However.. what if the traffic is jammed in that particular network?
that would really be dependent on the router too.. and who is to say that the source of these 'keys' are reliable.. i don't mean can be trusted.. the question is if they are competant.. I don't think I would consider myself competant:)
The problem with DoS attacks is that the more cleverly arranged ones are from many many hosts.. this procedure would be almost useless in that case.
Good idea though.. would be a bitch to impliment..
Doing small things left and right are good though. They stop the average DoS attack. In this case, it really is dependant on the good nature of people.
If you look at the TCP/IP, and most importantly IP protocol, there is nothing you can do.
Some would say have a 'supersmart' router that would kill all packets that are from the same host.. but what's the point.. what if the router fills up its buffer?///...
It's like McDonalds at lunch... everyone gets there at the same time.. they all want something, they're going to pay (in a DoS attack, this is what it *looks*like, but its really one person doing this) so the lines get long.. Poor me can't get lunch as fast a possible.. there's nothing we can do to solve the problem unfortunately.
The only real solution is to beef up security on as many systems as possible. Once this is done, a hacker can't get the resources in order to launch a big DoS attack.
This is a really hard task, of course... but maybe security should be more of a main focus on the home desktop systems, especially since broadband is getting so easy to obtain.
Another reason why M$ needs to get their thumbs out of their a$$e$ and release more secure OS's... Open Source is already trying to actively take care of the problem:)
I love the internet and the way it is. So free and non corporate controlled..
That's the way it was meant to be.
But we have a big problem arising. As more and more people need the access, we're running into less aware users who are easily controlled by large corporate vendors.
When I read this, all I can see is the government trying to force a redesign in the TCP/IP protocol.
Is this what it will come to? In order to "protect" copyrights, will we have to change how the internet works compleatly in order for it to be sufficient.
We don't know how our brain works, how ants brains work.. and most importantly how LIFE works.
this sort of development poses serious philisophical questions, that I don't think our society *can* answer.
What is life? We really don't know. Some say its some form of inteligence... so are these chips intelligence? yes.. but are they life?
We really don't know, and quite frankly, we'll never know.
Every explanation leads into a cycle of questions.
This technology is great, however we don't know how it will be implimented, nor do we know IF it will be implimented. If it ever got advanced enough, we would see INTENSE legislation being thrown back and forth. Chances are, the democratic world will destroy the technology if it is dangerous.
The problem could be others. The others. The other people from some unkown country, pissed off at the world, with their hands on this technology, ready to start another war.
All we ever hear about is how computer "hackers" who copy these CD's and distribute them are destroying the industry. Industry, heh.
Out of all the arguments I've heard on their side, I have *NOT ONCE* heard anything about the price of music these days.
Have you ever heard any of these big time vendors mention anything about the fact that if you goto virgin, or any other store, you're going to pay 18 bucks for one of these CD's? That's outrageous.
I can't stand walking into virgin, spending 60 bucks, and walk out with three pieces of plastic!
Yes, I believe in supporting the artist ten fold. But the fact is that the artist gets something like 75 cents from each CD that is bought.. I'm outraged. (I could be wrong about the exact price, but I'm guestimating.)
The fact is, the distributers/corporate labels are GREEDY. If the CD's were at a good price, like say, $6-8, then the amount of "copyright violations" would be reduced to very small amounts.
The problem is not with the audience, but with the greedy corporate owners. They just want to make more money, and the CDROM/Audio CD reader, etc. manufacturers must listen to the people who the industry depends on.
-Sase
P.S. A Thought to chew on. I still own over 200 legit CD's, that I bought, and I still buy them today. If I really like a CD, I've always bought it. It's nice to have a physical copy with all the booklets, etc. that come with it. BUT, I still download/burn music that I like/want to sample.
P.P.S. HEY! What about all those people who burn CD's that can only be found online? IE Tapers. A not-so-small group of people who *legally* make tapes of concerts (IE Dave Matthews Band, Phish, etc.) and distribute them online. These people, once they've obtained these copies, burn them to CD's so they can listen to them at home. A process that is 100% legal and *SUPPORTED* by the artist. What about them? What are they going to do? They'll have these recordings... with nothing to play them on. HOsh posh.
