Kmail and Kontact are not being held to a high standard when it comes to stability.
Hmm, I know about Kmail, but I've never used Kontact... maybe the KDE guys are just trying to make all those Outlook users feel more at home!/me ducks:o)
Anecdotal evidence only, but it's about the same as was offered in return.
Ahh, so according to you, any unfounded assertion is true until proven false by hard evidence?
OK then, your mother is a prostitute.
Unless you can provide hard evidence to the contrary, your own logic states that she's a whore, and you must therefore admit it, or prove that your logic is inconsistent. And remember, anecdotal evidence doesn't count!
I used to own a Japanese-made car. In order to lock the doors, you had to lock it, then hold the handle up while you closed the door. If you didn't hold the handle up, the door would become unlocked.
The idea behind this was to make it harder for people to lock their keys in their car. My girlfriend locked the keys in the car four times.
Of course, all the manufacturers did was train people to hold the handle up when they closed the door, whether the keys were inside the car or not.
Anything you add to make it "harder" for someone to do the wrong thing will simply train them how to do the wrong thing in a different way.
I run ReiserFS on my laptop right now. I hibernate (suspend to disk, suspend to ram) several times per day. The battery is flaky, and I experience unclean shutdowns (both from suspend-to-ram and just plain power-offs while in use) approximately once per week.
Never had a problem with ReiserFS. It's rock solid.
filesystem - ext3 and reiserfs can get into inconsistent unrecoverable state, pure and simple.
I suppose you have links supporting this claim, right? I've been using both for many years (on dozens of high-use machines), and haven't seen anything remotely like that. If it's truly so "pure and simple", then you must have some evidence. I'd appreciate it if you presented it here.
startup scripts easier to understand in BSD, getting pretty hairy in some Linux distros.
This is neither symptomatic of Linux of BSD, but rather of the distributions. I personally find Slackware's startup to be superior to both BSD's and all other Linux distros I've tried.
More Enterprise software available (and supported) on Linux
Considering that pretty much any (every?) piece of software compiled for Linux can be run under FreeBSD with little hassle, I'd like to know how you can claim this with a straight face.
So you're saying that only MS is capable of competing with google? Yahoo, AOL, none of the other big companies has any idea how to make search engines, or maps, or anything else?
There are more than *TWO* companies on the face of the planet, you know.
Considering that MS views google as a competitor, I think that would cause MS to never support translucent PNGs, and launch a similar feature on MSN that works with IE.
While I agree that logs should be rotated frequently (mine get rotated hourly,) that doesn't really address the issue (if it in fact exists - I wouldn't know.) If the server stops responding when the log reaches a given size, then it's broken and needs to be fixed.
operative is called to testify (which you cannot do anonymously) operative, which was previously VERY useful is now USELESS. Assuming they have enough evidence without the operative is just that, an assumption.
So you're defending the assumption that the state's desire to keep secrets trumps an individual's right to a fair trial.
Congratulations, you have officialy endorsed fascism.
I remember when I got my first modem for me C64 - a 300 baud manual-dial manual-answer... I visited a number of local BBS'es before stumbling upon one running Color-64... the first time I saw the login screen in/color/, I thought I was in heaven.
It wasn't long before I bought a 1200 bps (which was blazing fast at the time) and started my own BBS.
There is a difference between selling something and *lying* about it.
Only bad salesmen try to sell something by saying negative things about their competition; and only bad salesmen with bad products try to sell them by lying about their competition.
One of the golden rules of sale is if you're #1, you never mention your competition at all. If you're directly asked about it, you say "well, it's OK, but here's why we're better..."
That's how this game is played.
No, that's how the game is played if you don't have the best product.
This is MS conceding that they don't have the best product.
I've been programming for 18 years and just got into a PhD program in CS, and I still can't reliably get a wifi card to behave under Linux.
Which has exactly *WHAT* to do with the topic at hand? I believe we were discussing the ease of use of the GUIs, not the difficulty of getting non-manufacturer-supported hardware to work.
Nice troll though, seems you hooked a few clueless moderators.
There's really nothing innovative today that Linux does that we can't do.
If by "we" he means Microsoft, then the response is "well duh" (after all, they *do* have the source code.)
But the obvious response is "then why don't you?"
I use Linux machines as routers for a local school district. A couple of weeks ago, the HD in one of them died - and nobody noticed (well, I noticed when the nightly backup didn't happen.) This machine was doing packet filtering, traffic shaping, and policy routing (iproute2 rocks!:o) And when the HD died, the machine kept on ticking. This isn't the first time I'd experienced it, so I recommended to them that they not panic and deal with it during the regular maintenance period (on the weekend.) It kept happily running until I powered it off to replace the drive. I've no doubt that it would have continued to run until the power ran out (which would have been a long time, as it was on a big honking UPS.)
Let's see Windows do traffic shaping. Let's see Windows do policy routing. Then let's see it keep running when you rip out the hard drive.
when they get pregnant, they choose not to have an abortion
I hope that you remember this post when your birth control fails and your wife becomes pregnant.
