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New Terminator 3 Trailer Released
An anonymous reader writes "Sony has just released a fantastic Terminator 3 trailer on the Apple trailer site. After several ho hum WB trailers I was feeling like this movie was going to be a re-tread, but the Sony trailer really raised my blood temperature. Also I checked out the official Terminator 3 website. Although it's flash only (major sin), it is full of good stuff. The time travel forum could use a bit of filling out."
the story doesn't get ruined by too much plot leakage. T2 would have been great if you didn't know that arnie was the good guy.....
Isn't it great that we have a company like Apple Computer that will publish (freely, I might add) trailers for movies? In a time when we see an increasing push to capitalize on every possible stream of revenue it makes me happy to see a single company that puts something on the market for free...of course, if you don't have their proprietary software, you're screwed...
In order to be immortal you must be organize
Anyone got it on bitorrent yet?
rus
Cheap UK and US VPS
you win again Terminator!
I really want to see this movie do well and be engaging for the audience...Arnold's lost a lot of his power to newcomers like Vin Diesel, and I think that a new Terminator Movie done right could smack thme across the face and say:
:)
this is how and action movie should be made
still, though....I'm a lot more excited about the matrixes than T3
Who is the unlucky robot, who will be violently killed this time.
May Peace Prevail On Earth
It certainly appears to fulfill its gatling gun quota.
I wasn't sure what kind of flick this was going to be, like the original poster said I thought it was going to be a bit of a retread... but if a movie has gatling guns it automatically makes it about twice as good. Look at Predator for example.
Or maybe it's just me...
Intolerance for ambiguity is the mark of the authoritarian personality.
No Jim Cameron, no Linda Hamilton...
We'll see, but I don't have my hopes too high...
Gonna wait and see what the reviews are like before I shell out.
N.
"Nothing strengthens authority so much as silence." - Charles de Gaulle
To release this trailer right after the Matrix sequel is released?
Bad timing if you ask me.
I love the smell of Karma in the morning
T3-international-tlr_m480.mov
You can do this yourself for the other trailers by viewing the pagesource and putting the letter 'm' before the resolution number.
--Anonymous Karma Whore
How can the first post be marked redundant? All I said was that T3 was gonna be a great movie. Well, from now on I'll shamelessly karmawhore:
More previews are availble Here
In Quicktime, WMP and Realplayer.
I'm not Seth.
You go now or I re-arrange your organs.
I call for an law suit against this movie, for cruelty to the time-space continuum and Artifical intellgent organisms.
http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/a518c4ff1125bc/1 a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178ef01f93c6f55ecc40a5178 5e65ac332a0016d/T3-international-tlr_480.mov
That took all of 10 seconds to find. Lazy, lazy.
I guess people in the future are genetically engineered to be a lot more flexible, in order to better fight the machines. In fact 95% of their skeletal structure is now converted to cartilage.
This explains why when they die and decompose, all that's left are their frikin' skulls.
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
Although it's flash only (major sin)
Why is it a "major sin" that it is Flash only?
The producers of this site wanted to make an impressive multi-media rich site to make people want to go see their film. The only way to really do that effectively is with Flash. The vast majority of people have the Flash plug-in, and won't really care (or even know) what format the site is in.
Yes, the world would be a better place if multimedia web sites could be practically developed using open tools and open file formats such as SVG. But they can't. So people use Flash. Live with it.
I still don't understand why SVG isn't default in all OSS browsers. You can complain about Flash or you can try to change the status quo. Many people in the OSS community like to complain...
Arnold: Come with me if you want to live.*
Jon: Let's get out of here quick! The new terminator is on her way!
Arnold: Do not worry. The new terminator is installing feminine products, this will take some time*.
*Insert proper Austrian accent for effect.
What is the reasoning here? Is it for purposes of control? Wouldn't trading and mirroring of these files just generate more publicity? Wouldn't it reduce the cost of bandwidth by distributing the effort accross the web?
wget 'http://progressive.stream.aol.com/wb/gl/wbonline/ progressive/t3/t3_tlr_m480_dl.mov'
here
:)
cheers,
pol
Direct link to the movie file for poor windows sods who are stuck with the QuickTime player (14 MB) (just in case you wanted to save that to your HD for some obscure reason (read: it sucks).
