build a box that had the abiltiy to record every single click a user makes...AND everyone that you freaking e-mail??? Ok, the courts were wrong, but SonicBlue should be questioned about its overly zealous logging system. I mean, just because it is possible to log every person who scratches his or her butt during a commercial, doesn't mean you should.
The box has to send this information back to someone. How hard would it be to filter that infomation out?
Usurper_ii Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way... turn.
It seems like the most hassle free way of doing it would be to start an ISP. Take on a small number of dial up accounts just to look legit and help out with the bills. Then put your web sites up under fake user names. If someone complains about content...you lock out a fake user, remove the material in question, and shoot off an e-mail to the person that complained that it has been taken care of. Then you create a new fake user and do it all over again. Warrants and subpoenas? Why yes officer, I'll do everything I can to help you find this bad person!
usurper_ii
Thank God I live in this quiet, little, piss-ant, redneck, po-dunk...white trash, kick ass retirement town
If the US was really serious about taking out terrorist, it sure wouldn't be working with China (I know, it's just a game). We can all thank Bill Clinton for taking money under the table in return for giving China technology that gives them the capability of delivering a nuclear payload onto American soil. Maybe we would be better off without California?
> When reading or printing the document,
> the original purchaser's full name was
> embedded in the lower-right corner of
>the document. My other posts here outline our
> fair-use stance, but basically, peopel
> were encouraged to copy, print, and share
> their documents. They can do that with a
> magazine, right? Shouldn't be any
> different for our
Assuming you had the worlds greatest, unbreakable DRM system, it is insecure if you allow people to print, because once it is on "insecure" paper, all someone has to do is print, scan, and OCR it. Do you really think they are going to OCR their full name imbedded in the lower right hand corner?
And as far as that goes, the only way you are going to have totally secure e-versions, is to not have paper copies available. Where does everyone think all the books on "alt.ebooks" are coming from? Sure the average person isn't going to scan a book and OCR it. But all it takes is one dedicated person and a place to post.
For those saying the artists own the copyright...it isn't that easy. The artists would like to, and should, own the copyright, but the record labels say they own the copyright (well, I'm sure there are some artists that manage to keep their rights).
Here is how it basically works: The artist is loaned money to cut an album. Artist's song goes to number 4 on the charts. Before artist sees a dime of the money, all the money "borrowed" for recording and marketing costs must be paid back. The label that picked up the artist now claims copyright to that recording (in most cases). And get this, the reason they say it is their recording and not the artists', is because they say they put up the money. When in reality, the artists have to pay back the money that the recording company LOANED them!
I work for someone that just wrote a somewhat popular country song. He said the record company owns the copyright for the recording of that song. The band that recorded it -- Perfect Stranger -- can perform the song live, record the concert and sell copies of that recording, go to another studio and re-record the song...but the copyright to the song that is being played on the radio does not belong to them.
have made the story much more believable for me. If, instead of using batteries as the power source, the guy used a potato; and instead of lighting up some 100 watt light bulbs, he powered up a laptop running Linux...playing some MP3s, while downloading more using a Linux Gnutella client.
Nobody around here would have fell for that, would they?
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build a box that had the abiltiy to record every single click a user makes...AND everyone that you freaking e-mail??? Ok, the courts were wrong, but SonicBlue should be questioned about its overly zealous logging system. I mean, just because it is possible to log every person who scratches his or her butt during a commercial, doesn't mean you should.
... turn.
The box has to send this information back to someone. How hard would it be to filter that infomation out?
Usurper_ii
Go that way, really fast. If something gets in your way
It seems like the most hassle free way of doing it would be to start an ISP. Take on a small number of dial up accounts just to look legit and help out with the bills. Then put your web sites up under fake user names. If someone complains about content...you lock out a fake user, remove the material in question, and shoot off an e-mail to the person that complained that it has been taken care of. Then you create a new fake user and do it all over again. Warrants and subpoenas? Why yes officer, I'll do everything I can to help you find this bad person!
usurper_ii
Thank God I live in this quiet, little, piss-ant, redneck, po-dunk...white trash, kick ass retirement town
MS could at least get rid of its new product activation...that way at least Windows would return to being free. ;)
Success is the journey...not the destination
If the US was really serious about taking out terrorist, it sure wouldn't
be working with China (I know, it's just a game). We can all thank Bill
Clinton for taking money under the table in return for giving China
technology that gives them the capability of delivering a nuclear payload onto
American soil. Maybe we would be better off without California?
> When reading or printing the document,
> the original purchaser's full name was
> embedded in the lower-right corner of
>the document. My other posts here outline our
> fair-use stance, but basically, peopel
> were encouraged to copy, print, and share
> their documents. They can do that with a
> magazine, right? Shouldn't be any
> different for our
Assuming you had the worlds greatest, unbreakable DRM system, it is insecure if you allow people to print, because once it is on "insecure" paper, all someone has to do is print, scan, and OCR it. Do you really think they are going to OCR their full name imbedded in the lower right hand corner?
And as far as that goes, the only way you are going to have totally secure e-versions, is to not have paper copies available. Where does everyone think all the books on "alt.ebooks" are coming from? Sure the average person isn't going to scan a book and OCR it. But all it takes is one dedicated person and a place to post.
usurper_ii
For those saying the artists own the copyright...it isn't that easy. The artists would like to, and should, own the copyright, but the record labels say they own the copyright (well, I'm sure there are some artists that manage to keep their rights).
Here is how it basically works: The artist is loaned money to cut an album. Artist's song goes to number 4 on the charts. Before artist sees a dime of the money, all the money "borrowed" for recording and marketing costs must be paid back. The label that picked up the artist now claims copyright to that recording (in most cases). And get this, the reason they say it is their recording and not the artists', is because they say they put up the money. When in reality, the artists have to pay back the money that the recording company LOANED them!
I work for someone that just wrote a somewhat popular country song. He said the record company owns the copyright for the recording of that song. The band that recorded it -- Perfect Stranger -- can perform the song live, record the concert and sell copies of that recording, go to another studio and re-record the song...but the copyright to the song that is being played on the radio does not belong to them.
Jay
Yes, but people will pay for a CD FULL of MP3s. I know, I sell them all the time .
That was a joke...
usurper_ii
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have made the story much more believable for me. If, instead of using batteries as the power source, the guy used a potato; and instead of lighting up some 100 watt light bulbs, he powered up a laptop running Linux...playing some MP3s, while downloading more using a Linux Gnutella client.
Nobody around here would have fell for that, would they?
Success is the journey...not the destination