Its not a straight line, its a circle. Right beside socialism you'll find the extreme free markets. The only difference is that its the boards of a few huge corporations that set the five year plan economy and dictate the rules, on the merits that nobody will have the resources to compete with them, since they could very easily lock out everyone else from the market. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?
Human rights apply to sentient beings and those well underway to become sentient beings.
Any single cell in your body has the same potential to develop (through technological aid, and the aid of a womb) into a sentient being as the unborn clump of cells that eventually develop into a child by simply containing the necessary DNA. How can you resolve such ethics when you 'abort' thousands of potential people every time you shower? Where do you draw the line? Who are you to force people to go through the pain of having an unwanted pregnancy on the merits of protecting what amounts to being no more 'human' than the average amount of cells youll find in a pillow?
As for taxpayers paying, I think Id like to get back what the average taxpayer has paid for others religious beliefs the last couple of thousand years, thankyouverymuch. Christians have no buisness talking about taxpayers money for the next few milennia.
Oh, that is such a cheap excuse. Giulianis opinions are obviously narrowminded attempts to enforce his idea of art, while in truth he doesnt care the least about the money. All art is objectionable for someone. Id object strongly about my taxpayer money going to support any religious art. However, I believe in freedom of expression has precedence over my opinions, and if any taxpayer money goes to pay for art, I expect it to be done fairly without any regard to who may find it offensive, wether me or anyone else. Giuliani is just another hypocritical liar.
Well, nobody has died unless you count the guy who offed himself. Disgusting show. Disgusting people. Of course, it shows all the petty stupidity of human beings in all its pathetic gory detail, but then again, thats nothing new. It just leaves you with a warm fuzzy feeling that humans should be exterminated as vermin.
Yes, the only actual advantage is the lower latency in establishing connections and general network latency which you'll shave about 100 milliseconds ping time due to the entirely digital line. That makes a significant difference for online games, of which the Linux crowd will be fairly small.
For me, I dont have a problem with modem connections to the ISP, first connection always works, so I dont find that a bother, and the five seconds waiting are an insignificant amount compared to the total connection time, since I usually dont disconnect. And with the small speed difference compared to 56K modems, I just cant see a reason to spend an extra euro on ISDN. Sure, Id take it if it was offered for no extra charge, but it does cost extra, and it will be totally obsolete with the upcoming alternatives in a short while, so why bother?
This is, of course, a criticism against the less-than-gifted people at the telecom companies. ISDN _could_ have been a great technology if they had pushed it three or four years ago, and had a lower over time connection cost than ordinary phonelines. As it is, as a barely above average technology mainly aimed at a miniscule market of small companies and badly located network gamers its a total waste.
And, of course, the original point of Redhat having trouble because linux people use ISDN because theyre high-tech geeks is pretty much moot. The only ones I know using ISDN are a few of the bosses at work, who basically have gotten an ISDN router put at their house so the network people dont have to bother with their calls, and companies connecting to corporate network. The real geeks who care either get together and share a dedicated line divided with a router at someones place, or have ADSL or cable. All of which use dedicated routing equipment and wont make a difference between any Linux distributions.
Why would anyone install ISDN? At least in Sweden, it isnt cheaper than an ordinary modem, and its not even significantly faster. Pay even a low installation fee plus isdn router or card, for a 10-20% speed gain and no price gain (or use both channels and double your costs... woohoo), with a technology thats virtually dead because its window of opportunity has been completely squandered by our dear internet wannabe telcos? No thankyou. Ill go for ADSL or cable or something that may actually make a difference on both.
Um, in Europe at least we often impose _serious_ fines on companies using illegal ways to manipulate the market. Had Microsoft been a european company they'd probably have been fined a couple of billion dollars years ago. As is now they're just under investigation, and hopefully the US will deal with its own shady buisnesses before the rest of the world has to clean up the trash.
Except, of course, a lot, or most movies aimed at that age actually manage to have more plot, more interesting acting and better character development.
The plot "'Democratically elected' Queen escapes from the 'evil' guys imposing trade sanctions against a world where half the population is treated like dirt (not that I can really see the particular 'evil' in that, but they wear black so they must be the bad guys). Kid accidentaly presses the wrong button and the good guys win." doesnt impress even a 10 year old. The addition of longwinded CGI and politics and the kids would probably enjoy staying home playing computer games just as much.