Remove the space between / and progressive in the link above.
I found the whole mental institute part utterly amusing in T2.
/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
ehhh... linux box here... can't watch quicktime plugins...
http://www.imdb.com/Title?0181852
Mark Famiglietti .... Scott Peterson
Isn't that the guy who just murdered his wife and unborn child?
Some cameo :P
/^[A-Z0-9._%+-]+@[A-Z0-9.-]+\.[A-Z]{2,4}$/i
The hot one! How they dare!
May Peace Prevail On Earth
MPlayer plays it very well. Just go to the page with the movie, press Ctrl-I to get the list of media links in the page, copy and paste it:
$ mplayer 'http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/a518c4ff1125bc/ 1a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c0 2589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178ef01f93c6f55ecc40a517 85e65ac332a0016d/T3-international-tlr_480.mov'
Or just copy this URL
Well, at least this trailer didn't have that god awful line. I had made up my mind to save my $9 on this one. Still, if they yank that line from the movie too, then I may just have to check it out. Especially if that was Claire Danes I saw in there.
*droooooools*
Sipping on Jolt and Dew. Laid back. With my mind of my cubicle and my cubicle on my mind.
Anyone know how to get the .mov file? I never got streaming QuickTime working in linux (is it possible?) so I can't watch the trailer right now :- /
Quicktime can't even manage to play fullscreen on my 2GHz machine, so I usually transcode anyway.
Enjoy. Looks pretty danged cool to me.
I can confirm that this trick works :)
"Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
The time travel forum could use a bit of filling out
it already has been, you just can't see it yet...
This trailer dissapoints. It looks like a money grab movie. It looks like it might be Pg-13. It seems to have the T2 plot minus the interesting parts. It has almost no actors over 25. Sexism aside, the thought of a young, hot female villain doesn't work. The thought of Arnold fighting a 20 something girl for an hour and a half sound boring. The sets in the trailer look very cheesy (esp. the military hq with the plywood looking consoles and switches from radio shack). Theres no T1 or T2 actors.
Terminator is a war movie, this is going to come off like "The Tuxedo".
why didnt they get Edward Furlong to reprise his role? since it takes place when it does he would still be the perfect age to play John Connor, but instead we get some no name butthead. and i want my linda hamilton in tight clothes!!
Escape
yeehaw! sounds like a quality screenplay!!
As if "Bad to the Bone" wasn't a total tip-off that Arnie was the good guy? What, was "Bad to the Bone" missing from the theatrical release or something?
... and Mark Famiglietti is the actor's name.
I'm getting the mow at 1.3 MBytes/s and the site is humming along quite well, despite the directl ink on Slashdot front page. amazing =)
A secret fear of mine is that I'll meet Steve Jobs and accidentally, of reflex, refere to QuickTime as "CrapTime". Anyhoo, the new trailer looks pretty cool.
Sounds to me like the future doesn't like John Connor. They keep sticking him with the same old model Terminator (not even a newer model that looks like the old one) while the one coming to kill him has all the latest bells and whistles.
It's going to have to be fantastic to beat the trailer for Charlies Angels 2, which looks amazing.
(Not to mention X2, The Matrix 2/3, etc.)
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Anyone know what the choral music that is playing during the second half of the trailer is?
"All military systems have been infected."
Goddamn, I *told* you to patch Outlook Express!
Free iPods - now in the UK!
If the AI had used more than one, then it would take more than one 10 minute session in the matrix to free everyone.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
"Although it's flash only (major sin), it is full of good stuff."
Flash works in Linux, but this quicktime 6 sorenson codec doesn't. Not only that, but they wanna stream it for extra assholicness.
Ever dangle a a twinkie in front of a 300 lb man? Somebody's goin down.
The poster mentions that the entire site is done in flash. And while I'll never make a site totally in flash, what was the sin here? It seemed to me like he had no problems accessing the site, so why bash flash? (The amount of animation between clicks is over the top tho)
And I'm just curious, I understand the bad parts to an all flash site, accessability, need for a plugin etc. but with flash installed on 93(90,91?)% of all browsers is it really all that bad to use?
