any bets on how long before linux gets ported? ill say.. 2 weeks.
in all seriousness, imagine linux on that thing. your own desktop pc to take with you whereveer you go. and if you bought one of those pocket tv's, it could serve as a pda too, maybe..
ok that would need some hacking, but you get my point
Yeah, I read this story and I thought "hell yes" because it definitely beats the shit out of a Verisign-controlled internet (don't believe me? Verisign CEO says the administration of the internet should be handed over to corporations.. like Verisign).
Actually a friend and I were having a discussion about this -- the core changes to OSX in.3 are HUGE -- kernel synced with BSD5 (which, for the Linux users, is a much bigger deal in *BSD OSs than in Linux), upgrade to gcc 3.3 (with massive compiler optimization enhancements for PPC), lots of changes in the other little things (OSX finally got shadow passwords, a much improved compiler toolchain) and then the slew of UI improvements besides. This should really be a full new release, not a point release, but the branding of OSX is just too cool, and too valuable to throw away. It almost seems like OSX will be the permanent new name, and this should reallt be called OSX 3.
You should read the article, if it actually lives up to everything he's talking about, that shell will in fact be pretty damn cool. Returning objects instead of text is a very neat idea, and I'm rather dreading facing the resident Microsoft Weenie on my hall if he catches wind of this..
When I click on a Toyota ads I don't like to see the Ford website.
Nice straw man. If you'd bothered to even finish reading the/. summary, you would know that this is not the case. What happens is that when you search for a term that may or may not be trademarked but is in fairly common use, Google presents, off to the side, text ads for companies that have asked to match one or more words in your term. When you search for a trademarked term, some of the words may match the words for another company's ad, and France wishes to allow this, which is entirely bullshit.
So perhaps next time you'll actually have an argument instead of being a blundering fool, hmm?
For all the sarcastic replies to the parent, I think he has a point. After all the shit France has pulled with Google, its time for Google to boycott France. Let any requests from *.fr be redirected to a page explaining every single ridiculously ignorant French ruling against Google, and let the French protest (they're good at that, anyway). Maybe then we'll start to see some respect for civil liberties in a country with a notoriously cavalier attitude towards them.
Honestly, this is the sort of shit that makes me think the Americans had a point with their "Freedom Fries" nonsense.
So you have a reasonably good, insightful comment, but for one utterly brain-dead comment:
Hell, let's go back to Slackware!
I can only assume, given the context, that you meant that sarcastically, as though Slackware were something that hardly deserved to be mentioned as an option. I'll have you know that Slakcware is one of three distros I would ever consider using (the other two being Debian and Gentoo) for much the same reason that you hate RedHat. Slackware has a package system that works just fine, thank you very much, and if you don't like it you can use some other distro's fairly easily too (yes, even your beloved portage). But Slackware and Debian are the only two major distributions that actually try to be Operating Systems and not Windows. Gentoo's sole raison d'etre is to provide an entire distribution built from source, which quite frankly is only something worth doing on a hobbyist level; for any sort of production box, the focus needs to be on simplicity, security and stability, precisely what Slack focusses on. So before you get on your high horse about Gentoo, consider that.
I would like to see much more articles on using *BSD for the regular consumers
Why, god. Why is it that an OS must be usable "on the desktop", "by mom", or by "the regular consumers" in order for it to be considered "good"? First we had Linux, and then they mom-ified Linux. Now you want them to mom-ify *BSD too? Fuck that shit!
There are server OSs. There are desktop OSs. Any attempt at combination is bound to fail miserably at one or the other and quite likely both.
. ..their work may be locked down and stolen by a corporation [at] any time.
Ah! Such enlightening insight into the world of open source licensing! ..yeah, right.
My dear sir, you are utterly incorrect. Were some corporation to "lock down" their source code (and I can only assume that by "lock down" you mean to re-release under a proprietary license) they would only be assuring that their version of the software would be utterly disregarded by the entire computer community, because (pay attention here) the free version would not somehow magically cease to exist! So on the one hand you would have the free, latest version. On the other hand, you would have the not-free, catching-up version. Gee, tough choice.
Now what the BSD license does allow is for some company to take some or all of the source and reuse it elsewhere, under a proprietary license if they so wish, without giving anything back to the Free software community. Whether or not this is necessarily a bad thing is a philosophical matter. However, your assertion that a company could "lock down" the OpenBSD code is completely and utterly incorrect.
Debian indeed! Or, if you're a bit more adventurous, Slackware, my own personal distribution of choice. Not for the faint of heart, if you want a polished product go for debian.
Macs aren't dramatically more expensive to buy and on a Total Cost of Ownership basis they are probably cheaper.
