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MPlayer 1.0Pre1 Is Here
bfree writes "Now on your favourite mplayer mirror you can find the 1.0Pre1 release of Mplayer! While work is underway on a second-generation version of Mplayer, I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them now that the one player to rule them all now has (preview) support for their OS (I've only looked at a precompiled command line version on Windows but it handled everything I threw at it so far except DVDs). Big changes include Windows (via mingw32 and cygwin) ports, as well as Mac OS X (with extra-accurate Darwin timers). Now if only all those legal questions would go away, perhaps we could have a new killer Free Software application to save people installing Real, Quicktime and Windows Media Player (on Linux!?) or perhaps it's the one application to finally tell the **AA where the world wants to go today!"
Duh, you don't use gmplayer in KDE, you use mplayer or kplayer instead.
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It would be nice to see some of MPlayer's source code merged with another project, Media Player Classic.
.. would be a feature that could play DVDs from any region on Windows regardless of how many changes the OS thinks you've got left. Currently, even if your DVD-Rom is region-free, Windows XP and 2000 are real swines when it comes to standing in the way of region-free playback.
moving towards Free software. I have Firebird and Thunderbird and a Free file player was next on my list. so horray. but where do I get it?
Mplayer rule them all? Yeah right, I guess Linux that zealots haven't ever heard Zoom Player. (It rules already)
Zoom Player
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To think, just hours before, I spend hours compiling Mplayer 0.91 and all of its codecs and deps! Well, at least I know what to do next time.
Patent: from Latin patere, to be open
mplayer will never be free of legal questions. Too many libs are bundled with it, and I for one am glad about it! Compiling multimedia applications can be a major pain in the youknowwhat with all those library dependencies. Mplayer bundles the more important libs (liba52, libavcodec aka ffmpeg, and now even faad2). This makes the build process far more reliable and definitely easier.
But what would mplayer look like without all those libs? Well just take a look at the mplayer versions shipped with major distros. They're crippled, can't play most popular/modern files, and almost everyone has to download other uncrippled binaries or compile from source. I fully understand why no mplayer developer, me included, cares about legality.
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Unfortunately I only saw the Linux player there and source. I believe the OSX binary is still the July version. So there may be a delay before it is available.
OSX MPlayer
.. the ability to save streaming content straight to HD wouldn't go amiss either.
mingw and cygwin dependencies could be statically linked into the mplayer exe and modules DLLs, wouldn't they?
you don't need to compile cygwin or mingw. simply download the windows version of mplayer and use it.
(btw. cygwin is the 'hack' (posix-emulation layer in an 1MB dll file) you are talking about. mingw creates 'pure' win32 applications)
I agree gmplayer is a very poor interface.
I much prefer Totem - although that's Gtk+ based.
You could try KPlayer or eMotion - the only KDE/Qt alternatives I'm aware of.
Or <flamebait>you could just switch to a better desktop</flamebait> - the perfect time now that the 2.4 release is imminent!
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Xine? (Well in my opinion, xine is too buggy, crashes on most files and its gui sucks)
Videolan? (I never tried it)
Kmplayer? (The KDE port of mplayer, its got lovely kde goodness)
Gstreamer? (Well gstreamer is just the library, but it has gst-player and totem as guis, but the library is still in beta, but stabler than Xine)
Ogle?
Xmovie?
RealPlayer (linux version)?
I don't have time to try it now, so id like some opinions.
For Windows, I would suggest using Media Player Classic. It's made to look like the good, light and fast Media Player 6.4 but it includes support for all the new codecs (including an automatic search from the web if you feed it a video with uninstalled codec) and has a ton of nice features. The updates come rather regularly.
I don't know about this new mplayer on Windows, but the 0.9 at least was very slow on my computer. On FreeBSD it works fine.
This amazes me. I hadn't tried either of these for a year or more. Last week my girlfriend and I were surfing porn, and because she's so ignorant about these thing, she wanted to download some movies. They were WMPs, and I told her we probably couldn't play them, but that I'd try anyway. I tried mplayer first, because slashdot is always raving about it, and it handled the WMPs, so we went surfing for everything we could find -- I must've had six or more formats downloaded by the time we finished. I was amazed by mplayer, and Goy took me upstairs to practice what we had seen. Surfing porn makes her so horny
Anyway, two days later, I decided to let Goy look at the files again. I was in the lab, and it has only xterms with no xv extension, so I tried all the movies with xine. It's a little painful with a 10Mb/s network card, but they all worked, just as mplayer did. Goy pulled my pants down and started on me right there.
God Bless Mplayer and Xine!
True story, not inflammatory rhetoric
Put identity in the browser.
I tried this half an hour ago on my Powerbook 12". GCC exploded and segfaulted in a flood of error messages about some altivec-optimization. Guess I'll wait until 1.0-final :)
if you consider, that hungary is a very little country, with as little as 10 million inhabitants. guess how many of em are technocrats and freaks.
then remember that it used to be behind the iron curtain and under communistic influence.
and still, hungary gave the world quite a lot of bright and intelligent people and famous folks who changed the world we live in today....