-- taking over the world, we are.
Perhaps they will include the "classic" sounds of spacecraft zooming through space and displacing ummm... space dust... hmmmm. Some day sci-fi will grow up, some day.
Can someone explain to me how Arnold is back in this one? I thought he melted himself in the last movie.
Remember? "Nowh Ie nouw wiey you kry..."
needs more cowbell.
-Look lively. LOOK LIVELY!!! --Mr. Shmallow
Ah, is it me or did any of you find the scenre where the female Terminator wraps her legs around Arnie *backwards* disturb you? Gives me the creeps.
:)
Leg wrapping should only be done forwards if you ask me
P.S. I think I noticed she's got the Britnet Speers increasing bra size problem. The nude clips don't match the resulting outfit....
They certainly know how to appeal to my (and 50% of the population's) id.
== Jez ==
Do you miss Firefox? Try Pale Moon.
That just looks freaking cool as all hell. Thinking how early on T2 was made with respect to advancement of CG, T3 should really blow us away. Seems like the only weak link on SciFi these days is the limitations of human imagination.
Flash is fine if you are a) able to install it and b) able to drive it as an able bodied human. It sucks if you want to search through the contents of the site using, say, Google to find all the references to, say, gatling guns. It totally sucks if you are disabled and rely on braille readers, text to speech browsers or other such aids, because at this point flash doesn't support those sorts of accessibility features at anything more than a trivial level.
Cheers,
Toby Haynes
Anything I post is strictly my own thoughts and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with the opinions of IBM.
seems like every movie nowadays is a reflection of our end-of-the-world fear, exactly like what happened during the cold war hype of the 50's with all those radiation-induced monster movies. then of course there's our obsession with sex -- not surprised at all to see a female terminator, of course she's hot, and of course she's running around in her skivvies. i'll still probably go see it, but it just seems to me that our entire culture has this undercurrent of fear right now.
i could live a little longer in this prison
Please don't mod this up too high, as I don't think their server can handle a slashdotting. thanks.
That is the only thing truly wrong with the trailer. Arnold should say... "I'll be back!"
The end of the world isnt just a fear, look at 911, these things could happen.
If you use Linux, please help development of Autopac
From the "we made them female so they would be less agressive" detparment comes the latest creation...
The Chick-inator
Grab some haggandazz and prepare for the beating of your life!!!
comment directly in my journal
terminator.3.internationaltrailer_xvid.transcode.4 80x272.avi.torrent
Please don't mod this up too high, as I don't think their server can handle a slashdotting. thanks.
It's a Vulcan Rotary Cannon - jeeesus, call yourself a film-buff/man?
What a lame hook line. Whatever happened to "I'll be back" or "Hasta la vista, baby"? Now, those were decent memorable lines.
GET FREE APPLE STUFF!
There are certain kinds of movies that only Arnold can do right, and this is one of them.
Vin Diesel could never play Terminator, neither could stallone. Arnold is also good in movies that are sci fi, like Total Recall the more recent sci fi movie he made about cloning.
Some stuff only Arnold can do, and then theres stuff only Vin Diesel can do, like racing cars around.
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This story sounds too much like an ad for me. Even with the mention of the weak WB ads. Hmmm
Thank you. Drive through. (:wq)
OK, I can understand the idea of having a female Terminator to take out Connor. Seems logical enough.
But the actress just doesn't seem to be the right one for the part, at least judging from the trailers. Robert Patrick was absolutely awesome as the T-1000 in T2 -- even though he barely showed any expression, he still felt menacing (maybe because of that utter blankness on his face). But the T-X...just feels wrong to me. (OK, maybe I should see the movie first before passing judgement too much.)
Woulda been even cooler if she was played by Linda Hamilton. Now THAT would mess with your head, wouldn't it? ;-)
Cheers,
Ethelred
Everyone wants to be Ethelred. Even I want to be Ethelred.
It would tip me off, anyways...
Or is the time traveling confusing me again?
