I will have to buy a game...as the other responder stated.
So yeah, the Wii is still only $50 less than an XBox360 core.
Just because you won't play it doesn't mean other people won't play it either so it does have value to some (probably most). Worst case scenario is you end up selling the game, I bet you could get at least $20 for it. Wii Golf actually looks pretty fun from I have seen so I will like "getting a game for free" instead of having to pay another $50.
Either way the Wii is still significantly cheaper than the XBox core and anyone who cannot afford an XBox Premium anyway and is deciding between the Wii and XBox core will probably go with the Wii since it is cheaper and a better deal (retro games with virtual console, includes wireless Wii remote and also the nun chuck, wireless internet compared just an ethernet port, has 512MB internal memory instead of none, etc). The XBox core sucks compared to the Wii.
Would I prefer today to code in BASIC instead of the Perl, Matlab, and Fortran that I now use?
AHHH Fortran! You poor soul you. The only thing I would pick programming in Fortran over is COBOL, I hate both those languages and much prefer PERL and C/C++.
So it's really only $50 under it's closes competition.
Did you RTFA? The Core 360 doesn't include a game like this Wii will, so add $50-60 to buy a game with the 360 Core and it's closest competitor is ~$100 more. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if they release a Wii "Core" with no game for ~$200, so again it would be ~$100 less than its nearest competitor.
Back in high school I swore I would never own a Mac unless I could upgrade the CUP
Great, now that Apple no longer has complete control over the hardware they are trying to take over the acronyms so the CPU is now CUP, Central Unit of Processing.
Quit saying "aforementioned" retard. It doesn't make you look smarter, especially when you have it twice in the same sentence jackass.
Daaammn, take a chill pill dude! Why do you have a problem with him using the word "aforementioned"? He used it and spelled it correctly and it is shorter to write "aforementioned" instead of "previously mentioned" so whats the big deal?
I agree completely. Why the hell do people get pissed off when MS includes basic, handy tools such as the windows firewall? For the average user that is just fine for them. For other people who want more custimization and features there is ZoneAlarm, Kerio Personal Firewall, etc. I think it would be great to have more basic tools included with the OS so I can get simple tasks done but if those simple tools eventually just aren't enough I can still go buy a better featured product from another company. That is how it should be.
Besides security non IE browsers and non outlook email clients are almost indistinguishable to the average user. THAT is the reason for that problem. If I show my dad a webpage in Opera he most likely will not notice any difference from IE other than buttons are in different places. The same goes for outlook. Both of those are simple tools that perform simple tasks and do everything most users need.
Look at other areas where MS has a similar product included with the OS such as firewall, MS paint, windows media player, etc and you will see that products that perform better and are noticeably better to not just the power user but also the average user get LOTS of business such as ZoneAlarm firewall, Adobe photoshop, Cyberlink Power DVD player and Nullsoft WinAmp.
Bringing up how IE shows a reason that MS shouldn't bundle software is pretty much pointless because back in the day when IE and Netscape Navigator were the two main browsers Navigator ended up losing because IE was just as usable and at times even performed better (well speedier which equals better to the average user). IE is still the majority because it does everything the average user needs which is displaying webpages, woo big job to do there.
FireFox/Opera/etc are becoming more popular now both for security reasons that users are finally beginning to understand as well as they provide more functionality than just being a tool to display webpages and people are starting to see both benefits.
I say let MS bundle all the software they want, it usually is just software that provides BASIC functionality and anyone who wants better WILL go elsewhere keeping software companies in business. If you work for a company who makes software similar to what MS might be bundling with Vista instead of hoping the EU helps "protect" you why don't you just make your application so kickass and full of features that people will not want anything else?
You know, I saw a refrigerator at Best Buy that has a TV and LCD control panel built in; it blew my mind, and it only costs 3.5 grand. Now, I like cool gadgets as much as the next guy, but I can't shake the feeling that whoever has the money to spend on a fridge like that (and not getting something industrial sized) probably doesn't deserve that much money to begin with -- give some of your money to UNICEF, don't buy a TV fridge.