If you want to see some windows-users' jaws drop, wait until one of them complains he cannot see some movie or the subtitles and show them one of the jukebox-on-a-CD linux distributions based on mplayer.
They boot, they play. No installing, no fuzz.
They can play anything mplayer 9x Can.
You know the simultaneous best and worst thing about GNU/Linux/OSS etc is there is always another option...
There was a new beta of Totem released yesterday too - it's a GNOME 2 media player based on Xine (it doesn't attempt to reinvent the wheel). The author is also working on a Gstreamer back end for it.
Why do I like it? A quote on their webpage sums it up: "Totem is the only media player I've seen that doesn't attempt to have skins or look like a reject from a 1971 Kenwood catalog." For those of us who like Windows Media Player (pre 8) for its clean and consistent interface and were annoying that Linux doesn't have anything like it, Totem's your project.
Mplayer does some files better than Totem, but if you want to do more than "mplayer This.divx", check it out.
(standard "I have nothing to do with this project other than thinking it's really cool" disclaimer)
Throwaway Question that will Undoubtedly Get Dozens of Answers while the Rest of the Post Goes Unread: Why doesn't Mplayer disable XScreensaver while playing?)
I can watch my pron on any system.
(Ya mod's, hate me cause i'm a perve!)
Nope. While you don't have to compile Mingw or Cygwin, you do have to compile mplayer.
You forget they're the group that vehemently disavows any binary distribution.
So to use mplayer on windows you have to maintain Mingw, Cygwin, and possibly GTK+ as well.
Thus there's zero incentive to use it.
...when I submitted a story a couple months ago about how mplayer now has windows support nobody seemed interested. It's not like this is a new feature of the 1.x version...
If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation?
I know exactly what you mean. Sascha (my goat) and I were surfing pr0n last month and we found a link to a clip in .FLI format (remember that one? gawd damn). Anyway there was nothing on Windoze that could read it so I gave mplayer a shot, and damn! but if it didn't play it off perfectly. Sascha was pretty lubricated at this point and she started tugging at her leash, that usually means she wants to head out to the barn for some action. So we did. mplayer rules this fucking world.
You forget they're the group that vehemently disavows any binary distribution.
You forget this issue was settled a while ago.
How many hours did you waste while you wrote yet another skinned user interface? How many hours did you waste with Gimp while you made all those nifty default skins? How many hours of everyone elses time do you waste when people despreately install new skins in order to find the one that is even remotely usable?
GUI widget sets are there to make it easy for programmers and designers to make user interfaces that are consistent and easy to learn. By implementing your very own eye candy skin framework you undermine all the hard work made by all those smart people.
This is not a troll. Go read a book or two about user interface design.
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OMG - Mplayer just gets better and better, It already rocked - Now the mplayer team is doing somethin more. I hereby banish WMP to HELL
In terms of playing various movie types, mplayer does twice as much as Windows Media Player.
It is called Media Player Classic. It's hosted on sourceforge and is open source! It also conviently doesn't include Quicktime or Real codec's but a quick search on google for Quicktime Alternative and Real Alternative gives you those codecs! It can play everything provided you have the proper codec installed including DVDs so everyone on windows enjoy. Appropriate links follow below:
Media Player Classic
Real Alternative
Quicktime Alternative
I dont beleive you!
I mean - being able to read ALL those formats - gettoutahere!!
As for Girlfriend - can you tell me where I can download one - preferbaly a RPM?
For OS X, I spent an age trying to get various codecs working in Quicktime to view variously encoded episodes of Curb Your Enthusiasm which probably won't be aired in the UK before 2005. The recent Mac DivX codecs solved a lot of these, but I didn't like the fact that they came in an installer package - I try to stick to drag-installs on the Mac so I know what's where. Then I gave VLC (http://www.videolan.org/) a try, and in OS X at least, it works like a charm. I haven't found anything it won't run yet, it plays DVDs without any region checking (provided your firmware is fixed), and it handles VCDs to boot. It really does do everything I need it to in a proper one-app drag install, and it's GPL. Definitly worth a look for Apple users - which isn't to say Mplayer isn't worthy, too.
I've downloaded a couple of monts ago a windows binary of mplayer. It didn't played any divx I threw at it... It just kept "saying your machine is too slow to play this file". I agree with jkeyes and Zarhan: the best way to watch movies in Windows is through the mighty Media Payer Classic.
As for Girlfriend - can you tell me where I can download one - preferbaly a RPM?
Idno about the RPM,
but you could try searching google for ".DEB does dallas"
Keep your Xine....
Mplayer is built right. A command line player and a GUI that is seperate.
That way mplayer can be used as a part of a larger project... freevo ring a bell?
It blows my mind how many projects for linux are rendered useless for many uses simply because the programmers think that the GUI MUST be a part of the app...
It doesn't and makes your program less useful.
mplayer is the best player out for linux. Until you can seperate the gui out of Xine easily at compile time... Xine cant even compete....
Do not look at laser with remaining good eye.
