School Net filtering bills are nothing new, but the recent carnage at the nation's high schools has no doubt intensified concern about minors' online habits. The Juvenile Justice Bill is stacked with provisions in reaction to the incident in Littleton, Colorado, which left 14 students and one teacher dead. The incident also brought children's Net use into sharper focus, because the Littleton killers reportedly were heavy online users.
Fallout from the disturbed. The only reason that this legislation is being brought up was the above mentioned event (as well as new attempts at laws to limit mass media). This makes even less sense b/c I seriously doubt the columbiners did their research at school. Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it open and then track usage through user id's? This allows educators to monitor usage, punish abusers, and would work to identify troubled students. It's much easier to identify erratic behavior when the behavee is given freedom as opposed to strict boundaries.
Another issue is that it would take place in libraries. I thought you went to a library to research and learn. Having access limited is like cordoning off entire wings of a library because of two or three bad books. The good is mixed with the bad and cutting out the "bad" results in excessive collateral damage.
Monitor your reps. votes and/. 'em come election time (it's how our system works, remember?)
wouldn't that be Holy Quartology, or is that blashphemous:-). I followed the first rule of stupid posters and didn't read the whole section, my brain (via the collective) had already remembered.
BTW i suppose you wanted to say "send the clone at work and go to the Bahamas" because what you said is worse than the reality. Why would I pay a travel to the Bahamas to my clone if I must work for it??? Are you dumb;)
that's why it was funny. If I make a clone for some spare parts, it would only be fair to keep it happy.
First off, most of these came from pre-"Halloween Documents" e-mails. That's almost 5 years internet time. And much of this sounds like pipe-dreams and wishful thinking.
One bad thing-- "Further, AOL plans to morph its ICQ instant messaging software into a desktop-based portal that would use Netscape technology as a browser -- something that could further increase its browser share."
Why, why, why do you take a very good niche product and try to make it everything? That philosophy makes software so large it creates it's own gravity, and it starts to suck. Will they turn WinAmp into a full-blown sound editing environment, with Mp3 support? My confidence in AOL's bidness acumen is diving past zero.
One other point...this was on MSNBC.com. (Yes,I read MSNBC, say what you will, MS knows GUI's) However, in the many stories I have read there (many on comp./int. news) this is by far the most biased. It's not subtle how they portray these companies, and I quote... " "Our view of AOL is, let's take the interactivity they love and have come to depend on as a necessity in their life and take pieces of it linking it back to AOL and in the process finding new revenue streams per member so we're not only making new money for adding new members but adding devices that get revenue from the members," Pittman said. "
While this may be true, this paints a VERY negative picture of AOL from an "impartial" news source. (which obviously shows MSNBC isn't, making it even more insidious). Let's have a look see at the core of the M$ plan to expoit ppl. (like MSNBC, the channel, every notice who buys all the ads there? All M$'s partners)
Bottom line, you can't trust any news sources, other than/., and even here most of it is wrong, spun, or opinion. (..and of course, M$ is evil and in need of a good slaying)
'''''';;;;;;..... (core vented. meltdown avoided. Good job Homer)
Got a gnome hat t'other day, great service from those guys. I NEED a/. tee (and a way cool one would be that much better)
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When Disney (Walt) got Florida to let him take over (for vast sums of money) they basically let him set up his own country. His own police force, own taxes, own roads, and the permission to build a nuclear power plant.
I read somewhere (after about 5 stories it all blurs together) that the virus originated in Israel. Seems more like a terrorist attack on corporate America to me, if that's correct. (or maybe just corporations as a whole) Not a bad way to conduct international terrorism, probably will result in more lost revenue that 100 bombings, and no one dies.
Our main problem is that we allow computer users to be too stupid.
Be careful here. The extremely vast majority of people use computers as simple tools, not icons of worship. Ease of use is VERY important.
Exclusive use of GUIs make stupid users.
Again with the ego. "Linux users are smart, everyone else is a bunch of freakin' loons." World Domination will never be achieved with such an attitude. People bitten, flamed, or shat upon, will not embrace something used by the biters, flamers, and shatters, no matter how cheap, powerful, or easy it is.
Give me a PC to fix and I can go to town, give me a car to fix and I'll stare blankly and fiddle with some screws. Just b/c people don't know what you know doesn't make them stupid. Saying they are makes you ignorant.