For your information, here at UM, It's not discouraged. However, I've noticed a few things while here.
This year @ UM, they dropped each port down to 10mbps in the dorm rooms. They also put a cap on the lines at 5mbps
Interestingly enough, this year they have put everything behind a NAT/Proxy. This has prooved to be somewhat of a problem.
Supposedly the reason behind this move was as follows:
1. Someone set up a server and leased multiple IP's in their dorm room, and hosted porn sites. I have yet to figure out how this person got an authority on DNS, but that information we don't know.
2. Many people were setting up FTP's to serve multiple clients.
It wasn't the peertopeer programs that did it, it was those who actually took advantage of our non locked down network. It was nice then, those who knew the possibilities, could use it as they felt necessary, while not taking advantage of it. But, they decided to take advantage of the system and flood the line with unnecessary bandwidth. Thus ruining it for all of us.
Thus, everything was put behind a proxy/NAT. Now, the connection in the dorms *suck* because they aren't doing it properly. I'm loosing like 30-50% of all packets sent out, within the campus network. Their servers pipe'ing all the traffic must be bogged down here at the U.
I did notice however (when performance wasn't varying from 0kbps to 3mbps, mostly towards the lower end..) that in the beginning of the year ports that Napster, and other programs use were blocked, and that wasn't too nice. I wound up using my own Proxy on one of my servers, off site.
The point is, that I think they won't be banning these things all together, but many providers will be implimenting strategies to imply discouragement of these services. IE. The implimentation of QoS and limiting everyone. Or, you will see more active flaging of people who use lots of bandwidth quite frequently.
I think in the future we're going to see a move in volatile memory.
Instead of things being written directly to Harddrives, etc. I think we're going into the error of solid state memory.
Yes, this will lead to big problems if there are power outages etc. but I think this will all be "built in".
The only way this quick retrival is possible is through solid-state solutions...
The current videos can be stored on the solid state memory as they are transferred to large DB on very fast RAID'ed systems. The index, however, will remain in the solid state memory. This will allow for quick access, etc.
but.... we all know how expensive that is, or will be.
So I think until solid-state solutions are affordable, you're not going to have a quick indexing solution.
There comes a point in time where our physical hardware (HD's etc.) can't keep up with the processing bandwidth (sufficiently, that is) and we're going to need solid state solutions to keep up with those speeds.
I could see how they would coexist.. but I think you all might find this interesting.
A few months ago I attended something in NYC called "PC-XPO" I'm sure a bunch of you have heard of it. It's a pretty large event. Many, many big companies come and show off their stuff. IE Compaq, Intel, AMD, etc.
Every station at this place was connected in some shape or form.
I would have to say that there were apprx. 1000-2000 computer systems there at one time. There were a lot of laptops operating wirelessly (802.11b). Also a significant amount of desktops were also working wirelessly.
Interestingly enough, several vendors were showing off their "new" bluetooth technology (like Toshiba, printer companies, etc.)
Point is, I must have brain cancer after spending so many hours there (no, not really). Who knows how many were transmitting across that frequency band. *BUT* they were all working in coexistance, and at very high speeds. There were some pretty smart people who designed the show, so they must have thought of the problems with the two technologies.
I am definitly one to test the reliability of Intel w/o a HSF.
I ran once (just to test) my processor w/o a HSF and was able to boot up win2k.. I have yet to figure that one out.
My system won't even get to post (I have an Athlon 1.4 and Abit a7m266)
So what does this mean. Does this mean that AMD has better protection that it just doesn't work? Therefor you get the idea that its not working b/c of heat? Whereas when you use intel, it keeps working, setting it self up for failure..
Hrm. I've fucked up my HSF installations.. but I've never smoked an AMD or Intel.