No, mplayer does fuck all. The codecs - if you install them, which presupposes that you know what a codec is - do as much as you can do with Windows Media Player.
Is there really so much confusion over this issue? Joe Windows is a cretin. He doesn't use the auto update feature built in to the OS. What chance has he got of figuring out that the reason he can't watch BangBus #42 is because he needs to download RalphVideo 3.21 and BobsAudio 0.0.3.2.1?
Once again we're confusing two issues. I use and like mplayer, and I'm glad to see a new version. But there's nothing here for Joe Windows, and I'm calling bullshit on the article body.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
In all fairness, calling it MPlayer probably wasn't the greatest idea. They might as well have called it "Real Quick MPlayer", just to annoy everyone else.
Simple solution... Use mplayer. No GUI needed. Works great, and it's very easy once you learn a couple keyboard controls.
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Apart from a buggy internal mpeg1 decoder in the last build (6.4.6.0), it's been working perfectly. Just disable that though and it'll return to whatever codec you have installed. It plays anything I've been able to throw at it apart from one mysterious .wmv file it *should* have been able to play. Let the rest of the world skin their player, I'll take MPC and play the vid in full screen instead.
Kjella
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Who cares about "Joe Windows"? Let him use windows media player for fuck's sake.
Me, on the other hand, I'll use mplayer in Linux and FreeBSD and I'll be happy about it because it works like a charm and I'm not too stupid to get it working.
Mplayer does some files better than Totem, but if you want to do more than "mplayer This.divx", check it out.
Ah, but you forget about MPlayer G2, which will be stripped of all front-end nonsense and instead implement all kinds of hooks that will allow people to built however vast frontends for it.
Why doesn't Mplayer disable XScreensaver while playing?)
For the same reason it doesn't disable, I don't know, PINE or Mozilla. XScreensaver is just an application that happens to be running at the same time, not a standard in power saving. MPlayer does, however, disable DPMS monitor power saving which is what you should be using if you really want power saving instead of fancy pictures showed when nobody's looking anyway.
i ate crayons when i was a kid and now i have two braincells and the blue ones taste nicer
you aced it
discussion over
That was classic intercourse!
*puts on troll mask* erm... yeah... err... mplayer it like does the same stuff as xine but xine is better! yeah...
/. posts on xine/mplayer for the correct troll comments... watch this space*
oh. damn.
*checks previous
Rich
Let me think about that for a sec. Ummmmm.... No.
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Thanks for the reminder. I haven't checked out totem in a while since I reinstalled my system after a harddrive crash. I remember liking it but I also remember it freezing at random times and refusing to play several of the files that mplayer played no problem. Also, the fact that at that time mplayer played quicktime sorenson 3 and totem didn't was a real killer. But I'm heading over to the totem page right now to retrieve the latest source. About the screensaver thing, I'm not quite sure but I think mplayer does disable the screensaver, i just don't remember if it does it by default...Ok, found the option: Try mplayer -stop_xscreensaver movie.mov for all your screensaver free movie watching pleasure.
-AX
^I'm with stupid.^
I have to hand it to these guys. I've tried all the other gpl'd players and they don't come close to mplayer. It just works. Sound is good, video is good. The only thing I haven't got it doing is oggs and I think thats just cause I haven't compiled it in (playing wma's on it is good tho!). It is certainly one of the more interesting ones to compile from souce because of the libraries etc.. but once you get past that hey it's all good.
:)
Sure the interface needs some work, like a dockable playlist etc... but man... I'm still blown away... I think I need to sit down... I'm getting hot flashes just thinking about mplayer v1.0
Perhaps it's worth mentioning that Windows Media Player does not download divx? Perhaps it's also worth mentioning that "Joe Windows" somehow always manages to get hold of the divx codec anyway?
All the codecs are available for download off the mplayer site, along with the program itself. There's no problem here.
Another fantastic feature is that with mencoder you can convert crap closed formats such as QuickTime (yes, with the Sorensen codec) and RealMedia into a standard MPEG4 format like XviD.
No, sorry. The correct way to do it would be to build a complete framework using proper design and little things like shared libraries, object models and a decent IPC interface. That would allow you to properly use the code in other applications, without having to mess about trying to invoke and control an interactive command line application from another application. You can easily write a whole bunch of front-ends that all use the exact same backend, and the backend can be easily extended with plugins without breaking all those front-ends.
The only project I can think of that comes close on Linux is GStreamer, but its not widely used.
No doubt there will be several people now who want to tell me why a command line player only is better and why we now need Yet Another Media Player for Linux (How many do we have now, and how many of them still implement their own Sound Daemon?)
A GUI that does not work, crashes and just gets in the way. I'd rather use mplayer the way it was meant to be used: on a command line.
Do you even know that with mplayer comes a fully featured command line encoder that can cross-encode between any supported codec? You'd like to rip a DVD into a XviD or (god forbid) RealMedia? That takes one command line. No hassle with goddamn buttons, menus and dialogs.
Thats not the simple solution, thats the "crap" solution. Thats like telling someone to use TWM because they found KDE 3 a little flashy for their tastes.
from man mplayer
-stop_xscreensaver
Turns off xscreensaver at startup and turns it on again on exit.
