Ok, here I can actually give a good rebuttal to your unsubstiantiated claims. I personally enjoy reading the occasional rape fantasy when I find the story exciting but I would never dream of doing it in reality and find the idea of real rape abhorrent.
But you can't divorce the reality from the fantasy like that. Rape is abhorrent so you're either getting off on a sick fantasy and then engaging in some major denial or your fantasising about rape role-play.
I said in my post below that I know a girl who has a rape fantasy; she understands that means either getting raped by an unfeeling psychopath or having a normal guy have a moment of madness and then experience extreme guilt afterwards. It's weird but understandable as an extreme domination fantasy.
All you have demonstrated is that you have a lack of seperation between fantasy and reality. Something that seems to be a common trait among those who are pushing legislation against sexual fetishes.
I could say you're the one suffering from a fantasy deficit, I mean, if you're imagining rape without the horror then it's not really rape, it's something else.
Oh, and I don't support legislation against pure fantasy. I do think even non-contact paedophiles should be restricted when it comes to access to children for the reason I outlined below, however.
Apologies for the late reply, this time of year is busy but I really am interested in what you have to say.
I've been here since 2006, when Epifora (an ISP which hosted pro-paedophile websites) was cut off by Verizon. I did not come from annabelleigh.net, though I do post there occasionally.
Well I last saw you post in a thread criticising Google for removing that site from its results, hence the connection.
Paedophilic fantasies are not typically based upon a desire for power; I actually like the idea of being controlled by a child (anything can happen in a fantasy, it doesn't need to be realistic). Many child molesters abuse children because they have a desire for power, but those offenders are rarely paedophilic.
There is little point in trying to build theories about something of which you have no knowledge.
It's a little presumptuous to claim I have no knowledge of alternative sexuality. To be clear, I'm friends with a lady who has a rape fantasy. This is something she really wants to happen and whilst the content of her fantasy is unusual it's at least understandable that she wants her fantasy to be fulfilled.
What I find odd about your claims is that you have a sexual fantasy that you don't want to be fulfilled. Whilst everyone fantasises about loads of different things all the time when people have a powerful sexual fantasy then, out of all the people I know and have ever spoken to (and I know a fair few people with outlandish fantasies) they all really wanted to do it - it was just a matter of getting the right circumstances.
There are a myriad of ethical, social and legal reasons to avoid sex with children. I avoid sex with children for the same (or similar) reasons that most men don't walk up to a woman in the street and start groping her. Why is that so difficult to understand?
And what, in your view, is that reason? I understand it to be because such behaviour is abhorrent. Some guys would say they don't do it because it's illegal, otherwise they would.
But you say...
Your argument is illogical, because there is nothing wrong with consensual sex between adults. The same cannot be said for sex with children, which is presumably one of the reasons why most child porn viewers don't molest children.
So you think sex with children is wrong in and of itself. Doesn't that intrude on your fantasy? For me an essential part of a fantasy is to imagine really being that person in that place doing that thing with all the consequences that entails, unless you're imagining children who are somehow capable of consent?
Okay. Can you find any studies with contrary findings?
No, it just runs so contrary to my experience (and I'd wager most peoples experience of wanting to fulfil sexual fantasies) it's almost as if someone decided to measure g and found it to be -20m/s^2.
Apparently the only thing holding back a FFVII remake is getting most of the old crew back together again, basically it's a scheduling issue. Square did a FFVII tech demo for the PS3 ages ago that made everyone go mental so they ended up having to release a statement explaining what was what.
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix would do me fine. If only they hadn't released the PS3 version in NA in such a terrible state, no wonder SCE{Europe,Asia} refused to allow it out.
I could just buy the 360 version but I'll hate to break and start paying for Live now. I get enough online fun out of my PC & PS3.
I knew as soon as I saw this discussion you guys from annabelleigh.net would be out in force. I asked you last time we had a discussion how you could claim that most paedophiles don't really want to have sex with children and you didn't respond.
The reality is that you're deluding yourself and the fact that you're attempting to publicly justify your delusion in this manner is more than a little sad. Straight people download porn about having sex with adults of the opposite sex then they go out and do it, or at least attempt it; the same can be said of gay people with the caveat that it's adults of the same sex.
Why would paedophiles view images (real or simulated) and then not want to have sex with children?
I saw your post above where you cherry picked some studies that failed to show a link between viewing images and desire to have sex with children but we all know that if you just limit yourself to a few studies you can prove any point. The broad experience of just about everyone on the planet is that we view pornography that shows us our fantasy, i.e. things we'd really like to do (if only we had the pulling power).