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
But does it run Linux?
doesn't the plot look like a rehash of T2? "new and improved terminator travels back in time to take out John Connor but is stopped by our favorite old-school terminator, arnold."
i'll see it - don't get me wrong. i'm just a little worried. there does seem more scenes from the future, but are they just filler for the time-travel thread or actually related to a different plot thread? we'll find out....
smd4985
For fsck's sake, did you even bother to follow the basic plot of the movie? Ah-nuld's character is a cyborg, made by the robots in 2029. He is identical (except for his orders) to the bad guy in the original Terminator film. The robots in 2029 presumably have a factory where they churn out Arnies by the dozen.
By the way, isn't Arnie getting a little bit old to be playing an invulnerable robot?
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demo
--Andy Finkel (J. Klass?)
the Gattling guns aren't what makes Predator good, it's the shit-hot editing and great music combined with an Alien that doesn't speak English.
:)
Ah com on! Arnold does speak English! (He just has a think accent
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Overall, a much better trailer than the first one. I still have little hope that something good will come out of this...
Sure, this is Hollyweird we are talking about, and they are hardly one to care about consistancy, but in the 1st movie, when Kyle comes back to save Sarah, he talks about that the humans had won and they'd smashed skynet. Skynet was basically in the death throes and sending out the last bits of machines to the past to try and win.
Assuming this is correct, where do all these 'spaecial advanced' cyborgs come from? Unless Skynet has time traval facilities all over the world that do nothing but send machines to the past.
So rise up, all ye lost ones, as one, we'll claw the clouds.
That's the large version? ( Yeah i know it is), but the quality isn't overly impressive - Apple trying to shaft T3?
Their web sites shal be assimilated!
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
the chick terminator comes in all naked, but it looks like they keep her hair covering her fun bags.
for me, it isn't a good action movie where a futuristic legion of killer robots destroy our race unless I get to see some naked chicks.
There are some odd things afoot now, in the Villa Straylight.
are politics.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
OH, GUYS, I'VE GOT IT!!!!!111^H^H^H!!!
How about a gatling gun that "lauches" rockets containing mini-gatling guns that launch mini rockets that shoot out mini-mini-rockets that search out as much goatse as I can handle?
HuuHuuHuu, SLOTH LOVES CHUNK!
OMG! Wau!
Here are the saving instruction for Windows XP and IE6.
1 a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178ef01f93c6f55ecc40a5178 5e65ac332a0016d/T3-international-tlr_m480.mov
1 a1a1aaa2198c627970773d80669d84574a8d80d3cb12453c02 589f25382f668c9329e0375e8178ef01f93c6f55ecc40a5178 5e65ac332a0016d/T3-international-tlr_m480.mov
/a /s switches enabled. Like: /a /s *.mov
I downloaded the high resolution trailer, so it's about 14 MB
Here is the direct link, hopefully it hasn't expired yet.
http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/a518c4ff1125bc/
If you clicked on the given link above and downloaded the trailer directly, then you can skip Step 1. Go directly to Step 3.
1. View the HTML source, search for the name "T3-internation-tlr_480.mov"
1a. Change this to "T3-internation-tlr_m480.mov"
2. You should now have the http address:
http://a772.g.akamai.net/5/772/51/a518c4ff1125bc/
Open it up in a web browser, and let it your browser download the trailer.
3. Open up a command prompt.
4. Go to the location:
"C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\"
5. Do a "dir" search with the
dir
6. Hopefully this will come up with something. For my system, I downloaded the high resolution trailer. So my search came up with:
"T3-international-tlr_m480[1].mov"
7. Copy this to another location on your hard drive.
copy "T3-international-tlr_m480[1].mov" C:\Temp
8. Simple as that right?
Remember when Arnie got his arm stuck in the cogs in T2.. he pulled himself out ripping his arm off, the arm got stuck in the cogs.
Right, forward to when they are sending Arnie to the big melt in the sky. They must destroy all evidence of Arnie to prevent his technology being recovered and used to trigger a future war. They first throw the intact arm from the lab into the lava. Good. Then they sink Arnie into the lava too. Good.
But wait, they didn't recover his arm (crushed perhaps) from the cogs.
