a WikiWikiClone will definitly be an excellent way to improve Linux documentation, it often brings unvaluabale feedback. Another way it sto have the ability to add comments on the documentations pages à la PHP doc.
Now what would be cool, is the ability to add feed back, comments etc to documents on line as with the PHP doc for instance. This is a great way to make the docs evolve.
The death of Usenet will be a tragedy !
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I hope, no, Usenet is the ultimate place of free expression (with Slashdot:)). I Must admit I have some reluctance to post since I changed my email address, I was a bit tired and angry with the spam I used to receive with my old one.
We need some automatic address anonymisers which prevent the automatic collection of addresses, as they are used in some web site, you don't access to email name but rather you post thrue an URL. This would a great service from Yahoo or Hotmail for instance.
I confirm this. I run a 1400 e-series, works great, IBM has certified one of their Thinkpad for Linux (don't remember which one) and intends to do it for the whole line.
The fact is that CLI are far superior to GUI for techy for many reasons.
1) The Unix philosophy : which says write small pieces of programs that the one thing and do s well, you then combine these programs with pipes or scripting to create more complexe programs. This is the best known way to keep software complexity down. It's because M$ has not understood this, that they are overwelmed by the bload and complexity of their programs. With small programs the "cost entry" for a new comer is much lower. With processors becoming more and more powerfull everyday, you can overcome the lack of GUI by putting GUI over CLI. You Just do some pattern matching over the Text output, you can build decent GUI with this apporoach. This is the way KDE et GNOME do it to build GUI interfaces to CLI tools, like find, grep, rpm etc.
2) A communication problem : It's much easier to communicate with other programmers if you use CLI, for instance when you want to ask for help it's easier to post a request in a newsgroup and says for instance :
- I have downloaded software foo-1.4 - cd bar - tar zxvf foo-1.4 -./Configure - make
you get the point, you can describe you problem much more accurately, and easily that if you want to do it with a GUI, I clicked on File, the a Windows opened, I did page down, and chosen a the file.
Another advantage of the "script" version above (with cd bar, tar etc) is that it's easily searchable with tools like Dejanews for instance, when you have a problem installing foo-1.4 you search for keywords "foo-1.4" and./Configure. Another advantage is that the keywords don't depend on a particular language. The way you describe the GUI sequence depend on the language you use as GUI are localised, en French you won't use "File" but "Fichier", so you search en Dejanews will not bring you any result. In fact to sum it the "script" version act as a kind of small chunk of a program, and contribute to enhance the global language.
Linuxfund is an affinity card program. It's goal is to collect money to distribute to wortwhile Open Source programs. I am not sure they have already distributing funds, but you still can try at http://linuxfund.org/
This not ment to be a troll ! but what's going on, on Slashdot lately ? Is this a lack of actuality or just Slashdot Laziness and lack of inspiration. Franckly is this a story worth posting on Slashdot ? What does it brings concretly to Slashdot readers !? Same for the Matrix Story !? I have submitted what I honestly believe to be much worthy stories (well of course I am biaised) but I can't believe that from the 190 wanting to be ckecked by Slashdot I was told when I submitted my stories, those two last ones are the more interesting. I really refuse to believe that !
As far as I know this is the first SQL92 compliant Open Source DATABASE; as MySql and PostgreSQL are not SQL92 (yet) and probably never for MySQL. This is really huge news in my opinion. Although I didn't try Interbase myslef, according to what I have read about it here and there, and particularily in newsgroups, it seems to be a very nice piece of software.
Not an "official" Open Source advocate per se; but R.E BALLARD does a really great job in my opinion in some Linux related newsgroups. I became interested in Linux by reading his posts. It will be a nice thing to give an award to anonymous person (although he his not really one). ESR, RMS, PERENS and others have already had plenty of distinctions.
You can view some of Ballard posting history in Deja.com
We haven't heard much news lately about the LSB; now that Linux is quickly gaining mainstream, the need of a distro agnostic Linux standard is becoming more and more urgent, before it's too late !. As I understand it, LI is an organisation devoted to the promotion of Linux, and has among it's members many important users of Linux, how can LI help the emergence of a such Standard by blessing it, and encouraging it's members to adopt it ?
Many people have talked about prior art to avoid the current patent invasion. I think that two thins are worth considering.
1) Open Source authors need to keep all their CVS archives, this is the best proof of prior art.
2) This might be far fetched, but Dejanews with it's 5 years of Usenet archives, could be a nice place to look for prior art too, or at least that the idea has been around for some time.
Just keep the CVS archives which track all the modifications and their date of creation, this will in my opinion be sufficient to proof prior art. A place like sourceforge.org will be tremendously useful for that.
As long as the patent system ask to be bused, it will. There is an other reason why a corporation would patent something. This way it can build a patent folio to protect itself, by exchanging it's exclusive right with other coproration which might not be as scrupulous.
I believe the Open Source community needs to create a patent pool to protect itself the same way, this is the reason sites like www.openpatents.org where created.
An other point is not understand that it's _paramount_ for all open source projects to keep _all_ the CVS archives, as this the best way way to proof prior art, many obivious inventions have been patented because the source code history was lost. I think that sites like sourceforge.org can help do that.
You are missing the real problem ! Who said that Amazon has not go great service ? I believe too. The fact is that they are abusing the patent system with a Bogus Patent (Basically they have patented storing user information in cookies) Whell if one cares about the liberty to program, IMHO I believe he sould Boycot Amazon; if it's a minor factor for him, well that's his problem and guess what, I feel sorry for him. If the patent system continue as it going now, soon, you won't be able to write a single line of code without infring a patent or another.
Imagine all the application they now got in a "glance", all the Open Source one Apache, Perl, Gimp, and even the proprietary SAP, Oracle, etc. Finally Linux is faster heading to WORA than Java.
Knuth is much much more than only TEX, he has written the monumental "Art Of Computer programming" which is the bible of computer science, he has introduced Literate programming, and has adavanced Computer Science in so much fields it's really to give him justice for all what has done. But Miguel (and all the Gnome bunch) have also done a lot to advance free software and Gnome is really becoming a Masterpiece, I use happily now for nearly all my needs, and I think this awards is really well desreved.
I have already posted this in an other thread, but it's deeply netsted, Maybe it will go unoticed, so I dare to repost it.
Here is the trick just search for the books you want to buy in Amazon (I admit they they a damn nice service, and readers review) pick up the ISBN and then go buy search for the best deal in www.bestbookbuys.com with the ISBN. You will see that Amazon are far from beeing the best deal.
Just search for the books you want to buy in Amazon (I admit they they a damn nice service, and readers review) pick up the ISBN and then go buy in one of these gazillions online bookstores out there. You can even try www.bestbookbuys.com the get the best deal. You will see that Amzon are far from beeing the best deal.
This fir sure will be a great idea ! and will gladly support it. The only problem is to whome will you donate the money ? some open source projects have many contributors, and hence will need a kind of "umbrella association". This is what the Apache Software foundation and Software for the Public Interest (Debian) might be for, and I will gladly send them some money.
a WikiWikiClone will definitly be an excellent way to improve Linux documentation, it often brings unvaluabale feedback. Another way it sto have the ability to add comments on the documentations pages à la PHP doc.
Now what would be cool, is the ability to add feed back, comments etc to documents on line as with the PHP doc for instance. This is a great way to make the docs evolve.
I hope, no, Usenet is the ultimate place of free expression (with Slashdot :)). I Must admit I have some reluctance to post since I changed my email address, I was a bit tired and angry with the spam I used to receive with my old one.
We need some automatic address anonymisers which prevent the automatic collection of addresses, as they are used in some web site, you don't access to email name but rather you post thrue an URL. This would a great service from Yahoo or Hotmail for instance.
I confirm this. I run a 1400 e-series, works great, IBM has certified one of their Thinkpad for Linux (don't remember which one) and intends to do it for the whole line.
The fact is that CLI are far superior to GUI for techy for many reasons.
./Configure
./Configure. Another advantage is that the keywords don't depend on a particular language. The way you describe the GUI sequence depend on the language you use as GUI are localised, en French you won't use "File" but "Fichier", so you search en Dejanews will not bring you any result. In fact to sum it the "script" version act as a kind of small chunk of a program, and contribute to enhance the global language.
1) The Unix philosophy : which says write small pieces of programs that the one thing and do s well, you then combine these programs with pipes or scripting to create more complexe programs. This is the best known way to keep software complexity down. It's because M$ has not understood this, that they are overwelmed by the bload and complexity of their programs. With small programs the "cost entry" for a new comer is much lower. With processors becoming more and more powerfull everyday, you can overcome the lack of GUI by putting GUI over CLI. You Just do some pattern matching over the Text output, you can build decent GUI with this apporoach. This is the way KDE et GNOME do it to build GUI interfaces to CLI tools, like find, grep, rpm etc.
2) A communication problem : It's much easier to communicate with other programmers if you use CLI, for instance when you want to ask for help it's easier to post a request in a newsgroup and says for instance :
- I have downloaded software foo-1.4
- cd bar
- tar zxvf foo-1.4
-
- make
you get the point, you can describe you problem much more accurately, and easily that if you want to do it with a GUI, I clicked on File, the a Windows opened, I did page down, and chosen a the file.
Another advantage of the "script" version above (with cd bar, tar etc) is that it's easily searchable with tools like Dejanews for instance, when you have a problem installing foo-1.4 you search for keywords "foo-1.4" and
Linuxfund is an affinity card program. It's goal is to collect money to distribute to wortwhile Open Source programs. I am not sure they have already distributing funds, but you still can try at http://linuxfund.org/
This not ment to be a troll ! but what's going on, on Slashdot lately ? Is this a lack of actuality or just Slashdot Laziness and lack of inspiration. Franckly is this a story worth posting on Slashdot ? What does it brings concretly to Slashdot readers !? Same for the Matrix Story !? I have submitted what I honestly believe to be much worthy stories (well of course I am biaised) but I can't believe that from the 190 wanting to be ckecked by Slashdot I was told when I submitted my stories, those two last ones are the more interesting. I really refuse to believe that !