And how do I use it then if I have a media machine with an IR mouse? For a home entertainment system this will not work.
(See MoviX^2 for the functionality that I require...)
I sense a LOT of 1337ist attitudes (grudges?) against the idea of using Mplayer on Win32.
Why? What's with that?
What ever happened to the ideal of free software for everyone INCLUDING convincing the unwashed Windoze masses of the superiority of FOSS?
The Mplayer software is absolutely brilliant, when running using the VESA driver (under bash), I managed to get my old Cel 500mhz laptop to play Dual-pass XVid at 30fps, without a problem. Plus the steady and all-in-one approach to drivers is a solution to the horrible driver mess that forms on any windows machine.
-Gwala
#!/bin/csh cat $0
And if you were to read the manpage you'd see there is an option for turning off xscreensaver, too.
I'm confused... help me out here.
:)
I installed xine-lib, and gxine, and kmplayer. I haven't installed xine-ui.
I have Xine installed.... without the Xine gui.
I have two different frontends to Xine.
So why do you say:
Until you can seperate the gui out of Xine easily at compile time... Xine cant even compete....
And how do you get moderated up for it?
By the way, I prefer mplayer
God yeah, the MCSE immedietely entitles idiots to spout their opinions from their unqualified (in the "real world") rear-end.
I have had 2 Induhviduals (who both work for the same entity) tell me on seperate occasions, that "A Network with equal rights and responsibilities between all clients [eg. refereneced was Gnutella]" Is actually a client/server situation, and not a peer to peer network. The other genius remarks include "Every network MUST have a Windows Domain, NO exceptions".
I really do wonder if most people were just born stupid, or if they were raised that way.
-Gwala
#!/bin/csh cat $0
There is also VLC, which is open source and very complete.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
okay ENOUGH!
how many god damn browsers, players, desktops, editors do we need?
I'm tired of seeing all this wasted talent just so GNOME or KDE can have thier own everything. swallow your damn pride and work together for crying out loud. True everyone has thier own tastes well here is a fucking revelation, code the fucking thing to be customizable. I understand why gnome was started and that makes sence but think of how good "knome" would be by now if there was only one.
You know what i'm an advocate of? I want to see a 'stability' year.. where EVERYONE freezes the fucking features and spends a complete year stabalizing, polishing thier work. Since OSS developers in alot of cases have no boss, they tend to want to move on to the next 'fun' feature.
well thats enough time spent on something you 'free thinkers' will just mod down as flamebait or offtopic.. keep dumping your heads in the sand that will make all the problems go away.
Why does everybody use the phrase 'it plays everything I have thrown at it' in the MPlayer context? It's not like there are no other ways of saying this...
HELLO!!! I thought this was slashdot!
You had to think about it for a second? Just what kind of raving KDE/OSX/Windoze/IceWM/Enlightenment/GNUStep fanatic are you?
Lumping QuickTime in with WMP and Real is pretty unfair. Where Quicktime provides a complete and sophisticated architecture for media manipulation as well as a completely open API that shows no platform preference across the desktop platforms (and the servier is available for nearly everything), Real and WMP use proprietary formats and are nothing but players with some very poorly designed and implemented media collection management tools. MPlayer is just another player, it is not in the same class of product as Quicktime.
If you go to:
http://www.freecodecs.com/
you'll find a few programs called Real Alternative and Quicktime Alternative. It has everything you need to replace your Real and Quicktime codecs plus it comes with a fairly recent version of Media Player Classic.
I tried it out and found that it worked and seeked better than RealPlayer.
anyone that wants to see the greatness of mplayer on windows, check out http://www.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/releases/win32-bet a/ and grab the mingw32-dev-CVS-... package. you can even add the realplayer and quicktime codecs from the download page and have real/quicktime working without having to install the horrible realplayer/quicktime players.
I don't know whether this was something intentional (i've been trying to find out) but somewhere in the last couple of minor releases I have no longer been able to play a group of files by doing 'mplayer *' on the command line. I have to make a playlist file and then play them.
While mplayer is an excellent piece of software for decoding video, mencoder (Encoding software) has a lot of bugs and limitations.
.mpg-Files fail, rebuilding indices also fail from time to time.
Simple things, like concatenating 2
Hopefully also the encoding part (also the documentation including examples) will improve.
There's another good KDE/QT player: Kaffeine http://members.chello.at/kaffeine/ is a Xine based player
Nice link. Here's one with a bit more overview: The keyword here is 'finno-ugric', which is the name of the language family to which Hungarian and Finnish (and a lot of other languages) belong.
The parent of this thread was mistaken about the peoples since there is no evidence that the Hungarian and Finnish peoples are related, just the languages; in fact the modern day Hungarians do not seem to be descended from any one distinct ethnicity. I'm too lazy too find links, but I'm sure the more industrious and curious among you can find something on the web.
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You just confused kplayer with klayer.
And Gnome uses Gplayer.
On the Mac however McPlayer rules,
but on Windows there is MsPlayer 2000.
