Amen to that. I've had great difficulties getting my Visor PDA to talk over a USB cradle reliably on a stock RH 8 machine. Now I have written an approporiate agent script it is more reliable, but certainly not rock solid (that's without getting me started on conduits)....
One shouldn't have to get THAT deep into modules / modprobe etc in order to just talk to your PDA!
Of course, you could go the whole hog and get a "smart", less than 4 liters per 100km (about 70MPG) (*). That is a real, and achivable distance. Smart car enthusiasts have clocked nearly 80MPG in actual use.. Puts any SUV to shame.
(*) dependinf on if you are talking UK/US Gallon / Mile, which is of course why SI was invented in the first place.
Word is certainly not the best tool for the job if you are editing scientific documents (as the poster indicated).
The equation editing facilities are frankly laughable and it's ability to do cross referencing and include citations is awful. LaTeX + BibTeX are still streets ahead, even now, compared to Word. Believe me I know I have tried both and Word is pure pain.
I agree. Statements involving the phrase "orders of magnitude" are banded around without any thought idea of what it means.
If you are talking an "order of magnitude" you mean a "factor of ten", if you say "two orders of magnitude" you mean a factor of one hundred (etc).
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OrderofMagnitude.ht ml
So a SPECint of 1081 v.s. a SPECint of 637 does not even differ by one one order of magnitude. 637 ~ 1081, more like a factor of two, significant but not as earth shattering as, say three orders of magnitude (1000)!;-)
Good news for open source zelots everywhere. I was beginning to wonder what was happening with OOo. Since the grapevine had been quite for some time I didn't think much development work was going on.
Kudos for everyone involved. I look forward to the full release with bated breath. There are a number of niggles and annoyances that were really beginning to get to me, thankfully they appear to be addressed in the new version.
One feature I would like to see would be some form of "talkback" a-la Mozilla. That could make bug spotting easier for them. Nice shiny rpms and debs would also help people rather than just a tarball.
Keep up the good work! When I learn to program well enough I may give them a hand.
It's even worse than that. As a previous post mentions you start getting "difficulties" around 2-3GB. I have been looking at exactly this problem. Sun are EXPENSIVE for an academic research group even with a good healthy discount.
As an example we wish to do some simulations which may involve > 6->8GB of RAM. This cannot be cached on disk it must be in memory all the time. The best compromise we had was clustering.. (*)
When I told the guy from SUN, "...we can build our own 20 processor machine with >20GB of ram for less than £10,000..." he went very very silent. I think he may have choked....
Ideally we would like 64bit AMD NOW!!! But looks like we are going to have to go with the cluster option.
------------------- (*) we are just lucky that the code is not communiation bound
The fact that we don't see trains derailing all over the place and so forth gives me some confidence that Ashcroft/Ridge/Cheney/Bush et al. have their heads up their butts.
My goodness someone that seems to make sense!
Be careful or the big black helicopters will come for you. That kind of talk will alert the Bushes and other plantlife in the Greenhouse.
Or do you think that because that is what everybody tells yo to think
Sorry, I had intended to write,
"...because that is what the state tells you to think".
It was supposed to be a cynical tongue-in-cheek play on one of the themes in "1984", namely state based mind control....doesn't mean I can't admire certain aspects of their society.
Of course, however saying that US citizens still enjoy more freedoms than anybody else on the planet IMO is at best highly questionable, and at worst blind propaganda.
I agree that they do have greater freedoms than citizens of many countries however once you start looking at a broad set of countries such as {USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, The Netherlands, Sweden, Spain, Japan} and try to really define which is the "most free" you will almost certainly end up in a philosophical quandry.
e.g. If you assume (a Satre like) definition of freedom to be "the ability to do what you want" and qualify it with "to the point where you don't remove the freedom of other people" then for example...
Smoking -> Sure do it if you like, however it will impact on other peoples freedom not to have to breathe your smoke.
In the US, the UK and much of Germany this seems to be the predominant way things are going. Cutting down on people freedom to smoke in public places since it reduces the freedom of people not to breathe smoke. However in France and Greece smoking (to my displeasure) is still very much "de reguir". Under which case are the citizens the most free?
Once you get this level of comparison, you end up splitting hairs, for example.
In Germany there are sections of Autobahn without speed limits. On US Freeways it's 65Mph (or will be soon). In Germany you can drink beer at 16, in the US it's 21 (though you often get asked for identification even if you are middle-aged and balding).