Wouldn't spending a few thousand years to blow up a star at a suitable distance be an interesting way of saying "hey, check out this part of the universe".
or maybe a good way to kill the organisms that just sprouted on a moon in the planet's system.:) (hey, it's a pessimism post, so I feel out of place)
And yeah was there a vast a mightly light shining down fron the heavens and lo did the many run in fear, for they felt the day of reckoning was at hand. Or maybe a star exploded 7500 years ago in a galaxy far, far away, who can tell.....
For some reason when I read articles like this, I am confronted with an image of a light puffy snowball rolling down a gentle hill. It just seems to get larger and larger and faster and faster the further it moves along the curve. Where is it going? Down to the lake, the beach? Who knows, but it destroys everything that stands in its way.
only if you want to make money though. Before you flame, try to grow up a bit. They obviously have people out there looking for new good technology, ICQ anyone? They have tons of cash, thanks to the herds of AOLer's, and it looks like the savvy to pull it off. On a good note they haven't f**ked with ICQ yet, so maybe they know when to keep hands off. Of course, they are here to make money (see subject line) so don't be surprised when they adopt a yearly subscription fee for all AOL(tm) software. Of course all that would do is make more people look for free stuff, so JUST KEEP CODING.
Just seems that the cults of personality that crop up are the compensations for a job well done and mass distibution of your work. Not a bad replacement for cash IMHO (mainly b/c it allows easier access to larger sums of said exchange material and that whole ego thing)
Just to be redundant......spell cheque, please, it makes you seem more preffesionel.
Overclocking a server? Why would you want to do that? O'clocking has a very core audience and they don't use servers (o.k. maybe Quake servers...). It's all about getting just a few more FPS (Frames Per Second for those of you that think computers are for working..) here and there, the difference bewteen dodging that rocket and taking it up the a$$. Most overclockers (in my experience) are those adolescent males that want top-notch power without the cost of buying high-end processors. Stability and longevity (you'll have to buy a new one in 18 months anyway) are not issues, it's just about blazing speed. Serious computer gaming requires near constant upgrades as you must stay on the bleeding edge to get the full experience, overclocking allows this at 1/4 the price. The Celery 3A has been a godsend to this niche, and we're really "sticking" it to Intel (this is sarcasm, How do you hurt a company buying it's products? silly reporter)
Meandering in thought with the guidance of caffeine.....
I've had USWest DSL service up here in northern Colorado for the past six months. Installation was o.k., although I think it was the techs first or second call. Haven't had a single problem and no down time. The only "problem" now is that I'm moving and the new building (apartment) can't support it.:( (that's a REALLY big frown)
Most of my friends who I have recommended the Matrix to saw it and their first reaction after leaving was "I want to see it again". Not only are the visuals sometimes too much to handle, but the underlying concepts are so much deeper than the vast majority of mass media, the viewing public is not geared to have to _think_ to understand a movie. Star Wars is about as mass media as they come, understandable and appealing to 8 or 80 year olds. Thus diluting the message and lowering the overall impact of the film. If given the choice at this point there is not question which movie I would want to see again....Matrix. ........... But to me, that is another place, one never experienced by the vast majority of people, and cyberspace is, increasingly a different reality, a virtual one, as the Matrix suggested. The virtual world is very much a place where things originate, develop and take shape -- continuously.
Feeling the groove, getting in the Zone, becoming One with whatever you do. This feeling is present and achievable in nearly any environment. You can get there coding,writing, reading, or playing hoops. That point where you cease to think and just move with the moment often without realizing it, it just is. Saying that the vast majority of people don't feel it is silly. I've had the same sense of "zoneness" playing Quake as I have playing football, and I would assume it can be attained knitting or kayaking or whatever.
Jon, decent article, try not to be so coy I spent several hours going from one to another, returning late at night for several nights. I was trawling through one of the last around midnight one night, tired and not really focusing, and I came across a lengthy and impassioned essay accusing a writer of self-interest and other short-comings and arguing that he didn't belong on a particular website. The piece struck me as angry, almost bitter, and I didn't like the writer being described either.....It wasn't until I looked at the piece more closely that I realized that the website was Slashdot and the writer was me. if it's the same article you mentioned before, which I've read, you must have been smoking something particularly nice because the name of the article is "The Katzdot Effect".
