I was old enough to have voted for Reagan both times as well, however my sense of ethics prevented me from doing that. I don't think you would find many Anderson supporters that would deny the existence of social conflict in the early '80s. Then again you may not find that many Anderson supporters. Diebold wasn't into voting machines yet, the only thing to blame the low number of Anderson votes on was the popular conception that "he didn't have a chance" as if voting for the eventual winner somehow validates one.
Okay, assume for jest a second that the congressional aides are doing this as part of their professional duties, on the clock so to speak. We know that they're doing it on the clock 'cause their doing it on the company network (uhgh, I sense my kettle turning black). A "company" network that is funded by us regular working stiffs who don't have pages about us on wikipedia BTW.
So the boss man has command the aides, pages, and other assorted (or sorid as the case may be) agents to un-besmirch the boss' entry on wickedpedia. What's to stop same form utterring "Takest thy laptop and goest tho forth unto that place that is known as STARBUCKS. There you shall find a network that clean and unblemished."
yeah. if that article was about something that somebody cared about peoples would have fixed it by now... But, since it's a merely an inane flame war reasonable men just try not to get any of it on their shoes as they go about their business.
But I agree that thems have too much time on their hands... then again, I read it, you knew about it to bring it to my attention, holy crap... we've become like them.
At least I know where the Platt River is. In this country we put the "river" part AFTER the name, boy! Who ever heard of the River Mississippi or the River Colorado, jeez lousie. I'm gonna have to egg somebody's house behind this.
I'm pretty sure that henry david spent some ink extoling the virtues of the loon, but maybe I'm think of something about him rather than by him... A play titled "the Night Thoreau Spent in Jail" maybe? It seems like the stuff about loons in Walden was a little subtle for me to grasp other than this ivy league slacker thought it was more fun to watch the loons go about their business than it was to kill and eat them. Ummmm, loon .
Still, all in all, I think we could do with more loons and fewer congressional pages. It seems the only good that these pages do is keep congresmen off the street by having illicit trysts with them. And, as we all, know when these congresmen aren't screwing their pages they're screwing the whole country. I guess the escallation to wikipedia has them getting into some strange stuff beyond the nation's borders too.
it's important the we the people attempt to teach values that the parents might disagree with, duh.
It's also important that parent's attempt to teach values that the government might disagree with.
If we fail to expose young people to conflicting values they might end up just blindly accepting what ever they find lying about. It's important thay they are taught that the government is crooked and their parents are full of it (but not as full of it as their peers).
I don't see any compelling evidence that an increase in price will decrease consumption, it will only increase the level of violence used in obtaining the commodity.
Imagine/recall a fiend with a pile of coke, they don't slow down, as the pile gets smaller. Gasaholics ain't so different.
When gas hit $3/gal in the states did people start taking the bus to work, not just no but rather #&%% no. They commenced to bitching and moaning but they kept pumping and didn't slow down. Wasn't that the single best quarter ever for the petrol companies? I can't believe that in a time when the pres and the veep both has such close ties to the oil industry that we could let the price escalate so much and harm the poor oil companies like that, those nasty EPA regulations have pretty much posted the wolf at their door non-stop, as soon as we can suspend them so that they can build more refineries there will be more gas and the price will go back down - But I digress... back to my drug analogy.
And with thems handing out gas for free at the playground there will be even more fiends looking to score as the supply dries up.
That's right I must be stupid or something because I think that consumption is going to increase, and continue to increase in spite of the decreasing supply. More and more peoples becoming industrialized will drive this increased consumption. Various peoples will start warring over the dwindling supply and that will drive increased consumption (ok, maybe 'start' is a bad thing to say here). During these wars various groups will seek to weaken their adversaries by disrupting thier fuel supplies witch will further squander the resource.
And then just about the time the last drop of petrol is squeezed outta the big ball we all live on, some yahoo is gonna discover an elixir made from it that cures old age or aids or cancer or something like that.
Volvo is one of the few companies that manufacture passenger cars that run on diesel. To my knowledge all the others are also N.Euporean. Mr. Diesel, as you may recall, originally fueled his prototypes on peanut oil - Or so I've always been led to believe. Motor fuel is probably the easiest of the energy uses to replace with renewable resources...
You gotta start out by looking at transportation, how much of do we really need? Most of our trips are pretty pointless, flying marketeers out to prospective customers so that they can feel like the vendor values their business. Hauling our overweight asses to the grocery store to get more Snickers bars. Dragging ourselves to the office so that we can punch the clock when all the really good ideas come to us in the shower anyway.
