No I didn't read the article, I responded to the claim of unreasonable search, which it isn't. Now the part about cataloging and indexing, that is scary. Government shouldn't be tracking me unless exigent circumstances exist. Of course in this day and age, exigent seems to be pretty liberal.
So police looking at license plates is unreasonable search? I don't think so, it is a publicly viewable item. They are not taking extraorindary steps to view the license plate. It isn't hidden behind your closed drapes in your house, it is in full view on the road. I see nothing wrong with this as long as only license plates matching stolen vehicles or cars registered to felons with warrants for their arrest are logged and cataloged. I see absolutely no problem with that at all.
And also, they use QT because they like it's C++ API and they also believe KDevelop is the best IDE under Linux. These guys aren't UNIX/Linux geeks, they just work with what their customers ask for and use the tools they find to be the best after much testing.
I have a buddy in the oil and gas industry, he has a small geophysics firm. The firm writes software and their customers have eschewed Windows, they don't want windows server/client components anymore, they want Linux. It used to be that they got quite a bit of requests for Linux and Windows but nobody is asking for Windows anymore. Nine times out of ten the customers want the software available as an RPM for RHEL. They also test on CentOS and Fedora but the vast majority of their customers want it to work on RHEL. I found it very interesting when I discussed it with him.
It sounds retaliatory. Seriously, Apple doesn't like things to be pre-announced and I'm sure that they had a contingency in place just in case of such things.
I didn't comment on the quality of Windows. I was referring to the slew of stories about Vista currently and all the faux geeks getting their panties in a wad... oh Office 2k7 isn't getting used by somebody... oh RAM that was supposed to go to Vista isn't getting sold.... I've been using Linux since 1.2.13 and the Mac OS since the Original Mac came out so I don't need lessons on them. Microsoft provides a product that works well for a lot of the population, if it didn't, they wouldn't have their position and I know about the Anti-trust suit etc etc ad nausem... Look at it this way, RAM will drop if supply stays high, just like it did in 95/96. Hell, I remember how happy I was when I maxed out my 486DX/33 at 36 megs for under $100. It mad all my operating systems run crazy fast. OS/2 felt like it was the future.
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I brought my C-64 to school in 1988 and made all the Apple Machines look stupid. Now when I went to College I fell in love with the Mac but always though the Apple II line got too much attention.
Do people that believe as you do acknowledge that religion existed before the bible was written and the texts the compose the bible were not the first religious texts written by man?
You said a router provided a mapping of one to many ip addresses, a router doesn't do that. You think PBX is an everyday term? I don't believe in one true way, you do. After all, you and your friends are the key holders to what is good coffee and what is a good analogy among many other things I'm sure. You still doing tech support?
The market determines what is available. Remember Loki Games? Remember VA Linux? There are providers offering laptops right now with Linux installed and they have been doing it in the pas as well. Let me guess, past failures are because they don't know how to market to you or the millions you believe that are ready to pounce right?
Back when Acrobat came out for OS/2 there was a lot of downloads in the first few days, Adobe actually took note, and then they fell to nothing quickly. The OS/2 users were ecstatic in the first few days, look at all of us, then the momentum couldn't be kept up. There is what we want to believe and what is real.
I don't like Windows as a primary OS but I use it for what I need to use it for. I have used and installed many different operating systems on many different hardware platforms. My mind is very open, I'm just not in to wishful thinking. So are you going to start working towards making Linux more useful for the mainstream market?
I think those able and willing to fix Linux's deficiencies in the DVD realm should post to this thread with what their contribution to solving the problem will be.
I work for a very small company, eight people. I am a jack of all trades including tech support because when you are that small you have to. I dumb things down all the time for people, so I don't need a lecture from you. Your protests belie your claims and your analogy was a poor one and incorrect.
Your router implements a service called NAT which allows one address to be shared among many computers. You can have one Internet Address and have multiple computers connected to the Internet through the router.
See that is nice and easy and not a wrong statement and didn't bring up a PBX which the user may not even know about. So are you arguing that you have to make incorrect statements to be non-technical?
My mom is the average user. I appoint you to support everyone that you think can easily replace Windows with Linux. Your vision is myopic. The number of people that want Linux on their laptop is small, the market supports my view.
People that are more than consumers of computer technology have different reasons for what they do. Tell me, have you ever listened to somebody talk about something like cars or a sport that you didn't really have more than a fleeting interest in? How many people could even open the hood of their car and name anything besides pointing out the engine? Do you watch a sport but not care about the politics or history of it? My wife could give a flip about what I went through to find a cardbus nic that I could use kismet with or why I find this to be a problem. She is a Mac user but I couldn't explain to her by I like the Mac better than Windows, she doesn't care, just like most people don't care about the details on things the like. Systems built for programmers have different expectations and UNIX/Linux/BSD are built for programmers.