Rather than try to depict yourself as the victim of politicians playing some power game with your fantasies, isn't it really the case that sex with children (real or imagined) is all about power? How can it be about anything other than a power fantasy where you place yourself above somebody who doesn't have the physical or mental capacity to defend themselves?
Even if you limit yourself to virtual images of children I find it very weird that you'd come out in public and defend what's essentially a rape fantasy.
You started by saying that communism is known to be a fundamental failure, then you insinuate that I'm somehow wrong by suggesting that what Marx argued for has never come about and now you've accepted that I'm right by saying that Marxism has never been implemented but it doesn't matter because he's just too weird it can't possibly be done in real life.
Incidentally, I don't believe Das Kapital is like some sort of bible; I understand that Marx himself thought of it as a form of intellectual propaganda. By teasing out the contradictions in Capitalism he was hoping to show how broken the current system is and his critique is just as valid today.
I can't seem to find any official mention of it. I remember when I first got it I googled and found someone talking about it on a private blog. Here's a thread with a couple of people talking about it.
I'm guessing it must be down to getting a good rating in M2.
We have article one of the Human Rights Act as enshrined in UK law. It's actually stronger than the US first amendment because it guarantees a positive right to free speech whereas the US First Amendment simply stops the government from restricting speech. This means your right to say what you feel is protected at work whereas in the US companies are free to fire you for disagreeing with them, as long as it's applied consistently.
Silence in court is not evidence of guilt. There is a right to silence. The new caution is "you have the right to remain silent, if you fail to mention something which you later rely on in court then this may harm your defence". This was to stop people from saying absolutely nothing and then coming up with alibis at trial and then getting the case thrown out by default because the CPS didn't have any evidence against you.
If you just remain totally silent and the police can't come up with enough evidence against you you will walk.
But you haven't addressed the point. Communism is about common ownership of the means of production and the destruction of the state. After the 1917 revolution there were democratic soviets; they were dismantled due to the ongoing civil war.
It's also quite telling that prominent socialists who've argued this were, in the past, persecuted and assassinated by Stalinists, most notably Leon Trotsky (who wasn't a saint by any margin).
So yea, a workers society with common ownership of the means of production and freedom and all that stuff. The USSR and China clearly don't qualify as that so therefore Communism hasn't ever really existed - never mind the fact that it was always supposed to have a "world historical" existence, and so some (I think the label is "Stagist") would argue that Communism can only possibly exist after global world capitalism.
There's lots to disagree with when it comes to Marx but it'd be nice if people disagreed with what he actually said and not a bunch of weird misconceptions.
Read up and then at least you can disagree in an informed manner.
Anyone who argues that communism has ever existed anywhere in this world, except for the brief period of democracy following the 1917 revolution, hasn't really read or understood Das Kapital.
I can rip blu-ray, I suspect because I haven't looked
Actually, blu-ray is getting more secure as time goes on. The current crop of releases have been secure for at least the past few months and I think Slysoft (authors of AnyDVD, the guys who generally lead the way in these matters) have said they won't have a working crack until something like Feb next year.
I think you're quite right that this is a big hurdle to adoption. Right now blu-ray is being driven by the massive number of HDTVs being sold - even average people are preferring 1080p "FullHD" sets here in the UK - but that doesn't do anything when it comes to portable video devices.
There's not much point in having a HD portable media player as screen sizes are generally smaller plus lighting conditions are never ideal on the move. I reckon they should implement a mechanism for allowing people to make SD rips of BDs or even put a one-time code in each box for a non-DRM SD download, ideally an x264 mkv with a full selection of DVD quality audio streams & subtitles. It'd be a great incentive to buy new rather than used but it'd take far too much common sense than the film industry has these days.
Then around the mid-1800s, things flipped around when a number of thinkers (most notably Karl Marx) decided that the goals of Liberalism (maximum individual happiness and prosperity) could be achieved through the mechanisms of Conservatism (centralized power)
I always thought (from, you know, reading his work) that Marx was big on the dismantling of the state. His view of the final state of socialism was quite anarchistic, in fact. The totalitarian forms of "Marxism" that were starting to spring up in his day were criticised by him leading him to famously state "If that is Marxism, I am not a Marxist!"
You must've just been quicker than me. As I said in my post above, I did it in about a month solid so the plain game+expansions took me closer to 300hrs. The 400 number is a guesstimate from adding in all the mods you can install at Pocketplane.net.
I only spent about half as long rolling for stats too:)
No, subscribers get a * next to their name. It might be related to the fact that I've acquired the fifteen point super-mod status but I don't see how that should be related to not having the five min wait.