The idea of built in HSF is OK, except for the fact that now you can't replace it with your own monster (Like a Peltier Cooler, or a monster Dragon Orb [loud ass mofo])
Who are they going to tap? They can't possibly tap everything.. they don't do that now.
And where does their jurisdiction lie. Doesn't the FBI only have jurisdiction over State to State matters? If so:
If you have a packet that is sent to some other town in the same state, but has to hit a router in another state before it gets there, who has jurisdiction over it?
...and wouldn't the "tapping" be over lines that are *already* suspected? To tap everyone would be absolutly insane.
I think if they are wondering about Mr. Mafia in NY that is connected to Lightning.net they'll only concentrate on his/her IP's and not all of Lightning.net's traffic... Don't you think?
Create an array of fibre cables running from terminal to server.
Throw an IPSec Box on each end of each fiber.
Use a random sequence (transmitted in the first packet of each sequence) for data to be transfered on each cable.
IE Packet 1 goes through cable 2 packet 3 goes through cable 1, and change that up every 50 packets or so.
Then cover the CAbles with OTDR and have that monitered on the server. Upon a tamper detection, have the connection shut off. Send notice of some kind through some other datapipe (A serial port with a repeater and Zener (I think that's the right spelling) Diodes to prevent a reverse in current, and have the connection sent to another PC (could be in the room actually) that can Dial out to call your cell or something.
That should suffice. However, this method is quite useless without physical security:) So physical security is a must.
If a hacker trys to get into one line (which might not be the right line at the time) he will immediatly set off the OTDR and parralize the system.
In the meantime (heh, if possible) he still has to break through IPsec *and* get through your own random cable swapping/packet swapping sequence.
I think that's impossible to break through. (almost?:)
*Nod* all of these servers should be placed far behind a strict ruleset firewall.
But what about Redundancy? That's one thing I don't like about this "datacenter" why should there be only one? Or.. why should an application have to call for just "one" server? Wouldn't it be more wise to develop the application across a dual array of servers? Each one of these servers could be easily patched in a matter of minutes, at the same time. (Say windows2k advanced servers.
I'm personally not a fan of MS server products.. Although I have had to use them for quite a few applications.. but there has to be a way to get by the "necesity" for DataCenter Server.
I think that this will be causing a great conflict amongst those around the world. How can they perfectly limit these taxes that they get?
And who is to say where *you are from* Should I be paying state taxes if I'm from New York but bring my laptop over to New Jersey for a day and buy something while I am there? I'm dialing into (heh) a connection in new york, bouncing through the routers in NYC and then out to some company in another state but purchasing from a company in NY.
HRM>
This plays great controversy, even for myself. I own an ISP along with two others. One is from MN, another from KY and I'm from NY. Our servers are located in WA and MN,.. so who pays taxes to whom? Does that mean we have to start paying taxes to major internet backbones? Will they want a piece of the pie, when they already have a nice chunk?
I agree that if you use a product professionaly you should pay for it.
In retrospect, the money really isn't all that much.. actually its not much in comparison.
However, I do agree that to pay those prices as a student.. even with the discounts are horrible. Unfortunatly that's how the world works... with anything. A student who studies Graphic Design *has access* to photoshop just like a sound engineer who has access to a mixing console... it's the same thing.
That's why I support this philosophy, however illegal. If I am trying out a product, I will get it as Warez and use it. But if I ever make money for it, I will buy it. Those poor guys who sat there for hours and wrote it deserve some $ back:)
I think that the what you have to say has quite the validity. However, I believe that there will never be a "crush" like that in any nature.
Actually, I think the market will stay the same for quite a long time (until something dramatic happens. IE the world ends)
The very nature as to why Windows has been so successful is purely based on its Userfriendly'ability. (Hah! Might some of us administrators laugh.) For my uses, Windows isn't too friendly all to friendly.
Microsoft has been lucky. Many of the problems that it has with its operating system have been ignored simply because they can. They have no *real* competitors in the industry so they feel its ok.
I think *nix's known entry into the market is going to sincerely change it.