Returning to your previous point..
US citizens still enjoy more freedoms than anybody else on the planet IMO
If you can quantify this statement by counting the "freedoms" in each country then great!
Otherwise you probably mean...
US citizens still enjoy a great deal of freedom compared to many countries in the world
Which I would agree with....anybody else.. is just too strong.
presumably that means that it is faster than any alternative route. Not necessarily faster, just that they "prefer" it (not having your face in someones armpit for instance). Buy introducing a congestion charge that should help people "prefer" not to use their cars. It's all a question of the path of least resistance.
As far as going around London is concerned that's not really tenable either. It's a fairly big city and has conjestion problems of it's own out on the ring roads. Particularly the "dynamic carpark" that is the M25.
There's a very simple answer. There are barely any petrol stations that sell LPG.
That's what people said about unleaded fuel a long time ago. Converted cars can still run on petrol if needed and there are an increasing number of stations selling LPG.
There are also government grants available for typically 50% of the cost bringing the typical cost of conversion down to ~£500. (What one hand giveth, the other hand taketh away)
When you also realise that the cost of the fuel is almost half that of petrol for the same distance it seems silly not to convert. (~40p/litre vs ~80p/litre)
I'm just amazed that this isn't being advertised much!
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As vindicated by the sight of many a Mercedes being tied to the railings by the fire department to stop them drifting down the river...
Amen to that. I've had great difficulties getting my Visor PDA to talk over a USB cradle reliably on a stock RH 8 machine. Now I have written an approporiate agent script it is more reliable, but certainly not rock solid (that's without getting me started on conduits)....
One shouldn't have to get THAT deep into modules / modprobe etc in order to just talk to your PDA!
He confuses everybody. ;-)
Can you avoid using GB as Guantanamo Bay, it's confusing for some of us.
Mind you it's an easy mistake to make at the moment with this heat (35C in some places).
So you think translation is becoming obsolete do you? Perhaps you need to "get out more".
In Australia? That must be an example of humourous irony....
I wonder what the European Space Agency thinks. I expect, like most of us they don't care.
(*) dependinf on if you are talking UK/US Gallon / Mile, which is of course why SI was invented in the first place.
The equation editing facilities are frankly laughable and it's ability to do cross referencing and include citations is awful. LaTeX + BibTeX are still streets ahead, even now, compared to Word. Believe me I know I have tried both and Word is pure pain .
That's great! Where did you find it? Or did you come up with that one yourself.
maybe even in the order-of-magnitude range.
t ml
;-)
I agree. Statements involving the phrase "orders of magnitude" are banded around without any thought idea of what it means.
If you are talking an "order of magnitude" you mean a "factor of ten", if you say "two orders of magnitude" you mean a factor of one hundred (etc).
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OrderofMagnitude.h
So a SPECint of 1081 v.s. a SPECint of 637 does not even differ by one one order of magnitude. 637 ~ 1081, more like a factor of two, significant but not as earth shattering as, say three orders of magnitude (1000)!
Good news for open source zelots everywhere. I was beginning to wonder what was happening with OOo. Since the grapevine had been quite for some time I didn't think much development work was going on.
Kudos for everyone involved. I look forward to the full release with bated breath. There are a number of niggles and annoyances that were really beginning to get to me, thankfully they appear to be addressed in the new version.
One feature I would like to see would be some form of "talkback" a-la Mozilla. That could make bug spotting easier for them. Nice shiny rpms and debs would also help people rather than just a tarball.
Keep up the good work! When I learn to program well enough I may give them a hand.
Sorry charlie, you're SOL.
It's even worse than that. As a previous post mentions you start getting "difficulties" around 2-3GB. I have been looking at exactly this problem. Sun are EXPENSIVE for an academic research group even with a good healthy discount.
As an example we wish to do some simulations which may involve > 6->8GB of RAM. This cannot be cached on disk it must be in memory all the time. The best compromise we had was clustering.. (*)
When I told the guy from SUN, "...we can build our own 20 processor machine with >20GB of ram for less than £10,000..." he went very very silent. I think he may have choked....
Ideally we would like 64bit AMD NOW!!! But looks like we are going to have to go with the cluster option.
-------------------
(*) we are just lucky that the code is not communiation bound
How many "lengths of a football field" is that?
;-)
Do you mean a FIFA football field or an American football field?
...we used LaTeX and were happy about it!
