Now that I find out that a keystroke combination on the interface of an ATM will bring up a GUI to reprogram the machine, protected only by a default password
Hm... diebold makes ATMs... and voting machines.
You don't suppose they reused some of the code do you?
Anybody know how to pull up the interface on a diebold ATM!?
(You can bet your ass I'd try it on the voting machine!)
OK, look. Any time ANYBODY says ANYTHING about an election, it is intrinsically about the Republicans and Democrats. They're the only ones with seats at the table, and they make all decisions wrt elections.
Too bad the voters can't get a seat at that table...
Fancy smansy windows based gui, when not crashing, allows me to "easily" cast a ballot. The electronic input is used for "the count"... it is official. (if all the "checks and balances" pass)
System spits out a human and computer readable form with the vote info on it. I, as the person that cast the vote, verify that the info matches my vote. (should probably do this step before "the vote" is counted)
Paper gets shoved thru a seperate counting system. (from a differnt company) Then put into a ballot box.
At the end of the day the two electronic counts are compared and must match by some value or a recount by hand is done.
Additionally, I'd like to see a bit of the ballots counted by hand and used to project what the final tally should be (as a form of QA). If the final tally doesn't match the projected amount... again a hand count is triggered.
Why not do what any manufacturer does to insure product quality?
Set up a "QA department".
Randomly sample (recount by hand) a percentage of the votes. Do a simple statistical analysis to project the final tally... if the final tally deviates from the projected tally by a certain amount (depending on the desired "quality" of the "product") then recount them all.
As far as I know, the Federal Government cannot dictate what machines or what process is used by each State when it holds elections. The Constitution expressly leaves the elections to the States.
They also can't tell states what their speed limits will be either.
But, they can establish "guidelines" and give you a bundle of money if you follow them.
I think most rational people understand that if you don't have any form of ID at all, you're either a.) probably not keeping very close tabs on the political issues at hand, or b.) lying for the purposes of committing vote fraud.
Oh give me a break... that isn't rational at all.
I live in a two story house.
The master bedroom and bath are upstairs.
Downstairs is my office, a hot tub, a bath... and the laundry room.
I often shower downstairs and grab some clothes from the laundry room and head out... without my wallet.
The keys are on a hook by the entry... and all my vehicles are loaded w/ cash.
I see no reason to spend ten minutes trying to figure out where the heck I left my wallet this time.
And, you can't always send the kids outside either.
True, sometimes there are blizzards and floods.
Actually, most people would consider sending an 18 month old kid outside without an adult to be a bad thing.
I'm one of those people.
I can't cook dinner and watch the kids at the same time.
My mom could. Mothers' have eyes in the backs of their heads, you know.
Well, she'd also have to be able to see thru walls if the kids were outside and she was in the kitchen. It probably wouldn't hurt to be able to jump over buildings either since it is 10 feet down from the deck to the ground and she isn't gonna want to waste time with the stairs on the other side of the house if she really, really needs to get to the kids before they get into trouble.
Also, I wonder...
Did they have a sex offender registry back then?
How about cars running down the street 20 mph over the speed limit?
How many meth houses were within a mile radius of your mom's house? (I didn't realize we had one down the street for years... we live in a "quiet" golf course neighborhood)
Today's parents aren't raising kids in the same environment as their parents did...
Yeah, but he said his kids pitch a bitch fit when a commercial interrupts whatever programs his kids watch, and are immediately satiated when the program returns. I can infer that a) they either sit infront of the tube way too much, or b) his kids, whom probably most enjoy Teletubbies and Barney the Purple Dinosaur, are enraged at the socioeconomic ramifications of pushing Marlbros to kids in diapers like he would apparently like everyone to believe, and they're not simply kvetching because Dora The Explorer went away for a couple moments.
Try this one on for size: Their time in front of the tube is limited.
Commercials eat up the available time... which means less time left for the show they want to watch.
And, they've never seen either of the shows you mention... for whatever that is worth.
He can't watch the kids and cook macaroni and cheese simultaneously? Well blow me down, he must be one of the couple dozen people in the entire world who just can't multitask... I guess that must mean he's focused like a laser beam, ready to cut metal plates into tiny bits with sheer power of mental concentration... Right.