When I was a youngster very few families had two cars, at least not where one or more weren't up on blocks. It was common to see middle aged men in suits on city busses, and those city busses were run at a profit by private entities. Now even teenagers have to have cars to park at the neighborhood school all day (felines). And the local busses are subsidized in an attempt to the keep the riffraff off of the road and so that the domestics can get to work.
Internet technologies will certainly help to reduce our dependance on frivolous travel, or it should anyway - But I suspect that even as we speak some geek is traveling to the regional director's private residence to clear the cookies or update the virus signature file.
Yeah, I think I might like it in Sweden. Do they eat lefsa there or is that just next door?
Tivoli (and other products) has mechanisms to enforce policies. The hard part is making the policies... some PHB reads on glossy paper that if you buy this product or that product it will solve these problems. So he gets out the company check book, buys the product, tells dilbert to install it, and considers the issue resolved, without ever attempting to define what the issue was. We have lots of technology that can be made to enforce the policies. The tricky bit is defining what rules should be chiseled into the shifting sands. Heck, the few of us that read the article can't even form a concensus here about what the issue is, the original owner not having the data anymore or somebody else having. Storing master copies on a server rather than a watchfob would solve the former and strong encryption would go a long way to resolving the later.
The fundemental root of the problem is that the descision makers and policy setters frequently don't understand all of the ramifications of the issues.
the thing about teen-agers is that so few of them have any experience in the world of careers and accomplishments. Consequently most of what they know of this world in which many of us working stiff-drones exist is either from hearsay (e.g. dad comes home and says: "hey, I managed to dance with the crap weasles all day without getting my toes step on!") or from artistic representations of the working life, and it's not just "science" professions that get diss'd in this manner.
The people making movies and television shows work in an environment that is very much NOT like anything anybody that ever had even a tenuous grasp on the method have EVER done for a living. Even television's reality shows won't venture into the world of what people do at work, because work is not fun like going to the movies. If it were people wouldn't pay money to sit in the dark and watch flashing lights, they would just work more. It's very important for the movie and televison show makers to maintain the illusion that sitting around watching the lights flicker is more fun than actually doing something is, and they do this well.
The few shows that do explore various occupations tend to have more of a documentary flavor and seem to be based on the assumption that danger is synonomous with excitement. Nothing could be further from the truth. FOr example, commercial fishing is one of the more dnagerous jobs. I worked on a shrimp boat briefly in the '70s and thought that it was one of the most boring jobs I ever had, it smelled, I smelled, there was nothing romantic about working on a boat (mostly because you were on it with a bunch of smelly guys), the people I worked with were downright scary(and did I mention smelly), and I was covered in fish parts the entire time. Conversely, I worked in a blood bank in the '70s as well. While the work was somewhat tedious it did seem important (and we all need to feel like our work is important), my co-workers were gregorious and inteligent, I got to sleep in my own bed every night(except when I was, well... doing what I couldn't do out on the shrimp boat) and I could wash my hands when ever I wanted to.
It doesn't take a masters degree or even a particular brainy type to be a centerfuge tech and I certainly wouldn't have refered to myself as a scientist while I was one (nor while I was a phelbotomist, FTM) but I did get to wear a lab coat. I would highly recomend professions in the health care industry over commercial fishing based on my experiences. Does this mean that science is more fun that boating? well when you're on the clock it is!
the problem is that for some time now the flighty, can't settle types have been reproducing at a disportionately high level and the methodical people have been aparently practicing safe-sex.
The internet was a much more productive place before it got infected with all this html stuff.
We need to find a way to breed out the people that are only looking at the pictures.
I'm not sure that this 'filter' effect is intentional. I'm not doubting it, tho.
I think, based on what I'm seeing from my kids HS teachers, that a lot of the people that are teaching science don't think of themselves as 'brainy' and don't really grok science that encompass both the "hmmm, that's funny" creativity aspect and the "large enough sample to be conclusive" repeatative, hard working parts.
But, I really haven't cut open enough science teachers to formulate a conclussion.
yeppers! If people wanted to know about computers they would learn... There is already about a bazillion books about various aspects of the subject. Is this new one gonna be an index to thems? Or maybe an overview of them all?
There was a post a couple days ago about a guy that wanted everybody to help make a book about all the known science (or was it the sum of all knowledge), maybe you could just bootleg a section from that one.