If you have IceWM installed you must use
IcePlayer, but not iplayer which works only with
iPods.
Suse supports only the splayer and the MensaPlayer (for people with IQ > 120).
RedHat has additionally redplayer, which is also used by RedFlag Linux but called MaoPlayer there.
Debian has player.deb which is only textmode, with stop and play buttons reversed and was created in the year 1911.
FreeBSD and NetBSD have no player but ports for all other players. However, these ports will try to download 50 Gbyte from non-existing URLs and then crash with some compiler errors.
OpenBSD has an own secure player called OpenPlayer which is so secure that it will refuse to load any songs, won't accept any users commands and the binary will not be excutable.
Solaris has no player, but they accounced that they will port Gplayer soon.
And finally UnixWare has no player, too, but SCO claims that everybody is using their player because they where all based on cat hello.wav >/dev/snd.
I think it's more a matter of telling the **AA where they can shove it.
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That would be my girlfriend. She is Thai. Read my journal for the specifics.
Put identity in the browser.
Now the million dollar question: Why isn't this the default?
It does. From the mplayer manpage,
So, you're saying that you don't understand the difference between a player and a codec? Say, you wouldn't be one of those "win doors" users I keep a-hearing about?
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
"Totem is the only media player I've seen that doesn't attempt to have skins or look like a reject from a 1971 Kenwood catalog."
That's the biggest appeal to the commandline players for me. I absolutely hate "skinned" apps. I don't use Windows styles or themes on my Windows machines, I don't even have wallpaper on any of my machines. So, when I see new media players that not only don't have standard interfaces, but don't even have standard *shapes*, there's no way I'm using them.
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A few points things:
I'm not an admin. I said I'm monitoring it, not that I'm responsible for stopping it.
Am I stupid? It "retorspect", probably, for replying to an anonymous coward. IHBT.
If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them...
Windows-based friends...mmmmmm...lucky you. I dont have any...They think I am weird..antisocial..and smell funky. I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them now that the one player to rule them all...that looks strange
Shouldn't it be:
I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them....,(viriware).Now that one player to rule them all now has (preview) support for their OS, (so we all know the mess they live in).
Hey, I just got up!! give me som ||..||..||..||(hands).
You'd think, wouldn't you? And yet I'm still going to get shredded by foaming lunix zealots who can't tell the difference between criticism of an article and criticism of the software it references. Also on the long term plan, comprehension of the phrase "UNUSABLE FOR WINDOWS!"
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If you were blocking sigs, you wouldn't have to read this.
This amazes me. I hadn't tried either of these (mplayer or xine) for a year or more. Last week my girlfriend and I were surfing porn, and because she's so ignorant about these thing, she wanted to download some movies. They were WMPs, and I told her we probably couldn't play them, but that I'd try anyway. I tried mplayer first, because slashdot is always raving about it, and it handled the WMPs, so we went surfing for everything we could find -- I must've had six or more formats downloaded by the time we finished. I was amazed by mplayer, and Goy took me upstairs to practice what we had seen. Surfing porn makes her so horny.
Anyway, two days later, I decided to let Goy look at the files again. I was in the lab, and it has only xterms with no xv extension, so I tried all the movies with xine. It's a little painful with a 10Mb/s network card, but they all worked, just as mplayer did. Goy pulled my pants down and started on me right there.
God Bless Mplayer and Xine!
True story, not inflammatory rhetoric
Mod me as you will...
Put identity in the browser.
Is there a version for Windows too??? I hate to think since I'm running the 'inferior' OS that I'd be left out of the great revolution that could occur by my deleting of Windows Media Player, Quicktime, and all other associated annoyances.
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
If there is a Windows version, where is it on the site? I didn't see it there.
The price is always right if someone else is paying.
>I have already fired off emails to my Windows-based friends to let them now that the one
I like and use MPlayer, but if I was using Windows I would find this hell of annoying. Would you like it if your friends sent you a mass email everytime a new version of a Windows program came out?
The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
> Or you could just switch to a better desktop - the perfect time now that the 2.4 release is imminent!
Too bad KDE 3.2 alpha1 is coming out in a few weeks (and beta1 in a month) to steal your users away! muahahahhahaha.
Play the Half-Life2 Blink videos.
The surprise isn't how often we make bad choices; the surprise is how seldom they defeat us.
> Do you swing?
No stfu. I will not listen to your utterly sick sexual fantasies. It's just me and my goat, pal.
> Keep your Xine....
> Mplayer is built right. A command line player and > a GUI that is seperate.
Uh, xine already does this. It even does it better than mplayer since the non-GUI part is a shared library.
As a result, most of the mplayer frontends are pretty hackishly done. They often have to make elaborate layers between themselves and mplayer. It's much easier to do with xine.
You can also try kmplayer, which is included with kde's extragear packages.
I personally like kplayer the best.. I think they are adding xine to that too.
MPlayer have a bunch of good and useful "hidden" (as in you have not yet read the man/info page) features, my favorit is -dumpstream to grab video files and trailers of the net. :)
Carbon based humanoid in training.
