That's like saying that we shouldn't produce safer cars because everyone doesn't buy one.
No. Your analogy is flawed.
If cars worked like exploits and patches, then every time a safer car came out, your car would suddenly become less safe than it had been yesterday- and it would become incumbent upon you to get it fixed. Cars, being physical objects, do not behave this way.
And hell, why train drivers, because, you know, crappy drivers are everywhere. Or like saying we shouldn't make furniture fireproof, because, you know, something else will burn.
All these analogies are flawed because they miss the point. When safer drivers are trained, existing drivers don't suddenly become more liable to be in accidents. When safer furniture comes out, the furniture in your living room does not suddenly develop an odor of gasoline.
Could you self contradisct yourself some more please.....using your logic, a safer car comes out and the old one is more unsafe...but if it's furniture..it doesn't become more unsafe?
Your whole rebuttal is totally flawed but I found it quite amusing how you negate your first statement with your second one lol...
Here's the answer....why would a criminal HAVE to work hard to find holes when there are ones out there published and non published...yes publishing gives them a lead to follow...but crafting an exploit for certain holes can be as much work as finding one...it depends on the whole...one of the two recently published IE holes is extremely hard to program for, yet when done..is extremely easy to use...
Just because it is still around doesn't mean it's popular. People still create velvet paintings and hold conventions for them but I wouldn't say they are popular
I'm starting to believe that a part of the reason people pirate is just sheer convenience. People are generally lazy by nature..most of our technology serves to make our lives easier..we can't even vacuum our own homes now..we have robots..and I think that for a lot of people it's just a lot more convenient to click to download a song or album, then click to listen. They don't have to leave the house, deal with the mall crowds, the stupid packaging on cds, or even to hit eject on their pc or player to put the cd in. I don't know about you, but it's also a lot easier for me to categorize and sort my music in digital form than it is to go looking through a book of cds, or a pile of cases, open it up, try not to scratch or fingerprint it, put it in the pc....it's just easier to use plain and simple.
And as for most people who supposedly won't put forth the extra effort to use a workaround, well..try telling that to my 60 year old mother who now cracks her own games...the internet, search engines, and tutorials make this far easier than it used to be.
"As for me, I like to dupe my CDs mainly so I can use them in the car without jeopardizing the originals. A copy limit would not hinder me in that regard."
uhh, please explain yourself..once you've scratched enough of your dupes and can no longer make them, then your only option is to workaround or use the original. If you use the original and scratch IT then you have no more cd...how on earth does this NOT hinder you in that regard?!!
eww geforce? ATI all the way pal..gotta love they were wearing the crown before nvidia existed and now it's back and forth...and hmm some cheating going on by manufacturers...it's funny how I don't have these issues you describe with all settings maxed..yes it slows down if I'm measuring the fps but I do not see nor notice anything choppyness wise. Maybe if all the new games actually used all the features in the new cards (they don't) and they never usually do..the newest cards usually have features game makers don't even use until 2 years later...I believe there is even a story here about it. And yes, you DID say that Hz was close enough to FPS to compare them...I guess we just have to agree to disagree because I can point to just as many sources that say your theory is bunk as I'm sure you can to my point.
Wow so now a frequency measurement is equal to fps...ok wonderboy, then why not just up the refresh if it's close enough for your argument...fps is not soley determined by the video card..put your 500 dollar card in a p3 and watch it goto shit...
oh boy, were not talking the difference between 30 and 60, were talking idiots saying they can actually SEE 100+FPS!!!! That is what they are arguing...point is...you don't need a 500 dollar card to put all options high and get 60FPS...if YOU do then you need a computer tweaking course...
yes but my point is that hardcore gamers argue the human eye can see more fps than it can...and they do this to justify spending 500 bux on newest vid cards...laughable at best
Not trying to troll seriously..because I say the same thing..but if you talk to gamers they somehow have miraculous eyes where gaming at the most fps is necessary and they will argue till they're blue that they can actually SEE a difference....I just think they are dumb imo
"Or did you think it said 'free' download? Better think again"
what was I thinking...you obviously believe two things-It will be unhackable and indy artists who have no ties to the RIAA won't be able to use the technology..
Voter apathy won't be the issue. The security of the vote will be. Even in the current quasi-evoting period, there are pages and pages of cases where votes were mysteriously lost, counted wrong, counted for the OTHER people vs. you, etc etc. I really wish Slashdot would deal with the bigger issues that are so obvious you have to be blind to not notice or think of them. Is everyone forgetting the last presidential election? I think so, now imagine a similar event happening for every public office. Now know that it's a real problem that's been happening for the past 10 years AT LEAST.
