right sort of German girl, you might come up with some ideas that would obviate the need for a toilet.
>[Journalist] have a duty of responsibility to ensure that data of limited significance is not represented as some twisted interpretation of a coming apocalypse.
Yes, that's the first clause in the Oath they all swear. No, wait... journalists are just paying their mortgages same as everyone else. Say, how many ads did you get served while discussing this story?
You'd think, wouldn't you? And yet I'm still going to get shredded by foaming lunix zealots who can't tell the difference between criticism of an article and criticism of the software it references. Also on the long term plan, comprehension of the phrase "UNUSABLE FOR WINDOWS!"
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So, you're saying that you don't understand the difference between a player and a codec? Say, you wouldn't be one of those "win doors" users I keep a-hearing about?
Fine, but aren't my grandkids going to catch it in the shorts in 2078? The reason I mention this is because I think that - Hollywood aside - it's about 909,000:1 that we even could get our act together in time to do anything about a 2014 event, but we might be able to effect a 2078 one. That means we really should be looking that far into the future, rather than worrying about events that should, as far as I'm concerned, be talked about in future perfect tense ("after the asteroid will have missed/hit the earth...").
A patch doesn't have to be a delta though. Some (admittedly older) game cracks just modify the original exe by replacing a jump with a noop or a different jump. Perhaps K++ could do something similar, although as it's aimed at removing the spyware before it hits, that might bugger the point of it.
No, mplayer does fuck all. The codecs - if you install them, which presupposes that you know what a codec is - do as much as you can do with Windows Media Player.
Is there really so much confusion over this issue? Joe Windows is a cretin. He doesn't use the auto update feature built in to the OS. What chance has he got of figuring out that the reason he can't watch BangBus #42 is because he needs to download RalphVideo 3.21 and BobsAudio 0.0.3.2.1?
Once again we're confusing two issues. I use and like mplayer, and I'm glad to see a new version. But there's nothing here for Joe Windows, and I'm calling bullshit on the article body.
Because despite being too fucking dumb to patch known vulnerabilities, every Suzy Homemaker and Carrie Cubicle has a compiler and the ability to use it.
Look, I'm thrilled that Mplayer has gone through yet another refactoring, but let's not pee our pants thinking that this release if a replacement for Windoze Meedja Playa. Six months or a year down the line, when we have a one-click installer package that downloads codecs, then we might start getting excited about it. Until then, it's just another of those wacky lunix projects that does half of what the Microsoft/Windows equivelant does, if you've got the knowledge and patience to figure out how to compile it.
You may now explain why I'm a cynical moron, but I'll be too busy monitoring Blaster traffic to pay much attention.
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Here's how. Join Telestra as a 'phone drone. Demand a copy of the source for the modified OS that you'r eusing. If they refuse, instruct the kernel/app rights owners that Telestra are violating the GPL. If they give it to you, distribute it. They must license their modifications under the GPL, and that gives you the right to distribute, regardless of whether they want you to or not. They cannot attach a license or terms that override the GPL, or else they are in violation.
Oh, they'd sack and sue the crap out of you for breach of whatever, but I'm sure there's a stuuuudent or filthy socialist hippy out there willing to take them on.
If they make mods, they must license their modded code under GPL. They don't have to release the source outside their company, but if it, er, accidentally leaked out, there's not a damn thing that they could do to stop anyone from using it under those terms. Sure, they could sue the crap out of the leaker for breach of custard (or whatever), but they couldn't put the genie back in the bottle, something SCO is going to find out the hard way.
Another interesting point for debate. If an internal employee asked for the source to the modified OS, would Telestra have to make it available? Under the terms of the GPL, they must. Once you've got it, you can - again, under the GPL - distribute it without reference to whether Telestra allows you to or note. Anyone care to put it to the test?
a) True, but read what the article says. They've trialed Linux desktops. They want to cut costs by half. If Microsoft called them up and offered them a 40% reduction in costs, I'd expect them to snap it up in a second.
b) If they switch.
c) Based on what? Why won't they just use Open/Star Office's .doc capabilities?
d) They're not running it en masse yet. RTFArticle.
