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everyone listed claims that they were "wrongly" listed (and maybe you were).
We weren't.
Yes, you WERE.
our firewall blocking incoming emails we got it reconfigured (i.e. someone outside the company). Except once reconfigured it left port 25 wide open
no ones configured the server to not accept relays.
So, due to your own incompetance, you were running an open relay, and someone running list of open relays lists you.
You most certainly WERE listed correctly.
we didn't get informed that we were being listed.
Does your abuse@ and/or postmaster@ email addresses work? Does someone check them?
Who is the RP for your netblock? Is it listed somewhere, or is your ISP's NOC listed as contact? If so, did they recieve notification, and neglect to inform you?
No need to apologize - I love a good MS-bashing rant as much as the next/.'er..:o)
I do, however, feel that it's not as big a problem as you do..
The app and mail client development teams aren't implementing these features because the Microsoft ISP wants to be able to tout the ability to filter spam and block popups.
This may (or may not - although I'm inclined to agree with your views) be true, but the important thing to understand is that the MTA (ISP)-level is where spam blocking belongs.
The real problem with spam is that it steals bandwidth - blocking spam after it's already sitting in your mailbox is like closing the barn door after the horses have eaten your children - the bandwidth has already been used, so you don't gain anything... having your email client "block" spam isn't really blocking it, it's just an automatic "delete key".. which is what the spammers want (how many of them say spam isn't a problem because you can "just hit delete")
MS's intentions aside, the solution they have is the correct one, even if their motives are suspect.
Anyone else reminded of the Simpsons episode..
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Anyone else reminded of the Simpsons ep with the meteroite? (This is from memory, so don't flame me because it's not word-for-word.)
Senator introduces bill to save Springfield, everybody is happy.
Random Senator: "I'd like to add an amendment to that bill to allow funding for the perverted arts!"
Head Senator: "All in favour of the amendment"
Everybody else: "Yay"
Head Senator: "Motion Passed. All in favour of the Save Springfield/Perverted arts Bill"
Everybody else: "Nay"
- cut to Kent Brockman Kent Brockman: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy simply doesn't work."
if you have any NT4.0 boxes in your building samba print servers WILL NOT WORK. there is a nasty bug in NT4.0 that keeps samba from sucessfully letting NT4.0 use the printers.
I have not experienced this.
We have NT 4.0 machines on our network, and they print to our Samba print servers just fine.
Well, pretty much anything that runs in a text console isn't going to be WYSIWYG - last time I checked, a text console won't display different size characters.
WYSIWYG means "What You See Is What You Get" - which pretty much excludes text consoles all together.
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How much did this slashdot post cost you?
Why? It's not relevant to this conversation - unlike spam, it doesn't cost people who don't want to read it.
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What laws is she breaking?
Theft, and trespassing.
how is it different than snail-mailing a bunch of stuff?
Snail-mailing costs the sender 100% of the transaction, and costs the recipient 0%.
Spam costs the recipient more than 99% of the transaction, and costs the sender less than 1%.
If I don't want junk snail-mail, I put a sign on my mailbox stating "no junk mail", and I get no junk mail. I can put the equivalent on my mail server (SMTP greeting), and the spammers simply ignore it.
THAT is how it is different.
It falls under interstate commerce and freedom of speech.
BULLSHIT
"Freedom of speech" guarantees you the right to say whatever you want. It does NOT guarantee you the right to force people to listen, nor does it give you the right to force people to pay you for your opinion (both of which apply to spam.)
Don't send the $5 to me, send it to CAUCE instead, and post proof here.
It is no more "evil" or indicative of lack of values than commercials.
Yes it is. Commercials subsidize the TV infrastructure, and therefore benefits the consumer.
Spam is theft of bandwidth. As a mail server admin, 20% of my bandwidth (even after DNSBL filtering) is spam (ie. I don't want it, and my customers don't want it.) Thererefore spammers are stealing my bandwidth, which costs me money.
Taking something from someone when they don't want you to IS "evil". Trying to claim that it's not is just idiocy.
Now that you know my opinion about that, what good is it?
It gives us an answer to the question, and some insight into the legal system from someone who knows.