Most people use computers today to surf the web and check email. How is the average Joe going to use iTunes? I've had documents created in OpenOffice on Linux and saved as a Word document not look right in Word on Windows, formatting gets changed etc... What if mom goes to a website that looks for a plugin not available on Linux? I first installed Linux in 1996, Slackware was the distribution. I think I had fewer issues with websites back then as most sites were programmed for Nutscrape 1.x/2.x. People need to face that Linux is only replacing UNIX and if you want a good UNIX laptop get a Mac. The amount of work I put in to installing Linux on my last few laptops was only worth it for me because I wanted to run Linux. I'm slowly moving towards buying me a Mac laptop, though I covet the old 12" powerbooks, they need to bring that form factor back. I don't like the MacBooks and they need to come out with a 12" MacBook Pro.
You gave a poor analogy, it was incorrect. A router routes traffic like a pbx routes calls. How is that for non-technical numb nuts? You tried to act like you knew more than you did, your arguing reinforces this.
I'm sure there must be people who like it, although I was under the impression that their primary customers were people who didn't know what good coffee tastes like. If you enjoy it, fine; go for it! Knock your socks off! Drink it all down, because I won't want any, and none of the many friends I have who know what good coffee is will, either.
That is a direct attempt to belittle me as somebody that wouldn't know what good coffee tastes like since that would be you and your friends.
Again, how is that philosophy treating you? You sound like you are one of those guys on the Nextel commercial laughing about Dungeon Masters not having levels.
Ummm all the things you describe involve no more thought than programming a microwave or VCR. Your description of a router and your use of subnet did show that you aren't as knowledgeable as you'd like to think you are.
Ummm that is not what "router" does, a router routes traffic. Now a router may have NAT or DHCP implemented on it but your description is not what a router is. Seven years of dial-up support and that is what you call knowledgeable? I'd figure somebody like yourself would be jumping on Wikipedia before posting such a clueless post to make yourself seem more knowledgeable than you really are. Your use of subnet shows you really don't understand it either. Maybe somebody needs some help entering their password or setting up Winsock on Window 3.1?
That is so clever, only those that like it aren't the ones that would know any better. How is that philosophy in life treating? I always like those on the Internet that view themselves with such a smug air or superiority.
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No I didn't read the article, I responded to the claim of unreasonable search, which it isn't. Now the part about cataloging and indexing, that is scary. Government shouldn't be tracking me unless exigent circumstances exist. Of course in this day and age, exigent seems to be pretty liberal.
So police looking at license plates is unreasonable search? I don't think so, it is a publicly viewable item. They are not taking extraorindary steps to view the license plate. It isn't hidden behind your closed drapes in your house, it is in full view on the road. I see nothing wrong with this as long as only license plates matching stolen vehicles or cars registered to felons with warrants for their arrest are logged and cataloged. I see absolutely no problem with that at all.
And also, they use QT because they like it's C++ API and they also believe KDevelop is the best IDE under Linux. These guys aren't UNIX/Linux geeks, they just work with what their customers ask for and use the tools they find to be the best after much testing.
I have a buddy in the oil and gas industry, he has a small geophysics firm. The firm writes software and their customers have eschewed Windows, they don't want windows server/client components anymore, they want Linux. It used to be that they got quite a bit of requests for Linux and Windows but nobody is asking for Windows anymore. Nine times out of ten the customers want the software available as an RPM for RHEL. They also test on CentOS and Fedora but the vast majority of their customers want it to work on RHEL. I found it very interesting when I discussed it with him.
I had 6Mbps service through them several years ago and routinely downloaded ISOs at 10Mbps.
isn'tthat weird???
That you are dutch???
Sorry couldn't resist.
I think that Apple would have acted the same either way. Jobs doesn't like to get upstaged.
It sounds retaliatory. Seriously, Apple doesn't like things to be pre-announced and I'm sure that they had a contingency in place just in case of such things.
I didn't comment on the quality of Windows. I was referring to the slew of stories about Vista currently and all the faux geeks getting their panties in a wad... oh Office 2k7 isn't getting used by somebody... oh RAM that was supposed to go to Vista isn't getting sold.... I've been using Linux since 1.2.13 and the Mac OS since the Original Mac came out so I don't need lessons on them. Microsoft provides a product that works well for a lot of the population, if it didn't, they wouldn't have their position and I know about the Anti-trust suit etc etc ad nausem... Look at it this way, RAM will drop if supply stays high, just like it did in 95/96. Hell, I remember how happy I was when I maxed out my 486DX/33 at 36 megs for under $100. It mad all my operating systems run crazy fast. OS/2 felt like it was the future.
I brought my C-64 to school in 1988 and made all the Apple Machines look stupid. Now when I went to College I fell in love with the Mac but always though the Apple II line got too much attention.
Yet Windows still dominates the desktop market.