A big story would be Telestra rolling out Linux desktops. Telestra saying that they're going to do it is a very different matter.
Are you saying that black people can't do particle physics? You are a racist, sir, a racist.
I'm not sure, but if you read the previous Slashdot article about this technology, you might find an answer. Sigh.
We reported it twice.
Ah, but the Hungarians, unlike any other nation on the planet, are a proud and independent people.
Pretty, much.
No, your momma.
Must be budget renewal time.
At the risk of sharing too much, if you took the right kind of German porn and the right sort of German girl, you might come up with some ideas that would obviate the need for a toilet.
>[Journalist] have a duty of responsibility to ensure that data of limited significance is not represented as some twisted interpretation of a coming apocalypse.
Yes, that's the first clause in the Oath they all swear. No, wait... journalists are just paying their mortgages same as everyone else. Say, how many ads did you get served while discussing this story?
Well, they can object to it all they like, so long as they agree that we can eat them first after the thing hits.
Perhaps if the asteroid stands on one leg and blindfolds itself it can get it up to a round million.
Might be hard to scare up the funding. On the other hand, where on Earth is Osama bin Laden hiding? Might be best to cut down his options, eh?
Good point. If I know my technology, it's only going to work on version 3.
You'd think, wouldn't you? And yet I'm still going to get shredded by foaming lunix zealots who can't tell the difference between criticism of an article and criticism of the software it references. Also on the long term plan, comprehension of the phrase "UNUSABLE FOR WINDOWS!"
Sorry for the interruption. Normal service may now be resumed.
A few points things:
I'm not an admin. I said I'm monitoring it, not that I'm responsible for stopping it.
Am I stupid? It "retorspect", probably, for replying to an anonymous coward. IHBT.
So, you're saying that you don't understand the difference between a player and a codec? Say, you wouldn't be one of those "win doors" users I keep a-hearing about?
Fine, but aren't my grandkids going to catch it in the shorts in 2078? The reason I mention this is because I think that - Hollywood aside - it's about 909,000:1 that we even could get our act together in time to do anything about a 2014 event, but we might be able to effect a 2078 one. That means we really should be looking that far into the future, rather than worrying about events that should, as far as I'm concerned, be talked about in future perfect tense ("after the asteroid will have missed/hit the earth...").
Natalie Portman.
Carrie-Anne Moss.
Liv Tyler.
Jennifer Garner.
Cowboy Neal.
It's 909,000:1 that it will miss us, but there's only a 50:50 chance that's right.
A patch doesn't have to be a delta though. Some (admittedly older) game cracks just modify the original exe by replacing a jump with a noop or a different jump. Perhaps K++ could do something similar, although as it's aimed at removing the spyware before it hits, that might bugger the point of it.
No, mplayer does fuck all. The codecs - if you install them, which presupposes that you know what a codec is - do as much as you can do with Windows Media Player.
Is there really so much confusion over this issue? Joe Windows is a cretin. He doesn't use the auto update feature built in to the OS. What chance has he got of figuring out that the reason he can't watch BangBus #42 is because he needs to download RalphVideo 3.21 and BobsAudio 0.0.3.2.1?
Once again we're confusing two issues. I use and like mplayer, and I'm glad to see a new version. But there's nothing here for Joe Windows, and I'm calling bullshit on the article body.
Because despite being too fucking dumb to patch known vulnerabilities, every Suzy Homemaker and Carrie Cubicle has a compiler and the ability to use it.
Look, I'm thrilled that Mplayer has gone through yet another refactoring, but let's not pee our pants thinking that this release if a replacement for Windoze Meedja Playa. Six months or a year down the line, when we have a one-click installer package that downloads codecs, then we might start getting excited about it. Until then, it's just another of those wacky lunix projects that does half of what the Microsoft/Windows equivelant does, if you've got the knowledge and patience to figure out how to compile it.
You may now explain why I'm a cynical moron, but I'll be too busy monitoring Blaster traffic to pay much attention.