If I want to send you to my web site, I don't give you my IP address, I give you my host name. However, if I want you to call my cell, I have to give you my cell phone number.
By accident I got a phone number which translates to a nice, easy to remember word. Hence, I always give the word instead of the number. So, when I get a new carrier, I just need to find some other numbers that spell the same word:) (Trust me, someone, somewhere thinks that makes sense.)
Wasn't it determined that DVD is evil long ago with the DVD/CSS protest thing after the arrest? Am I the last one wearing the No DVD t-shirt with the css_descramble.c source written on the back?
The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows
First thing that came to my mind was "sure glad the government had that anti-trust thing going against MicroSoft before Indiana required everyone in the state to pay taxes for a system that requires Windows". First thoughts generally aren't all that well thought out, but I think it touches on the point in a nice brief way.
And, from scrolling down, I noticed people touching on google. Well, since I'm in a bad mood, I'll pick on them too. Why the heck doesn't their blogger site work worth a darn in FireFox?
O.k. that's enough stupid ranting for today.
For more info on WhenU.com you can e-mail them at information@whenumail.com. I am sure they look forward to hearing from you. They sound like at GREAT place to advertise. I am surprised slashdot and OSDN don't use them.
Hey, I did that once! Was on vacation, had way too much to drink, and got the bright idea to ssh into work to do a few things. Accidentally did an rm -f * on what I thought was a local temp directory. But I was still connected to the remote server (and was not in a temp directory). Oops.
Bottom line, secure netork requires remote access to include a breathalyzer.
Bottomer line, I did the above trick on linux boxes, but never did any such thing on a Windows machine, therefore Windows is more secure than linux <|:0
For anyone who's buying from them, stay away from the accessories.
For some strange reason, I don't agree with that. If you are looking to go the cheap route for a linux laptop, you are better off installing it yourself. But, if you want simplicity, the extra money is nothing. In addition, spending a bit more is nice to support a company that is trying to be good.
But because I am a raging hypocrite, in a few weeks I'm buying an Apple notebook.:P My first time without a linux laptop since buying a brand spanking new 25 MHz 486 with 4 meg of ram just for linux (and four newer models since then).
>>"It was cute how you tried to toss in two server >> apps (IIS and Exchange)."
> Microsoft isn't the market leader in either app, > so what's so 'cute' about it?
O.k., I'll bite. On the MS platform I think IIS and Exchange are the market leaders. I don't know too many shops that that use alternate software if they chose MS for the server OS. MS would really like to dominate the server environment, and as their share grows, so grows the popularity of the apps.
As for my personal take on the AV debate, I would like to see MS buy out Panda Antivirus and include it in the standard OS, and even stick in in Windows Update. Would make my life much easier. But, while I'm dreaming, I would also like to see MS decide to embrace open source, and all those virus writes should start being nice. That would make me happy!
First, I must apologize - I've only quickly scanned maybe half of the comments above 2. So, hopefully this has been touched on...
I think the best thing to do is to get people using apps that run on linux. Promote OpenOffice, FireFox, gimp, et al (including GNU utilities for the real wannabe's). When they are accustomed to the apps, the change of OS isn't much worse than a Windows upgrade.
I hear lots of ripping on linux docs, but, let us be honest, Windows help ain't much to brag about. The average end user has very little interest in the details of the OS, and these people shouldn't have to fret about it. Those who are geeks shouldn't have a hard time learning linux. But if people have to learn the quirks of a new system AND new apps, well, that is just a lot to ask.
OK, fine. I'll just take all of my thousands of digital photos collected over the years, which are now organized in nested directories so that I can easily find photos of my kids
I just counted, and I have 19 pictures. I've never counted, but I suspect 80% of the time the spatial browser is best for me in my current day to day use. On the other hand, there are times when I just hate the spatial browser. Several years ago I used a Mac at work, and the first thing I did was install a shareware app that immitated the NeXT file browser. We had thousands of files, and throughout the course of the day I had to access different stuff in wildly different places, and I couldn't think of a good way to organize the files that would be conducive to the spatial thing.