They are a HELL of a lot more expensive to buy (something on the order of 30% of an x86 based solution) and since, as you pointed out, upgrading them often == buy a new one, that brings the TCO up too.If it weren't for cost, I'm sure a lot more companies would be using Apple -- hell, I know I, personally, may well be on a Mac of some sort if it didnt cost $1200 more than the PC I've got now for an equivalent Mac.
PDE technology is poised to make supersonic passenger flights . . . affordable
Two words: Sonic boom.
It should be pointed out that unaffordability is the smallest factor in facilitating commercial supersonic flight. Many (most?) countries have actually banned the Concorde from flying over their airspace due to the sonic booms that any such flight cause. In fact PDE technology is unlikely to be used in commercial aviation at all, because even at subsonic speeds its ridiculously loud. Looks like this is a technology purely for military planes.
I've got a really good filemanager. It does everything I want it to and more, and it only takes up a few KB of memory. It's not entirely intuitive, but once you understand it its a dream to use. It's called ls, along with its friends cp, rm, mv, chmod, chown and a few others.
Honestly, folks, isn't this why we moved to Linux in the first place? To get away from bloat in the name of userfriendliness? What happened to K.I.S.S.? What happened to having one program do one thing? What happened to the Unix Philosophy? Nowadays we have all these Explorer wannabe programs that purport to do everything you want and more all in one program -- and I've tried them all -- and I've never found them to be anything but clumsy, compared to the elegant tools of the old school.
A GUI browser, I can understand completely. Ditto word processor, spreadsheets, etc. But for a filemanager? If you're going to insist on a GUI for that, please don't complain about bloat.
Far be it from me to be redundant, but I think you (like some others) have somewhat missed the boat -- SCO support will not -- cannot, by the very nature of Free Software -- be removed from previous versions. It will be removed from future versions of the codebase so that it need not be maintained. My personal belief is that this is the correct direction. Even though it's not possible, if the FSF were to try and, say, remove support from SCO from every previous version and every fork, I would be against that - but this makes sense. SCO users can still use older versions of GCC, but we (the Free Software Community) aren't going to go to the trouble of keeping newer versions of GCC from breaking on SCO *Ware. The only point that gives me pause is that code is apparently still being actively contributed to the GCC codebase from @sco.com email addresses; however, this will doubtless cease as soon as their legal department finds out, so the point is moot in any case.
That's patently untrue; the GPL poses no threat to Microsoft's IP (or indeed any threat at all) were Microsoft to ship Office for Linux. Note various other proprietary software for linux (Oracle, Quake3, to name a few) if you don't believe me. The real reason is because they won't ship Office for Linux is because they recognize that far fewer people would run Windows at all if they could still read all their Word documents perfectly (OpenOffice still has a few issues).
Microsoft appears to be one of the few companies where the management is smarter (in a Machiavellian way, like they're supposed to be) than the coders.
In that article, 4 filesystems are used: ext2, ext3, ResiserFS, and JFS. However, Reiser4, which is the clear leader in these benchmarks, was not tested.
Plus, now that Lieberman is seriously looking at the Presidency, he's a little worried about his image among most Democrats as a bit of a fascist..
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sigh. I hate to point it out, but its been proven many times over that Windows' TCP/IP stack is a straight rip of BSD's. Also, gdb and Visual studio are related in exactly the same way that Linux and Windows are related: the former (in either case) is a hell of a lot more powerful, but the latter is much more idiot-proof. If gdb managed to hang your system --which I still severely doubt, seeing as I do some heavy development in Linux and use it on a daily basis and the only thing that's ever hung the system is X-- but if you did, I'll put money on the table that it was your fuck up. Sorry dude. Use Windows, it sounds like more your thing.
The U.s>, apparently, "knew" about a remotely piloted drone aircraft that could be used to spread chemical weapons. Colin Powell made a big fuss about it in a speech, and the U.s. ambassador to the UN bitched that Hans Blix didn't do the same in a speech of his own. Turns out, the thing was made of plywood and duct-tape with some weed-whacker engines attached to a propellor. Maximum range: 5 miles. Chemical weapons? Yeah, right.
So every speech, document, press release etc made by the White House re Saddam until a certain point in time mention nukes. The "special information" Bush had was a document that said Saddam tried to buy nuke material from Niger. So the US finally releases this document since everyone's a little antsy about nukes, and gee-whiz, its forged. What a shame, oh shit, remove all mention of nukes from future speeches, press releases, etc.
Take-home point: Bush's special information == bullshit.
Now I know you're going to attack me for having links to salon articles. Yes, salon is a liberal magazine. But read the articles, bucko -- they're AP, not salon.