I still am thanks. LaTeX is really (still) the only choice for producing long complex good looking scientific documents.
The fact that we don't see trains derailing all over the place and so forth gives me some confidence that Ashcroft/Ridge/Cheney/Bush et al. have their heads up their butts.
My goodness someone that seems to make sense!
Be careful or the big black helicopters will come for you. That kind of talk will alert the Bushes and other plantlife in the Greenhouse.
Or do you think that because that is what everybody tells yo to think
...doesn't mean I can't admire certain aspects of their society.
...anybody else.. is just too strong.
Sorry, I had intended to write,
"...because that is what the state tells you to think".
It was supposed to be a cynical tongue-in-cheek play on one of the themes in "1984", namely state based mind control.
Of course, however saying that US citizens still enjoy more freedoms than anybody else on the planet IMO is at best highly questionable, and at worst blind propaganda.
I agree that they do have greater freedoms than citizens of many countries however once you start looking at a broad set of countries such as {USA, Canada, UK, France, Germany, The Netherlands, Sweden, Spain, Japan} and try to really define which is the "most free" you will almost certainly end up in a philosophical quandry.
e.g. If you assume (a Satre like) definition of freedom to be "the ability to do what you want" and qualify it with "to the point where you don't remove the freedom of other people" then for example...
Smoking -> Sure do it if you like, however it will impact on other peoples freedom not to have to breathe your smoke.
In the US, the UK and much of Germany this seems to be the predominant way things are going. Cutting down on people freedom to smoke in public places since it reduces the freedom of people not to breathe smoke. However in France and Greece smoking (to my displeasure) is still very much "de reguir". Under which case are the citizens the most free?
Once you get this level of comparison, you end up splitting hairs, for example.
In Germany there are sections of Autobahn without speed limits. On US Freeways it's 65Mph (or will be soon). In Germany you can drink beer at 16, in the US it's 21 (though you often get asked for identification even if you are middle-aged and balding).
Returning to your previous point..
US citizens still enjoy more freedoms than anybody else on the planet IMO
If you can quantify this statement by counting the "freedoms" in each country then great!
Otherwise you probably mean...
US citizens still enjoy a great deal of freedom compared to many countries in the world
Which I would agree with.
US citizens still enjoy more freedoms than anybody else on the planet IMO
Are you sure? Or do you think that because that is what everybody tells yo to think?
Off topic but....
Give a man a fish, he owes you one fish.
Teach a man to fish, you give up your monopoly on fisheries.
My favorite...
Build a man a fire and he will be warm for the night. Set a man on fire and he will be warm for the rest of his life.
South park. Episode 511 "The Entity". Nuff said.
I saw it yesterday and nearly choked I was laughing so hard! Look here for a still from the episode.
Summed up popular opinion at the time quite well...
presumably that means that it is faster than any alternative route.
Not necessarily faster, just that they "prefer" it (not having your face in someones armpit for instance). Buy introducing a congestion charge that should help people "prefer" not to use their cars. It's all a question of the path of least resistance.
As far as going around London is concerned that's not really tenable either. It's a fairly big city and has conjestion problems of it's own out on the ring roads. Particularly the "dynamic carpark" that is the M25.
There's a very simple answer. There are barely any petrol stations that sell LPG.
That's what people said about unleaded fuel a long time ago. Converted cars can still run on petrol if needed and there are an increasing number of stations selling LPG.
As demonstrated in this clickable map of the UK. Since most drivers commute over similar routes there will almost certainly be stations that are useful.
Any other objections? I'm not an LPG zelot by the way, I can't even drive. I'm a cyclist zealot... Even better than LPG!
USA aiding terrorists? It's obviously a lie. :-/
Of course. If you aid them, then they can't be terrorists can they?
£5 per car, per day.
Yes I agree it should be more. That's the same as a travelcard. £10 would be more appropriate.
Mr Bloggs who has to drive in and is on a Teachers salary has to pay the same
Mr Bloggs does not have to drive in. He can take the bus/tube or shock - horror, cycle in, just like I do. There is a choice.
There are also government grants available for typically 50% of the cost bringing the typical cost of conversion down to ~£500. (What one hand giveth, the other hand taketh away)
When you also realise that the cost of the fuel is almost half that of petrol for the same distance it seems silly not to convert. (~40p/litre vs ~80p/litre)
I'm just amazed that this isn't being advertised much!
For more info see the powershift website.