So if you abdicate your civic responsibility you're relieved of the burden of subsidies and you no longer pollute, COOL! And I didn't really like either of the candidates anyway, I don't think either party is much fun, I'll just stop participating and then...
my hummer won't spew toxic fumes, my AC won't leak CFCs, best of all, my FARTS WONT STINK!
Capitalists or companies, profiteers, PHBs or however you want to refer to these entities that we use to hide ourselves behind and rationalize our greedy behaviour are looking to maximize the margin or profit or gain or progress or what ever you want to call the pile of largess.
Tax payer funded subsidies jingle nicely in our pockets.
But the greatest opportunity for a windfall lies in times of crisis. Anything we can do to foster panic will only help to maximize profits. The problem now is that there is just too much supply to really get the prices up there.
We try and try to increase the demand but each person can only do so much. Now if we could get China to loosen up those horid government restrictions and allow the people to multiply properly we might be able to get the invisible hand to pour a little into our pockets.
If things (like politicians) are for sale it must be capitalism. Capitalism is an economic system. A monarchy is a governmental system. I'm not aware of any socialist or communist monarchies... You pick a monarchy that has some economic system other than capitalism and I'll pick... well there aren't that many morachies left are there...
Let's investigate, how's about the good ol' fact book: http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.h tml What does it say about the government: "constitutional monarchy" What does it say about the economic system: "The Norwegian economy is a prosperous bastion of welfare capitalism, featuring a combination of free market activity and government intervention.""
FURTHERMORE: I don't see how you can come off claiming that Mexico doesn't have a capitalist economic system - Are you on crack or just have your head up one?
oh, but don't take my word for it... see your proctologist immediately. The CIA fact book has this to say about Mexico's economy: "Mexico has a free market economy that recently entered the trillion dollar class." Which is just the sort of thing you would expect from a federal republic (oh, I bet your head was up there during 8th grade social studies too - a federal republic is the type of government utilized by the US).
We're not desparate yet, and we're not gonna be! We can keep that supply of foreign oil comming FOREVER! And when it runs out they'll think of something else.
Saying that people should use alternative energy source and reduce consumption is TREASON! Curb side recycling is governmental waste and will destroy the country. Bio-diesel and ethanol are terrorist plots to make us dependant on agricultural energy so that we wont be able to grow any food and to keep us from spending money with our friends, the House of Saud.
Let me see if I'm getting this straight: That rat bastard Mao made all the chinese hungry, they had been having it so good under the captialist monarchy. Their economy was so robust that they would have subjugated Japan had the U.S. not interveaned in the 1940s. But then, after the war, the gang of four came along and enslaved them all and took away Jesus. But Dick Nixon went over there in the 1970s and brought salvation to them. Now they should burn as much coal as they can beacuse it's actualy good for the environment. Unfortunately, there aren't enough Chinese people to really turn the wheels of commerce, but as soon as they vote to stop giving away condoms in the schools their population will increase and they'll all get richer. And we should all drive hummers to keep the newly free and rich Chinese from conquoring us like they did Tibet.
There is no polution, recycling and convservation are plots perputrated by pinko commies that want to destroy the bill of rights and force us into a totalitarian therocracy.
-you just keep thinking, Butch. That's what your good at.
With all that extra green house gas heating the place up we're gonna need more fuel to run our air conditioners more.
We need to increase federal funding for oil exploration and drilling now so that the new piplines & refineries can be on line when people start cranking down their thermostats.
The thing I didn't get from the UNH postings was why the alge had to be grown on land, he's all on about using salt water to save the expense of desalination, then right there outta the same mouth he's pumping it to the freaking desert. Man, I been to the desert and it's a long way, long way to haul the water and a long way to haul the oil to get it to the power plant. Why don't they do like the whalers and just squish the oil out right there on the boat, then it's already aboard the exxon valdez and ready to spill. Couldn't they float a big honking sheet of plastic out behind the boat and then haul it in to harvest? It would be a lot less pipe if you only had to pump the water from under the plastic to over the plastic, 15 or 20 mils tops. And then you could move the whole thing so that it was in the sun all the time, which if I remember correctly the amount of sunshine was the reason NewHampshire boy wanted to utilize the desert in the first place.
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I was old enough to have voted for Reagan both times as well, however my sense of ethics prevented me from doing that. I don't think you would find many Anderson supporters that would deny the existence of social conflict in the early '80s. Then again you may not find that many Anderson supporters. Diebold wasn't into voting machines yet, the only thing to blame the low number of Anderson votes on was the popular conception that "he didn't have a chance" as if voting for the eventual winner somehow validates one.