I always thought it painfully obvious that a desktop environment needs to implement two clearly different apps for file browsing. I think the different views for one app are on the confusing side. e.g. When I'm traversing the file system, I want a divided window that allows navigation. When I want access to a single commonly used folder, I want to just see the contents of that one folder. Granted, there are implementations of this already on any system, but I find them somewhat awkward. Guess I pine for the days of the old Mac -- I got spacial when I clicked an OS link, but when I opened my shareware app I got multi-directory navigation in a single window.
I'm not entirely sure what the big rush is to go to college. I recommend living in a foreign country first, preferably one with a different language and a different culture than your own. Find a university or college town or smaller city in this country and plop yourself down for a year to learn the language.
I strongly agree with this. I went to college because everyone else did. It was expected. If I was smart I would have worked full time after highschool and taken one class at a time until I was ready for full time college. Instead I just partied every night and flunked out. Then did the same thing again at a different school after ignoring the first college on my application. I sounded just like the submitter of this question when I was 18. STUPID.
No dishonor in working whatever job can be found until you have a better idea of what direction you want to go with your life. Learning a new language and visiting a new country can do wonders. (Been there, done that, loved it.) Mexico is a great choice. The people I met were very friendly and helpful despite my lacking Spanish skills. I was denied a legal work permit, but there are ways around that. The best part of going to a new land where you know nobody is that you will have to submit and learn to rely on people you don't know, and, in turn, you will have to gain their trust. The lack of language skills will improve your ability to comminicate.
Quite simply, I don't think everyone is ready for college at 18. Yes, a college degree is a very good thing, but you don't need it immediately. Chances are an 18 year old kid today is going to live to 100. What's the rush to get a good job and settle down? Wait too long, and you'll be out of sync with your age group, which will be difficult. But, killing a couple of years ain't a big deal.
The post says "Linux based PMP-120 media player which through its colour screen can support MP3, ASF, Ogg Vorbis, JPEG, BMP, AVI, MP4, DivX 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, XviD, MPEG4 SP, Advanced SP and MPEG1."
But the web site says "Up to 600 hours of music using Windows Media format at 64kbps." I never realized I could play wm on linux. Uhm, learn something new every day.
So clearly, 'limited user' is not the way to properly limit the users so they cannot install spyware.
I don't know if that is true or not. But I do know that when you set up an admin account for the folks, and user accounts for the kids, the kids will only use the parents account. Typically the parents could use a user account and not complain much, but the kids are the ones who want to visit sites that require lowering security in the browser, install games and such. The parents may try to monitor the kids at first, but they will get tired of the pestering and just give up the password. Too much experience with this.
If they're unemployed, then they're obviously not the ones who are growing the food, driving the trucks, and removing the garbage.
Actually, the stupid and lazy people don't collect unemployment. That is for the smart and lazy people. Level of education has nothing to do with being smart or stupid, but I'm quite sure, the better educated you are, the better you will be at milking the system. And don't get me started on corporate welfare... As this is a somewhat MS related thread, I'll try to bring it back on topic. Just how much tax money ends up at Microsoft? Answer: mucho dinero.
They have blocked OEMs from putting out useful products (e.g. dual-boot computers).
You list this, I assume, as a bad thing. Selling dual-boot boxes is just silly and confusing. Back in the day, a cousin of mine was an OS/2 fanatic. He talked another cousin into buying a computer with Windows and OS/2. When I inquired how the recient liked OS/2, the reply was "I've opened that _program_ a couple times, but I couldn't figure out what it's supposed to do". I highly suspect that far too many geeks would recommend Linux dual-boots, and the results would be the same. Ignorant users would assume they knew Linux because they had it on their computer, although they never really understood what it was, found Windows far more useful because it did Office and games etc, and they would just disregard Linux in the future. I find it far better to let them find Linux on their own because of Windows problems, or go with an all Linux system with plenty of training.
P.S. Just started reading this thread, and I couldn't help but wonder. There are ~1,400 comments, yet I doubt there are 1,400 readers of slashdot who use Linux exclusively at home. I find it kinda funny.
Is it just me, or does Professor Tanenbaum really seem like the man lately?
Maybe because I read at mod 2 and above I haven't seen the comment, but I am convinced that Ken Brown is a creation of IBM in some clever artsy type ad campaign for Linux.