But if everyone who used a Windows PC started using an Xbox instead MS would make heaps more money. They could port Windows to the Xbox (it's basically PowerPC with ATI graphics) so then you'd have a Windows box with hardware DRM. They'd make money on the box as sold and also on any software sold on the platform as everyone would need to get a license from them. It'd be unimaginable sums of cash!
Not that it would ever really play out that way - commodity PCs would just be cheaper so businesses would never go for it - but I wouldn't be surprised if MS (or Sony even) tried to do something along those lines in the next generation for home users.
Remember, the original Japanese name for the Nintendo Entertainment System was the FamiCom, short for Family Computer.
I don't know if this is true for all Blu-rays but my copies of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight just go straight into the film. I actually found it a little confusing as you have to push a button to get a pop-up menu to reach the extras but to be honest I prefer it and I'm hoping this is true for other BDs.
There was a time when everything you just said applied to DVDs too. Blu-ray is getting cheaper faster than DVD did; I think it was 98 when DVD hit the market but it wasn't until past 2000 when they became mainstream here in the UK.
The format war was only won at the start of this year but already Blu-ray is in the hands of a lot of people. I ended up getting the complete Band of Brothers on Blu-ray for my dad (and also the Batman Begins / Dark Knight boxset for myself!) for xmas and I was far from the only person shopping for BRs.
PKD loved Blade Runner, he totally understood the fact that film is a different medium so even the same story has to be told in a different way.
I actually find the controversy about Deckard being a replicant, something that was played with in the the book and then discarded, highly amusing. You can construct arguments for and against depending on your point of view and the version of the film you're watching but those arguments are pretty much at the core of what the book was trying to get at - what counts as human?
Slashdot Mirror
Ok, here I can actually give a good rebuttal to your unsubstiantiated claims. I personally enjoy reading the occasional rape fantasy when I find the story exciting but I would never dream of doing it in reality and find the idea of real rape abhorrent.
But you can't divorce the reality from the fantasy like that. Rape is abhorrent so you're either getting off on a sick fantasy and then engaging in some major denial or your fantasising about rape role-play.
I said in my post below that I know a girl who has a rape fantasy; she understands that means either getting raped by an unfeeling psychopath or having a normal guy have a moment of madness and then experience extreme guilt afterwards. It's weird but understandable as an extreme domination fantasy.
All you have demonstrated is that you have a lack of seperation between fantasy and reality. Something that seems to be a common trait among those who are pushing legislation against sexual fetishes.
I could say you're the one suffering from a fantasy deficit, I mean, if you're imagining rape without the horror then it's not really rape, it's something else.
Oh, and I don't support legislation against pure fantasy. I do think even non-contact paedophiles should be restricted when it comes to access to children for the reason I outlined below, however.
Apologies for the late reply, this time of year is busy but I really am interested in what you have to say.
I've been here since 2006, when Epifora (an ISP which hosted pro-paedophile websites) was cut off by Verizon. I did not come from annabelleigh.net, though I do post there occasionally.
Well I last saw you post in a thread criticising Google for removing that site from its results, hence the connection.
Paedophilic fantasies are not typically based upon a desire for power; I actually like the idea of being controlled by a child (anything can happen in a fantasy, it doesn't need to be realistic). Many child molesters abuse children because they have a desire for power, but those offenders are rarely paedophilic.
There is little point in trying to build theories about something of which you have no knowledge.
It's a little presumptuous to claim I have no knowledge of alternative sexuality. To be clear, I'm friends with a lady who has a rape fantasy. This is something she really wants to happen and whilst the content of her fantasy is unusual it's at least understandable that she wants her fantasy to be fulfilled.
What I find odd about your claims is that you have a sexual fantasy that you don't want to be fulfilled. Whilst everyone fantasises about loads of different things all the time when people have a powerful sexual fantasy then, out of all the people I know and have ever spoken to (and I know a fair few people with outlandish fantasies) they all really wanted to do it - it was just a matter of getting the right circumstances.
There are a myriad of ethical, social and legal reasons to avoid sex with children. I avoid sex with children for the same (or similar) reasons that most men don't walk up to a woman in the street and start groping her. Why is that so difficult to understand?
And what, in your view, is that reason? I understand it to be because such behaviour is abhorrent. Some guys would say they don't do it because it's illegal, otherwise they would.
But you say...
Your argument is illogical, because there is nothing wrong with consensual sex between adults. The same cannot be said for sex with children, which is presumably one of the reasons why most child porn viewers don't molest children.