We all know that the Windows 9x Kernels were *crap* but maybe we'll see some significant gain the quality in the future (A complete seperation from what we have now?)
The problem is however, that Linux is still not-so-user friendly. It requires some basic understanding of basis of which it operates. I believe that the market will remain as any other market does. We have the consumer grade products (Microsoft) and the professional grade products (*nix). Two seperate entities but used for (well, sort of) the same thing, but at different levels.
For example, everyone likes to record (sound) some things every once and a while. So we pick up a camcorder and record it. But do we break out some Digital Camera, a mixer and multiple microphones of different applications and locations to do so? I sure as hell don't:)
I think that a diversity like this will exist forever in the market. Those who have necesity for the applications will use whatever is most appropriate (or by preference). If they feel like hosting something like Yahoo! I doubt they're going to whip out a windows 98 box with Apache installed!
So what to do? Know what you need, and use what you need. For large companies, maybe a consultant might suggest a Linux backbone with windows 2000 terminals? While the major services of the organization will be provided by the Linux machine(s) the login services will be pooled together by Windows Servers. Who knows, but that's just a thought.
With all that said, I again repeat that I don't think Windows will ever be crushed, its just impossible. And I really don't think that MacOs will ever gain that much strength in the market. I wonder what most users are starting on these days? MacOS, or Windows? And what will the migrate to when they find either to be unacceptable? But there will always be a diversity in the world on who needs it, why they need it, and how much they know
Everyone talks of the common person who looks for the better cheaper deal, but usually they're jaded by advertisements and corporate marketing. Granted, this is a little off topic but, I happen to be a partner of an ISP that provides Web Hosting, DSL, etc. (We're incorporated btw, but we're not a big corporation.) Like any struggling Web Host, we host porn sites. Our problem? It's hard to compete with those big corporations that offer prices per gig that are way below ours. Worst off, my favourite situation is when a customer tells us (in comparison) that he can get "unlimited transfer" for X amount of dollars. Unlimited transfer? We find that in the market for 19.95/mo customers too. That's impossible, but the common customer can't grasp that. I usually give the example that, "What if I were Yahoo! and I hosted with them, for unlimited transfer.. do you really think they'll get hosting for 19.95/mo?" Of course, that's almost comparing apples to oranges.. but it helps to get the message across. The big corporations are filling the market with pretty images/slogans that attract the customers, regardless of their quality. Some times, their speed/quality is significantly less than us Mom and Pop ISP's, but they get more customers. So what?.. Here comes my point! There are plenty of people out there who understand this, and want the *better* service, with friendly, real support. They understand the difference. And what about word of mouth? That still goes a long way in this world. My company survives in this manor, nd that's what counts. So, in conclusion, this is not the death of the Mom&Pop ISPs, but merely a beginning of a better market.
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Interestingly enough, this has been done before.
:(
:)
I submitted a news post entitled:
2002-03-22 23:38:03 Finally, a way to combat those Spammers! Victims (articles,news) (rejected)
To slashdot.. but they rejected it
Basically, this guy was a lawyer, and everytime he requested to be taken off a list.. He charged them 25$ or something of that nature.
He sent an email saying that if they did not remove him, he would charge them for each email received... They didn't comply.
It eventually turned out to be that the man won in court, and the company settled for all the charges (much over 250)
See if you can search that out in the DB (if its there)
This is good stuff :)
:)
I figured, personally that this should be an automatic right.. only infringed upon in a criminal court.
But who knows.. this is similar to one of the earlier articles today about the internet going way too commercial.
There should be a law passed regarding the disclosure of information.. a national law, that is.
AFterall, it is interstate commerce (international, too)
Hopefully more laws like this will pass. and the bad bad corporate egos will have to gain their business legitematly (spelling
*nod*
:)
:)
However.. what if the traffic is jammed in that particular network?
that would really be dependent on the router too.. and who is to say that the source of these 'keys' are reliable.. i don't mean can be trusted.. the question is if they are competant.. I don't think I would consider myself competant
The problem with DoS attacks is that the more cleverly arranged ones are from many many hosts.. this procedure would be almost useless in that case.