My wife has had an abortion (before we met) - it nearly destroyed her. It's not something I would wish on *anybody*. Not a day goes by that she doesn't regret it.
Abortion is *NOT* a simple matter, and is *NOT* to be taken lightly - the fact that you do makes me believe that it's a good thing you don't want children; it would be a crime to pass your beliefs down to someone.
No, it's not. It's only nonsensical because you want it to be (which, I assume, is because you don't have a good retort which backs up your position.)
a person who never existed doesn't know they don't exist
Which is beside the point. I didn't ask him to ask someone who didn't exist - I told him to ask someone who *DOES* exist. You do realize that you *can* ask someone who exists whether or not they'd be happier if they were never born, right? And they can answer?
I've never known my father; he's never seen me, although he's probably still alive, and he knows I exist. For all practical intents and purposes, he died before I was born.
When my mother told my father that she was pregnant, he gave her some money and told her to get an abortion. She gave the money back, and told him to go to hell. They never spoke after that.
Like me, Sarah Doohan will grow up without a father - but at least she had the opportunity to know him for a few years first. As you say, I'm sure she's glad to be here, even if her father isn't.
I remember Scotty explaining to LaForge one day that his secret was to always exaggerate the time it takes to do something by a factor of eight.
Not quite - the actual conversation went as follows:
Scott: "Do you mind a little advice? Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now, and they want it their way. But the secret is to give only what they need, not what they want!" LaForge: "Yeah, well I told the captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour." Scott: "How long would it really take?" LaForge: "An hour!" Scott: "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would *really* take, did you?" LaForge: "Well of course I did." Scott: "Oh, laddie, you've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker!"
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Kmail and Kontact are not being held to a high standard when it comes to stability.
/me ducks :o)
Hmm, I know about Kmail, but I've never used Kontact... maybe the KDE guys are just trying to make all those Outlook users feel more at home!
You can only generate so much ill will before the karma wheel falls off the axle and crushes your ass.
:o)
I guess you didn't RTFA, but it wasn't his ass that was crushed.
Anecdotal evidence only, but it's about the same as was offered in return.
Ahh, so according to you, any unfounded assertion is true until proven false by hard evidence?
OK then, your mother is a prostitute.
Unless you can provide hard evidence to the contrary, your own logic states that she's a whore, and you must therefore admit it, or prove that your logic is inconsistent. And remember, anecdotal evidence doesn't count!
I used to own a Japanese-made car. In order to lock the doors, you had to lock it, then hold the handle up while you closed the door. If you didn't hold the handle up, the door would become unlocked.
The idea behind this was to make it harder for people to lock their keys in their car. My girlfriend locked the keys in the car four times.
Of course, all the manufacturers did was train people to hold the handle up when they closed the door, whether the keys were inside the car or not.
Anything you add to make it "harder" for someone to do the wrong thing will simply train them how to do the wrong thing in a different way.
I run ReiserFS on my laptop right now. I hibernate (suspend to disk, suspend to ram) several times per day. The battery is flaky, and I experience unclean shutdowns (both from suspend-to-ram and just plain power-offs while in use) approximately once per week.
Never had a problem with ReiserFS. It's rock solid.
filesystem - ext3 and reiserfs can get into inconsistent unrecoverable state, pure and simple.
I suppose you have links supporting this claim, right? I've been using both for many years (on dozens of high-use machines), and haven't seen anything remotely like that. If it's truly so "pure and simple", then you must have some evidence. I'd appreciate it if you presented it here.
startup scripts easier to understand in BSD, getting pretty hairy in some Linux distros.
This is neither symptomatic of Linux of BSD, but rather of the distributions. I personally find Slackware's startup to be superior to both BSD's and all other Linux distros I've tried.
More Enterprise software available (and supported) on Linux
Considering that pretty much any (every?) piece of software compiled for Linux can be run under FreeBSD with little hassle, I'd like to know how you can claim this with a straight face.
So you're saying that only MS is capable of competing with google? Yahoo, AOL, none of the other big companies has any idea how to make search engines, or maps, or anything else?
There are more than *TWO* companies on the face of the planet, you know.
Considering that MS views google as a competitor, I think that would cause MS to never support translucent PNGs, and launch a similar feature on MSN that works with IE.
While I agree that logs should be rotated frequently (mine get rotated hourly,) that doesn't really address the issue (if it in fact exists - I wouldn't know.) If the server stops responding when the log reaches a given size, then it's broken and needs to be fixed.
I realize he was making a joke, however the joke isn't remotely funny, because he's making fun of a sentence that someone *didn't* write.
The fact that he doesn't know the difference between "on" and "by", now that's funny.
MUMPS was developed by a MD (patholigist IIRC)
:o)
Well, that makes sense - it certainly is pathological.
operative is called to testify (which you cannot do anonymously) operative, which was previously VERY useful is now USELESS. Assuming they have enough evidence without the operative is just that, an assumption.