So you think sex with children is wrong in and of itself. Doesn't that intrude on your fantasy? For me an essential part of a fantasy is to imagine really being that person in that place doing that thing with all the consequences that entails, unless you're imagining children who are somehow capable of consent?
Okay. Can you find any studies with contrary findings?
No, it just runs so contrary to my experience (and I'd wager most peoples experience of wanting to fulfil sexual fantasies) it's almost as if someone decided to measure g and found it to be -20m/s^2.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to reply.
So I think it's not realistic to assume that all a pedophile wants is to have sex with children, and that they can't find satisfaction any other way.
I was discussing paedophilia as a sexuality in the same way as hetro and homesexuality. As you state, people can have multiple sexual identities.
Apparently the only thing holding back a FFVII remake is getting most of the old crew back together again, basically it's a scheduling issue. Square did a FFVII tech demo for the PS3 ages ago that made everyone go mental so they ended up having to release a statement explaining what was what.
So yea, it may happen!
Serpent Isle / Silver Seed was OK. I like how they made a stab at explaining the disappearance of the rest of the world earlier on the series.
It is a shame there were no more after that though :)
Super Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix would do me fine. If only they hadn't released the PS3 version in NA in such a terrible state, no wonder SCE{Europe,Asia} refused to allow it out.
I could just buy the 360 version but I'll hate to break and start paying for Live now. I get enough online fun out of my PC & PS3.
I knew as soon as I saw this discussion you guys from annabelleigh.net would be out in force. I asked you last time we had a discussion how you could claim that most paedophiles don't really want to have sex with children and you didn't respond.
The reality is that you're deluding yourself and the fact that you're attempting to publicly justify your delusion in this manner is more than a little sad. Straight people download porn about having sex with adults of the opposite sex then they go out and do it, or at least attempt it; the same can be said of gay people with the caveat that it's adults of the same sex.
Why would paedophiles view images (real or simulated) and then not want to have sex with children?
I saw your post above where you cherry picked some studies that failed to show a link between viewing images and desire to have sex with children but we all know that if you just limit yourself to a few studies you can prove any point. The broad experience of just about everyone on the planet is that we view pornography that shows us our fantasy, i.e. things we'd really like to do (if only we had the pulling power).
Rather than try to depict yourself as the victim of politicians playing some power game with your fantasies, isn't it really the case that sex with children (real or imagined) is all about power? How can it be about anything other than a power fantasy where you place yourself above somebody who doesn't have the physical or mental capacity to defend themselves?
Even if you limit yourself to virtual images of children I find it very weird that you'd come out in public and defend what's essentially a rape fantasy.
OK, so you've reached logic fail.
You started by saying that communism is known to be a fundamental failure, then you insinuate that I'm somehow wrong by suggesting that what Marx argued for has never come about and now you've accepted that I'm right by saying that Marxism has never been implemented but it doesn't matter because he's just too weird it can't possibly be done in real life.
Incidentally, I don't believe Das Kapital is like some sort of bible; I understand that Marx himself thought of it as a form of intellectual propaganda. By teasing out the contradictions in Capitalism he was hoping to show how broken the current system is and his critique is just as valid today.
I can't seem to find any official mention of it. I remember when I first got it I googled and found someone talking about it on a private blog. Here's a thread with a couple of people talking about it.
I'm guessing it must be down to getting a good rating in M2.
Read that caution again. Staying silent won't harm your defence, failing to mention something you later rely on in court will.
We have article one of the Human Rights Act as enshrined in UK law. It's actually stronger than the US first amendment because it guarantees a positive right to free speech whereas the US First Amendment simply stops the government from restricting speech. This means your right to say what you feel is protected at work whereas in the US companies are free to fire you for disagreeing with them, as long as it's applied consistently.
Silence in court is not evidence of guilt. There is a right to silence. The new caution is "you have the right to remain silent, if you fail to mention something which you later rely on in court then this may harm your defence". This was to stop people from saying absolutely nothing and then coming up with alibis at trial and then getting the case thrown out by default because the CPS didn't have any evidence against you.
If you just remain totally silent and the police can't come up with enough evidence against you you will walk.
But you haven't addressed the point. Communism is about common ownership of the means of production and the destruction of the state. After the 1917 revolution there were democratic soviets; they were dismantled due to the ongoing civil war.
It's also quite telling that prominent socialists who've argued this were, in the past, persecuted and assassinated by Stalinists, most notably Leon Trotsky (who wasn't a saint by any margin).