Good idea though.. would be a bitch to impliment..
Doing small things left and right are good though. They stop the average DoS attack. In this case, it really is dependant on the good nature of people.
As always, everything comes down to this
Will there ever be an end to Dos Attacks?
:)
I don't think there can be.
If you look at the TCP/IP, and most importantly IP protocol, there is nothing you can do.
Some would say have a 'supersmart' router that would kill all packets that are from the same host.. but what's the point.. what if the router fills up its buffer?///...
It's like McDonalds at lunch... everyone gets there at the same time.. they all want something, they're going to pay (in a DoS attack, this is what it *looks*like, but its really one person doing this) so the lines get long.. Poor me can't get lunch as fast a possible..
there's nothing we can do to solve the problem unfortunately.
The only real solution is to beef up security on as many systems as possible. Once this is done, a hacker can't get the resources in order to launch a big DoS attack.
This is a really hard task, of course... but maybe security should be more of a main focus on the home desktop systems, especially since broadband is getting so easy to obtain.
Another reason why M$ needs to get their thumbs out of their a$$e$ and release more secure OS's... Open Source is already trying to actively take care of the problem
Whee
-Sase
I guess I'm not that "involved" but I had no clue whatsoever about this subscription status, heh.
:)
After reading this, I went and immediately to throw in my tip
Maybe this 'subscription' should be more publicised? I think that would increase the amount of 'signups' 10-fold
hrm..
This may have been true a year ago.. but only for a short while, before that AT&T was far superior... and now has taken the bull by the horns again.
:)
I have had AT&T since 1998 and the quality of service is much better than Verizon.
I live on Long Island, and now currently goto school in Miami, FL.. and AT&T has great service there also.
I've always liked AT&T
I love the internet and the way it is. So free and non corporate controlled..
That's the way it was meant to be.
But we have a big problem arising. As more and more people need the access, we're running into less aware users who are easily controlled by large corporate vendors.
When I read this, all I can see is the government trying to force a redesign in the TCP/IP protocol.
Is this what it will come to? In order to "protect" copyrights, will we have to change how the internet works compleatly in order for it to be sufficient.
Will they try this?
hrm!
We don't know how our brain works, how ants brains work.. and most importantly how LIFE works.
this sort of development poses serious philisophical questions, that I don't think our society *can* answer.
What is life? We really don't know. Some say its some form of inteligence... so are these chips intelligence? yes.. but are they life?
We really don't know, and quite frankly, we'll never know.
Every explanation leads into a cycle of questions.
This technology is great, however we don't know how it will be implimented, nor do we know IF it will be implimented. If it ever got advanced enough, we would see INTENSE legislation being thrown back and forth. Chances are, the democratic world will destroy the technology if it is dangerous.
The problem could be others. The others. The other people from some unkown country, pissed off at the world, with their hands on this technology, ready to start another war.
Interesting.
How do we know you're conscious?
I'm just curious, am I conscious?
It can never be *exactly* the same way as a cat or dog brain works... we don't know how it works, in fact we're FAR from knowing how it works.
:) good argument
It's about time :)
I can't wait... Does anyone know if they'll impliment this on older craft?
All we ever hear about is how computer "hackers" who copy these CD's and distribute them are destroying the industry. Industry, heh.
Out of all the arguments I've heard on their side, I have *NOT ONCE* heard anything about the price of music these days.
Have you ever heard any of these big time vendors mention anything about the fact that if you goto virgin, or any other store, you're going to pay 18 bucks for one of these CD's? That's outrageous.
I can't stand walking into virgin, spending 60 bucks, and walk out with three pieces of plastic!
Yes, I believe in supporting the artist ten fold. But the fact is that the artist gets something like 75 cents from each CD that is bought.. I'm outraged. (I could be wrong about the exact price, but I'm guestimating.)