The only sense I can make of this debate comes from Mark Twain's "of course reality is stranger than fiction, fiction has to make sense" type comment.
quote from Hackers and Painters
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I just read the "Hackers and Painters" essay. A note that struck me as odd is this, "The influence of fashion is not nearly so great in hacking as it is in painting." I suspect the influence of fashion is nearly equal (regardless of interpretation).
Main difference being, artists who ignore fashion may be remembered hundreds of years later despite not being popular during their lifetimes. However, I suspect that other than a couple of early programmers, all hackers will be quickly forgotten. Nice old paintings sell for big bucks, but old code is just trivia for geeks.
Unlike Windows which began as a game-playing, home-using OS and has been modified into something it was never designed to be.
I think Unix started as a game playing, single user OS.
When Bell Labs withdrew from the Multics research consortium, Ken Thompson was left with some Multics-inspired ideas about how to build a file system. He was also left without a machine on which to play a game he had written called Space Travel, a science-fiction simulation that involved navigating a rocket through the solar system. Unix began its life on a scavenged PDP-7 minicomputer, as a platform for the Space Travel game
> Synchronization of our Internet bookmarks
> across all our computers.
> The Files and Settings Transfer Wizard lets you
> transfer whatever you want.
No, no, there once was a great little app that synched bookmarks for IE on Windows and Mac computers. It was great. You would have the same bookmarks all all your computers that used IE. Modify them on one box, when you go to the next box, they were automatically updated. Do a clean reinstall of the OS, and whoop, there are your good old bookmarks. On a linux box or somewhere you you don't have the app installed, no problem, go to the web site, and all your bookmarks were stored for you with no effort on your part. Sadly the company went out of biz a couple years ago:(
Hey wouldn't it be funny if/. or Linux Today posted the Microsoft ads, but allowed comments on them?
I once considered making a website that was just banner ads with comments on the banners. But a) bannerfarm.com was already taken, and b) I didn't think I could draw enough visitors to get enough comments to make it interesting. But I still like the idea.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that everytime a porn site is visited (even accidentally) it opens 20-some-odd popup windows...
That's why you go to pop up free sites. Duh? The Hun is my favorite. But there are several others. Adult Links 4 Adults also rocks. WorldSex has lots of hardcore. If I recall Sublime directory is also quality free stuff. All of these sites offer daily updated links to galleries without pop ups and the sponsors advertised are also devoid of annoying pop ups (in case you click an ad by accident). They aren't "CJ" sites that just send you to more links. Simply free porn to rack up the page views to increase the rates they can charge for banners and paid gallery placement.
Unlike viruses or worms, it's not at all clear where the line is between "good" and "bad."
Personally, I draw the line in the "Add/Remove Software" control panel. If the app has a clear definition and can be removed as easily as a legit piece of software, then it is alright by me. (This also implies that it was voluntarly installed as any other piece of software, i.e. went to download.com or similar place and selected the software based on an honest description to fill a users need.) I have no idea why someone would volunteer to have a computer used as a spam relay or be subjected to endless pop ups, but if that's what people want, so be it. But it should also be easy to remove without the use of extra software.
The mere idea that special software is neeeded to remove the junk, and, yet, no one is being prosecuted makes me very very angry. However, as I haven't had a personal computer infected with anything in a few years, I don't have anything to go.
Jerry died but the bootlegs live on FOREVER. Can listen on the web at GD Radio or download using Furthur
And the other guys are still putting out some cool tunes. So I really don't see the problem. The Dead got music as close to perfect as humanly possible, so there really isn't much room for innovation.
I agree with you 100% about the majority of Americans being stupid fucks though. And the scary part is that their votes count just as much as mine.
This line of thought annoys me as much as the "everyone needs to vote" promotion. Last time you voted, how many choices were there for any office? Usually two, sometimes only one. Toss a coin 1000 times, and it probably won't be a perfect 50/50. That's really all we got with elections, regardless of how many people vote.
In regards to smart people being more important, I say bull. There are well thought out reasons for both parties, and an equal split amoungst those who follow politics as to which candidate is better. Granted, there are rare execptions, but that hardly requires a return to a monarchy.
I really feel like babbling about this for a good long time, so I'd better shut up right about
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If I want to send you to my web site, I don't give you my IP address, I give you my host name. However, if I want you to call my cell, I have to give you my cell phone number.