It's my money, if I want to buy a TV fridge then I will buy a TV fridge. I could still give some money to some charities, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't splurge on some things. I have seen TVs in a lot of peoples kitchens, I don't have one myself but if I did want to add a TV to the kitchen this could be a great way to do it without having to worry about space issues.
As far as your comment about whoever has enough money for this fridge doesn't deserve that money you have no grounds to say that. If I worked my ass off to become successful enough to afford a TV fridge I damn well deserve to have that much money. From the comments you make I get the feeling you are one of those poor people that are jealous of people who have lots of money even though they worked their ass off for it compared to being lazy.
When I see this kind of wastefulness it really helps me understand why so much of the world has contempt for America -- the land of plenty!
Oh, like we don't give out billions and billions of aid already?
1) USA 27,457 2) Japan 13,101 3) UK 10,754 4) France 10,059 5) Germany 9,915
The USA gives out over double the amount of aid money than the next closest country. Yeah I can see why the world has contempt for us, we are such assholes and don't share any of the wealth right?
I suggest the next time you do some food shopping by yourself, get to the store first (Just to make it much much easier for you), blindfold yourself and walk around getting all the items on your shopping list. That will give you a partial impression of what its like.
They can ask for an employee to help them, I highly doubt a store would turn them down that help. They could also ask a friend/family member to come along to help. Disabled people got along just fine for hundreds of years before you could shop on the internet, there are other ways.
Accessible websites and home delivery are a boon to disabled people (as well as non-disabled people). With an accessible website, a blind person can do their regular shop without needing to inconvenience other people - its a means of self-sufficiency. What was once an arduous task is now something that can be completed successfully from their own homes - providing Target had done two really simple things.
I agree that accessible websites and home delivery are great for disabled people, but I don't think businesses should be forced to provide that service. If they don't provide that service then they lose out on the business. Like I said before, as long as the stores physical location is accessible then they should not be able to be sued over their web interface. In my eyes that would be like suing a business because every door coming into their business is not wheelchair accessible, as long as there is at least one way (physical or virtual) to get inside that should be enough and no suing should be going on forcing any businesses to change their website.
There is a big difference between barring black people by just not letting them in (which would require no extra money) and not making your website easily assesible to everyone on the planet. If the disabled person can't access your website but still could come to your physical store then I see no harm done. They can still access your goods, so that is all that should matter.
Depends--is "running Firefox" protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act?
So this is the reason they have those "designed for IE" sites that check user agents and only allow IE! You can access the site but only with shitty IE!
In this case, people saying 'virii' are trying to show that they understand some principles behind Latin noun conjugation. But they don't; they're just grandstanding and it makes them look stupid.
I agree it makes them look stupid. All that I am saying is now that it is well known that people who say "virii" are idiots since they should have typed "viruses" why comment on it EVERY DAMN TIME. It is a waste of time to keep pointing it out to them as they prefer their way. I used to hate seeing "virii" but now that I just don't care it saves me time since I just brush it off and transparently replace it with "viruses".
I know competition is good, I pointed that out myself. What I was tryig to show is that even though MS bundles some software (such as IE, paint, windows firewall, media player) it does not automatically kill of the competition like a lot of people say.
What it does is gives more functionality right out of the box to some users who just have basic needs, gives more competition to companies that have competing software which forces them to innovate, and then the users who need something better than MS's basic version end up getting a better product when they purchase the competitions version.
As an example I will use my computer that has quite a bit of software I purchased/freely downloaded even though something similar came with XP:
1) Adobe Photoshop instead of MS Paint. 2) Kerio Personal Firewall instead of the built in firewall. 3) WinAmp instead of using Windows Media Player. 4) CyberLink Power DVD player instead of Windows Media Player. 5) Opera instead of IE. 6) UltraEdit instead of notepad/wordpad. 7) WinRar, WinZIP, PKZip instead of the built in compression application. 8) AIM instead of using MSN. 9) AdAware/Spybot instead of Windows Defender (ok not bundled with XP but its available and will be included in Vista). 10) Partition magic instead of the built in disk tools. 11) Various types of CD/DVD burning software instead of the built in burning module (most of what I burn is just backups of files so MS's module theoretically could do most of what I needed done). 12) MyUninstall instead of the built in software uninstaller. 13) UltraVNC instead of the remote desktop.