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dang, I wished I'd said that
Okay, assume for jest a second that the congressional aides are doing this as part of their professional duties, on the clock so to speak. We know that they're doing it on the clock 'cause their doing it on the company network (uhgh, I sense my kettle turning black). A "company" network that is funded by us regular working stiffs who don't have pages about us on wikipedia BTW.
So the boss man has command the aides, pages, and other assorted (or sorid as the case may be) agents to un-besmirch the boss' entry on wickedpedia. What's to stop same form utterring "Takest thy laptop and goest tho forth unto that place that is known as STARBUCKS. There you shall find a network that clean and unblemished."
yeah. if that article was about something that somebody cared about peoples would have fixed it by now... But, since it's a merely an inane flame war reasonable men just try not to get any of it on their shoes as they go about their business.
But I agree that thems have too much time on their hands... then again, I read it, you knew about it to bring it to my attention, holy crap... we've become like them.
At least I know where the Platt River is. In this country we put the "river" part AFTER the name, boy! Who ever heard of the River Mississippi or the River Colorado, jeez lousie. I'm gonna have to egg somebody's house behind this.
I'm pretty sure that henry david spent some ink extoling the virtues of the loon, but maybe I'm think of something about him rather than by him... A play titled "the Night Thoreau Spent in Jail" maybe? It seems like the stuff about loons in Walden was a little subtle for me to grasp other than this ivy league slacker thought it was more fun to watch the loons go about their business than it was to kill and eat them. Ummmm, loon .
Still, all in all, I think we could do with more loons and fewer congressional pages. It seems the only good that these pages do is keep congresmen off the street by having illicit trysts with them. And, as we all, know when these congresmen aren't screwing their pages they're screwing the whole country. I guess the escallation to wikipedia has them getting into some strange stuff beyond the nation's borders too.
When the going get's looney the looney turn pro ...or something like that
it's important the we the people attempt to teach values that the parents might disagree with, duh.
It's also important that parent's attempt to teach values that the government might disagree with.
If we fail to expose young people to conflicting values they might end up just blindly accepting what ever they find lying about. It's important thay they are taught that the government is crooked and their parents are full of it (but not as full of it as their peers).
I don't see any compelling evidence that an increase in price will decrease consumption, it will only increase the level of violence used in obtaining the commodity.
Imagine/recall a fiend with a pile of coke, they don't slow down, as the pile gets smaller. Gasaholics ain't so different.
When gas hit $3/gal in the states did people start taking the bus to work, not just no but rather #&%% no. They commenced to bitching and moaning but they kept pumping and didn't slow down. Wasn't that the single best quarter ever for the petrol companies? I can't believe that in a time when the pres and the veep both has such close ties to the oil industry that we could let the price escalate so much and harm the poor oil companies like that, those nasty EPA regulations have pretty much posted the wolf at their door non-stop, as soon as we can suspend them so that they can build more refineries there will be more gas and the price will go back down - But I digress... back to my drug analogy.
And with thems handing out gas for free at the playground there will be even more fiends looking to score as the supply dries up.
That's right I must be stupid or something because I think that consumption is going to increase, and continue to increase in spite of the decreasing supply. More and more peoples becoming industrialized will drive this increased consumption. Various peoples will start warring over the dwindling supply and that will drive increased consumption (ok, maybe 'start' is a bad thing to say here). During these wars various groups will seek to weaken their adversaries by disrupting thier fuel supplies witch will further squander the resource.
And then just about the time the last drop of petrol is squeezed outta the big ball we all live on, some yahoo is gonna discover an elixir made from it that cures old age or aids or cancer or something like that.
Volvo is one of the few companies that manufacture passenger cars that run on diesel. To my knowledge all the others are also N.Euporean. Mr. Diesel, as you may recall, originally fueled his prototypes on peanut oil - Or so I've always been led to believe. Motor fuel is probably the easiest of the energy uses to replace with renewable resources...
You gotta start out by looking at transportation, how much of do we really need? Most of our trips are pretty pointless, flying marketeers out to prospective customers so that they can feel like the vendor values their business. Hauling our overweight asses to the grocery store to get more Snickers bars. Dragging ourselves to the office so that we can punch the clock when all the really good ideas come to us in the shower anyway.
When I was a youngster very few families had two cars, at least not where one or more weren't up on blocks. It was common to see middle aged men in suits on city busses, and those city busses were run at a profit by private entities. Now even teenagers have to have cars to park at the neighborhood school all day (felines). And the local busses are subsidized in an attempt to the keep the riffraff off of the road and so that the domestics can get to work.