And are interested in using cvs builds you might want to try mplayer-update. Matroska support has only been available in cvs for a while now so I've been running this has been a big help for since I've been using matroska for my tv captures since around the time of its release.
Everything will be taken away from you.
Let's see you encode with xine....
and I have yet to find a command line interface for xine...
so again, it's useless for any multimedia projects...
mplayer can be embedded into a portable tivo type device that does not have X windows even installed...
xine requires the X libs....
BSplayer is a nice fast, compact media player for windows. It does divx, avi, mp3, ogg vorbis and some other formats rather well. In fact when I couldn't get some divx movies to run without massive frame skips in windows media player and "the playa", I tried BSplayer on advice from a message board and got wonderful results. www.bsplayer.org
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And for the many users of Mandrake, MPlayer with the proper codecs (and many other good programs) are available as rpms at PLF
Because I don't want _any_ application kill/suspend any other without my explicit "order" to do so ?
I have videos running (in a small window in a corner) all day and when I leave my desk I don't stop mplayer, but won't my notebook to autolock!!
If you want it as default, just put it into your ~/.mplayer/config and forget about it.
On the other side of the screen it all looked so easy.
I just switched back from KDE to Gnome.
KDE has tons of nice features, and Konqueror is a great file manager, but it was just too much for what I need. I don't use a file manager that much, so KDE's biggest asset is lost on me. I don't use the ruler program, I don't use most of that stuff. Gnome is lighter and faster, the GTK2 applications are more stable than the KDE counterprts (Gaim is the best instant messanger client from what I've seen, and it speaks every popular protocol.), Gimp is the best photoeditor, Firebird is the best browser, Gnumeric is the best spreadsheet, etc.
Nice troll, very nice. Ever heard of KMPlayer? That's a GUI for MPlayer in KDE, which is also -very- lightweight. There's also gmplayer, you know..the one actually included in the MPlayer distribution. Oh, and by the way, both of those programs disable XScreensaver while playing a video; for the command line version to do it, you would have to provide the option for it to do so. Not that I think you've actually tried that recently.
Throwaway question that will undoubtedly go unanswered, since you were just trying to cause troule anyway; does Totem have anything like mplayer-plugin, a browser plugin that allows you to play inline videos using MPlayer in numerous different browsers?
Unless you require a scrollbar to navigate a movie, MPlayer generally works well when you associate it with Nautilus. I double-click on a thumbnail for a movie (generated by Gnome-Thumbnail-Factory) and MPlayer launches with the movie. I run it without the GUI though, so I merely use the arrow keys to navigate the movie, SPACE to pause, Q to quit.
It's true though, that MPlayer's GUI is sucky. I wish that they'd just use a standard GTK based deal, and not some rediculous XMMS/Winamp sort of skin, which by the way also drastically increases the CPU load when playing video files. I've thought of writing a better GUI for MPlayer, but I just don't know enough about GTK programming. Lumiere is a great project, but I've not been able to get it to compile because it is beta code (and is for some reason heavily dependant on specific system configurations and file locations).
What do you mean, "how"?
I am able to use it perfectly, with my remote control.
All the docs say is that it starts up and launches gmplayer. Doesn't tell me what you think you need.
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MPlayer is fully functional without any GUI. So what's wrong with using it without a GUI then?
I think people are determined to use MPlayer (and everything else) from a GUI, just because that's what they've been used-to in the Windows and Mac world... NOT because there is any legitimate reason to do so.
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At least they weren't shut down by the Environmental Protection Agency
Can you imagine how bad a media play would have to be to be considered an environmental hazard?
Explain that to my mother, or my grandmother. Trust me, they need big graphical buttons.. my mother doesn't even know which buttons are play and stop on her VCR unless there are words to describe them.
Please try to play something with the xscreensaver stopper and -vo sdl, it will segfault :-(
Xine already does these things for Linux. Uninstall your old version of xine, then go to http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/ and get the latest build. Plays QT6 files, divx, WMP, DVDs, etc. Also works much better for Freevo if you're into that. RPMs only here (wish the source would be out to manually compile, but oh well). Works on RH9, Mandrake 9.1, and SuSe.
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But gstreamer and xine are both shared libraries, gstreamer even has a python binding. This works out a LOT better for writing frontends.
:)
The truth is that Mplayer's only redeeming attribute is the fact it can play just about anything, provided it is compiled right.
I just hope that Xine and/or gstreamer catch up quickly
concatenating mpegs is trivial.
.avi files, use avimerge:
1. cat 1.mpeg 2.mpeg > big.mpeg
2. mencoder -idx big.mpeg -ovc copy -oac copy -o mybignice.mpeg
There, that wasn't too hard was it.
For
avimerge -i 1.avi 2.avi -o big.avi
This is what happens when you post offtopic. The parent was modded as flaimbait, so I don't see it (by choice). Here we have a reply that really has nothing to do with media players and I end up lumping him in with the two idiots he's putting down :-)
Throwaway Question that will Undoubtedly Get Dozens of Answers while the Rest of the Post Goes Unread: Why doesn't Mplayer disable XScreensaver while playing?)