By accident I got a phone number which translates to a nice, easy to remember word. Hence, I always give the word instead of the number. So, when I get a new carrier, I just need to find some other numbers that spell the same word :) (Trust me, someone, somewhere thinks that makes sense.)
As for the guy who wants to keep his IP, I think he is a twit. Obligatory Monty Python link here
Wasn't it determined that DVD is evil long ago with the DVD/CSS protest thing after the arrest? Am I the last one wearing the No DVD t-shirt with the css_descramble.c source written on the back?
The software can be downloaded on the SimIndiana site, but requires Windows
First thing that came to my mind was "sure glad the government had that anti-trust thing going against MicroSoft before Indiana required everyone in the state to pay taxes for a system that requires Windows". First thoughts generally aren't all that well thought out, but I think it touches on the point in a nice brief way.
And, from scrolling down, I noticed people touching on google. Well, since I'm in a bad mood, I'll pick on them too. Why the heck doesn't their blogger site work worth a darn in FireFox? O.k. that's enough stupid ranting for today.
For more info on WhenU.com you can e-mail them at information@whenumail.com. I am sure they look forward to hearing from you. They sound like at GREAT place to advertise. I am surprised slashdot and OSDN don't use them.
[/troll]Let's get drunk and delete production data!
Hey, I did that once! Was on vacation, had way too much to drink, and got the bright idea to ssh into work to do a few things. Accidentally did an rm -f * on what I thought was a local temp directory. But I was still connected to the remote server (and was not in a temp directory). Oops.
Bottom line, secure netork requires remote access to include a breathalyzer.
Bottomer line, I did the above trick on linux boxes, but never did any such thing on a Windows machine, therefore Windows is more secure than linux
<|:0
For anyone who's buying from them, stay away from the accessories.
For some strange reason, I don't agree with that. If you are looking to go the cheap route for a linux laptop, you are better off installing it yourself. But, if you want simplicity, the extra money is nothing. In addition, spending a bit more is nice to support a company that is trying to be good.
But because I am a raging hypocrite, in a few weeks I'm buying an Apple notebook. :P My first time without a linux laptop since buying a brand spanking new 25 MHz 486 with 4 meg of ram just for linux (and four newer models since then).
>>"It was cute how you tried to toss in two server
>> apps (IIS and Exchange)."
> Microsoft isn't the market leader in either app,
> so what's so 'cute' about it?
O.k., I'll bite. On the MS platform I think IIS and Exchange are the market leaders. I don't know too many shops that that use alternate software if they chose MS for the server OS. MS would really like to dominate the server environment, and as their share grows, so grows the popularity of the apps.
As for my personal take on the AV debate, I would like to see MS buy out Panda Antivirus and include it in the standard OS, and even stick in in Windows Update. Would make my life much easier. But, while I'm dreaming, I would also like to see MS decide to embrace open source, and all those virus writes should start being nice. That would make me happy!
First, I must apologize - I've only quickly scanned maybe half of the comments above 2. So, hopefully this has been touched on...
I think the best thing to do is to get people using apps that run on linux. Promote OpenOffice, FireFox, gimp, et al (including GNU utilities for the real wannabe's). When they are accustomed to the apps, the change of OS isn't much worse than a Windows upgrade.
I hear lots of ripping on linux docs, but, let us be honest, Windows help ain't much to brag about. The average end user has very little interest in the details of the OS, and these people shouldn't have to fret about it. Those who are geeks shouldn't have a hard time learning linux. But if people have to learn the quirks of a new system AND new apps, well, that is just a lot to ask.
OK, fine. I'll just take all of my thousands of digital photos collected over the years, which are now organized in nested directories so that I can easily find photos of my kids
I just counted, and I have 19 pictures. I've never counted, but I suspect 80% of the time the spatial browser is best for me in my current day to day use. On the other hand, there are times when I just hate the spatial browser. Several years ago I used a Mac at work, and the first thing I did was install a shareware app that immitated the NeXT file browser. We had thousands of files, and throughout the course of the day I had to access different stuff in wildly different places, and I couldn't think of a good way to organize the files that would be conducive to the spatial thing.
I always thought it painfully obvious that a desktop environment needs to implement two clearly different apps for file browsing. I think the different views for one app are on the confusing side. e.g. When I'm traversing the file system, I want a divided window that allows navigation. When I want access to a single commonly used folder, I want to just see the contents of that one folder. Granted, there are implementations of this already on any system, but I find them somewhat awkward. Guess I pine for the days of the old Mac -- I got spacial when I clicked an OS link, but when I opened my shareware app I got multi-directory navigation in a single window.
I'm not entirely sure what the big rush is to go to college. I recommend living in a foreign country first, preferably one with a different language and a different culture than your own. Find a university or college town or smaller city in this country and plop yourself down for a year to learn the language.
I strongly agree with this. I went to college because everyone else did. It was expected. If I was smart I would have worked full time after highschool and taken one class at a time until I was ready for full time college. Instead I just partied every night and flunked out. Then did the same thing again at a different school after ignoring the first college on my application. I sounded just like the submitter of this question when I was 18. STUPID.
No dishonor in working whatever job can be found until you have a better idea of what direction you want to go with your life. Learning a new language and visiting a new country can do wonders. (Been there, done that, loved it.) Mexico is a great choice. The people I met were very friendly and helpful despite my lacking Spanish skills. I was denied a legal work permit, but there are ways around that. The best part of going to a new land where you know nobody is that you will have to submit and learn to rely on people you don't know, and, in turn, you will have to gain their trust. The lack of language skills will improve your ability to comminicate.
Quite simply, I don't think everyone is ready for college at 18. Yes, a college degree is a very good thing, but you don't need it immediately. Chances are an 18 year old kid today is going to live to 100. What's the rush to get a good job and settle down? Wait too long, and you'll be out of sync with your age group, which will be difficult. But, killing a couple of years ain't a big deal.
The post says "Linux based PMP-120 media player which through its colour screen can support MP3, ASF, Ogg Vorbis, JPEG, BMP, AVI, MP4, DivX 3.x, 4.x, 5.x, XviD, MPEG4 SP, Advanced SP and MPEG1."
But the web site says "Up to 600 hours of music using Windows Media format at 64kbps." I never realized I could play wm on linux. Uhm, learn something new every day.
So clearly, 'limited user' is not the way to properly limit the users so they cannot install spyware.
I don't know if that is true or not. But I do know that when you set up an admin account for the folks, and user accounts for the kids, the kids will only use the parents account. Typically the parents could use a user account and not complain much, but the kids are the ones who want to visit sites that require lowering security in the browser, install games and such. The parents may try to monitor the kids at first, but they will get tired of the pestering and just give up the password. Too much experience with this.
If they're unemployed, then they're obviously not the ones who are growing the food, driving the trucks, and removing the garbage.
Actually, the stupid and lazy people don't collect unemployment. That is for the smart and lazy people. Level of education has nothing to do with being smart or stupid, but I'm quite sure, the better educated you are, the better you will be at milking the system. And don't get me started on corporate welfare... As this is a somewhat MS related thread, I'll try to bring it back on topic. Just how much tax money ends up at Microsoft? Answer: mucho dinero.
They have blocked OEMs from putting out useful products (e.g. dual-boot computers).
You list this, I assume, as a bad thing. Selling dual-boot boxes is just silly and confusing. Back in the day, a cousin of mine was an OS/2 fanatic. He talked another cousin into buying a computer with Windows and OS/2. When I inquired how the recient liked OS/2, the reply was "I've opened that _program_ a couple times, but I couldn't figure out what it's supposed to do". I highly suspect that far too many geeks would recommend Linux dual-boots, and the results would be the same. Ignorant users would assume they knew Linux because they had it on their computer, although they never really understood what it was, found Windows far more useful because it did Office and games etc, and they would just disregard Linux in the future. I find it far better to let them find Linux on their own because of Windows problems, or go with an all Linux system with plenty of training.
P.S. Just started reading this thread, and I couldn't help but wonder. There are ~1,400 comments, yet I doubt there are 1,400 readers of slashdot who use Linux exclusively at home. I find it kinda funny.
Is it just me, or does Professor Tanenbaum really seem like the man lately?