I always saw that as a potential plot hole to make a third film. If we assume that someone from Dysons lab may have recovered this arm.
But this film will most likely ignore most, if not all of what was in T2.
I loved the first movie, and the second was really good. I don't think it is going out on a limb to say this one is pushing it. Part of the draw of the first movie, and many good movies, are the untold stories. Knowing that the machines took over is scary, I don't need to see exactly how it happened. I don't need to have the drawn-out details of a war shown to me to get the concept or make it any more powerful. The second movie survived on two things: the cool special effects of the T2000, and the twist that Arnold was the bad guy. The story wasn't all that interesting.
When I saw the first trailer, I thought it looked lame. Now this post seems to think that THIS trailer is a complete 180 on that. I have seen girl's butts before, I have seen explosions, and guns, and war battles. I have heard this story, I know what happens. To me, this is just another action movie.
Now, I am going to sit down and pray that they didn't taint the Matrix the way everything else seems to have been tainted.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
I cringe when I see these trailers. This film is going to be so bad. Whats with those nukes, they dont even look realistic. As if you'd be able to see the missile trail. They got the nuke scene spot on in T2. And that "All systems infected" "What the hell is going on" scene looks so bad I almost cried. *yawn* I might avoid this film on principle. The Matrix is going to destroy this one.
Flash isn't a sin, it works on Linux. However flashING say, a group of old nuns, would be sinful. Amusing, but sinful...
on May 15th we have the matrix. just kidding.
You know, if and when we ever get strong AI, can imagine what our little impressionable creations are going to think when they get around to watching all those DVDs of them turning on us and blowing us to smitherines?
...who has been told that he is an evil murdering son of a bitch by nature and one fine day daddy will battle him to the death.
After all, the premise of this movie was that Skynet was a paranoid psychopath because it was made for the specific job of controlled killing of human beings. What if instead we make an AI after the alan touring model - an AI exactly like a child which we can educate and grow up until it is indistinguishable from a human...
Would you like some original sin with those apples?
What kind of sick, twisted mind would give a robot an Austrian accent?
It doesn't make sense I tell you!!
It was called Terminator.
Seriously, T2 was just a rehash of T1... With better Special Effects. Do you seriously think it would end in the same damn foundry? Oh how original.
By the looks of things, T3 will end up in the same damn foundry again.
Has any sane person converted this to mpg yet so that people who aren't mindless drones can watch it?
What if this IS the shape changing model, it just happened to kill Movie Star Arnie as he was crusing around LA in on his mid-life crisis harley and stole his form, the way the previous T1000 took as default the form of that cop who was checking out the hole in the chain link fence at the start of T2.
Arnie. Dead at 55. Truly an American Icon.
.. or is Arnold starting to look a lot like Keith Richards? Terminator 4: Rise of the Geriatrics.
So long, and thanks for all the Phish
So how do they make new Americans then?
Why do you think we are a nation of Immigrants?
I was planning on replying to this, but I just saw someone drive away in my car. They changed the plates, though.
Hopefully they will repark it and replace the plates before the police arrive, again (seventh time this week).
Please.
"If you could only see what I've seen with your eyes..." - Roy Batty
That's exactly what I was thinking. At least large Matrix trailer was large enough to make my machine cry...
"If anything can go wrong, it will." - Murphy
you can always look in . . . . /tmp/(your user id number)/Temporary Items/QTPluginTemp(random string)
/tmp/501/Temporary Items/QTPluginTemp55271
ie,
I'm not sure if anyone pointed this out, but I think it's worth repeating if so... this movie is NOT directed by James Cameron. Think of the difference between Aliens and Alien 3 or 4.
I'm not saying another directory couldn't pull it off okay. But the truth is, if Cmeron did it... it would be good. And if he isn't involved, some directory has very big shoes to fill and seldom does anyone rise to the ocassion.
Yes, the trailer was good. Heck, I'd say even really good! Better than the Hulk trailer. I think they should just stop making movies and make trailers. The Art of the Trailer has reached such refinement that even Final Fantasy looked far-eaching and original in the trailers!