Internet technologies will certainly help to reduce our dependance on frivolous travel, or it should anyway - But I suspect that even as we speak some geek is traveling to the regional director's private residence to clear the cookies or update the virus signature file.
Yeah, I think I might like it in Sweden. Do they eat lefsa there or is that just next door?
Tivoli (and other products) has mechanisms to enforce policies.
The hard part is making the policies... some PHB reads on glossy paper that if you buy this product or that product it will solve these problems. So he gets out the company check book, buys the product, tells dilbert to install it, and considers the issue resolved, without ever attempting to define what the issue was. We have lots of technology that can be made to enforce the policies. The tricky bit is defining what rules should be chiseled into the shifting sands. Heck, the few of us that read the article can't even form a concensus here about what the issue is, the original owner not having the data anymore or somebody else having. Storing master copies on a server rather than a watchfob would solve the former and strong encryption would go a long way to resolving the later.
The fundemental root of the problem is that the descision makers and policy setters frequently don't understand all of the ramifications of the issues.
It's worked out pretty well in Sweden, nobody tells dumb swede jokes anymore.
the thing about teen-agers is that so few of them have any experience in the world of careers and accomplishments. Consequently most of what they know of this world in which many of us working stiff-drones exist is either from hearsay (e.g. dad comes home and says: "hey, I managed to dance with the crap weasles all day without getting my toes step on!") or from artistic representations of the working life, and it's not just "science" professions that get diss'd in this manner.
The people making movies and television shows work in an environment that is very much NOT like anything anybody that ever had even a tenuous grasp on the method have EVER done for a living. Even television's reality shows won't venture into the world of what people do at work, because work is not fun like going to the movies. If it were people wouldn't pay money to sit in the dark and watch flashing lights, they would just work more. It's very important for the movie and televison show makers to maintain the illusion that sitting around watching the lights flicker is more fun than actually doing something is, and they do this well.
The few shows that do explore various occupations tend to have more of a documentary flavor and seem to be based on the assumption that danger is synonomous with excitement. Nothing could be further from the truth. FOr example, commercial fishing is one of the more dnagerous jobs. I worked on a shrimp boat briefly in the '70s and thought that it was one of the most boring jobs I ever had, it smelled, I smelled, there was nothing romantic about working on a boat (mostly because you were on it with a bunch of smelly guys), the people I worked with were downright scary(and did I mention smelly), and I was covered in fish parts the entire time. Conversely, I worked in a blood bank in the '70s as well. While the work was somewhat tedious it did seem important (and we all need to feel like our work is important), my co-workers were gregorious and inteligent, I got to sleep in my own bed every night(except when I was, well... doing what I couldn't do out on the shrimp boat) and I could wash my hands when ever I wanted to.
It doesn't take a masters degree or even a particular brainy type to be a centerfuge tech and I certainly wouldn't have refered to myself as a scientist while I was one (nor while I was a phelbotomist, FTM) but I did get to wear a lab coat. I would highly recomend professions in the health care industry over commercial fishing based on my experiences. Does this mean that science is more fun that boating? well when you're on the clock it is!
the problem is that for some time now the flighty, can't settle types have been reproducing at a disportionately high level and the methodical people have been aparently practicing safe-sex.
The internet was a much more productive place before it got infected with all this html stuff.
We need to find a way to breed out the people that are only looking at the pictures.
I'm not sure that this 'filter' effect is intentional. I'm not doubting it, tho.
I think, based on what I'm seeing from my kids HS teachers, that a lot of the people that are teaching science don't think of themselves as 'brainy' and don't really grok science that encompass both the "hmmm, that's funny" creativity aspect and the "large enough sample to be conclusive" repeatative, hard working parts.
But, I really haven't cut open enough science teachers to formulate a conclussion.
...does it take to unscrew a N. Korean nuke?
It sounds like the pupeteer has plans for both foreign and domestic uses.
with the poor gone, where will the organ donors come from?
I never got much of an education and I couldn't tell a metaphor from a simile.
BUT, wouldn't saying that it works exactly like a file cabinet be the sort of comparision that you started the rant with?
yeppers!
If people wanted to know about computers they would learn...
There is already about a bazillion books about various aspects of the subject. Is this new one gonna be an index to thems? Or maybe an overview of them all?