Maybe because I read at mod 2 and above I haven't seen the comment, but I am convinced that Ken Brown is a creation of IBM in some clever artsy type ad campaign for Linux.
The only sense I can make of this debate comes from Mark Twain's "of course reality is stranger than fiction, fiction has to make sense" type comment.
I just read the "Hackers and Painters" essay. A note that struck me as odd is this, "The influence of fashion is not nearly so great in hacking as it is in painting." I suspect the influence of fashion is nearly equal (regardless of interpretation).
Main difference being, artists who ignore fashion may be remembered hundreds of years later despite not being popular during their lifetimes. However, I suspect that other than a couple of early programmers, all hackers will be quickly forgotten. Nice old paintings sell for big bucks, but old code is just trivia for geeks.
Unlike Windows which began as a game-playing, home-using OS and has been modified into something it was never designed to be.
I think Unix started as a game playing, single user OS.
From Orgins and History of Unix> Synchronization of our Internet bookmarks
> across all our computers.
> The Files and Settings Transfer Wizard lets you
> transfer whatever you want.
No, no, there once was a great little app that synched bookmarks for IE on Windows and Mac computers. It was great. You would have the same bookmarks all all your computers that used IE. Modify them on one box, when you go to the next box, they were automatically updated. Do a clean reinstall of the OS, and whoop, there are your good old bookmarks. On a linux box or somewhere you you don't have the app installed, no problem, go to the web site, and all your bookmarks were stored for you with no effort on your part. Sadly the company went out of biz a couple years ago :(
IT'S SPELLED MORANS, YOU DUMMY
Hey, I resemble that comment!
tmoran_depere
Hey wouldn't it be funny if /. or Linux Today posted the Microsoft ads, but allowed comments on them?
I once considered making a website that was just banner ads with comments on the banners. But a) bannerfarm.com was already taken, and b) I didn't think I could draw enough visitors to get enough comments to make it interesting. But I still like the idea.
I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that everytime a porn site is visited (even accidentally) it opens 20-some-odd popup windows...
That's why you go to pop up free sites. Duh? The Hun is my favorite. But there are several others. Adult Links 4 Adults also rocks. WorldSex has lots of hardcore. If I recall Sublime directory is also quality free stuff. All of these sites offer daily updated links to galleries without pop ups and the sponsors advertised are also devoid of annoying pop ups (in case you click an ad by accident). They aren't "CJ" sites that just send you to more links. Simply free porn to rack up the page views to increase the rates they can charge for banners and paid gallery placement.
Unlike viruses or worms, it's not at all clear where the line is between "good" and "bad."
Personally, I draw the line in the "Add/Remove Software" control panel. If the app has a clear definition and can be removed as easily as a legit piece of software, then it is alright by me. (This also implies that it was voluntarly installed as any other piece of software, i.e. went to download.com or similar place and selected the software based on an honest description to fill a users need.) I have no idea why someone would volunteer to have a computer used as a spam relay or be subjected to endless pop ups, but if that's what people want, so be it. But it should also be easy to remove without the use of extra software.
The mere idea that special software is neeeded to remove the junk, and, yet, no one is being prosecuted makes me very very angry. However, as I haven't had a personal computer infected with anything in a few years, I don't have anything to go.
Jerry died but the bootlegs live on FOREVER. Can listen on the web at GD Radio or download using Furthur
And the other guys are still putting out some cool tunes. So I really don't see the problem. The Dead got music as close to perfect as humanly possible, so there really isn't much room for innovation.
Dang, I should have known someone would have copied the article here. I kid you not, I saved the page and modifed the
so I could read the darn thing without having to scroll back and forth.I agree with you 100% about the majority of Americans being stupid fucks though. And the scary part is that their votes count just as much as mine.
This line of thought annoys me as much as the "everyone needs to vote" promotion. Last time you voted, how many choices were there for any office? Usually two, sometimes only one. Toss a coin 1000 times, and it probably won't be a perfect 50/50. That's really all we got with elections, regardless of how many people vote.
In regards to smart people being more important, I say bull. There are well thought out reasons for both parties, and an equal split amoungst those who follow politics as to which candidate is better. Granted, there are rare execptions, but that hardly requires a return to a monarchy.
I really feel like babbling about this for a good long time, so I'd better shut up right about
now