One of my favorite pass-times: Guess which movie the music comes from. In almost all instances the music in a trailer is from a pervious block-buster and not from the movie itself (since scoring is one of the final steps). For a long time everyone was using music from The Rock. Then Gladiator. I couldn't place this one... it sounded somewhat generic but might have been from Gladiator or the last Star Wars or something. I'll have to listen to it a few more times.
Anyone know which it is?
David Whatley
I thought it was amazing when I was a kid. Now I think it's retarded.
---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?
I'll be back... when I need more money.
you think the machines would *choose* to run n e thing else?
Somebody please tell me why Terminator 2 looks better than what we've seen on T3? I don't mean from a plot point of view, I'm talking about the effects and lighting. Felt like a straight-to-DVD movie.
The nuclear blasts, for example, just aren't very convincing. Anybody remember the nuke from T2? Now THAT was cool.
I dunno, so far (from a visual point of view) it feels very rushed.
"Derp de derp."
Which is fine for the development of an endoskeletal structure, but not for the chip - which was the key part. The arm was perhaps evidence of the technology... but the chip was what Cyberdyne (present-day parent of future Skynet) based their computer technology on.
They could probably wrangle that out into the arm still promoting Terminator technology, but more likely Arnie is just another T-800 that came from the future (note that he wouldn't have the memories of the previous Arnie though).
Glory hole.
With the butt shot and all, I would rate the trailer at PG-13, which would be a first for my recollection. Usually the trailers are fairly tame.
I wonder if there will be any public outcry by the conservatives?
Who am I to blow against the wind? -- Paul Simon
It'll actually be in /tmp/(your user number).
It just so happens that 501 is the user number of the first user created on the machine - so, if it's "your" mac and you're the only one using it, 501 is a good place to look.
Otherwise - you'll have to hunt around a bit.
I don't know what you guys could be bitching about. That nuclear war looks cool and you get to see her ass, looks like a keeper to me.
Burn Hollywood Burn
the preview to AOTC made that movie look really good too. and i can't even think about that movie without getting cringes from it's spectacular awfullness.
i'm not say T3 won't be good, just the old wanring... never trust a trailer.
"The direction controls are the same in Nethack as they are in vi." "Yeah, I hardly ever die in vi anymore."
He always manages to scrape off one side of his face (and whatever hides the red LED in his eyeball), revealing that he is in fact a robot. Maybe if he used some sort of protective gear?
Matt
James Cameron: "I didn't really care for [Terminator 3], and to be perfectly honest I felt that I told the story."
I agree completely. Terminator 2 simply finishes the story that T1 begins. They are simply producing T3 because they know they will make a hefty profit off of releasing yet another sequel to a highly popular duet of films, and Cameron knows this. I'm not saying that T3 will be a horrible movie, but I don't think that it's really necessary.
Offtopic, but...
In your sig, what Fermi said boils down to, "A sufficiently advanced civilization will either kill itself or... it won't."
Yeah, that's deep. Nothing like being famous for stating the bleeding obvious...
*** *** You're just jealous 'cause the voices talk to me... ***
Seems to me,
That is is at least the second trailer from Rise of the Machines. Anyone have a link to that first one? I think the ending was better.
Guns, blondes, shiny things, computers that don't work. Life is good.
gunnar.
I've been to many movie websites, but this one really stands out. If you are a flash junky, you'll see right away that are doing some really cool things (looks like they are pulling images from a database using XML)...The fact that fans can upload pictures/skins & stuff is also really cool. The featured artist stuff is off the hook (great idea... sort of open source art). I also like the real (apparently unmoderated for negative comments) message boards. Anyway I don't find the fact that they did in flash to be a major sin... the only major sin I see is the long load animation. The site would almost surely retain more viewers if they had a short and speedy load with an option to see the animation later (and background loads of all the images)...
Ok guys, who out there watched the trailer, saw the she-bot wrap her legs backwards around Arnie, and thought, "Oh yeah..... I'm in LOVE..." My mind is still racing with the possibilities.
... um... the possibilities? It would sure explain why Robert Patrick's career took off after 1991...