Most of the people here aren't lawyers, and as such, we appreciate the insight that comes from a lawyer's opinion.
We know that it doesn't make a difference in the outcome, or the analysis; but we still want to know - which is why that question got submitted to you in the first place.
Was I unclear in my question, or did Mr. Rosen misunderstand it, or did he duck it?
Your question wasn't unclear.
My vote is that he ducked it - like he ducked most of the other questions. He'd have to be a pretty stupid person (which would probably preclude him from being a lawyer) if he misunderstood you.
As a UI designer, I would advise staying well away from LightWave. It has a very non-standard and unintuitive interface that would probably drive you nuts!
Yes, but once you get used to it, it's quite powerful and easy-to-use. (Note, I haven't tried the latest version - I use 5.6 regularly.)
I've used a LOT of 3D apps, and they all have different approaches to UI - but once I got familiar with LW, I found it to be the easiest to navigate.
Some of the best I've seen was done with Blender and Caligari trueSpace
Having tried to actually use Caligari, I can (without a doubt) tell you that it has the absolute WORST UI of any 3D app I've ever used (and I've used about a dozen). How anyone managed to create anything "good" with it is a mystery.
that was the whole purpose of the tariff in the first place. To give back some money to the record labels that were losing money from dubbing of CDs that people would buy otherwise.
5 years down the road they still haven't learned to fit in. They have serious social problems, which all to often lead to other problems with drugs and alcohol (and sex, well, the girls anyway) which only exacerbate the social problems making it even more difficult for them to find/make friends.
Hello,
I was home schooled.
I am 30 years old, have been happily married for 4 years, have a good job, and am well-adjusted. I have a lot of friends, who generally say that I'm an OK guy.
I have never used drugs (I saw what it did to my friends, and decided it wasn't for me), and although I used to be a social drinker (typically wine at parties), I haven't had any since I got engaged (my wife's family has a history of alcoholism, and she asked me to say away from it.)
Yes, these are generalizations, and yet they hold true for every single person I've met who was home schooled.
Maybe you need to reassess your generalisms.. how do you know that all the other people you know who are well-adjusted aren't home schooled? Did you ask everyone, or do you just assume it because they don't fit your prejudiced view?
And what about all the drunkards and drug addicts I know that weren't home schooled? I could argue that it's the school system that caused their problems too!
About the only thing that home schooling lacks is physical education and sports - both of which are tough to do in a home environment, but neither of which cause "damage" if withheld.
The issue is one of social education, which is very hard to get without putting the kid in a school situation.
Bullshit. In case you hadn't noticed, kids are supposed to go to school to learn to read and write, not to socialize.
Social education is a matter of parenting - if your parents are lousy communicators, then you'll get a lousy social education - simply putting someone in a school won't fix that. After school hours and vacation gives kids lots of time to socialize.
That means abstaining from buying their music as well as not downloading it. No sales and no attention will fatally injure these organizations.
I don't think that's what he means..
What he means is:
Last year, the record companies had their best year, but it wasn't as big as they'd hoped, so they blamed P2P, instead of the fact that the economy is in the toilet.
Now, sales will actually fall, so they will use that as "proof" that P2P is hurting their business.
If an investigation into a robbery suspect led to a gun shop, should the gun shop owner be able to phone up the suspect and "Hey--the cops were asking after you."
I don't know about you, but I've never seen anyone hold up a store by pointing a copy of "Crime and Punishment" at them.
When you open a file into an MS Office app, on the other hand, all bets are off. Fonts, margins, colours, line weights, even element positions, are liable to change *undetectably*. If you're using anything other than the *exact* same version that it was originally created in, with the same fonts installed and the same templates on your machine, it's even worse.
You're almost 100% correct.
You forgot printer.. if you have a different printer than the original creators (or, if you *are* the original creator, and change printers) the document changes, without notifying you.
The head of the Emacs Flame War Re-enactment Society (a group that re-enacts the great Usenet emacs versus vi flames wars of the 20th Century) said, "Red Hat is destroying our cultural heritage!