I could probably find more but I don't feel like it. Anyway, it is pretty obvious that by MS including basic, extra tools in addition to their OS no major harm is done to competitors. Usually MS's version is a cheap POS that may be able to get simple tasks done but if more functionality is needed/wanted then you must look elsewhere.
What airports have you been to? Most large airports I have been to in the US have the long term parking about that far away. As long as there is easy to use transportation to/from the parking lot then I don't see it as an issue.
I have never used it to go between terminals but it is nice to use to get to/from the long term parking lots. I have been using it for years and never had a problem with it.
It is not my new word dipshit, all that I am saying is as long as I know what the person means then it is not an issue to me if they use virii or viruses. I used to hate "virii" too, but then I realized instead of complaining about it everytime someone used it I would just go the logical route and convert virii to viruses transparently in my brain. It takes minimal effort to do that and makes life easier overall.
Or pretty much anyone who isn't some pretentious poseur.
So if I said you should spell that as poser would that make me pretentious? In reality I don't care if you spell it that way, my way, or even any other way that I can understand since I would still be able to comprehend what you are trying to communicate. If you know what a person is trying to get across then bitching about the wordage they use is what is pretentious. Step down from your soapbox, you are not impressing anyone but yourself.
Languages evolve, yes, even because of ignorance. It used to annoy me too when people used "virii", but since I know what they are trying to say then their communication was succesful so why complain? This is not as big an issue like TCP/IP/tubes, this is just realizing some people say virii when they should say virus's, they came up with a synonym that makes no sense to anyone who knows latin but the number of people who know latin is minimal anyway to it's not a big deal. With TCP/IP vs tubes you lose the whole protocal being used if you say tubes, if someone says virii you still know exactly what they are talking about and no information is lost. While maybe not being syntatically correct why waste time complaining about it? There are bigger issues to complain about.
in my opinion ALL advertising that uses a persons personal information (address, phone number, e-mail, etc) and is not explicitly opted into by the person whose personal info will be used should be made illegal. Advertising on TV, while annoying, I can accept. Getting phone calls I do not wish to receive and having to sort through 100s of spam e-mails (How many fucking P3N15 En1@rg3r spams do I need to receive and spend time deleting every day) everyday is both annoying and a HUGE waste of my time. If there is a way to outlaw it I think that would be great.
Yeah! And they should make it illegal to have gains from selling liquor...no wait. I mean cocaine. Especially bad cocaine. Yeah that's it.
You are comparing selling something which requires the buyer to willingly do harm to themself versus taking over someone elses property without their permission and using that property for personal gain (while annoying a shitload of people at the same time). If someone wants to harm themself, then I say make it legal, however using someone elses property for personal gain without their explicit permission SHOULD be illegal in ALL forms.
Using the word "virii" is a sign of somebody wanting to appear educated, and failing completely.
Or it's a sign of someone using a term that has pretty much become accepted now except by the language whores like you. When the OP said virii, I knew he was communicating virus in the plural form, so his communication worked. That is what language is for, communicating, as long as what you say is reasonably understandable by the people you are talking to then it is serving it's purpose. Grammar/English Nazi's such as yourself need to shut the hell up and complain about something that causes real problems such as young people growing up not understanding basic math such as trig/calculus.
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I have no interest in Wii Sports...
I will have to buy a game...as the other responder stated.
So yeah, the Wii is still only $50 less than an XBox360 core.
Just because you won't play it doesn't mean other people won't play it either so it does have value to some (probably most). Worst case scenario is you end up selling the game, I bet you could get at least $20 for it. Wii Golf actually looks pretty fun from I have seen so I will like "getting a game for free" instead of having to pay another $50.