Whap happens when you sell out...
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"Some of the hobby-related things don't get done as much as they used to," he says. "I don't spend as much time modifying my home system as I used to. Then again, I also get to play with a lot more expensive toys than when I was doing this as a hobby."
It's all about cool toys...
I think it's great that hackers are getting paid to do what they love. Another post mentioned that all the stuff they develop is licensed under GPL, BSD, etc, and released back into the community. So what you get is the badasses working full-time to make things better and everyone benefits. I think this is a good example of how an "open source business model" works. More on the side of how the model can work for the workers, not necesarrily the stockholders. It's worth enough to companies to keep developement going that they hire what are basically community programmers (not programming for the company, but for the community at large). It's also been (being) shown that a well-developed and supported BRAND NAME is worth investing in. And how is a brand supported...SERVICE. You reach a point, because of the minor cost of the product itself, that a large percentage of revenue is directed at the one thing that sets you apart from the competition..service.
Or maybe marketing, we'll have to wait and see
(although I think more people are realizing that being told what a great OS you have is not necessarily reflective how great your OS is)
living forever is almost as horrible a curse as knowing the future. Scarcity creates value. If your Time was no longer limited, it's value would move to zero and you would end up trying to suicide, which you couldn't do b/c you're immortal.
My favorite immortal was from The HHGTTG series whose expressed immortal goal was the insult every living thing. Those are the kinds of things you'd have to do to fill up forever.
The trick is to make something seem like forever while keeping it finite, and oh what a trick it is.
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School Net filtering bills are nothing new, but the recent carnage at the nation's high schools has no doubt intensified concern about minors' online habits. The Juvenile Justice Bill is stacked with provisions in reaction to the incident in Littleton, Colorado, which left 14 students and one teacher dead. The incident also brought children's Net use into sharper focus, because the Littleton killers reportedly were heavy online users.
/. 'em come election time (it's how our system works, remember?)
Fallout from the disturbed. The only reason that this legislation is being brought up was the above mentioned event (as well as new attempts at laws to limit mass media). This makes even less sense b/c I seriously doubt the columbiners did their research at school. Wouldn't it make more sense to leave it open and then track usage through user id's? This allows educators to monitor usage, punish abusers, and would work to identify troubled students. It's much easier to identify erratic behavior when the behavee is given freedom as opposed to strict boundaries.
Another issue is that it would take place in libraries. I thought you went to a library to research and learn. Having access limited is like cordoning off entire wings of a library because of two or three bad books. The good is mixed with the bad and cutting out the "bad" results in excessive collateral damage.
Monitor your reps. votes and
wouldn't that be Holy Quartology, or is that blashphemous :-). I followed the first rule of stupid posters and didn't read the whole section, my brain (via the collective) had already remembered.
..what sci-fi did the "Clone Wars" come from. I can almost remember, maybe I need to clone some more brain cells...
BTW i suppose you wanted to say "send the clone at work and go to the Bahamas" because what you said is worse than the reality. Why would I pay a travel to the Bahamas to my clone if I must work for it??? Are you dumb ;)
that's why it was funny. If I make a clone for some spare parts, it would only be fair to keep it happy.
First off, most of these came from pre-"Halloween Documents" e-mails. That's almost 5 years internet time. And much of this sounds like pipe-dreams and wishful thinking.
/., and even here most of it is wrong, spun, or opinion. (..and of course, M$ is evil and in need of a good slaying)
One bad thing--
"Further, AOL plans to morph its ICQ instant messaging software into a desktop-based portal that would use Netscape technology as a browser -- something that could further increase its browser share."
Why, why, why do you take a very good niche product and try to make it everything? That philosophy makes software so large it creates it's own gravity, and it starts to suck. Will they turn WinAmp into a full-blown sound editing environment, with Mp3 support? My confidence in AOL's bidness acumen is diving past zero.
One other point...this was on MSNBC.com. (Yes,I read MSNBC, say what you will, MS knows GUI's) However, in the many stories I have read there (many on comp./int. news) this is by far the most biased. It's not subtle how they portray these companies, and I quote...