The fact is, the distributers/corporate labels are GREEDY. If the CD's were at a good price, like say, $6-8, then the amount of "copyright violations" would be reduced to very small amounts.
The problem is not with the audience, but with the greedy corporate owners. They just want to make more money, and the CDROM/Audio CD reader, etc. manufacturers must listen to the people who the industry depends on.
-Sase
P.S. A Thought to chew on. I still own over 200 legit CD's, that I bought, and I still buy them today. If I really like a CD, I've always bought it. It's nice to have a physical copy with all the booklets, etc. that come with it. BUT, I still download/burn music that I like/want to sample.
P.P.S. HEY! What about all those people who burn CD's that can only be found online? IE Tapers. A not-so-small group of people who *legally* make tapes of concerts (IE Dave Matthews Band, Phish, etc.) and distribute them online. These people, once they've obtained these copies, burn them to CD's so they can listen to them at home. A process that is 100% legal and *SUPPORTED* by the artist. What about them? What are they going to do? They'll have these recordings... with nothing to play them on. HOsh posh.
For your information, here at UM, It's not discouraged. However, I've noticed a few things while here.
This year @ UM, they dropped each port down to 10mbps in the dorm rooms. They also put a cap on the lines at 5mbps
Interestingly enough, this year they have put everything behind a NAT/Proxy. This has prooved to be somewhat of a problem.
Supposedly the reason behind this move was as follows:
1. Someone set up a server and leased multiple IP's in their dorm room, and hosted porn sites. I have yet to figure out how this person got an authority on DNS, but that information we don't know.
2. Many people were setting up FTP's to serve multiple clients.
It wasn't the peertopeer programs that did it, it was those who actually took advantage of our non locked down network. It was nice then, those who knew the possibilities, could use it as they felt necessary, while not taking advantage of it. But, they decided to take advantage of the system and flood the line with unnecessary bandwidth. Thus ruining it for all of us.
Thus, everything was put behind a proxy/NAT. Now, the connection in the dorms *suck* because they aren't doing it properly. I'm loosing like 30-50% of all packets sent out, within the campus network. Their servers pipe'ing all the traffic must be bogged down here at the U.
I did notice however (when performance wasn't varying from 0kbps to 3mbps, mostly towards the lower end..) that in the beginning of the year ports that Napster, and other programs use were blocked, and that wasn't too nice. I wound up using my own Proxy on one of my servers, off site.
The point is, that I think they won't be banning these things all together, but many providers will be implimenting strategies to imply discouragement of these services. IE. The implimentation of QoS and limiting everyone. Or, you will see more active flaging of people who use lots of bandwidth quite frequently.
I meant by "a move in volatile memory" a move from volatile to non volatile ram..
:)
Basically what you said
I think in the future we're going to see a move in volatile memory.
Instead of things being written directly to Harddrives, etc. I think we're going into the error of solid state memory.
Yes, this will lead to big problems if there are power outages etc. but I think this will all be "built in".
The only way this quick retrival is possible is through solid-state solutions...
The current videos can be stored on the solid state memory as they are transferred to large DB on very fast RAID'ed systems. The index, however, will remain in the solid state memory. This will allow for quick access, etc.
but.... we all know how expensive that is, or will be.
So I think until solid-state solutions are affordable, you're not going to have a quick indexing solution.
There comes a point in time where our physical hardware (HD's etc.) can't keep up with the processing bandwidth (sufficiently, that is) and we're going to need solid state solutions to keep up with those speeds.
This is one of those instances.
I could see how they would coexist.. but I think you all might find this interesting.
A few months ago I attended something in NYC called "PC-XPO" I'm sure a bunch of you have heard of it. It's a pretty large event. Many, many big companies come and show off their stuff. IE Compaq, Intel, AMD, etc.
Every station at this place was connected in some shape or form.
I would have to say that there were apprx. 1000-2000 computer systems there at one time. There were a lot of laptops operating wirelessly (802.11b). Also a significant amount of desktops were also working wirelessly.