Ahh.. I know guys who belong to war re-enactment societies.. and this about sums them up..
knowing who to support is more effective than knowing who to trash
This is a very salient point, that (happily) some people in power are beginning to understand, but people in the media appear to have a hard time grasping.. On a US TV station, I recently saw a debate between two politicians, and one of the questions posed was "why aren't you smearing your opponent" - the moderator repeatedly pushed this, and seemed not to be able to understand the answers the candidates gave (which boiled down to "I want to win - mud throwing detracts from the issues at hand.)
That being said, can anyone come up with a list of "good guys", besides Rick Boucher and Zoe Lofgren?
, as well as many other countries, already do, albeit in a different industry
No, acutally it's pretty different.
If you don't insure your car, you're not allowed to drive on public roads. Yes, a third party makes money, but they actually perform a service (and, as others have pointed out, you're wrong in the fact that you can't escape it.)
Now, if the government mandated which insurance company you had to use, or took a percentage of the profits from other insurance companies and gave it to their preferred one, then there might be some sort of similarity..
As soon as that happens, come back and post a response.
I didn't say it would be easy. You would have to access the raw TCP packet, before the OS has done anything with it.
So what you're saying is that you'd just have to re-write the entire TCP stack? And what happens when an regular application tries to connect on TCP/80?
Why not just use GRE or ESP? You know, something that was designed to do what you're talking about? (Or even create a new protocol.)
I do know what I'm talking about.
I would find it easier to 'trust you' about that if you showed some knowledge of other protocols, not just TCP. As it is, I'd concur with the previous poster - you have enough knowledge to be dangerous.
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everyone listed claims that they were "wrongly" listed (and maybe you were).
We weren't.
Yes, you WERE.
our firewall blocking incoming emails we got it reconfigured (i.e. someone outside the company). Except once reconfigured it left port 25 wide open
no ones configured the server to not accept relays.
So, due to your own incompetance, you were running an open relay, and someone running list of open relays lists you.
You most certainly WERE listed correctly.
we didn't get informed that we were being listed.
Does your abuse@ and/or postmaster@ email addresses work? Does someone check them?
Who is the RP for your netblock? Is it listed somewhere, or is your ISP's NOC listed as contact? If so, did they recieve notification, and neglect to inform you?
Most of the "other" webservers are Roxen server which was open-sourced recently.
Recently? Roxen (and Caudium, which was forked from it a couple of years ago) has always been released under the GPL.
I'll stick to vinyl
:o)
Most people will stick to vinyl.. which is why you don't find vinyl upholstery in nudist colonies
Sorry if this comes off as a MS-bashing rant.
/.'er.. :o)
No need to apologize - I love a good MS-bashing rant as much as the next
I do, however, feel that it's not as big a problem as you do..
The app and mail client development teams aren't implementing these features because the Microsoft ISP wants to be able to tout the ability to filter spam and block popups.
This may (or may not - although I'm inclined to agree with your views) be true, but the important thing to understand is that the MTA (ISP)-level is where spam blocking belongs.
The real problem with spam is that it steals bandwidth - blocking spam after it's already sitting in your mailbox is like closing the barn door after the horses have eaten your children - the bandwidth has already been used, so you don't gain anything... having your email client "block" spam isn't really blocking it, it's just an automatic "delete key".. which is what the spammers want (how many of them say spam isn't a problem because you can "just hit delete")
MS's intentions aside, the solution they have is the correct one, even if their motives are suspect.
Anyone else reminded of the Simpsons ep with the meteroite? (This is from memory, so don't flame me because it's not word-for-word.)
Senator introduces bill to save Springfield, everybody is happy.
Random Senator: "I'd like to add an amendment to that bill to allow funding for the perverted arts!"
Head Senator: "All in favour of the amendment"
Everybody else: "Yay"
Head Senator: "Motion Passed. All in favour of the Save Springfield/Perverted arts Bill"
Everybody else: "Nay"
- cut to Kent Brockman
Kent Brockman: "I've said it before, and I'll say it again, democracy simply doesn't work."
if you have any NT4.0 boxes in your building samba print servers WILL NOT WORK. there is a nasty bug in NT4.0 that keeps samba from sucessfully letting NT4.0 use the printers.