" "Our view of AOL is, let's take the interactivity they love and have come to depend on as a necessity in their life and take pieces of it linking it back to AOL and in the process finding new revenue streams per member so we're not only making new money for adding new members but adding devices that get revenue from the members," Pittman said. "
While this may be true, this paints a VERY negative picture of AOL from an "impartial" news source. (which obviously shows MSNBC isn't, making it even more insidious). Let's have a look see at the core of the M$ plan to expoit ppl.
(like MSNBC, the channel, every notice who buys all the ads there? All M$'s partners)
Bottom line, you can't trust any news sources, other than
'''''';;;;;;..... (core vented. meltdown avoided. Good job Homer)
hemp, hemp, hemp........(aaaaaahhhh, nothing better after a long daze work)
Got a gnome hat t'other day, great service from those guys. I NEED a /. tee (and a way cool one would be that much better)
When Disney (Walt) got Florida to let him take over (for vast sums of money) they basically let him set up his own country. His own police force, own taxes, own roads, and the permission to build a nuclear power plant.
I read somewhere (after about 5 stories it all blurs together) that the virus originated in Israel. Seems more like a terrorist attack on corporate America to me, if that's correct. (or maybe just corporations as a whole) Not a bad way to conduct international terrorism, probably will result in more lost revenue that 100 bombings, and no one dies.
NT:
100 Users@$200
2 Servers@$1000
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$22,000
Linux:
100 Users
2 Servers
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~$50
Of course this necessitates the skillz of a local Guru, but at least he doesn't have to explain what a BSOD is.
Free Beer Here! Now go get in your tank and make 'em all faster and more fuel efficient.
Our main problem is that we allow computer users to be too stupid.
Be careful here. The extremely vast majority of people use computers as simple tools, not icons of worship. Ease of use is VERY important.
Exclusive use of GUIs make stupid users.
Again with the ego. "Linux users are smart, everyone else is a bunch of freakin' loons." World Domination will never be achieved with such an attitude. People bitten, flamed, or shat upon, will not embrace something used by the biters, flamers, and shatters, no matter how cheap, powerful, or easy it is.
Give me a PC to fix and I can go to town, give me a car to fix and I'll stare blankly and fiddle with some screws. Just b/c people don't know what you know doesn't make them stupid. Saying they are makes you ignorant.
Giving money to a company to help fight M$, priceless.
Being on the winning side in the fight for World Domination, big bucks, no whammy's, STOP.
Wouldn't spending a few thousand years to blow up a star at a suitable distance be an interesting way of saying "hey, check out this part of the universe".
:)
or maybe a good way to kill the organisms that just sprouted on a moon in the planet's system.
(hey, it's a pessimism post, so I feel out of place)
And yeah was there a vast a mightly light shining down fron the heavens and lo did the many run in fear, for they felt the day of reckoning was at hand. Or maybe a star exploded 7500 years ago in a galaxy far, far away, who can tell.....
(whisper: first post, and a silly one at that)
For some reason when I read articles like this, I am confronted with an image of a light puffy snowball rolling down a gentle hill. It just seems to get larger and larger and faster and faster the further it moves along the curve. Where is it going? Down to the lake, the beach? Who knows, but it destroys everything that stands in its way.
Had their DSL service for 6 mos., loved it, no probs, great pings, great streams, had to move, now I'm sad.
only if you want to make money though. Before you flame, try to grow up a bit. They obviously have people out there looking for new good technology, ICQ anyone? They have tons of cash, thanks to the herds of AOLer's, and it looks like the savvy to pull it off. On a good note they haven't f**ked with ICQ yet, so maybe they know when to keep hands off. Of course, they are here to make money (see subject line) so don't be surprised when they adopt a yearly subscription fee for all AOL(tm) software. Of course all that would do is make more people look for free stuff, so JUST KEEP CODING.
Just seems that the cults of personality that crop up are the compensations for a job well done and mass distibution of your work. Not a bad replacement for cash IMHO (mainly b/c it allows easier access to larger sums of said exchange material and that whole ego thing)
Just to be redundant......spell cheque, please, it makes you seem more preffesionel.