Actually, it means that I have a large house. Two young 'uns... and little patience for horseplay. The kids are five and two... and they love to run and jump and throw stuff. All of which is great for kids, but not so great for housewares.
We don't let them have the run of the place... it isn't a barn.
They are expected to behave... and we watch them to make sure they do.
I get the feeling that his statement "So, yeah. Sometimes they get to watch the tube." would be more accurately said "So, yeah. They spend most of their waking hours in front of the tube.", from his own anecdotal proof.
They get to watch half of a "Jay - Jay The Jet Plane" in the morning, and the other half in the afternoon.
Sometimes... we let them watch part, or all of a "Thomas the Tank Engine"... but usually that is on the weekend when we'd like a few more minutes of time to get orgainized for the day.
In short, you are projecting.
Bad behaviour in children is because something is wrong with the parent, 99.99% of the time.
You must be talking about someone else's kids now. Because mine are not badly behaved.
Nothing at all is wrong with a kid not wanting to waste time watching a commercial!
If you think that children being upset because a commercial interrupts the Thomas the Tank Engine show is not indicative of something wrong, I'm sorry, for you, and any offspring you ever have, and anyone unfotrunate enough to ever be adjacent to them.
I can't think of a more appropriate response from a commercial. If I teach them nothing else in life, they should learn that watching commercials is too high of a price to pay for watching TV.
There are better things to do with their time if that is the only way to watch TV!
One kid is 5 and can read at a second grade level.
The other is 18 months old... let's let him learn to start talking a little better first... ok?
Kids who read on their own before preschool end up with significantly better vocabularies and tend to be much more articulate--they also have a lot less trouble with schoolwork.
It requires a lot of work on the parents' part to read to the kid every night from the time they are a baby to get them to take to it, but if that's what it takes to have a smart kid, isn't it worth it?
I would agree.
But let's face it...
Every now and then, it is ok to watch a little TV.
So what if some thugs make you withdraw money from the ATM at gunpoint? Did you shred your ATM card, too?
Actually...
;-)
I don't do banking over the internet... or have an ATM card.
Mainly becasue ATMs don't let me withdraw as much cash as I want... and I'm not willing to pay a fee for using one.
So, every now and then... I go to the bank (usually to deposit a check for a contract gig) and take out a couple of thousand in 20's... then I stick them in the fire safe at home.
Probably not as uncommon as your (somewhat) sarcastic remark may imply...
If the person didn't want to give the information over the phone to a person that had called them, we were instructed to give them the company's main 800 number, and a reference number so they could verify that it was legitimate. In three months I did not have to give this information out a single time.
Yeah, I don't trust you... so... let me call you back on the number you just gave me to make sure you are who you say you are.
On the other hand, this sort of thing could also seriously undermine the confidence that people have in online transactions and the like, so I can't help but wonder if maybe it isn't shortsighted not to just take the hit.
A few years ago I would probably agree with you 100%.
Now, I'm a bit more jaded. I simply don't think that people will get any smarter about this. So... the problem isn't short term.
With that in mind, I don't think banks should let people use their service online until they've passed some kind of test showing they are qualified to do so.
Actually, they are smart enough to know they are watching a specific show... and that they aren't sitting there to have shit^H^H commercials stuffed into their head.
And, you can't always send the kids outside either.
There is only one of me... mom works too... and someone has to cook dinner.
I can't cook dinner and watch the kids at the same time.
And neither can you.
So, yeah. Sometimes they get to watch the tube. If you don't like it... tough.
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Where else would you put it?
I would have put it on the cover of the manual.
Right out in front so everyone in the world could see it.
Maybe that way... it would have a good chance of getting changed.
Why wouldnt those ATM-s require that the case would be open and a key sticked in to go in programming mode...
Hold on, let me adjust my tin foil...
There, much better now.
Maybe some country asked them to do it this way so their agents could have a fallback method of getting some quick cash?
Just thinking out loud here...
Now that I find out that a keystroke combination on the interface of an ATM will bring up a GUI to reprogram the machine, protected only by a default password
Hm... diebold makes ATMs... and voting machines.
You don't suppose they reused some of the code do you?
Anybody know how to pull up the interface on a diebold ATM!?
(You can bet your ass I'd try it on the voting machine!)