Try the option -stop_xscreensaver.
Hanno
I use MPlayer from version v0.1.18 as I recall.. and it didn't want to play all the formats back then.. I had to reboot to windows from time to time to watch videos.. now I do opposite, cause watching videos on windows really sux.. either no sound, jumpy display or both.. sux big time!
Under linux I just fire mplayer (and ogle for DVDs) and done! can watch and what also importatnt I can fucking scroll/seek in WMA/WMF/WMSHIT formats.. which I can't do under windows using windows media player.. !
does no one use bsplayer???
"best divx player ever" -divx-digest
chex it out, looks a helluva lot nicer than vlc
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Yawn!
In the meantime Windows users already have all of that in Media Player Classic. Open-source, built-in MPEG-1 and MPEG-2 (DVD) playback, QuickTime and Real playback, etc.
What I really need is Xinerama support, so when I play movies on my dual head setup I can choose which monitor to fullscreen the movie on. As it is, it splits it between the two and leaves the outer half of each monitor showing the desktop.
I would love to be able to use MPlayer on my OS X box. The interface, however, is one of the worst example of bad design I think I have ever seen. The program truly has to be seen on OS X to see how bad it is.
Opening a movie opens the movie in another running program. The controls, on the other hand, are still in the original mplayer application.
Menus are empty and unusable in the movie's application.
There are other problems, these are just the major ones.
Until Mplayer fixes some very serious UI issues in the OS X version, my money (figuratively) is with VLC. VLC also does one required thing - plays movies in full screen on one screen, while allowing me to work on another application on another screen. Mplayer takes over all monitors when in full-screen.
In order to be accepted across the board, GPL software needs to remember UI. Maybe Mplayer is better on other platforms. It still has a long way to go under OS X.
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or perhaps, using it in a gui environment it isn't unreasonable for them to expect to control it with a gui as well?
maybe I'm just crazy though...
I did the install from the RPM's on the MPlayer site instead of doing my own build, they have lots of dependencies, some apparently circular, so installing everything from one rpm command seems to work best. The one library that I didn't already have on my system and wasn't in the RPM's was libfaad, which I quickly found with a little Googling.
The only other setup I had to do to get MPlayer working was that it expects the DVD drive to be /dev/dvd by default, so I made a symlink for that. MPlayer also lets you set the DVD drive via the settings menu or a command line switch, so this is not a big deal
The DVD I watched was Disney's "Beauty and the Beast". Yes, I know, evil company. Playing title 1, chapter 1 only showed a Walt Disney logo then playback stopped. I tried various other titles until finally discovering Title 17 was the movie itself. I didn't figure out how to bring up the main DVD menu, which would have hopefully made figuring out where on the disc the movie was trivial.
Playback was initially jerky and poor. Toggling a couple of the playback / frame dropping options fixed this and playback became flawless on my system.
I did experience some cryptic error messages and a couple crashes (application crashes, not lockups) so I would characterize MPlayer as very usable but not completely stable.
As far as user interface, it was good, and similar in layout to Windows Media Player and such. My main complain about the GUI was that many of the buttons are labelled only with a symbol, and hovering the mouse pointer over them did not bring up any kind of help bubble to explain them, so using the GUI involved more trial and error than it should have.
The other feature I tried out was MP3 playback. It sounded good, but when I associated MP3's in Nautilis with MPlayer and clicked on a second MP3 while the first was playing, it didn't switch songs or enqueue, but rather started up a second instance of MPlayer playing a different song at the same time, which sounded terrible. I'm sure there's a way to fix this (if nothing else, a shell script wrapper would work), but compared to WinAmp doing things right from the start, it still came as a disappointment.
I haven't tried the other features out (skins, encoding, etc.) but all in all, I was impressed with what I have seen so far. For people looking to play DVD's and other types of media under Linux, MPlayer is well worth downloading.
If anything deserves to be mentioned along with mplayer, it's Xine. In fact, I think it's been better than mplayer for quite a while now.
Has anybody ever gotten hardware AC3 passthrough working with Mplayer, Alsa, and an Audigy? I get:
/dev/snd/pcmC0D3p failed: No such device
#mplayer -ao alsa9 -ac hwac3 foo.vob
ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:1055:(snd_pcm_hw_open) open
even with DevFS mounted...
It's a bummer not to be able to listen to DVDs with *proper* Dolby Digital AC3, gotta boot to Winders like a chump! This is my biggest Linux-wart at the moment.
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Then why on my iBook does the About MPlayer window list the version as MPlayer OS X version 2 (v2.0b5)?
Mplayer comes with 'mencode' for creating video streams, and also a script for using it to create VCD's from any source that Mplayer can play. For fun last night, I managed to use it to convert a RealPlayer video to a VCD on a CDRW, and was pleasantly surprised to find that it played perfectly in my Magnavox DVD player.
This is one nice set of tools.
Can either Mplayer or Xine handle any of the digital rights management systems?