There was a post a couple days ago about a guy that wanted everybody to help make a book about all the known science (or was it the sum of all knowledge), maybe you could just bootleg a section from that one.
Those who would sacrifice liberty for safety will have neither liberty nor safety. -BF
So if you abdicate your civic responsibility you're relieved of the burden of subsidies and you no longer pollute, COOL! And I didn't really like either of the candidates anyway, I don't think either party is much fun, I'll just stop participating and then...
my hummer won't spew toxic fumes,
my AC won't leak CFCs,
best of all, my FARTS WONT STINK!
Capitalists or companies, profiteers, PHBs or however you want to refer to these entities that we use to hide ourselves behind and rationalize our greedy behaviour are looking to maximize the margin or profit or gain or progress or what ever you want to call the pile of largess.
Tax payer funded subsidies jingle nicely in our pockets.
But the greatest opportunity for a windfall lies in times of crisis. Anything we can do to foster panic will only help to maximize profits. The problem now is that there is just too much supply to really get the prices up there.
We try and try to increase the demand but each person can only do so much. Now if we could get China to loosen up those horid government restrictions and allow the people to multiply properly we might be able to get the invisible hand to pour a little into our pockets.
If things (like politicians) are for sale it must be capitalism. Capitalism is an economic system. A monarchy is a governmental system. I'm not aware of any socialist or communist monarchies... You pick a monarchy that has some economic system other than capitalism and I'll pick... well there aren't that many morachies left are there...
h tml
Let's investigate, how's about the good ol' fact book: http://cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/no.
What does it say about the government: "constitutional monarchy"
What does it say about the economic system: "The Norwegian economy is a prosperous bastion of welfare capitalism, featuring a combination of free market activity and government intervention.""
FURTHERMORE:
I don't see how you can come off claiming that Mexico doesn't have a capitalist economic system - Are you on crack or just have your head up one?
oh, but don't take my word for it... see your proctologist immediately.
The CIA fact book has this to say about Mexico's economy: "Mexico has a free market economy that recently entered the trillion dollar class." Which is just the sort of thing you would expect from a federal republic (oh, I bet your head was up there during 8th grade social studies too - a federal republic is the type of government utilized by the US).
We're not desparate yet, and we're not gonna be! We can keep that supply of foreign oil comming FOREVER! And when it runs out they'll think of something else.
Saying that people should use alternative energy source and reduce consumption is TREASON! Curb side recycling is governmental waste and will destroy the country. Bio-diesel and ethanol are terrorist plots to make us dependant on agricultural energy so that we wont be able to grow any food and to keep us from spending money with our friends, the House of Saud.
Vegetarians need to have their phones tapped.
Let me see if I'm getting this straight:
That rat bastard Mao made all the chinese hungry, they had been having it so good under the captialist monarchy. Their economy was so robust that they would have subjugated Japan had the U.S. not interveaned in the 1940s. But then, after the war, the gang of four came along and enslaved them all and took away Jesus. But Dick Nixon went over there in the 1970s and brought salvation to them. Now they should burn as much coal as they can beacuse it's actualy good for the environment. Unfortunately, there aren't enough Chinese people to really turn the wheels of commerce, but as soon as they vote to stop giving away condoms in the schools their population will increase and they'll all get richer. And we should all drive hummers to keep the newly free and rich Chinese from conquoring us like they did Tibet.
There is no polution, recycling and convservation are plots perputrated by pinko commies that want to destroy the bill of rights and force us into a totalitarian therocracy.
-you just keep thinking, Butch. That's what your good at.
With all that extra green house gas heating the place up we're gonna need more fuel to run our air conditioners more.
We need to increase federal funding for oil exploration and drilling now so that the new piplines & refineries can be on line when people start cranking down their thermostats.
The thing I didn't get from the UNH postings was why the alge had to be grown on land, he's all on about using salt water to save the expense of desalination, then right there outta the same mouth he's pumping it to the freaking desert. Man, I been to the desert and it's a long way, long way to haul the water and a long way to haul the oil to get it to the power plant. Why don't they do like the whalers and just squish the oil out right there on the boat, then it's already aboard the exxon valdez and ready to spill. Couldn't they float a big honking sheet of plastic out behind the boat and then haul it in to harvest? It would be a lot less pipe if you only had to pump the water from under the plastic to over the plastic, 15 or 20 mils tops. And then you could move the whole thing so that it was in the sun all the time, which if I remember correctly the amount of sunshine was the reason NewHampshire boy wanted to utilize the desert in the first place.