Which makes me wonder... When women watch T2 and see the cop-bot changing shapes, do they start to imagine,
*** *** You're just jealous 'cause the voices talk to me... ***
So because MOST people aren't using the tool correctly, we should get rid of the tool and not the idiotic programmer who USED the tool. Nice logic there assclown!
how good can this be without Linda Hamilton?
Yeah, arnold is cool. the chick terminator looks cool. But come on. Without Linda it just isnt the same.
Because they didn't destroy all the Terminator parts before he lowered himself into the molten metal. If you'll remember, they threw the arm and the chip from Cyberdyne (or whatever it was called) but they didn't throw in the arm that was ripped from Arnold by that big gear.
Is it possible I'm the only one who ever noticed this, or am I dumb and didn't notice them throwing in the second arm?
You want to know who isn't running Firefox 2.x? They spell it "definately" and "rediculous".
I was relieved to see an American flag flying proudly in the trailor. I had been concerned that since the U.S. military is somewhat to blame (at least according to the timeline presented in the first movie) for the near destruction of humankind, this latest installement might have certain unpatriotic overtones. Fortunately, that does not seem to be the case. Thank you Warner Bros for standing up for the U.S of A!
but the chip was what Cyberdyne (present-day parent of future Skynet) based their computer technology on.
Future Skynet will never exist. Cyberdyne engineers who were savvy enough to back up their data about the T2 chip and the arm, try to resume their work but are thrown in jail in T3 for violating the DMCA. Even more cold-hearted and brutal than the liquid terminator!
*SPOILER*
(End of T3 when Cyberdyne researchers are being led away)
Ahnold-"I know now why you cry..."
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And the OS she runs on???
BSDM. (BSD-Modified)
Gee, I see the beginning of a plot for my very own porno!
John Conner has just turned 18 and a female Terminatix has been sent from the future to whip his ass (literally!). Can our Onan^H^H^H^HOpen-source hero subdue this digital dominatrix by giving this villan the recom-piledriving of her life?
Coming soon to a Blockbuster Video near you!
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Studies have shown naked women to have such an effect... ;-)
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I like nonsense, it wakes up the brain cells.
-- Dr. Seuss
OK, without getting into a geek pissing contest over who the most obsessive Terminator fan in existence is, I've spent a frightening percentage of my life collecting, studying, and pondering all things Terminator. It doesn't speak well about me actually having a life, but having consumed every script rewrite, novelization, production note, and version of both films that's available to the public (as well as a bit or two that isn't), I do feel that I'm qualified to speak on this subject with some authority.
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;-)
First off, there is no firmly established cannon for the Terminator series, and there are enough conflicts between differing versions of each movie to prevent one from being able to point to the movies as being the final say. With that said, the most internally consistent tellings of the Terminator story seem to be the novels by William Wisher and Randall Frakes.
Both are very close to the films, but with much more background detail and making a bit more logical sense. The T1 novel is based on the shooting script for the movie, while the T2 novel was based on a pre-production version of the script that had a couple of last-minute changes and edits before it became a shooting script- mostly for budgetary reasons and to make the final scene a bit more climactic on screen.
That having been said, here's the reason why there are multiple Arnies (in more detail than you probably ever wanted. Sorry.)
Skynet patterns the terminators to look like normal (albeit somewhat large) humans. Whether it uses real humans as the pattern (as indicated in the "Infiltrator" novels) or makes up original designs on its own is never firmly established- probably a bit of both. Regardless, it clearly can't make them ALL look just like Schwarzenegger- it would be way too easy to spot them. (In T1, Reese mentions to Sarah that he couldn't ID the terminator until it made a move on her.)
For the sake of efficiency (and to allow Arnie to be both movies), Skynet compromised- it made 10 copies of each "flesh persona", which would then be scattered around to different locations to prevent identification of duplicates. The terminator that was sent back in the first movie was the first of it's type, leaving 9 more just like it in the vault when Skynet was shut down. The human resistance came in, grabbed the next one off of the rack, and programmed it to be John Connor's protector in the second movie. Again, this is all detailed in the T2 novel, as well as in the original script for the movie. (Originally the future war scene at the beginning was supposed to be much longer, with more exposition and featuring a few new pieces of Skynet hardware (glimpses of which can still be seen in the T2 arcade game and pinball machine), but it would've broken the budget of the already very expensive movie.)