So because MOST people aren't using the tool correctly, we should get rid of the tool and not the idiotic programmer who USED the tool. Nice logic there assclown!
Once again, you need to be pissed and complain about the friggin person who CREATED it. Not the damn TOOL USED!!!! Having made an entire site in flash for 2 business to business NEWSPAPERS, I can tell you that if done correctly, your damn connection won't make a friggin difference. WTF?-Do you people think that Flash somehow makes the damn content bigger than if it were placed on an HTML page?!?!?!
You people DO understand that the file format Flash outputs, is, in fact, Open source?! It's not a closed format as half the slashasses would have you believe. Also, stay away from the Adobe/Flash combo as they've been trying it for the past 5 years and suck still to this day!
>>As someone who hates being bombarded with multimedia bullshit from "artists" when I'm seeking information, I found your comment a bit short-sighted as well.
Yes, they're trying to deliver an experience, but I'd like to be in control of when I receive an "experience". Having sound and slow-loading flash animations appear when I visit a website does not give me that control.
So your blaming the tool used to make the site versus whatever idiot programmed it in such as way? Awesome reasoning there buddy! Don't you get that with Flash, ANYTHING you want can be controlled BY you as long as the flash programmer has put this option in?! Try that with your browser.
>>If everyone is complaining, perhaps we should be paying attention to the complaints. The only folks that really love Flash-based websites, as far as I can tell, are other Flash artists.
I think the AC post below pretty much summarizes the response here.
Please let me know when you Flash Bashing HTML hypers can build a complete stand alone executable application using JUST HTML. What? You can't? I didn't think so.
Yeah, there's MORE than enough security professsionals to go around...what CRACK are you smoking? Have you checked the state of security across the industry lately?!?!?! Do you even READ Slashdot at all?!?!?! If they were in such abundant supply, the internet would not have as many security problems as we have now. There are actually very FEW people qualified enough, just cause you can wing it, doesn't mean you can DO it.
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Obsesive compulsive disorder....I pretty much sound just like you and that's exactly what it is....good luck! :)
That's like saying that we shouldn't produce safer cars because everyone doesn't buy one.
No. Your analogy is flawed.
If cars worked like exploits and patches, then every time a safer car came out, your car would suddenly become less safe than it had been yesterday- and it would become incumbent upon you to get it fixed. Cars, being physical objects, do not behave this way.
And hell, why train drivers, because, you know, crappy drivers are everywhere. Or like saying we shouldn't make furniture fireproof, because, you know, something else will burn.
All these analogies are flawed because they miss the point. When safer drivers are trained, existing drivers don't suddenly become more liable to be in accidents. When safer furniture comes out, the furniture in your living room does not suddenly develop an odor of gasoline.
Could you self contradisct yourself some more please.....using your logic, a safer car comes out and the old one is more unsafe...but if it's furniture..it doesn't become more unsafe?
Your whole rebuttal is totally flawed but I found it quite amusing how you negate your first statement with your second one lol...
Here's the answer....why would a criminal HAVE to work hard to find holes when there are ones out there published and non published...yes publishing gives them a lead to follow...but crafting an exploit for certain holes can be as much work as finding one...it depends on the whole...one of the two recently published IE holes is extremely hard to program for, yet when done..is extremely easy to use...
DUPE DUPE DUPE FUCKING DUPE!!!! Ya, there's not enough OTHER news out there to not DUPE a friggin story....damnit all
Just because it is still around doesn't mean it's popular. People still create velvet paintings and hold conventions for them but I wouldn't say they are popular
I'm starting to believe that a part of the reason people pirate is just sheer convenience. People are generally lazy by nature..most of our technology serves to make our lives easier..we can't even vacuum our own homes now..we have robots..and I think that for a lot of people it's just a lot more convenient to click to download a song or album, then click to listen. They don't have to leave the house, deal with the mall crowds, the stupid packaging on cds, or even to hit eject on their pc or player to put the cd in. I don't know about you, but it's also a lot easier for me to categorize and sort my music in digital form than it is to go looking through a book of cds, or a pile of cases, open it up, try not to scratch or fingerprint it, put it in the pc....it's just easier to use plain and simple.
And as for most people who supposedly won't put forth the extra effort to use a workaround, well..try telling that to my 60 year old mother who now cracks her own games...the internet, search engines, and tutorials make this far easier than it used to be.