I have not experienced this.
We have NT 4.0 machines on our network, and they print to our Samba print servers just fine.
Perhaps it's your configuration?
when did pico become a WYSIWYG word-processor?
Well, pretty much anything that runs in a text console isn't going to be WYSIWYG - last time I checked, a text console won't display different size characters.
WYSIWYG means "What You See Is What You Get" - which pretty much excludes text consoles all together.
How much did this slashdot post cost you?
Why? It's not relevant to this conversation - unlike spam, it doesn't cost people who don't want to read it.
What laws is she breaking?
Theft, and trespassing.
how is it different than snail-mailing a bunch of stuff?
Snail-mailing costs the sender 100% of the transaction, and costs the recipient 0%.
Spam costs the recipient more than 99% of the transaction, and costs the sender less than 1%.
If I don't want junk snail-mail, I put a sign on my mailbox stating "no junk mail", and I get no junk mail. I can put the equivalent on my mail server (SMTP greeting), and the spammers simply ignore it.
THAT is how it is different.
It falls under interstate commerce and freedom of speech.
BULLSHIT
"Freedom of speech" guarantees you the right to say whatever you want. It does NOT guarantee you the right to force people to listen, nor does it give you the right to force people to pay you for your opinion (both of which apply to spam.)
Don't send the $5 to me, send it to CAUCE instead, and post proof here.
It is no more "evil" or indicative of lack of values than commercials.
Yes it is. Commercials subsidize the TV infrastructure, and therefore benefits the consumer.
Spam is theft of bandwidth. As a mail server admin, 20% of my bandwidth (even after DNSBL filtering) is spam (ie. I don't want it, and my customers don't want it.) Thererefore spammers are stealing my bandwidth, which costs me money.
Taking something from someone when they don't want you to IS "evil". Trying to claim that it's not is just idiocy.
Now that you know my opinion about that, what good is it?
It gives us an answer to the question, and some insight into the legal system from someone who knows.
Most of the people here aren't lawyers, and as such, we appreciate the insight that comes from a lawyer's opinion.
We know that it doesn't make a difference in the outcome, or the analysis; but we still want to know - which is why that question got submitted to you in the first place.
Was I unclear in my question, or did Mr. Rosen misunderstand it, or did he duck it?
Your question wasn't unclear.
My vote is that he ducked it - like he ducked most of the other questions. He'd have to be a pretty stupid person (which would probably preclude him from being a lawyer) if he misunderstood you.
As a UI designer, I would advise staying well away from LightWave. It has a very non-standard and unintuitive interface that would probably drive you nuts!
Yes, but once you get used to it, it's quite powerful and easy-to-use. (Note, I haven't tried the latest version - I use 5.6 regularly.)
I've used a LOT of 3D apps, and they all have different approaches to UI - but once I got familiar with LW, I found it to be the easiest to navigate.
Some of the best I've seen was done with Blender and Caligari trueSpace
Having tried to actually use Caligari, I can (without a doubt) tell you that it has the absolute WORST UI of any 3D app I've ever used (and I've used about a dozen). How anyone managed to create anything "good" with it is a mystery.
Lightwave is very easy to learn, has a very good modeler (for polygons and subdivision surfaces; no NURBS though)
sorry, but Lightwave has had NURBS since 5.0 (maybe earlier, I forget). To use it, go into Modeler, make a box, hit TAB.
Unless you're implying that they removed it in later versions?
that was the whole purpose of the tariff in the first place. To give back some money to the record labels that were losing money from dubbing of CDs that people would buy otherwise.
Funny thing about that levy - same thing happened to it that happens to most money that gets sent to the government: none of it has gone to the people it was supposed to.
5 years down the road they still haven't learned to fit in. They have serious social problems, which all to often lead to other problems with drugs and alcohol (and sex, well, the girls anyway) which only exacerbate the social problems making it even more difficult for them to find/make friends.
Hello,
I was home schooled.
I am 30 years old, have been happily married for 4 years, have a good job, and am well-adjusted. I have a lot of friends, who generally say that I'm an OK guy.