But to be fair it also stated in very big bold type that this default master password should be changed.
Just to play devil's advocate...
That box should have been on the damn cover of the instruction manual instead of 30 some odd pages back (page 19 + the "intro").
Chances are, if it was right in your face... you'd change it.
Phantom Menace kicks Perl's ass.
;-)
Yeah, but can he do it in one line?
OK, look. Any time ANYBODY says ANYTHING about an election, it is intrinsically about the Republicans and Democrats. They're the only ones with seats at the table, and they make all decisions wrt elections.
Too bad the voters can't get a seat at that table...
Here is what I envision...
Fancy smansy windows based gui, when not crashing, allows me to "easily" cast a ballot. The electronic input is used for "the count"... it is official. (if all the "checks and balances" pass)
System spits out a human and computer readable form with the vote info on it. I, as the person that cast the vote, verify that the info matches my vote. (should probably do this step before "the vote" is counted)
Paper gets shoved thru a seperate counting system. (from a differnt company) Then put into a ballot box.
At the end of the day the two electronic counts are compared and must match by some value or a recount by hand is done.
Additionally, I'd like to see a bit of the ballots counted by hand and used to project what the final tally should be (as a form of QA). If the final tally doesn't match the projected amount... again a hand count is triggered.
Why not do what any manufacturer does to insure product quality?
Set up a "QA department".
Randomly sample (recount by hand) a percentage of the votes. Do a simple statistical analysis to project the final tally... if the final tally deviates from the projected tally by a certain amount (depending on the desired "quality" of the "product") then recount them all.
Do this at each "manufacturing site".
Pretty straight forward, me thinks...
The real government is the shadow government put into place after S-11 changed
everything.
After?
Dude, go big or stay home!
If you want to go the conspiracy route... then you should note that this isn't the first time that most of these guys have been "in office".
They set up their shadow gov't when alzheimer boy was reading his lines...
As far as I know, the Federal Government cannot dictate what machines or what process is used by each State when it holds elections. The Constitution expressly leaves the elections to the States.
They also can't tell states what their speed limits will be either.
But, they can establish "guidelines" and give you a bundle of money if you follow them.
The end result is the same...
I think most rational people understand that if you don't have any form of ID at all, you're either a.) probably not keeping very close tabs on the political issues at hand, or b.) lying for the purposes of committing vote fraud.
Oh give me a break... that isn't rational at all.
I live in a two story house.
The master bedroom and bath are upstairs.
Downstairs is my office, a hot tub, a bath... and the laundry room.
I often shower downstairs and grab some clothes from the laundry room and head out... without my wallet.
The keys are on a hook by the entry... and all my vehicles are loaded w/ cash.
I see no reason to spend ten minutes trying to figure out where the heck I left my wallet this time.
It is as simple as that.
Having half of your credits come from freshman level courses doesn't seem the most appropriate method to getting an eduation.
Considering the pace and methodology, I'd say he wasn't interested in an education... he was there to get a degree.
And... it sounds like he will be the perfect lawyer.
When I was your age, it was "living document".
./'s are snot nosed punks. Some are wrinkled snot nosed punks!
;-)
Just out of curiosity, just how old do you think I am?
(I'm thinking you may not reach my age for a few years yet...)
Not all
But, I thought it was "war president".
Must have been too long...
Actually, most people would consider sending an 18 month old kid outside without an adult to be a bad thing.
I'm one of those people. My mom could. Mothers' have eyes in the backs of their heads, you know.
Well, she'd also have to be able to see thru walls if the kids were outside and she was in the kitchen. It probably wouldn't hurt to be able to jump over buildings either since it is 10 feet down from the deck to the ground and she isn't gonna want to waste time with the stairs on the other side of the house if she really, really needs to get to the kids before they get into trouble.
Also, I wonder...
Did they have a sex offender registry back then?
How about cars running down the street 20 mph over the speed limit?
How many meth houses were within a mile radius of your mom's house? (I didn't realize we had one down the street for years... we live in a "quiet" golf course neighborhood)
Today's parents aren't raising kids in the same environment as their parents did...