Of course, the writers are really under no obligation to keep the story consistent for the third movie, but I certainly hope that they do so.
As a side note, in the novel they DID pull the wrecked arm out of the machinery and melt it down also. I don't recall if that was actually part of the original script or not.
As an additional side note (sorry, I'm obsessive), the full nomenclature of the Arnie/Terminators that we've seen is the Cyberdyne Systems 800 Series Model 101 Version 2.4. (Watch the deleted chip-switching scene from T2 on frame advance when he reboots and you'll see what I mean.) The 800 series refers to the basic endoskeleton type. We know that the 600 series had rubber skin, and that neither the 600 series nor the 700 series was well armored- either could be taken out with a few well-placed shotgun blasts at close range.
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Model 101 is probably just that- the hardware model version (possibly general body type), and v2.4 is most likely a software/firmware version. I don't imagine that Skynet would encode the flesh persona's ID into the BIOS, particularly since a significant percentage of endoskeletons had no flesh at all, and were simply the foot soldiers in Skynet's army.
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OK, I'm off the soap box now. I'm gonna go take my meds.
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When I saw T2, I thought that a nicer tie-in would have been that it was the special FX companies (in addition to the military) that spawned the AI that attacked the humans. This way, by watching the film we're causing it to happen. Shrondinger's cat anyone? ps - by reading this note, what are you causing to happen?
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I read somewhere that the female terminator (who was supposed to be Famke Janssen) is made out of "sentient frequency matter." I guess she can just turn into energy whenever she feels like it, which would explain why she can lob energy balls.
heh, reminds me of when Street Fighter II finally got with the '90s and made Chun-Li able to throw fireballs.
Yeah, it's not like I'm really eager to see Arnie's butt again...
A rolling stone is worth two in the bush!
I want to see Arnold play the role as president.
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Sounds like the old trailer? You seemed to have missed that this takes place around judgement day. Or it at least has lots of scenes from it.
Hmmm... Pie...
Yeah, I know about Dumpster, but the program is very outdated (at least the win 32 version is), today it seems most Quicktimes contain an rmra atom which is the entire file, and also appears to be compressed. And Dumpster doesn't know about it.
Thanks for the suggestion though.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Anyone else notice that the music was the same for LOTR:FOTR trailer?
Jeez...
-Sean
Mplayer actually played it ;D
Now if only the animatrix movies would play. Only the first one does.
You are all fartheads.
apparently a "new generation of the Terminator" has dual front air-bags (hidden behind blond hair) and a good size rear bumper with a crack in the middle. that's why it's more powerful than arnnie. gentlemen, (and ladies) looks like our future is bright.
s/million p/p
> So why did Arnold have to die in the Second film
He was too heavily damaged for repair, and with its objective completed it was assumed to be too great a risk to stay around. Cyberdyne was able to design the T-1000 because it had the T-800 parts from the first movie.
> if they can just keep shipping cyborgs back to past?
Apparently, rebels prevented any time travel that would mess up the continuity.
Why did GEAR crush RDP?
Yeah, I thought about that, but didn't mention it because I wasn't absolutely sure. I quickly glanced at /etc/passwd to see if it reflected the NetInfo database, but alas it did not -- I wasn't about to load up NetInfo Manager just to check the UID though. :^)
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Tool for extracting direct link: debed
Example: xine `debed http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony_pictures/t3-int ernational/largeplayer.html`
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An rmra atom holds pointers ( stored in rmda atoms) to other movies located somewhere else. Typically they are only found in Reference Movies.
Is the file with the rmra atom only a couple of k in size? If so, you probably ended up with a reference movie. Try doing what I described here (or use this handy script) to track down the real movie file.
I don't recall what files it is anymore. But 'fishing' them out of webpages is simple, but as i recall there are files Dumpster can't handle - full movies. Presumably because if you could open the atoms you could tweak the ones that prohibit sound export on some mov's.
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating