Or focus on your own international PC sales, have website will vend. You are stuck with a ten day lag on shipping but that's not too detrimental. The market for home PCs just might be exploding again. Maybe this time we can get people to use a good (read: free and open) OS.
Monopoly is the free market killer, the only thing that keeps prices down and quality up is competition, take that away and the model simply doesn't work. It's not the model failing as much as it is just getting crap parameters passed to it.
Bad hardware maybe, but theres tons of it. It makes ultra low cost Linux netmachines even cheaper. Sure they use shit hardware, but it works and it's cheap. I'm still waiting for the $99 PC-3/486 with e-mail, word proc., net access. Regardless, the more hardware thats supported the more hardware that "just works" the more people that use Linux the more hardware they buy, yada yada yada..better software.
The last two posts (history of squirt guns) reafirm my belief that/. is the best web site on earth. For the cost of a banner a page you get the truest efforts of your peers. Anyway, funny posts.....you need to be able to moderate to 100, c'mon Rob.;-)
Both of you guys mentioned how money was power to some degree or another. It's also been said that information is power. I (and I'm sure the vast majority of you) have access to incredible large reserves of information and also (more importantly) posess the skillz/bandwidth to access it in a timely manner. I'm not specifically referring to h/cr|acking, but that's part of the mystique. Personally I think this article is quite a bit off base, but, as it said ``A central fact is that wealth and social power, which mattered most in the old jet set, does not matter at all in cyberspace.''. This makes your new presentation of yourself all that matters. We're pretty good at that, now if we could all collectively 1/bathe,2/haircuts,3/tans,4/workout..we could much better match the jet-sets ability to do the thing that REALLY matters...pick up chicks.
That's what they're selling. The software is inconsequential (as it should be) it's the support and the confidence in that support that they get. Don't know if that came off in the road show. Got another quick anecdote from a guy who saw the "show" down in NC to some fortune 50 companies. ..... Bob Young: How many of you use Linux as your main desktop/server OS? Crowd: (no hands go up) BY: How many of you officically use Linux for mail/web servers? Crowd: (two hands go up) BY: How many of you think Linux is running somewhere on your network? Crowd: (all hands go up)
(Insert quote about using the back door to gain the riches of the kingdom here) .....
That is a good reason why Linux will one day achieve global domination. It's just one of those things. Great, whoever wrote it, even better with no author. Should be REQUIRED reading, just like the original.
Anyway, to go off-topic, if you missed Southpark tonite, you missed Moses....he looks like the I/O from Tron in case you didn't know. Totally hilarious. clap-clap. South Park is the next Simpsons, unless Trey or Matt OD.
I can't even tell you how many times I have been denied access to a deep page because of the referring page. There is a simple technological solution that doesn't require litigation. However, as a company that relies on IP for it's income I can see how panic would quickly set in. My question is of course "Why would you want to keep people from seeing your trailer?" Do we have to pay (by ignoring banner ads) just to see your other advertisement? If you really want to limit acces, then REALLY limit access. Password protect the file, make a login necessary, require blood pacts, but don't post something on the Internet at large and then get pissed when people link to it. THAT'S WHAT THE MEDIUM IS!!! We (those that have a clue) must be vocal in protecting the rights and freedoms of Internet users everywhere, as well as the ideals of open information and, gaddamit, the ability to link wherever I damn well please. If we don't it won't be too long before sites like/. become illegal and every link you want to add to a page must be researched and requested. If you don't want me to link to your pages, it is YOUR responsibility to keep me from it.
(/incoherent rant {work sux bad after vaca...I miss Cabo:(})
I commend theatres who make some effort to enforce an unpopular ruling, and gladly relegate myself to "flamebait" status in so doing.
I must disagree here, this is why. I was visiting a friend in NY this last weekend, we went to see "Eyes Wides Shut" (Stan K's final 3 hour joke on the movie viewing public, I thought it was a good joke) we got carded at the movie and they made my friend go out to her car and get an ID. Not too bad until you consider the fact that we are both 25 and look it. And when they carded an at least 30-yr-old, I just starting laughing, then made some appropriately off-color remarks ("You mean people curse out in public?! gasp!").
The problem as I see it isn't in the law but the blind enforcement of it. What should for sure be a "spirit of the law" interpretation, it's about morality after all, is instead given a strict "letter of the law" interpretation. This was what angered me and our dear Mr. Katz, my freedom is lost and my time is wasted because people are not given the right to think for themselves, and that, my friends, is a bunch of crap.
We'd all know who's fault it was. The adult who should have seen the movie with the kid. It's not the kids' job to enforce the rule or agree with it. It's the adults job. They should show a little responsiblity
One of the main points of the movie was the stupid blame game that goes on. Kyle at the end tells his Mom, who has led the whole attack on Canada, that he is the one who should be blamed for what he did, after all, he did it. Even young children understand right and wrong to some degree. It is the reinforcement by the parents that solidify it.
You can't legislate morality, to try is to limit freedom, to limit freedom is itself an amoral act (in American ideals), so just don't do it.
In the free/open system that Linux uses, what most uses need will become quickly apparent. When Gnome get 5000 e-mails saying they need this or that, I would assume that's the direction the team would move in. If they don't it's very easy for someone else to pick up the slack. Either way it won't change for you since you don't have to change your system a bit if you don't want. Keep the choice and the Bazaar and everything else should fall into place (it just might take a while, it's not like there are screaming stockholders hoping for immediate return, oh wait....)
It'll ship exactly on time, like all Microsoft products. They are never late and the first versions kick ass. (Not a troll, sarcasm)
I'm expecting it REALLY about 2002 based on the article. BTW, funny how the above comment got moderated (+1, insightful) A little/. cynicism maybe (like my own...)
I disagree, there is a certain amount of "action" in Neuromancer and most other books that I've read, which ones have no action? (that would make for a boring book, and I don't just mean guns)
Re: MS premier alert service...
on
BO2K cracked
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just one real quick question: How much does it cost to get "Premier" Alert Service?
Seems along the normal lines of "We are not responsible for our software " (read the EULA). "We can do nothing about stupid users" "Windows is prefect, nope, no holes here."
Where is the "officially endorsed, M$ branded" NT remote admin. program? Anybody give me a link...
Thanks for the link. Maybe they should make blockbuster movies about the making of the spacecraft, to cover the costs, you see. At least the tech. would be accurate, although my guess is the acting, and hot chick quotient would suffer.
The sub $500 dollar computer market is a great place for Linux. When you can knock off $50-100? of a $300-500 machine you can gain a competitive advantage. Include a bi-monthly (yearly) upgrade CD with GOOD instructions and you can get some serious customer loyalty.
I expect W2K to be the same as the others, nice, sterile, and simple, until it starts to do really strange things without rhyme or reason until you shoot it.
"I want to get to know the hacker community better," he said. "These people are America's future."
Is this because so many of them are kids or because they "know" computers? I do know that the job I currently do (and probably 74%) of IT jobs will be done by normal employees who have lots of comp. exp. in another 10 years or so. Most of it just isn't that difficult.
Anyway, just because it's now obligatory, I consider myself a hacker, in the sense that I don't know how to be subtle and hack the crap out of code as if with a dull ax. Crackers are silly white folks.
So you grow the processors, build the memory is steel, mix it all up and you have a brain. With deterioration, incoherent thought, and possible some pretty fierce AI. 10 years, eh? hmmmm....
My statement of stealing from people who steal was poorly worded and very specific to this situation. It was refeering to "stealing" through the use of MP3s (which I dont think of as stealing at all, look at radio) and "stealing" through point two (exploiting people because of their ignorance? or your power?). Referring quite specifically to the "Empire"(Big 5) and consumers (Me)
You go girl, just watch what you define as 'unjust'.
I do, very carefully. (and sometimes I, gasp, change my mind)
But if you lose a single sale of your performance because it's available free on musicsnatch.net, then that is what was stolen from you.
Losing a sale = stolen ?
I know some salesmen that have been seriosuly screwed over by customers. We should call the police. I don't think of MP3's or anything digital as having a physical form (stealing them intellectually is to claim credit for them (not to "own" the thoughts themselves(nested enough for you?))), which I feel is wrong), allowing them to be stolen by the sole act of possession. Set a strong magnet next to your PC and see how temporary they are. Use Windows and watch it eat your disk and tell me how temporary they are. Watch your HD crash and tell me....
MP3's equivalent (in the future) in our culture now is the radio. It's temporary and cheap to give to a lot of people.
I consider much of this moot anyway (but I like to arg, er, debate) since I think current copyright laws are immoral (or at least their severe abuse are, extending the copyright of Mickey Mouse for 20 more years after 75 years of protection far outlasting the life of the only person who should have "intelectual property" to it, that's a bunch of crap. Corporations are NOT people, and if they were everyone would hate them for how they act. Um, sorry, it's late........
My guess is they are all pirated (tough to enforce copywrong over seas) This is MUCH worse than listening to MP3 becuase someone other than the artist/creator is profiting. I see this as much, much worse than downloading MP3s, which I associate with listening to the radio, i.e. legal as hell and morally right.
What about exploiting people because of their ignorance? or your power?
What about your duty to disobey unjust laws? or should we follow blindly what our leaders hack together as rules (influenced by those that would profit from said laws)
Black and white are both great colors, but there are so many many more of them, some quite beautiful.
I got in an argumet unrelated to this the other day, and the final point of logic he used before giving up was the fact the he was older than me.
Do you think a computer consultant is worth $220 an hour?
Some companies charge that anyway - regardless of what you think.
Again this falls to the same flaw as the Mercedes argument. I give you an hour of my time, I no longer have it. It is a FINITE resource. Give me a relevant example and you'll get some credit, until then, NO SOUP FOR YOU!
And lets not forget about Milli Vanilli or Vanilli Ice. Use 'em and toss 'em away, disposable artists. Most musicians would (and do) sign away their lifes work for a chance to sign "big". I, for one, will be glad to see this practice go away.
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Or focus on your own international PC sales, have website will vend. You are stuck with a ten day lag on shipping but that's not too detrimental. The market for home PCs just might be exploding again. Maybe this time we can get people to use a good (read: free and open) OS.
Monopoly is the free market killer, the only thing that keeps prices down and quality up is competition, take that away and the model simply doesn't work. It's not the model failing as much as it is just getting crap parameters passed to it.
Bad hardware maybe, but theres tons of it. It makes ultra low cost Linux netmachines even cheaper. Sure they use shit hardware, but it works and it's cheap. I'm still waiting for the $99 PC-3/486 with e-mail, word proc., net access.
Regardless, the more hardware thats supported the more hardware that "just works" the more people that use Linux the more hardware they buy, yada yada yada..better software.
Time to speak to your local governments again. Make them aware what these kinds of laws means to the average consumer..."Bend Over and Lube Up!"
We need lobbyists, oh wait, we got 'em. I think it's called the Slashdot effect. Ain't e-mail grand.
2 scariest parts-- No reverse engineering, remote disabling of software and vendor approval for reselling. Does that include VARs?
Kind of makes those with OSS look at the others and issue forth the eternal sound of Nelson "Heh-huh"
The last two posts (history of squirt guns) reafirm my belief that /. is the best web site on earth. For the cost of a banner a page you get the truest efforts of your peers. ;-)
Anyway, funny posts.....you need to be able to moderate to 100, c'mon Rob.
Both of you guys mentioned how money was power to some degree or another. It's also been said that information is power. I (and I'm sure the vast majority of you) have access to incredible large reserves of information and also (more importantly) posess the skillz/bandwidth to access it in a timely manner. I'm not specifically referring to h/cr|acking, but that's part of the mystique.
Personally I think this article is quite a bit off base, but, as it said ``A central fact is that wealth and social power, which mattered most in the old jet set, does not matter at all in cyberspace.''. This makes your new presentation of yourself all that matters. We're pretty good at that, now if we could all collectively 1/bathe,2/haircuts,3/tans,4/workout..we could much better match the jet-sets ability to do the thing that REALLY matters...pick up chicks.
That's what they're selling. The software is inconsequential (as it should be) it's the support and the confidence in that support that they get. Don't know if that came off in the road show. Got another quick anecdote from a guy who saw the "show" down in NC to some fortune 50 companies.
.....
Bob Young: How many of you use Linux as your main desktop/server OS?
Crowd: (no hands go up)
BY: How many of you officically use Linux for mail/web servers?
Crowd: (two hands go up)
BY: How many of you think Linux is running somewhere on your network?
Crowd: (all hands go up)
(Insert quote about using the back door to gain the riches of the kingdom here)
.....
That is a good reason why Linux will one day achieve global domination. It's just one of those things. Great, whoever wrote it, even better with no author. Should be REQUIRED reading, just like the original.
Anyway, to go off-topic, if you missed Southpark tonite, you missed Moses....he looks like the I/O from Tron in case you didn't know. Totally hilarious. clap-clap. South Park is the next Simpsons, unless Trey or Matt OD.
I can't even tell you how many times I have been denied access to a deep page because of the referring page. There is a simple technological solution that doesn't require litigation. However, as a company that relies on IP for it's income I can see how panic would quickly set in. /. become illegal and every link you want to add to a page must be researched and requested. If you don't want me to link to your pages, it is YOUR responsibility to keep me from it.
My question is of course "Why would you want to keep people from seeing your trailer?" Do we have to pay (by ignoring banner ads) just to see your other advertisement?
If you really want to limit acces, then REALLY limit access. Password protect the file, make a login necessary, require blood pacts, but don't post something on the Internet at large and then get pissed when people link to it. THAT'S WHAT THE MEDIUM IS!!!
We (those that have a clue) must be vocal in protecting the rights and freedoms of Internet users everywhere, as well as the ideals of open information and, gaddamit, the ability to link wherever I damn well please. If we don't it won't be too long before sites like
(/incoherent rant {work sux bad after vaca...I miss Cabo:(})
I commend theatres who
make some effort to enforce an unpopular ruling, and gladly relegate myself to "flamebait" status in so doing.
I must disagree here, this is why. I was visiting a friend in NY this last weekend, we went to see "Eyes Wides Shut" (Stan K's final 3 hour joke on the movie viewing public, I thought it was a good joke) we got carded at the movie and they made my friend go out to her car and get an ID. Not too bad until you consider the fact that we are both 25 and look it. And when they carded an at least 30-yr-old, I just starting laughing, then made some appropriately off-color remarks ("You mean people curse out in public?! gasp!").
The problem as I see it isn't in the law but the blind enforcement of it. What should for sure be a "spirit of the law" interpretation, it's about morality after all, is instead given a strict "letter of the law" interpretation. This was what angered me and our dear Mr. Katz, my freedom is lost and my time is wasted because people are not given the right to think for themselves, and that, my friends, is a bunch of crap.
We'd all know
who's fault it was. The adult who should have seen the movie with the kid. It's not the kids' job to enforce the rule or agree with it. It's the adults job. They should show a little
responsiblity
One of the main points of the movie was the stupid blame game that goes on. Kyle at the end tells his Mom, who has led the whole attack on Canada, that he is the one who should be blamed for what he did, after all, he did it. Even young children understand right and wrong to some degree. It is the reinforcement by the parents that solidify it.
You can't legislate morality, to try is to limit freedom, to limit freedom is itself an amoral act (in American ideals), so just don't do it.
I remember a few scenes from it, it always seemed to be on at 2:00 p.m on a saturday, or was it 2:00a.m. on a friday, can't remember I think I was 12.
In the free/open system that Linux uses, what most uses need will become quickly apparent. When Gnome get 5000 e-mails saying they need this or that, I would assume that's the direction the team would move in. If they don't it's very easy for someone else to pick up the slack. Either way it won't change for you since you don't have to change your system a bit if you don't want. Keep the choice and the Bazaar and everything else should fall into place (it just might take a while, it's not like there are screaming stockholders hoping for immediate return, oh wait....)
It'll ship exactly on time, like all Microsoft products. They are never late and the first versions kick ass. (Not a troll, sarcasm)
/. cynicism maybe (like my own...)
I'm expecting it REALLY about 2002 based on the article. BTW, funny how the above comment got moderated (+1, insightful) A little
I disagree, there is a certain amount of "action" in Neuromancer and most other books that I've read, which ones have no action? (that would make for a boring book, and I don't just mean guns)
just one real quick question: How much does it cost to get "Premier" Alert Service?
Seems along the normal lines of "We are not responsible for our software " (read the EULA). "We can do nothing about stupid users" "Windows is prefect, nope, no holes here."
