any security at all, even if very easily circumvented, is better than no security
However, *bad* security (such as your ROT-13 example) is worse than no security at all, because it leads you to believe you're actually doing something, when in fact you're not.
If you implement something that doesn't actually do anything, you've wasted time. If it doesn't do anything, why did you implement it?
Because you've convinced yourself that it does do something, and the fact that it doesn't means that you've lulled yourself into a false sense of security.
If someone is not a citizen of the US, it does not seem to be unreasonable for the US to be able to track them [...] we have crazy dudes that want to fly airplanes into buildings
Tell me - how exactly does having someones fingerprint prevent them from flying airplanes into buildings?
What would be your reaction to the President saying "Well, 3000 people died - but at least we have the hijackers' fingerprints on file now!"
from the reaction I am guessing you are from the US
Your guess is incorrect. I am Canadian.
My reaction was a knee-jerk to the assumption that "everyone" should give their government fingerprints. What amazes me is that there seem to be a lot of Americans here who believe that such an thing is reasonable, rather than being evidence of a police state.
WTF why do I have to give a fingerprint to [their] governement every time I have to travel in the US?
At anything less than 1024x768, you have to horizontal scroll, and at anything larger, the icons seem "detached" from the articles - there is way too much whitespace around them.
Wrong, it has *EVERYTHING* to do with fair use, as evidenced by the letter from Apple:
The Service Source manual for the MacBook Pro is Apple's intellectual property and is protected by U.S. copyright law. Linking to the manual on your website is an infringement of Apple's copyrights. We therefore must insist that you immediately take all necessary steps to remove the Service Source manual and any other Apple copyrighted material from your site and to prevent further unauthorized use or distribution of Apple intellectual property.
By playing the copyright card, Apple themselves are making this about copyright, and thus (by definition) fair use is a factor.
Note that NOWHERE in the letter that Apple sent, do they mention trade secrets (which is what you believe is going on here.)
The only exception would be, for instance, if it turned out that this is not the actual service manual that is used in the field. Then it is misinformation and the company has a right to not be falsely represented in the media.
But then it wouldn't be copyright infringement, it would be libel.
It takes a hell of a sportscar to give the same feeling of connectedness and involvment with what the machine is doing.
In a car you're always in a compartment, and because you're used to it you don't realize that through that car window everything you see is just more TV. You're a passive observer and it is all moving by you boringly in a frame.
On a cycle the frame is gone. You're completely in contact with it all. You're in the scene, not just watching it anymore, and the sense of presence is overwhelming [...] the whole thing, the whole experience, is never removed from immediate consciousness.
-- Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
Slashdot Mirror
Oh, he's still at it. You wouldn't expect a real net.kook to accept reality so easily, would you?
I think it's more a case of the pot calling the (chrome) toaster black.
No, they haven't - at least not unless you have some other information you're not sharing.
From the Google site:
From the Yahoo link you provided:
So, how is this the same thing?
Just use the object element. It is designed, according to the specification, to do every single bit of that.
Well that's all fine and dandy, except that how it's designed isn't actually how it's implemented.
Personally, if they don't have the plugin installed, I'd prefer visitors to my sites not be greeted with an install dialog asking them to install it.
For people who work with projects in the real world, the object element falls woefully short.
And you can even use this method to substitute alternate content if Flash isn't installed.
I've used it to make 100% valid pages, and it works very well.
any security at all, even if very easily circumvented, is better than no security
However, *bad* security (such as your ROT-13 example) is worse than no security at all, because it leads you to believe you're actually doing something, when in fact you're not.
If you implement something that doesn't actually do anything, you've wasted time. If it doesn't do anything, why did you implement it?
Because you've convinced yourself that it does do something, and the fact that it doesn't means that you've lulled yourself into a false sense of security.
Some people are really, really into keeping time.
:o)
Yeah, it's called OCD.
etc if that is what you took from my comment. That was a serious spin job
Translation: "I can't refute your comments."
a lot of crap happens in the world and it is not wise to let foreigners run around anonymously
s/foreigners/people/g
I hope you enjoy your life under fascist rule.
if there was an authoritarian government who was hell bent on crushing people who think out of line
IF?!?!?!
If someone is not a citizen of the US, it does not seem to be unreasonable for the US to be able to track them [...] we have crazy dudes that want to fly airplanes into buildings
Tell me - how exactly does having someones fingerprint prevent them from flying airplanes into buildings?
What would be your reaction to the President saying "Well, 3000 people died - but at least we have the hijackers' fingerprints on file now!"
from the reaction I am guessing you are from the US
Your guess is incorrect. I am Canadian.
My reaction was a knee-jerk to the assumption that "everyone" should give their government fingerprints. What amazes me is that there seem to be a lot of Americans here who believe that such an thing is reasonable, rather than being evidence of a police state.
WTF why do I have to give a fingerprint to [their] governement every time I have to travel in the US?
You are entirely correct in your outrage.
... can be summed up as "nobody really needs to be considered innocent until proven guilty"?
is a blood sample like a fingerprint, something that everyone should provide to their government?
Why the fsck should *everyone* provide fingerprints to their government?
It doesn't resize very well.
At anything less than 1024x768, you have to horizontal scroll, and at anything larger, the icons seem "detached" from the articles - there is way too much whitespace around them.
I'm waiting for my ISP (currently, BellSouth) to do this.
Don't wait for it, let them know beforehand.
Tell them *WHY* you think that double-dipping is wrong.
'Trade Secret' laws are fun.
You misspelled "irrelevant."
If I'm in possesion of "illegal information", f.x. information released by somebody else breaking their non-disclure contract
The thing is that this isn't about trade secrets. If it was about trade secrets, wouldn't Apple have mentioned that in the letter they sent?
where is the link to the letter that Apple sent?
Right here.
From your link:
A type of state law, modeled after an old English law, that requires certain types of contracts to be in writing.
Sorry, how did SomethingAwful (or the person who posted the snippet) violate that?
a cool function that works can be better than sex.
My god. Who are you sleeping with, and how bad in bed are they?!!?!?!?!
You didn't answer the question. Breaking a contract != breaking contract law.
Again, which law was broken? (It would be helpful if you provided US Title and Section.)
Wrong, it has *EVERYTHING* to do with fair use, as evidenced by the letter from Apple:
By playing the copyright card, Apple themselves are making this about copyright, and thus (by definition) fair use is a factor.
Note that NOWHERE in the letter that Apple sent, do they mention trade secrets (which is what you believe is going on here.)
The only exception would be, for instance, if it turned out that this is not the actual service manual that is used in the field. Then it is misinformation and the company has a right to not be falsely represented in the media.
But then it wouldn't be copyright infringement, it would be libel.
-- Robert M. Pirsig, Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance
I'll throw down with Quasar.
It has a few more features than you're looking for, but it does inventory tracking pretty well.
It's also GPL'ed.
What about blind people using a screen reader? (and thus having images turned off.)