I have never used drugs (I saw what it did to my friends, and decided it wasn't for me), and although I used to be a social drinker (typically wine at parties), I haven't had any since I got engaged (my wife's family has a history of alcoholism, and she asked me to say away from it.)
Yes, these are generalizations, and yet they hold true for every single person I've met who was home schooled.
Maybe you need to reassess your generalisms.. how do you know that all the other people you know who are well-adjusted aren't home schooled? Did you ask everyone, or do you just assume it because they don't fit your prejudiced view?
And what about all the drunkards and drug addicts I know that weren't home schooled? I could argue that it's the school system that caused their problems too!
About the only thing that home schooling lacks is physical education and sports - both of which are tough to do in a home environment, but neither of which cause "damage" if withheld.
The issue is one of social education, which is very hard to get without putting the kid in a school situation.
Bullshit. In case you hadn't noticed, kids are supposed to go to school to learn to read and write, not to socialize.
Social education is a matter of parenting - if your parents are lousy communicators, then you'll get a lousy social education - simply putting someone in a school won't fix that. After school hours and vacation gives kids lots of time to socialize.
That means abstaining from buying their music as well as not downloading it. No sales and no attention will fatally injure these organizations.
I don't think that's what he means..
What he means is:
Last year, the record companies had their best year, but it wasn't as big as they'd hoped, so they blamed P2P, instead of the fact that the economy is in the toilet.
Now, sales will actually fall, so they will use that as "proof" that P2P is hurting their business.
At least that's how I understood his statement.
Shouldn't it be the "Linii tree"?
:o)
Only if there are two of him.
If an investigation into a robbery suspect led to a gun shop, should the gun shop owner be able to phone up the suspect and "Hey--the cops were asking after you."
I don't know about you, but I've never seen anyone hold up a store by pointing a copy of "Crime and Punishment" at them.
When you open a file into an MS Office app, on the other hand, all bets are off. Fonts, margins, colours, line weights, even element positions, are liable to change *undetectably*. If you're using anything other than the *exact* same version that it was originally created in, with the same fonts installed and the same templates on your machine, it's even worse.
You're almost 100% correct.
You forgot printer.. if you have a different printer than the original creators (or, if you *are* the original creator, and change printers) the document changes, without notifying you.
This bit had me rolling on the floor..
The head of the Emacs Flame War Re-enactment Society (a group that re-enacts the great Usenet emacs versus vi flames wars of the 20th Century) said, "Red Hat is destroying our cultural heritage!
Ahh.. I know guys who belong to war re-enactment societies.. and this about sums them up..
knowing who to support is more effective than knowing who to trash
.. On a US TV station, I recently saw a debate between two politicians, and one of the questions posed was "why aren't you smearing your opponent" - the moderator repeatedly pushed this, and seemed not to be able to understand the answers the candidates gave (which boiled down to "I want to win - mud throwing detracts from the issues at hand.)
This is a very salient point, that (happily) some people in power are beginning to understand, but people in the media appear to have a hard time grasping
That being said, can anyone come up with a list of "good guys", besides Rick Boucher and Zoe Lofgren?
, as well as many other countries, already do, albeit in a different industry
No, acutally it's pretty different.
If you don't insure your car, you're not allowed to drive on public roads. Yes, a third party makes money, but they actually perform a service (and, as others have pointed out, you're wrong in the fact that you can't escape it.)
Now, if the government mandated which insurance company you had to use, or took a percentage of the profits from other insurance companies and gave it to their preferred one, then there might be some sort of similarity..
As soon as that happens, come back and post a response.
Re-invent the wheel much?
I didn't say it would be easy. You would have to access the raw TCP packet, before the OS has done anything with it.
So what you're saying is that you'd just have to re-write the entire TCP stack? And what happens when an regular application tries to connect on TCP/80?
Why not just use GRE or ESP? You know, something that was designed to do what you're talking about? (Or even create a new protocol.)
I do know what I'm talking about.
I would find it easier to 'trust you' about that if you showed some knowledge of other protocols, not just TCP. As it is, I'd concur with the previous poster - you have enough knowledge to be dangerous.