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dude - if you value a medium, or a source of entertainment ("content provider", if you will), you must be prepared to pay for it one way or another the accepted medium for this is via advertising first there were banner ads, and people bitched then there were bigger banner ads, and people bitched more now there're real advertisments that would interrupt your reading exactly like the ads in a magazine maybe/. will have a better chance of survival maybe the news source that you apparently value so much as to be unable to tolerate a single distraction will continue to live you pay for a magazine; you get massive ads. you MIGHT pay for/., you get some ads. 3 a day. quitcherbitchin.
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its this easy: mplayer -ao pcm blahblah.wma .wav that you can then encode as mp3.
this creates a file called audiodump.wav, which is just a standard
in all seriousness, imagine linux on that thing. your own desktop pc to take with you whereveer you go. and if you bought one of those pocket tv's, it could serve as a pda too, maybe
ok that would need some hacking, but you get my point
Yeah, I read this story and I thought "hell yes" because it definitely beats the shit out of a Verisign-controlled internet (don't believe me? Verisign CEO says the administration of the internet should be handed over to corporations .. like Verisign).
Actually a friend and I were having a discussion about this -- the core changes to OSX in .3 are HUGE -- kernel synced with BSD5 (which, for the Linux users, is a much bigger deal in *BSD OSs than in Linux), upgrade to gcc 3.3 (with massive compiler optimization enhancements for PPC), lots of changes in the other little things (OSX finally got shadow passwords, a much improved compiler toolchain) and then the slew of UI improvements besides. This should really be a full new release, not a point release, but the branding of OSX is just too cool, and too valuable to throw away. It almost seems like OSX will be the permanent new name, and this should reallt be called OSX 3.
You should read the article, if it actually lives up to everything he's talking about, that shell will in fact be pretty damn cool. Returning objects instead of text is a very neat idea, and I'm rather dreading facing the resident Microsoft Weenie on my hall if he catches wind of this..
Ginsburg - Clinton
Souter - Bush I
Thomas - Bush I
Breyer - Clinton
Scalia - Reagan
Stevens - Ford
Rehnquist - Nixon
O'Connor - Reagan
Kennedy - Ford
7 our of 9 nominated by Republicans. You, sir, are a fool.
try here
Nice straw man. If you'd bothered to even finish reading the
So perhaps next time you'll actually have an argument instead of being a blundering fool, hmm?
Honestly, this is the sort of shit that makes me think the Americans had a point with their "Freedom Fries" nonsense.
I can only assume, given the context, that you meant that sarcastically, as though Slackware were something that hardly deserved to be mentioned as an option. I'll have you know that Slakcware is one of three distros I would ever consider using (the other two being Debian and Gentoo) for much the same reason that you hate RedHat. Slackware has a package system that works just fine, thank you very much, and if you don't like it you can use some other distro's fairly easily too (yes, even your beloved portage). But Slackware and Debian are the only two major distributions that actually try to be Operating Systems and not Windows. Gentoo's sole raison d'etre is to provide an entire distribution built from source, which quite frankly is only something worth doing on a hobbyist level; for any sort of production box, the focus needs to be on simplicity, security and stability, precisely what Slack focusses on. So before you get on your high horse about Gentoo, consider that.
Why, god. Why is it that an OS must be usable "on the desktop", "by mom", or by "the regular consumers" in order for it to be considered "good"? First we had Linux, and then they mom-ified Linux. Now you want them to mom-ify *BSD too? Fuck that shit!
There are server OSs. There are desktop OSs. Any attempt at combination is bound to fail miserably at one or the other and quite likely both.
Ah! Such enlightening insight into the world of open source licensing!
My dear sir, you are utterly incorrect. Were some corporation to "lock down" their source code (and I can only assume that by "lock down" you mean to re-release under a proprietary license) they would only be assuring that their version of the software would be utterly disregarded by the entire computer community, because (pay attention here) the free version would not somehow magically cease to exist! So on the one hand you would have the free, latest version. On the other hand, you would have the not-free, catching-up version. Gee, tough choice.
Now what the BSD license does allow is for some company to take some or all of the source and reuse it elsewhere, under a proprietary license if they so wish, without giving anything back to the Free software community. Whether or not this is necessarily a bad thing is a philosophical matter. However, your assertion that a company could "lock down" the OpenBSD code is completely and utterly incorrect.
Silly lawyers, code is for coders!
Debian indeed! Or, if you're a bit more adventurous, Slackware, my own personal distribution of choice. Not for the faint of heart, if you want a polished product go for debian.