I have an Thinkpad 1400 and it has a Neomagic too, it seems to work very well with the Thinkpad.
As far as I know this is the first SQL92 compliant Open Source DATABASE; as MySql and PostgreSQL are not SQL92 (yet) and probably never for MySQL. This is really huge news in my opinion. Although I didn't try Interbase myslef, according to what I have read about it here and there, and particularily in newsgroups, it seems to be a very nice piece of software.
Well there is a problem with the link provided above, you can veiw Ballard history with this link.
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Regards
Not an "official" Open Source advocate per se; but R.E BALLARD does a really great job in my opinion in some Linux related newsgroups. I became interested in Linux by reading his posts. It will be a nice thing to give an award to anonymous person (although he his not really one). ESR, RMS, PERENS and others have already had plenty of distinctions.
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You can view some of Ballard posting history in Deja.com
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We haven't heard much news lately about the LSB; now that Linux is quickly gaining mainstream, the need of a distro agnostic Linux standard is becoming more and more urgent, before it's too late !. As I understand it, LI is an organisation devoted to the promotion of Linux, and has among it's members many important users of Linux, how can LI help the emergence of a such Standard by blessing it, and encouraging it's members to adopt it ?
Go figure women :)
Just wanted to say that Doxygen is very nice, I have been using it for sometime now. The 1.0 version has just been released yesterday
Many people have talked about prior art to avoid the current patent invasion. I think that two thins are worth considering.
1) Open Source authors need to keep all their CVS archives, this is the best proof of prior art.
2) This might be far fetched, but Dejanews with it's 5 years of Usenet archives, could be a nice place to look for prior art too, or at least that the idea has been around for some time.
Just browse Dejanews, they have 5 years of usenet archives, I believe you will find plenty of prior art. !
I thin the site you were talking about is www.openpatents.org
Just browse Dejanews, they have 5 years of usenet archives, I believe you will find plenty of prior art. !
Just keep the CVS archives which track all the modifications and their date of creation, this will in my opinion be sufficient to proof prior art. A place like sourceforge.org will be tremendously useful for that.
Anyone care to comment ?
As long as the patent system ask to be bused, it will. There is an other reason why a corporation would patent something. This way it can build a patent folio to protect itself, by exchanging it's exclusive right with other coproration which might not be as scrupulous.
I believe the Open Source community needs to create a patent pool to protect itself the same way, this is the reason sites like www.openpatents.org where created.
An other point is not understand that it's _paramount_ for all open source projects to keep _all_ the CVS archives, as this the best way way to proof prior art, many obivious inventions have been patented because the source code history was lost. I think that sites like sourceforge.org can help do that.
You are missing the real problem ! Who said that Amazon has not go great service ? I believe too. The fact is that they are abusing the patent system with a Bogus Patent (Basically they have patented storing user information in cookies) Whell if one cares about the liberty to program, IMHO I believe he sould Boycot Amazon; if it's a minor factor for him, well that's his problem and guess what, I feel sorry for him. If the patent system continue as it going now, soon, you won't be able to write a single line of code without infring a patent or another.
Imagine all the application they now got in a "glance", all the Open Source one Apache, Perl, Gimp, and even the proprietary SAP, Oracle, etc. Finally Linux is faster heading to WORA than Java.
Knuth is much much more than only TEX, he has written the monumental "Art Of Computer programming" which is the bible of computer science, he has introduced Literate programming, and has adavanced Computer Science in so much fields it's really to give him justice for all what has done. But Miguel (and all the Gnome bunch) have also done a lot to advance free software and Gnome is really becoming a Masterpiece, I use happily now for nearly all my needs, and I think this awards is really well desreved.
I have already posted this in an other thread, but it's deeply netsted, Maybe it will go unoticed, so I dare to repost it.
Here is the trick just search for the books you want to buy in Amazon (I admit they they a damn nice service, and readers review) pick up the ISBN and then go buy search for the best deal in www.bestbookbuys.com with the ISBN. You will see that Amazon are far from beeing the best deal.
Just search for the books you want to buy in Amazon (I admit they they a damn nice service, and readers review) pick up the ISBN and then go buy in one of these gazillions online bookstores out there. You can even try www.bestbookbuys.com the get the best deal. You will see that Amzon are far from beeing the best deal.
Khalid
This fir sure will be a great idea ! and will gladly support it. The only problem is to whome will you donate the money ? some open source projects have many contributors, and hence will need a kind of "umbrella association". This is what the Apache Software foundation and Software for the Public Interest (Debian) might be for, and I will gladly send them some money.
Khalid