Do people that believe as you do acknowledge that religion existed before the bible was written and the texts the compose the bible were not the first religious texts written by man?
You said a router provided a mapping of one to many ip addresses, a router doesn't do that. You think PBX is an everyday term? I don't believe in one true way, you do. After all, you and your friends are the key holders to what is good coffee and what is a good analogy among many other things I'm sure. You still doing tech support?
The market determines what is available. Remember Loki Games? Remember VA Linux? There are providers offering laptops right now with Linux installed and they have been doing it in the pas as well. Let me guess, past failures are because they don't know how to market to you or the millions you believe that are ready to pounce right?
Back when Acrobat came out for OS/2 there was a lot of downloads in the first few days, Adobe actually took note, and then they fell to nothing quickly. The OS/2 users were ecstatic in the first few days, look at all of us, then the momentum couldn't be kept up. There is what we want to believe and what is real.
I don't like Windows as a primary OS but I use it for what I need to use it for. I have used and installed many different operating systems on many different hardware platforms. My mind is very open, I'm just not in to wishful thinking. So are you going to start working towards making Linux more useful for the mainstream market?
I think those able and willing to fix Linux's deficiencies in the DVD realm should post to this thread with what their contribution to solving the problem will be.
I work for a very small company, eight people. I am a jack of all trades including tech support because when you are that small you have to. I dumb things down all the time for people, so I don't need a lecture from you. Your protests belie your claims and your analogy was a poor one and incorrect.
Your router implements a service called NAT which allows one address to be shared among many computers. You can have one Internet Address and have multiple computers connected to the Internet through the router.
See that is nice and easy and not a wrong statement and didn't bring up a PBX which the user may not even know about. So are you arguing that you have to make incorrect statements to be non-technical?
My mom is the average user. I appoint you to support everyone that you think can easily replace Windows with Linux. Your vision is myopic. The number of people that want Linux on their laptop is small, the market supports my view.
Long answer yes...
People that are more than consumers of computer technology have different reasons for what they do. Tell me, have you ever listened to somebody talk about something like cars or a sport that you didn't really have more than a fleeting interest in? How many people could even open the hood of their car and name anything besides pointing out the engine? Do you watch a sport but not care about the politics or history of it? My wife could give a flip about what I went through to find a cardbus nic that I could use kismet with or why I find this to be a problem. She is a Mac user but I couldn't explain to her by I like the Mac better than Windows, she doesn't care, just like most people don't care about the details on things the like. Systems built for programmers have different expectations and UNIX/Linux/BSD are built for programmers.
Most people use computers today to surf the web and check email. How is the average Joe going to use iTunes? I've had documents created in OpenOffice on Linux and saved as a Word document not look right in Word on Windows, formatting gets changed etc... What if mom goes to a website that looks for a plugin not available on Linux? I first installed Linux in 1996, Slackware was the distribution. I think I had fewer issues with websites back then as most sites were programmed for Nutscrape 1.x/2.x. People need to face that Linux is only replacing UNIX and if you want a good UNIX laptop get a Mac. The amount of work I put in to installing Linux on my last few laptops was only worth it for me because I wanted to run Linux. I'm slowly moving towards buying me a Mac laptop, though I covet the old 12" powerbooks, they need to bring that form factor back. I don't like the MacBooks and they need to come out with a 12" MacBook Pro.
You gave a poor analogy, it was incorrect. A router routes traffic like a pbx routes calls. How is that for non-technical numb nuts? You tried to act like you knew more than you did, your arguing reinforces this.
You aren't doing tech support on Slashdot and your other posts point to what you really know ;-). Stop trying to weasel.
Ummm you wrote:
I'm sure there must be people who like it, although I was under the impression that their primary customers were people who didn't know what good coffee tastes like. If you enjoy it, fine; go for it! Knock your socks off! Drink it all down, because I won't want any, and none of the many friends I have who know what good coffee is will, either.
That is a direct attempt to belittle me as somebody that wouldn't know what good coffee tastes like since that would be you and your friends.
Again, how is that philosophy treating you? You sound like you are one of those guys on the Nextel commercial laughing about Dungeon Masters not having levels.
Ummm all the things you describe involve no more thought than programming a microwave or VCR. Your description of a router and your use of subnet did show that you aren't as knowledgeable as you'd like to think you are.
Ummm that is not what "router" does, a router routes traffic. Now a router may have NAT or DHCP implemented on it but your description is not what a router is. Seven years of dial-up support and that is what you call knowledgeable? I'd figure somebody like yourself would be jumping on Wikipedia before posting such a clueless post to make yourself seem more knowledgeable than you really are. Your use of subnet shows you really don't understand it either. Maybe somebody needs some help entering their password or setting up Winsock on Window 3.1?
That is so clever, only those that like it aren't the ones that would know any better. How is that philosophy in life treating? I always like those on the Internet that view themselves with such a smug air or superiority.