Overclocking a server? Why would you want to do that? O'clocking has a very core audience and they don't use servers (o.k. maybe Quake servers...). It's all about getting just a few more FPS (Frames Per Second for those of you that think computers are for working..) here and there, the difference bewteen dodging that rocket and taking it up the a$$. Most overclockers (in my experience) are those adolescent males that want top-notch power without the cost of buying high-end processors. Stability and longevity (you'll have to buy a new one in 18 months anyway) are not issues, it's just about blazing speed. Serious computer gaming requires near constant upgrades as you must stay on the bleeding edge to get the full experience, overclocking allows this at 1/4 the price. The Celery 3A has been a godsend to this niche, and we're really "sticking" it to Intel (this is sarcasm, How do you hurt a company buying it's products? silly reporter)
Meandering in thought with the guidance of caffeine.....
I've had USWest DSL service up here in northern Colorado for the past six months. Installation was o.k., although I think it was the techs first or second call. Haven't had a single problem and no down time. The only "problem" now is that I'm moving and the new building (apartment) can't support it. :( (that's a REALLY big frown)
We pretty much lost that battle soundly.
It's pretty much an unwinable battle after everyone else catches up. M$ take heed and you won't almost drowned in the deep blue, like Big Blue did.
open-source is the chosen one, eh?
sounds fine to me.
Most of my friends who I have recommended the Matrix to saw it and their first reaction after leaving was "I want to see it again". Not only are the visuals sometimes too much to handle, but the underlying concepts are so much deeper than the vast majority of mass media, the viewing public is not geared to have to _think_ to understand a movie.
Star Wars is about as mass media as they come, understandable and appealing to 8 or 80 year olds. Thus diluting the message and lowering the overall impact of the film. If given the choice at this point there is not question which movie I would want to see again....Matrix.
...........
But to me, that is another place, one never experienced by the vast majority of people, and cyberspace is, increasingly a different reality, a virtual one, as the Matrix suggested. The virtual world is very much a place where things originate, develop and take shape -- continuously.
Feeling the groove, getting in the Zone, becoming One with whatever you do. This feeling is present and achievable in nearly any environment. You can get there coding,writing, reading, or playing hoops. That point where you cease to think and just move with the moment often without realizing it, it just is. Saying that the vast majority of people don't feel it is silly. I've had the same sense of "zoneness" playing Quake as I have playing football, and I would assume it can be attained knitting or kayaking or whatever.
Jon, decent article, try not to be so coy I spent several hours going from one to another, returning late at night for several nights. I was trawling through one of the last around midnight one night, tired and not really focusing, and I came across a lengthy and impassioned essay accusing a writer of self-interest and other short-comings and arguing that he didn't belong on a particular website. The piece struck me as angry, almost bitter, and I didn't like the writer being described either.....It wasn't until I looked at the piece more closely that I realized that the website was Slashdot and the writer was me.
if it's the same article you mentioned before, which I've read, you must have been smoking something particularly nice because the name of the article is "The Katzdot Effect".
"Some of the hobby-related things don't get done as much as they used to," he says. "I don't spend as much time modifying my home system as I used to. Then again, I also get to play with a lot more expensive toys than when I was doing this as a hobby."
It's all about cool toys...
I think it's great that hackers are getting paid to do what they love. Another post mentioned that all the stuff they develop is licensed under GPL, BSD, etc, and released back into the community. So what you get is the badasses working full-time to make things better and everyone benefits. I think this is a good example of how an "open source business model" works. More on the side of how the model can work for the workers, not necesarrily the stockholders. It's worth enough to companies to keep developement going that they hire what are basically community programmers (not programming for the company, but for the community at large). It's also been (being) shown that a well-developed and supported BRAND NAME is worth investing in. And how is a brand supported...SERVICE. You reach a point, because of the minor cost of the product itself, that a large percentage of revenue is directed at the one thing that sets you apart from the competition..service.
Or maybe marketing, we'll have to wait and see
(although I think more people are realizing that being told what a great OS you have is not necessarily reflective how great your OS is)
living forever is almost as horrible a curse as knowing the future. Scarcity creates value. If your Time was no longer limited, it's value would move to zero and you would end up trying to suicide, which you couldn't do b/c you're immortal.
My favorite immortal was from The HHGTTG series whose expressed immortal goal was the insult every living thing. Those are the kinds of things you'd have to do to fill up forever.
The trick is to make something seem like forever while keeping it finite, and oh what a trick it is.