Where is the "officially endorsed, M$ branded" NT remote admin. program? Anybody give me a link...
Thanks for the link. Maybe they should make blockbuster movies about the making of the spacecraft, to cover the costs, you see. At least the tech. would be accurate, although my guess is the acting, and hot chick quotient would suffer.
The sub $500 dollar computer market is a great place for Linux. When you can knock off $50-100? of a $300-500 machine you can gain a competitive advantage. Include a bi-monthly (yearly) upgrade CD with GOOD instructions and you can get some serious customer loyalty.
I expect W2K to be the same as the others, nice, sterile, and simple, until it starts to do really strange things without rhyme or reason until you shoot it.
"I want to get to know the hacker community better," he said. "These
people are America's future."
Is this because so many of them are kids or because they "know" computers? I do know that the job I currently do (and probably 74%) of IT jobs will be done by normal employees who have lots of comp. exp. in another 10 years or so.
Most of it just isn't that difficult.
Anyway, just because it's now obligatory, I consider myself a hacker, in the sense that I don't know how to be subtle and hack the crap out of code as if with a dull ax. Crackers are silly white folks.
It mentions that term a couple times, anyone got a pricetag?
BTW, seems like a pretty cool thing to me, if they need anybody with razor sharp simulation aiming skills, I volunteer.
So you grow the processors, build the memory is steel, mix it all up and you have a brain. With deterioration, incoherent thought, and possible some pretty fierce AI. 10 years, eh? hmmmm....
Some clarification.
My statement of stealing from people who steal was poorly worded and very specific to this situation. It was refeering to "stealing" through the use of MP3s (which I dont think of as stealing at all, look at radio) and "stealing" through point two (exploiting people because of their ignorance? or your power?). Referring quite specifically to the "Empire"(Big 5) and consumers (Me)
You go girl, just watch what you define as 'unjust'.
I do, very carefully. (and sometimes I, gasp, change my mind)
But if you lose a single sale of your performance because it's available free on musicsnatch.net, then that is what was stolen from you.
Losing a sale = stolen ?
I know some salesmen that have been seriosuly screwed over by customers. We should call the police. I don't think of MP3's or anything digital as having a physical form (stealing them intellectually is to claim credit for them (not to "own" the thoughts themselves(nested enough for you?))), which I feel is wrong), allowing them to be stolen by the sole act of possession. Set a strong magnet next to your PC and see how temporary they are. Use Windows and watch it eat your disk and tell me how temporary they are. Watch your HD crash and tell me....
MP3's equivalent (in the future) in our culture now is the radio. It's temporary and cheap to give to a lot of people.
I consider much of this moot anyway (but I like to arg, er, debate) since I think current copyright laws are immoral (or at least their severe abuse are, extending the copyright of Mickey Mouse for 20 more years after 75 years of protection far outlasting the life of the only person who should have "intelectual property" to it, that's a bunch of crap. Corporations are NOT people, and if they were everyone would hate them for how they act. Um, sorry, it's late........
My guess is they are all pirated (tough to enforce copywrong over seas) This is MUCH worse than listening to MP3 becuase someone other than the artist/creator is profiting. I see this as much, much worse than downloading MP3s, which I associate with listening to the radio, i.e. legal as hell and morally right.
Stealing is stealing - and it's wrong.
Sorry, but this is silly.
What about stealing from people who steal?
What about exploiting people because of their ignorance? or your power?
What about your duty to disobey unjust laws? or should we follow blindly what our leaders hack together as rules (influenced by those that would profit from said laws)
Black and white are both great colors, but there are so many many more of them, some quite beautiful.
I got in an argumet unrelated to this the other day, and the final point of logic he used before giving up was the fact the he was older than me.
Do you think a computer consultant is worth $220 an hour?
Some companies charge that anyway - regardless of what you think.
Again this falls to the same flaw as the Mercedes argument. I give you an hour of my time, I no longer have it. It is a FINITE resource. Give me a relevant example and you'll get some credit, until then, NO SOUP FOR YOU!
And lets not forget about Milli Vanilli or Vanilli Ice. Use 'em and toss 'em away, disposable artists. Most musicians would (and do) sign away their lifes work for a chance to sign "big". I, for one, will be glad to see this practice go away.