Either way the Wii is still significantly cheaper than the XBox core and anyone who cannot afford an XBox Premium anyway and is deciding between the Wii and XBox core will probably go with the Wii since it is cheaper and a better deal (retro games with virtual console, includes wireless Wii remote and also the nun chuck, wireless internet compared just an ethernet port, has 512MB internal memory instead of none, etc). The XBox core sucks compared to the Wii.
Would I prefer today to code in BASIC instead of the Perl, Matlab, and Fortran that I now use?
AHHH Fortran! You poor soul you. The only thing I would pick programming in Fortran over is COBOL, I hate both those languages and much prefer PERL and C/C++.
The Core 360 is only $299.99...
So it's really only $50 under it's closes competition.
Did you RTFA? The Core 360 doesn't include a game like this Wii will, so add $50-60 to buy a game with the 360 Core and it's closest competitor is ~$100 more. Also, I wouldn't be suprised if they release a Wii "Core" with no game for ~$200, so again it would be ~$100 less than its nearest competitor.
Or hell, anyone using largely multi-threaded apps would cream for a machine like this.
Is it just me or when I think of someone "creaming" it is a female? Males jizz, females cream.
Back in high school I swore I would never own a Mac unless I could upgrade the CUP
Great, now that Apple no longer has complete control over the hardware they are trying to take over the acronyms so the CPU is now CUP, Central Unit of Processing.
Quit saying "aforementioned" retard. It doesn't make you look smarter, especially when you have it twice in the same sentence jackass.
Daaammn, take a chill pill dude! Why do you have a problem with him using the word "aforementioned"? He used it and spelled it correctly and it is shorter to write "aforementioned" instead of "previously mentioned" so whats the big deal?
I agree completely. Why the hell do people get pissed off when MS includes basic, handy tools such as the windows firewall? For the average user that is just fine for them. For other people who want more custimization and features there is ZoneAlarm, Kerio Personal Firewall, etc. I think it would be great to have more basic tools included with the OS so I can get simple tasks done but if those simple tools eventually just aren't enough I can still go buy a better featured product from another company. That is how it should be.
Besides security non IE browsers and non outlook email clients are almost indistinguishable to the average user. THAT is the reason for that problem. If I show my dad a webpage in Opera he most likely will not notice any difference from IE other than buttons are in different places. The same goes for outlook. Both of those are simple tools that perform simple tasks and do everything most users need.
Look at other areas where MS has a similar product included with the OS such as firewall, MS paint, windows media player, etc and you will see that products that perform better and are noticeably better to not just the power user but also the average user get LOTS of business such as ZoneAlarm firewall, Adobe photoshop, Cyberlink Power DVD player and Nullsoft WinAmp.
Bringing up how IE shows a reason that MS shouldn't bundle software is pretty much pointless because back in the day when IE and Netscape Navigator were the two main browsers Navigator ended up losing because IE was just as usable and at times even performed better (well speedier which equals better to the average user). IE is still the majority because it does everything the average user needs which is displaying webpages, woo big job to do there.
FireFox/Opera/etc are becoming more popular now both for security reasons that users are finally beginning to understand as well as they provide more functionality than just being a tool to display webpages and people are starting to see both benefits.
I say let MS bundle all the software they want, it usually is just software that provides BASIC functionality and anyone who wants better WILL go elsewhere keeping software companies in business. If you work for a company who makes software similar to what MS might be bundling with Vista instead of hoping the EU helps "protect" you why don't you just make your application so kickass and full of features that people will not want anything else?
he should be better off in the end.
I am guessing "his end" will not be better off after 7 years in federal prison!
You know, I saw a refrigerator at Best Buy that has a TV and LCD control panel built in; it blew my mind, and it only costs 3.5 grand. Now, I like cool gadgets as much as the next guy, but I can't shake the feeling that whoever has the money to spend on a fridge like that (and not getting something industrial sized) probably doesn't deserve that much money to begin with -- give some of your money to UNICEF, don't buy a TV fridge.
i d.asp and scroll down to the chart for Official Development Assistance and see what you find for the year 2005 in billions of dollars:
It's my money, if I want to buy a TV fridge then I will buy a TV fridge. I could still give some money to some charities, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't splurge on some things. I have seen TVs in a lot of peoples kitchens, I don't have one myself but if I did want to add a TV to the kitchen this could be a great way to do it without having to worry about space issues.