They are a HELL of a lot more expensive to buy (something on the order of 30% of an x86 based solution) and since, as you pointed out, upgrading them often == buy a new one, that brings the TCO up too.If it weren't for cost, I'm sure a lot more companies would be using Apple -- hell, I know I, personally, may well be on a Mac of some sort if it didnt cost $1200 more than the PC I've got now for an equivalent Mac.
Two words: Sonic boom.
It should be pointed out that unaffordability is the smallest factor in facilitating commercial supersonic flight. Many (most?) countries have actually banned the Concorde from flying over their airspace due to the sonic booms that any such flight cause. In fact PDE technology is unlikely to be used in commercial aviation at all, because even at subsonic speeds its ridiculously loud. Looks like this is a technology purely for military planes.
Honestly, folks, isn't this why we moved to Linux in the first place? To get away from bloat in the name of userfriendliness? What happened to K.I.S.S.? What happened to having one program do one thing? What happened to the Unix Philosophy? Nowadays we have all these Explorer wannabe programs that purport to do everything you want and more all in one program -- and I've tried them all -- and I've never found them to be anything but clumsy, compared to the elegant tools of the old school.
A GUI browser, I can understand completely. Ditto word processor, spreadsheets, etc. But for a filemanager? If you're going to insist on a GUI for that, please don't complain about bloat.
Far be it from me to be redundant, but I think you (like some others) have somewhat missed the boat -- SCO support will not -- cannot, by the very nature of Free Software -- be removed from previous versions. It will be removed from future versions of the codebase so that it need not be maintained. My personal belief is that this is the correct direction. Even though it's not possible, if the FSF were to try and, say, remove support from SCO from every previous version and every fork, I would be against that - but this makes sense. SCO users can still use older versions of GCC, but we (the Free Software Community) aren't going to go to the trouble of keeping newer versions of GCC from breaking on SCO *Ware. The only point that gives me pause is that code is apparently still being actively contributed to the GCC codebase from @sco.com email addresses; however, this will doubtless cease as soon as their legal department finds out, so the point is moot in any case.
Microsoft appears to be one of the few companies where the management is smarter (in a Machiavellian way, like they're supposed to be) than the coders.
In that article, 4 filesystems are used: ext2, ext3, ResiserFS, and JFS. However, Reiser4, which is the clear leader in these benchmarks, was not tested.
Plus, now that Lieberman is seriously looking at the Presidency, he's a little worried about his image among most Democrats as a bit of a fascist..
sigh. I hate to point it out, but its been proven many times over that Windows' TCP/IP stack is a straight rip of BSD's. Also, gdb and Visual studio are related in exactly the same way that Linux and Windows are related: the former (in either case) is a hell of a lot more powerful, but the latter is much more idiot-proof. If gdb managed to hang your system --which I still severely doubt, seeing as I do some heavy development in Linux and use it on a daily basis and the only thing that's ever hung the system is X-- but if you did, I'll put money on the table that it was your fuck up. Sorry dude. Use Windows, it sounds like more your thing.
More info than 99.9999% of others out there. Yes. Of course. Well let's review the special information he has that he's seen fit to reveal, shall we?
1) The weed whacker.
The U.s>, apparently, "knew" about a remotely piloted drone aircraft that could be used to spread chemical weapons. Colin Powell made a big fuss about it in a speech, and the U.s. ambassador to the UN bitched that Hans Blix didn't do the same in a speech of his own. Turns out, the thing was made of plywood and duct-tape with some weed-whacker engines attached to a propellor. Maximum range: 5 miles. Chemical weapons? Yeah, right.
2) He has nukes! He doesn't have nukes.
So every speech, document, press release etc made by the White House re Saddam until a certain point in time mention nukes. The "special information" Bush had was a document that said Saddam tried to buy nuke material from Niger. So the US finally releases this document since everyone's a little antsy about nukes, and gee-whiz, its forged. What a shame, oh shit, remove all mention of nukes from future speeches, press releases, etc.
Take-home point: Bush's special information == bullshit.
Now I know you're going to attack me for having links to salon articles. Yes, salon is a liberal magazine. But read the articles, bucko -- they're AP, not salon.
alt+f4 baby, alt+f4.
no mouse movement required.
dude - if you value a medium, or a source of entertainment ("content provider", if you will), you must be prepared to pay for it one way or another /. will have a better chance of survival /., you get some ads. 3 a day.
the accepted medium for this is via advertising
first there were banner ads, and people bitched
then there were bigger banner ads, and people bitched more
now there're real advertisments that would interrupt your reading exactly like the ads in a magazine
maybe
maybe the news source that you apparently value so much as to be unable to tolerate a single distraction will continue to live
you pay for a magazine; you get massive ads. you MIGHT pay for
quitcherbitchin.