Why not? This would be a setting that around 99% of mplayer's users would find preferable. How about "if you don't want it as a default, just put it into your ~/.mplayer/config and forget about it," seeing as how loads of mplayer users are probably coming from Windows/Mac environments in which something so stupid and/or highly specialized as that would never be the default. These is a video player we're dealing with here, not a god damn philosophy of the civil liberties of software processes.
So what's wrong with using it without a GUI then? Nothing - that's why I never compile it with a GUI.
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Does anyone have experience with the MPlayer on the Solaris, AIX or IRIX? I'm curious on how the MPlayer performs on Solaris 9 on an Ultrasparc 64-bit CPU. Can it play DiVX or XViD schmoodly as in a Duron system?
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Maybe I'm missing something, but can someone post a link to the OS X port?
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For an OSX app, the interface is still messy.. easily fixable, but messy.
Why does the playlist a drawer come out of the control widget? If the widget is hidden, I can select "Playlist" from the menu, but it doesn't pop up.
It should be a simple, resizeable window that I can organize quickly.
The player widget is visually unappealing. I don't mean I want real eyecandy.. but it's fugly.
I can't drag & drop a media file onto either the player widget or the video window.. that just does nothing. You have to actually drag to the launch icon on the dock (or wherever you have it).
There seems to be no reason. I suppose it's OSS, though, right? I can probably go grab the sources and fix it myself, right?
It would be difficult to recommend something that 'will' exist over something that 'does' exist for someone wanting a gui now. The fact is, Totem is available now, and it works.
From the man page:
-stop_xscreensaver
Turns off xscreensaver at startup and turns it on
again on exit.
Only a linux geek would be impressed with having to hand DL libs, config config and config some more just to get it to work, then have it crash a couple of times.
I can't remember the last time I used a product on Windows that was that bad, not even Windows itself since leaving 98 behind. And this is an "impressive" Linux app? Brother.
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I can tell you one big advantage of the GUI: better control of the video position. Without the GUI, all you can do is use the right and left arrows to seek through the video stream at some arbitrary points. But with the slider bar on the GUI, you get much more fine-grained control if you're looking for a specific scene.
Don't forget VLC. I haven't gotten the "LAN" part of it to work yet, but it works great simply as a video player.
Of course, I don't speak for the poster you're responding to but I care about making freedom available to people. You have more software freedom on a Free Software OS (such as GNU/Linux) than you do on a proprietary system (such as Microsoft Windows). I have no interest in giving people more reason to stay with non-free software. But if you're approaching this from the Open Source movement's mentality of merely delivering faster, cheaper, better programs, I can see why you might reach the conclusions you do. I approach this from the desire to make self-determination possible for more people using their computers. Only the freedoms of Free Software helps me do this. Free Software and Open Source don't speak to the same concerns.
I don't care which operating system people run as long as it is a free OS. People have been working on making free OSes more user-friendly for a long time and there is much progress to show for the effort. But this is a difficult task (made artifically harder by oppressive copyright and patent law) and so this requires a lot of effort. But for those who are committed to freedom, not mere practical convenience, the sacrifice and the fight are worth it.
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You can use Xine for Freevo. By editing your local_config.py, and pointing the app to use Xine, you eliminate many problems with Divx playback. The two in particular are delayed sound, and misplacement of images on the screen (i.e. video moved up to the top or bottom of the screen leaving huge black bars at the top or bottom).
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There's a hotkey - to make the slider come up without the GUI - man mplayer
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Why are they worried about software patents? They ought to be more worried about violating copyright, which is what most of their binary codecs do.
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You can also disable the screensaver for every future instance of Mplayer by modifying the conf file, located in either usr/local/etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf or /root/.mplayer/gui.conf. You can find out which conf file mplayer is using by running it from the command line and watching mplayer's initialization messages.
I've been using KMPlayer almost exclusively since I began using Ark Linux a few months back. It's a desktop apt-rpm based distro and its great. It uses the Keramik/Geramik themes by default which gives the gnome and kde programs a mostly consistant look. Theres going to be a new alpha coming out soon, but they've been pretty stable for me. It's like debian without the excessive zealotry and instead of debs, rpm's, and instead of a crappy installer and configuration utilities, it lets you play tetris on the install! Anyways, it has KMPlayer in its apt sources list and its great (though I prefer kaffeine, the frontend for xine, for dvd's, as it does menus fairly flawlessly in dvd's) in conclusion, KMPlayer rocks (so help out the developer to make it even better :)
Well then get some small labels, and write "FFW" on the Right-Arrow, "RRW" on the Left-Arrow (as if those weren't easy enough) and Stop/Pause on "Q" and the Space-Bar. It doesn't get much easier than that.
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That makes absolutely no sense. You can jump forwards/backwards by any factor you prefer, instantly, and repeatedly, for as many times as you like.
It's not like you need a GUI to show you your position, because there is an OSD that shows you where you are after you jump.
So what was your point?
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On this SuSE 8.1 box (somewhat upgraded via apt4rpm):
There is much more of this (78 lines total) covering just about every option you could wish for, but I can't get it through Slashdot's lameness filter.
Flamebait indeed...