As far as your comment about whoever has enough money for this fridge doesn't deserve that money you have no grounds to say that. If I worked my ass off to become successful enough to afford a TV fridge I damn well deserve to have that much money. From the comments you make I get the feeling you are one of those poor people that are jealous of people who have lots of money even though they worked their ass off for it compared to being lazy.
When I see this kind of wastefulness it really helps me understand why so much of the world has contempt for America -- the land of plenty!
Oh, like we don't give out billions and billions of aid already?
Go here http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Debt/USA
1) USA 27,457
2) Japan 13,101
3) UK 10,754
4) France 10,059
5) Germany 9,915
The USA gives out over double the amount of aid money than the next closest country. Yeah I can see why the world has contempt for us, we are such assholes and don't share any of the wealth right?
I suggest the next time you do some food shopping by yourself, get to the store first (Just to make it much much easier for you), blindfold yourself and walk around getting all the items on your shopping list. That will give you a partial impression of what its like.
They can ask for an employee to help them, I highly doubt a store would turn them down that help. They could also ask a friend/family member to come along to help. Disabled people got along just fine for hundreds of years before you could shop on the internet, there are other ways.
Accessible websites and home delivery are a boon to disabled people (as well as non-disabled people). With an accessible website, a blind person can do their regular shop without needing to inconvenience other people - its a means of self-sufficiency. What was once an arduous task is now something that can be completed successfully from their own homes - providing Target had done two really simple things.
I agree that accessible websites and home delivery are great for disabled people, but I don't think businesses should be forced to provide that service. If they don't provide that service then they lose out on the business. Like I said before, as long as the stores physical location is accessible then they should not be able to be sued over their web interface. In my eyes that would be like suing a business because every door coming into their business is not wheelchair accessible, as long as there is at least one way (physical or virtual) to get inside that should be enough and no suing should be going on forcing any businesses to change their website.
There is a big difference between barring black people by just not letting them in (which would require no extra money) and not making your website easily assesible to everyone on the planet. If the disabled person can't access your website but still could come to your physical store then I see no harm done. They can still access your goods, so that is all that should matter.
Depends--is "running Firefox" protected by the Americans with Disabilities Act?
So this is the reason they have those "designed for IE" sites that check user agents and only allow IE! You can access the site but only with shitty IE!
In this case, people saying 'virii' are trying to show that they understand some principles behind Latin noun conjugation. But they don't; they're just grandstanding and it makes them look stupid.
I agree it makes them look stupid. All that I am saying is now that it is well known that people who say "virii" are idiots since they should have typed "viruses" why comment on it EVERY DAMN TIME. It is a waste of time to keep pointing it out to them as they prefer their way. I used to hate seeing "virii" but now that I just don't care it saves me time since I just brush it off and transparently replace it with "viruses".
Funniest post I have seen in a LONG time. Nice work!
I know competition is good, I pointed that out myself. What I was tryig to show is that even though MS bundles some software (such as IE, paint, windows firewall, media player) it does not automatically kill of the competition like a lot of people say.
What it does is gives more functionality right out of the box to some users who just have basic needs, gives more competition to companies that have competing software which forces them to innovate, and then the users who need something better than MS's basic version end up getting a better product when they purchase the competitions version.
As an example I will use my computer that has quite a bit of software I purchased/freely downloaded even though something similar came with XP:
1) Adobe Photoshop instead of MS Paint.
2) Kerio Personal Firewall instead of the built in firewall.
3) WinAmp instead of using Windows Media Player.
4) CyberLink Power DVD player instead of Windows Media Player.
5) Opera instead of IE.
6) UltraEdit instead of notepad/wordpad.
7) WinRar, WinZIP, PKZip instead of the built in compression application.
8) AIM instead of using MSN.
9) AdAware/Spybot instead of Windows Defender (ok not bundled with XP but its available and will be included in Vista).
10) Partition magic instead of the built in disk tools.