Interestingly enough, several vendors were showing off their "new" bluetooth technology (like Toshiba, printer companies, etc.)
Point is, I must have brain cancer after spending so many hours there (no, not really). Who knows how many were transmitting across that frequency band. *BUT* they were all working in coexistance, and at very high speeds. There were some pretty smart people who designed the show, so they must have thought of the problems with the two technologies.
Interesting.
I am definitly one to test the reliability of Intel w/o a HSF.
I ran once (just to test) my processor w/o a HSF and was able to boot up win2k.. I have yet to figure that one out.
My system won't even get to post (I have an Athlon 1.4 and Abit a7m266)
So what does this mean. Does this mean that AMD has better protection that it just doesn't work? Therefor you get the idea that its not working b/c of heat? Whereas when you use intel, it keeps working, setting it self up for failure..
Hrm. I've fucked up my HSF installations.. but I've never smoked an AMD or Intel.
The idea of built in HSF is OK, except for the fact that now you can't replace it with your own monster (Like a Peltier Cooler, or a monster Dragon Orb [loud ass mofo])
Hrm. yup
Who are they going to tap? They can't possibly tap everything.. they don't do that now.
And where does their jurisdiction lie. Doesn't the FBI only have jurisdiction over State to State matters? If so:
If you have a packet that is sent to some other town in the same state, but has to hit a router in another state before it gets there, who has jurisdiction over it?
...and wouldn't the "tapping" be over lines that are *already* suspected? To tap everyone would be absolutly insane.
I think if they are wondering about Mr. Mafia in NY that is connected to Lightning.net they'll only concentrate on his/her IP's and not all of Lightning.net's traffic... Don't you think?
Hrm.
No?
:P
What's that?
Hrm. What's the budget?
:) So physical security is a must.
:)
You could get interesting.
If I had an OK budget, I would try the following:
Create an array of fibre cables running from terminal to server.
Throw an IPSec Box on each end of each fiber.
Use a random sequence (transmitted in the first packet of each sequence) for data to be transfered on each cable.
IE Packet 1 goes through cable 2 packet 3 goes through cable 1, and change that up every 50 packets or so.
Then cover the CAbles with OTDR and have that monitered on the server. Upon a tamper detection, have the connection shut off. Send notice of some kind through some other datapipe (A serial port with a repeater and Zener (I think that's the right spelling) Diodes to prevent a reverse in current, and have the connection sent to another PC (could be in the room actually) that can Dial out to call your cell or something.
That should suffice. However, this method is quite useless without physical security
If a hacker trys to get into one line (which might not be the right line at the time) he will immediatly set off the OTDR and parralize the system.
In the meantime (heh, if possible) he still has to break through IPsec *and* get through your own random cable swapping/packet swapping sequence.
I think that's impossible to break through. (almost?
WAsn't there a linux project that pooled the resources of multiple servers to create one virtual server... or really.. isn't there one out there.
Hrm.
*Nod* all of these servers should be placed far behind a strict ruleset firewall.
But what about Redundancy? That's one thing I don't like about this "datacenter" why should there be only one? Or.. why should an application have to call for just "one" server? Wouldn't it be more wise to develop the application across a dual array of servers? Each one of these servers could be easily patched in a matter of minutes, at the same time. (Say windows2k advanced servers.
I'm personally not a fan of MS server products.. Although I have had to use them for quite a few applications.. but there has to be a way to get by the "necesity" for DataCenter Server.
I think that this will be causing a great conflict amongst those around the world. How can they perfectly limit these taxes that they get?
And who is to say where *you are from* Should I be paying state taxes if I'm from New York but bring my laptop over to New Jersey for a day and buy something while I am there? I'm dialing into (heh) a connection in new york, bouncing through the routers in NYC and then out to some company in another state but purchasing from a company in NY.
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This plays great controversy, even for myself. I own an ISP along with two others. One is from MN, another from KY and I'm from NY. Our servers are located in WA and MN,.. so who pays taxes to whom? Does that mean we have to start paying taxes to major internet backbones? Will they want a piece of the pie, when they already have a nice chunk?