Yeah, but he said his kids pitch a bitch fit when a commercial interrupts whatever programs his kids watch, and are immediately satiated when the program returns. I can infer that a) they either sit infront of the tube way too much, or b) his kids, whom probably most enjoy Teletubbies and Barney the Purple Dinosaur, are enraged at the socioeconomic ramifications of pushing Marlbros to kids in diapers like he would apparently like everyone to believe, and they're not simply kvetching because Dora The Explorer went away for a couple moments.
Try this one on for size: Their time in front of the tube is limited.
Commercials eat up the available time... which means less time left for the show they want to watch.
And, they've never seen either of the shows you mention... for whatever that is worth.
He can't watch the kids and cook macaroni and cheese simultaneously? Well blow me down, he must be one of the couple dozen people in the entire world who just can't multitask... I guess that must mean he's focused like a laser beam, ready to cut metal plates into tiny bits with sheer power of mental concentration... Right.
Actually, it means that I have a large house. Two young 'uns... and little patience for horseplay. The kids are five and two... and they love to run and jump and throw stuff. All of which is great for kids, but not so great for housewares.
We don't let them have the run of the place... it isn't a barn.
They are expected to behave... and we watch them to make sure they do.
I get the feeling that his statement "So, yeah. Sometimes they get to watch the tube." would be more accurately said "So, yeah. They spend most of their waking hours in front of the tube.", from his own anecdotal proof.
They get to watch half of a "Jay - Jay The Jet Plane" in the morning, and the other half in the afternoon.
Sometimes... we let them watch part, or all of a "Thomas the Tank Engine"... but usually that is on the weekend when we'd like a few more minutes of time to get orgainized for the day.
In short, you are projecting.
Bad behaviour in children is because something is wrong with the parent, 99.99% of the time.
You must be talking about someone else's kids now. Because mine are not badly behaved.
Nothing at all is wrong with a kid not wanting to waste time watching a commercial!
If you think that children being upset because a commercial interrupts the Thomas the Tank Engine show is not indicative of something wrong, I'm sorry, for you, and any offspring you ever have, and anyone unfotrunate enough to ever be adjacent to them.
I can't think of a more appropriate response from a commercial. If I teach them nothing else in life, they should learn that watching commercials is too high of a price to pay for watching TV.
There are better things to do with their time if that is the only way to watch TV!
The other is 18 months old... let's let him learn to start talking a little better first... ok?I would agree.
But let's face it...
Every now and then, it is ok to watch a little TV.
Just really, really conservative.
Ignore me... I'm confused...
(getting late in the week)
no, not a typo or exaggeration
Just really, really conservative.
So what if some thugs make you withdraw money from the ATM at gunpoint? Did you shred your ATM card, too?
;-)
Actually...
I don't do banking over the internet... or have an ATM card.
Mainly becasue ATMs don't let me withdraw as much cash as I want... and I'm not willing to pay a fee for using one.
So, every now and then... I go to the bank (usually to deposit a check for a contract gig) and take out a couple of thousand in 20's... then I stick them in the fire safe at home.
Probably not as uncommon as your (somewhat) sarcastic remark may imply...
(I do carry a debit card tho, mostly for Costco)
If the person didn't want to give the information over the phone to a person that had called them, we were instructed to give them the company's main 800 number, and a reference number so they could verify that it was legitimate. In three months I did not have to give this information out a single time.
Yeah, I don't trust you... so... let me call you back on the number you just gave me to make sure you are who you say you are.
Don't hold your breath!
On the other hand, this sort of thing could also seriously undermine the confidence that people have in online transactions and the like, so I can't help but wonder if maybe it isn't shortsighted not to just take the hit.
A few years ago I would probably agree with you 100%.
Now, I'm a bit more jaded. I simply don't think that people will get any smarter about this. So... the problem isn't short term.
With that in mind, I don't think banks should let people use their service online until they've passed some kind of test showing they are qualified to do so.
But that is just my cynical view...
Actually, they are smart enough to know they are watching a specific show... and that they aren't sitting there to have shit^H^H commercials stuffed into their head.
And, you can't always send the kids outside either.
There is only one of me... mom works too... and someone has to cook dinner.
I can't cook dinner and watch the kids at the same time.
And neither can you.
So, yeah. Sometimes they get to watch the tube. If you don't like it... tough.
They aren't your kids.