So yea, a workers society with common ownership of the means of production and freedom and all that stuff. The USSR and China clearly don't qualify as that so therefore Communism hasn't ever really existed - never mind the fact that it was always supposed to have a "world historical" existence, and so some (I think the label is "Stagist") would argue that Communism can only possibly exist after global world capitalism.
There's lots to disagree with when it comes to Marx but it'd be nice if people disagreed with what he actually said and not a bunch of weird misconceptions.
Read up and then at least you can disagree in an informed manner.
Anyone who argues that communism has ever existed anywhere in this world, except for the brief period of democracy following the 1917 revolution, hasn't really read or understood Das Kapital.
I can rip blu-ray, I suspect because I haven't looked
Actually, blu-ray is getting more secure as time goes on. The current crop of releases have been secure for at least the past few months and I think Slysoft (authors of AnyDVD, the guys who generally lead the way in these matters) have said they won't have a working crack until something like Feb next year.
I think you're quite right that this is a big hurdle to adoption. Right now blu-ray is being driven by the massive number of HDTVs being sold - even average people are preferring 1080p "FullHD" sets here in the UK - but that doesn't do anything when it comes to portable video devices.
There's not much point in having a HD portable media player as screen sizes are generally smaller plus lighting conditions are never ideal on the move. I reckon they should implement a mechanism for allowing people to make SD rips of BDs or even put a one-time code in each box for a non-DRM SD download, ideally an x264 mkv with a full selection of DVD quality audio streams & subtitles. It'd be a great incentive to buy new rather than used but it'd take far too much common sense than the film industry has these days.
Then around the mid-1800s, things flipped around when a number of thinkers (most notably Karl Marx) decided that the goals of Liberalism (maximum individual happiness and prosperity) could be achieved through the mechanisms of Conservatism (centralized power)
I always thought (from, you know, reading his work) that Marx was big on the dismantling of the state. His view of the final state of socialism was quite anarchistic, in fact. The totalitarian forms of "Marxism" that were starting to spring up in his day were criticised by him leading him to famously state "If that is Marxism, I am not a Marxist!"
You must've just been quicker than me. As I said in my post above, I did it in about a month solid so the plain game+expansions took me closer to 300hrs. The 400 number is a guesstimate from adding in all the mods you can install at Pocketplane.net.
I only spent about half as long rolling for stats too :)
No, subscribers get a * next to their name. It might be related to the fact that I've acquired the fifteen point super-mod status but I don't see how that should be related to not having the five min wait.
It could just be a bug :P
Wait, so because I'm a GNU/FSF True Believer I have to eat Bruce Perens for supper? Well, worse things have been done in the name of freedom.....
BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIINNSSS!!!!!
People keep on banging on about this five minute waiting period but I only get it when I want to post AC. This post is less than 5m since my last!
+5 insightful? This is deserving of a +5 Troll more than anything I've read on /.!
But if everyone who used a Windows PC started using an Xbox instead MS would make heaps more money. They could port Windows to the Xbox (it's basically PowerPC with ATI graphics) so then you'd have a Windows box with hardware DRM. They'd make money on the box as sold and also on any software sold on the platform as everyone would need to get a license from them. It'd be unimaginable sums of cash!
Not that it would ever really play out that way - commodity PCs would just be cheaper so businesses would never go for it - but I wouldn't be surprised if MS (or Sony even) tried to do something along those lines in the next generation for home users.
Remember, the original Japanese name for the Nintendo Entertainment System was the FamiCom, short for Family Computer.
I don't know if this is true for all Blu-rays but my copies of Batman Begins and The Dark Knight just go straight into the film. I actually found it a little confusing as you have to push a button to get a pop-up menu to reach the extras but to be honest I prefer it and I'm hoping this is true for other BDs.
There was a time when everything you just said applied to DVDs too. Blu-ray is getting cheaper faster than DVD did; I think it was 98 when DVD hit the market but it wasn't until past 2000 when they became mainstream here in the UK.
The format war was only won at the start of this year but already Blu-ray is in the hands of a lot of people. I ended up getting the complete Band of Brothers on Blu-ray for my dad (and also the Batman Begins / Dark Knight boxset for myself!) for xmas and I was far from the only person shopping for BRs.
PKD loved Blade Runner, he totally understood the fact that film is a different medium so even the same story has to be told in a different way.
I actually find the controversy about Deckard being a replicant, something that was played with in the the book and then discarded, highly amusing. You can construct arguments for and against depending on your point of view and the version of the film you're watching but those arguments are pretty much at the core of what the book was trying to get at - what counts as human?