11) Various types of CD/DVD burning software instead of the built in burning module (most of what I burn is just backups of files so MS's module theoretically could do most of what I needed done).
12) MyUninstall instead of the built in software uninstaller.
13) UltraVNC instead of the remote desktop.
I could probably find more but I don't feel like it. Anyway, it is pretty obvious that by MS including basic, extra tools in addition to their OS no major harm is done to competitors. Usually MS's version is a cheap POS that may be able to get simple tasks done but if more functionality is needed/wanted then you must look elsewhere.
I copied the wrong link in, the following link is more informative: http://www.ohare.com/ohare/parking/parking_ats.sht m
What airports have you been to? Most large airports I have been to in the US have the long term parking about that far away. As long as there is easy to use transportation to/from the parking lot then I don't see it as an issue.
At the international airport in Kualua Lumpur they have a robot train to pick up passengers and take them to another terminal.
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Chicago O'Hare has something similar as well:
http://www.airwise.com/airports/us/ORD/ORD_09.htm
I have never used it to go between terminals but it is nice to use to get to/from the long term parking lots. I have been using it for years and never had a problem with it.
But we also need to replace every single Illinois driver with a robot because damn, those people don't know how to drive. I'm from Wisconsin btw :-D
I live in Chicago and we think Wisconsin drivers are horrible. We do like to drive fast and cut people off though, I admit that.
It is not my new word dipshit, all that I am saying is as long as I know what the person means then it is not an issue to me if they use virii or viruses. I used to hate "virii" too, but then I realized instead of complaining about it everytime someone used it I would just go the logical route and convert virii to viruses transparently in my brain. It takes minimal effort to do that and makes life easier overall.
Or pretty much anyone who isn't some pretentious poseur.
So if I said you should spell that as poser would that make me pretentious? In reality I don't care if you spell it that way, my way, or even any other way that I can understand since I would still be able to comprehend what you are trying to communicate. If you know what a person is trying to get across then bitching about the wordage they use is what is pretentious. Step down from your soapbox, you are not impressing anyone but yourself.
Languages evolve, yes, even because of ignorance. It used to annoy me too when people used "virii", but since I know what they are trying to say then their communication was succesful so why complain? This is not as big an issue like TCP/IP/tubes, this is just realizing some people say virii when they should say virus's, they came up with a synonym that makes no sense to anyone who knows latin but the number of people who know latin is minimal anyway to it's not a big deal. With TCP/IP vs tubes you lose the whole protocal being used if you say tubes, if someone says virii you still know exactly what they are talking about and no information is lost. While maybe not being syntatically correct why waste time complaining about it? There are bigger issues to complain about.
in my opinion ALL advertising that uses a persons personal information (address, phone number, e-mail, etc) and is not explicitly opted into by the person whose personal info will be used should be made illegal. Advertising on TV, while annoying, I can accept. Getting phone calls I do not wish to receive and having to sort through 100s of spam e-mails (How many fucking P3N15 En1@rg3r spams do I need to receive and spend time deleting every day) everyday is both annoying and a HUGE waste of my time. If there is a way to outlaw it I think that would be great.
Yeah! And they should make it illegal to have gains from selling liquor...no wait. I mean cocaine. Especially bad cocaine. Yeah that's it.
You are comparing selling something which requires the buyer to willingly do harm to themself versus taking over someone elses property without their permission and using that property for personal gain (while annoying a shitload of people at the same time). If someone wants to harm themself, then I say make it legal, however using someone elses property for personal gain without their explicit permission SHOULD be illegal in ALL forms.
Using the word "virii" is a sign of somebody wanting to appear educated, and failing completely.
Or it's a sign of someone using a term that has pretty much become accepted now except by the language whores like you. When the OP said virii, I knew he was communicating virus in the plural form, so his communication worked. That is what language is for, communicating, as long as what you say is reasonably understandable by the people you are talking to then it is serving it's purpose. Grammar/English Nazi's such as yourself need to shut the hell up and complain about something that causes real problems such as young people growing up not understanding basic math such as trig/calculus.