"As for me, I like to dupe my CDs mainly so I can use them in the car without jeopardizing the originals. A copy limit would not hinder me in that regard."
uhh, please explain yourself..once you've scratched enough of your dupes and can no longer make them, then your only option is to workaround or use the original. If you use the original and scratch IT then you have no more cd...how on earth does this NOT hinder you in that regard?!!
eww geforce? ATI all the way pal..gotta love they were wearing the crown before nvidia existed and now it's back and forth...and hmm some cheating going on by manufacturers...it's funny how I don't have these issues you describe with all settings maxed..yes it slows down if I'm measuring the fps but I do not see nor notice anything choppyness wise. Maybe if all the new games actually used all the features in the new cards (they don't) and they never usually do..the newest cards usually have features game makers don't even use until 2 years later...I believe there is even a story here about it. And yes, you DID say that Hz was close enough to FPS to compare them...I guess we just have to agree to disagree because I can point to just as many sources that say your theory is bunk as I'm sure you can to my point.
Wow so now a frequency measurement is equal to fps...ok wonderboy, then why not just up the refresh if it's close enough for your argument...fps is not soley determined by the video card..put your 500 dollar card in a p3 and watch it goto shit...
oh boy, were not talking the difference between 30 and 60, were talking idiots saying they can actually SEE 100+FPS!!!! That is what they are arguing...point is...you don't need a 500 dollar card to put all options high and get 60FPS...if YOU do then you need a computer tweaking course...
yes but my point is that hardcore gamers argue the human eye can see more fps than it can...and they do this to justify spending 500 bux on newest vid cards...laughable at best
Not trying to troll seriously..because I say the same thing..but if you talk to gamers they somehow have miraculous eyes where gaming at the most fps is necessary and they will argue till they're blue that they can actually SEE a difference....I just think they are dumb imo
One of the finest examples of real world karma in action..:)
"Innovision says it's getting ready for when mobile users will be able to download music tracks by just tapping their device against a poster"
Ok, but can they make it so we can fix electronics by tapping our fists against them?
"Or did you think it said 'free' download? Better think again"
what was I thinking...you obviously believe two things-It will be unhackable and indy artists who have no ties to the RIAA won't be able to use the technology..
"Innovision says it's getting ready for when mobile users will be able to download music tracks by just tapping their device against a poster."
and the RIAA is getting ready to sue them!
Voter apathy won't be the issue. The security of the vote will be. Even in the current quasi-evoting period, there are pages and pages of cases where votes were mysteriously lost, counted wrong, counted for the OTHER people vs. you, etc etc. I really wish Slashdot would deal with the bigger issues that are so obvious you have to be blind to not notice or think of them. Is everyone forgetting the last presidential election? I think so, now imagine a similar event happening for every public office. Now know that it's a real problem that's been happening for the past 10 years AT LEAST.
LOL, it's not. It's only when they do drugs and don't publicly take the high (no pun) road. :)
So because MOST people aren't using the tool correctly, we should get rid of the tool and not the idiotic programmer who USED the tool. Nice logic there assclown!
Once again, you need to be pissed and complain about the friggin person who CREATED it. Not the damn TOOL USED!!!! Having made an entire site in flash for 2 business to business NEWSPAPERS, I can tell you that if done correctly, your damn connection won't make a friggin difference. WTF?-Do you people think that Flash somehow makes the damn content bigger than if it were placed on an HTML page?!?!?!
You people DO understand that the file format Flash outputs, is, in fact, Open source?! It's not a closed format as half the slashasses would have you believe. Also, stay away from the Adobe/Flash combo as they've been trying it for the past 5 years and suck still to this day!
>>As someone who hates being bombarded with multimedia bullshit from "artists" when I'm seeking information, I found your comment a bit short-sighted as well.
Yes, they're trying to deliver an experience, but I'd like to be in control of when I receive an "experience". Having sound and slow-loading flash animations appear when I visit a website does not give me that control.
So your blaming the tool used to make the site versus whatever idiot programmed it in such as way? Awesome reasoning there buddy! Don't you get that with Flash, ANYTHING you want can be controlled BY you as long as the flash programmer has put this option in?! Try that with your browser.
>>If everyone is complaining, perhaps we should be paying attention to the complaints. The only folks that really love Flash-based websites, as far as I can tell, are other Flash artists.
I think the AC post below pretty much summarizes the response here.
Please let me know when you Flash Bashing HTML hypers can build a complete stand alone executable application using JUST HTML. What? You can't? I didn't think so.
echo....echo....echo...
Yeah, there's MORE than enough security professsionals to go around...what CRACK are you smoking? Have you checked the state of security across the industry lately?!?!?! Do you even READ Slashdot at all?!?!?! If they were in such abundant supply, the internet would not have as many security problems as we have now. There are actually very FEW people qualified enough, just cause you can wing it, doesn't mean you can DO it.
Insert Attention for 9yr old AC here.