So you're defending the assumption that the state's desire to keep secrets trumps an individual's right to a fair trial.
Congratulations, you have officialy endorsed fascism.
I remember when I got my first modem for me C64 - a 300 baud manual-dial manual-answer... I visited a number of local BBS'es before stumbling upon one running Color-64... the first time I saw the login screen in /color/, I thought I was in heaven.
It wasn't long before I bought a 1200 bps (which was blazing fast at the time) and started my own BBS.
There is a difference between selling something and *lying* about it.
Only bad salesmen try to sell something by saying negative things about their competition; and only bad salesmen with bad products try to sell them by lying about their competition.
One of the golden rules of sale is if you're #1, you never mention your competition at all. If you're directly asked about it, you say "well, it's OK, but here's why we're better..."
That's how this game is played.
No, that's how the game is played if you don't have the best product.
This is MS conceding that they don't have the best product.
I fail to see how this is a fallacy.
It's easy to use if you know how to use it.
Which is entirely true.
And it's just as true for Windows and Mac.
I've been programming for 18 years and just got into a PhD program in CS, and I still can't reliably get a wifi card to behave under Linux.
Which has exactly *WHAT* to do with the topic at hand? I believe we were discussing the ease of use of the GUIs, not the difficulty of getting non-manufacturer-supported hardware to work.
Nice troll though, seems you hooked a few clueless moderators.
Have you actually run a 2.6 kernel on a P75?
Yes - 2.6.12, and it works pretty damn well.
This is more like the pot calling the silverware black.
"What you mean 'WE', Kemosabe?"
:o) And when the HD died, the machine kept on ticking. This isn't the first time I'd experienced it, so I recommended to them that they not panic and deal with it during the regular maintenance period (on the weekend.) It kept happily running until I powered it off to replace the drive. I've no doubt that it would have continued to run until the power ran out (which would have been a long time, as it was on a big honking UPS.)
There's really nothing innovative today that Linux does that we can't do.
If by "we" he means Microsoft, then the response is "well duh" (after all, they *do* have the source code.)
But the obvious response is "then why don't you?"
I use Linux machines as routers for a local school district. A couple of weeks ago, the HD in one of them died - and nobody noticed (well, I noticed when the nightly backup didn't happen.) This machine was doing packet filtering, traffic shaping, and policy routing (iproute2 rocks!
Let's see Windows do traffic shaping.
Let's see Windows do policy routing.
Then let's see it keep running when you rip out the hard drive.
when they get pregnant, they choose not to have an abortion
I hope that you remember this post when your birth control fails and your wife becomes pregnant.
My wife has had an abortion (before we met) - it nearly destroyed her. It's not something I would wish on *anybody*. Not a day goes by that she doesn't regret it.
Abortion is *NOT* a simple matter, and is *NOT* to be taken lightly - the fact that you do makes me believe that it's a good thing you don't want children; it would be a crime to pass your beliefs down to someone.
That's an utterly nonsensical question
No, it's not. It's only nonsensical because you want it to be (which, I assume, is because you don't have a good retort which backs up your position.)
a person who never existed doesn't know they don't exist
Which is beside the point. I didn't ask him to ask someone who didn't exist - I told him to ask someone who *DOES* exist. You do realize that you *can* ask someone who exists whether or not they'd be happier if they were never born, right? And they can answer?
This girl will grow up without a father.
Which isn't the worst thing in the world. And yes, I know from experience. How about you?
Before you judge the outcome of this, why don't you wait 15 years and ask his daughter whether or not she'd rather not have been born at all?
I've never known my father; he's never seen me, although he's probably still alive, and he knows I exist. For all practical intents and purposes, he died before I was born.
When my mother told my father that she was pregnant, he gave her some money and told her to get an abortion. She gave the money back, and told him to go to hell. They never spoke after that.
Like me, Sarah Doohan will grow up without a father - but at least she had the opportunity to know him for a few years first. As you say, I'm sure she's glad to be here, even if her father isn't.
/me is going to pour some 21 year old Glenlivet on the ground tonight.
:o)
Me too.
But I'm gonna drink it first.
I remember Scotty explaining to LaForge one day that his secret was to always exaggerate the time it takes to do something by a factor of eight.
Not quite - the actual conversation went as follows:
Scott: "Do you mind a little advice? Starfleet captains are like children. They want everything right now, and they want it their way. But the secret is to give only what they need, not what they want!"
LaForge: "Yeah, well I told the captain I'd have this analysis done in an hour."
Scott: "How long would it really take?"
LaForge: "An hour!"
Scott: "Oh, you didn't tell him how long it would *really* take, did you?"
LaForge: "Well of course I did."
Scott: "Oh, laddie, you've got a lot to learn if you want people to think of you as a miracle worker!"
So you're saying that Google signed a non-compete with MS? I have a hard time believing that.