Hrm.
I agree that if you use a product professionaly you should pay for it.
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In retrospect, the money really isn't all that much.. actually its not much in comparison.
However, I do agree that to pay those prices as a student.. even with the discounts are horrible. Unfortunatly that's how the world works... with anything. A student who studies Graphic Design *has access* to photoshop just like a sound engineer who has access to a mixing console... it's the same thing.
That's why I support this philosophy, however illegal. If I am trying out a product, I will get it as Warez and use it. But if I ever make money for it, I will buy it. Those poor guys who sat there for hours and wrote it deserve some $ back
I think that the what you have to say has quite the validity. However, I believe that there will never be a "crush" like that in any nature.
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Actually, I think the market will stay the same for quite a long time (until something dramatic happens. IE the world ends)
The very nature as to why Windows has been so successful is purely based on its Userfriendly'ability. (Hah! Might some of us administrators laugh.) For my uses, Windows isn't too friendly all to friendly.
Microsoft has been lucky. Many of the problems that it has with its operating system have been ignored simply because they can. They have no *real* competitors in the industry so they feel its ok.
I think *nix's known entry into the market is going to sincerely change it.
We all know that the Windows 9x Kernels were *crap* but maybe we'll see some significant gain the quality in the future (A complete seperation from what we have now?)
The problem is however, that Linux is still not-so-user friendly. It requires some basic understanding of basis of which it operates. I believe that the market will remain as any other market does. We have the consumer grade products (Microsoft) and the professional grade products (*nix). Two seperate entities but used for (well, sort of) the same thing, but at different levels.
For example, everyone likes to record (sound) some things every once and a while. So we pick up a camcorder and record it. But do we break out some Digital Camera, a mixer and multiple microphones of different applications and locations to do so? I sure as hell don't
I think that a diversity like this will exist forever in the market. Those who have necesity for the applications will use whatever is most appropriate (or by preference). If they feel like hosting something like Yahoo! I doubt they're going to whip out a windows 98 box with Apache installed!
So what to do? Know what you need, and use what you need. For large companies, maybe a consultant might suggest a Linux backbone with windows 2000 terminals? While the major services of the organization will be provided by the Linux machine(s) the login services will be pooled together by Windows Servers. Who knows, but that's just a thought.
With all that said, I again repeat that I don't think Windows will ever be crushed, its just impossible. And I really don't think that MacOs will ever gain that much strength in the market. I wonder what most users are starting on these days? MacOS, or Windows? And what will the migrate to when they find either to be unacceptable? But there will always be a diversity in the world on who needs it, why they need it, and how much they know
Everyone talks of the common person who looks for the better cheaper deal, but usually they're jaded by advertisements and corporate marketing. Granted, this is a little off topic but, I happen to be a partner of an ISP that provides Web Hosting, DSL, etc. (We're incorporated btw, but we're not a big corporation.) Like any struggling Web Host, we host porn sites. Our problem? It's hard to compete with those big corporations that offer prices per gig that are way below ours. Worst off, my favourite situation is when a customer tells us (in comparison) that he can get "unlimited transfer" for X amount of dollars. Unlimited transfer? We find that in the market for 19.95/mo customers too. That's impossible, but the common customer can't grasp that. I usually give the example that, "What if I were Yahoo! and I hosted with them, for unlimited transfer.. do you really think they'll get hosting for 19.95/mo?" Of course, that's almost comparing apples to oranges.. but it helps to get the message across. The big corporations are filling the market with pretty images/slogans that attract the customers, regardless of their quality. Some times, their speed/quality is significantly less than us Mom and Pop ISP's, but they get more customers. So what?.. Here comes my point! There are plenty of people out there who understand this, and want the *better* service, with friendly, real support. They understand the difference. And what about word of mouth? That still goes a long way in this world. My company survives in this manor, nd that's what counts. So, in conclusion, this is not the death of the Mom&Pop ISPs, but merely a beginning of a better market.