And for the money spent he could have had 20 'average quality' movies made, rather than a B movie on a huge budget.
As it has just recently gone up in some places in Europe I saw it a couple of weeks ago. Having read the slashdot comments I was not expecting much. And seeing it I was rather unmoved. An accidental victory by undeveloped characters over virtually gagged 'supposedly' bad guys (during the whole movie I dont think I ever saw them do anything that would remotely classify them as being bad, or build any antipathy. Upholding trade sanctions against a world treating half its population like dirt doesnt exactly strike me as being particularly vile)? 'Senator, our people are dying!' What people? The 20 well treated pilots in the hangar? Im not impressed.
Yeah, the special effects were pretty nice. Yeah yeah whatever. Seen it before. Done that. Fer chrissakes, get on with the film, I know you can make animated fish after the first one.
To sum it up, the average Disney cartoon has more storyline, philosophical content and character development.
The first two films were pretty good. In the third they should've fried the bears with flamethrowers. In this one they might as well have skipped the actors and sound and just run a demo of how to make alien masks and do CGI (and shown it to Paramount). The next one Im not even going to see unless it gets complete rave reviews on Slashdot. Id rather spend my money renting sci-fi B movies, which actually tend to be better than expected at times.
First of all, who is going to watch the porn? There isnt any sure way of scanning for specific kinds of images, which means someone is going to have to check it. I hardly think that your job description includes a requirement that you watch material that you may find disturbing. Or maybe the HR department is too lazy to get their own porn and want you to collect it for them?
Waste of company resources isnt a good reason either. Autoscan and delete any MS Word attachments would probably save more wasted resources in the average company.
Frankly, you can get a job at a better place. There are plenty of companies that value ethics and a respect for privacy. A sysadmin that has no compunctions about reading other peoples mail is someone who will just as well read the bosses mail and find out how to use it for his own gain (stock tips?). The only legit reason for checking mail is when someone is under suspicion of a crime, and in that case Id just check the logs to trace the offending mails, and just in the worst case actually scan the mail boxes.
Sure you do. The same copyright law applies to GPL code as it does to proprietary code, with or without sourcecode available. If you're vulnerable to a copyright violation because you havent done a clean-room reimplementation it doesnt make any difference wether the original code is GPL or something else.
This is not a new problem, since for example GCC includes code into the program (crtbegin.o, etc). In gcc it's solved by a license exception in the code that gets included in the output. Check the gcc sources for appropriate wording.
Oh, hooray, and how long will it take to move the data from that drive to the other? A week? With platter->bus transfer speeds not changing markedly, you get huge problems with data transfer speeds on multiuser system where you have random access to data on the device. 4 2 GB SCSI disks give 4 times the performance of 1 8 GB disk. Instead of larger but constantly slower disks due to more data per disk, it would be nice with cheaper or faster disks instead...
And this is different from the rest of the $500M 'Our buisness idea is to sell get-them-yourself tuna sandwiches, but over the I-n-t-e-r-n-e-t' tech stocks on Nasdaq in what way?
Tech stocks have long since gone from serious investment to pyramid scheme anyway, and no serious investor would recommend any tech stocks. In the even of a crash, there isnt any solidity in the companies, most is just overhyped expectations of a rosy future, 'value' that will just disappear without any assets to sell off. They'll even lose most of their human capital since being paid in stock options useful for wallpaper isnt what keeps people around.
Compared to most, Redhat would actually be a good choice. They dont make a huge loss, they have employees who may be motivated by other than stock options, they're fairly knowledgable about their market and they've thought through the buisness model.
But either way, if you're into tech stocks you're into gambling and pyramid schemes. And in that context, Redhat's a good choice.
On the other hand, if you buy it, you get three months installation support. As you say, it's the people who dont know linux who will pay $80. The same people who think the community is full of bull-shit when we say it's easy to install, just ftp it and go...
Me, I'll pay every once in a couple of versions to show support, but the rest I'll just ftp or copy.
The problem still remains that Qt 2.0, while free, isnt GPL compatible, which means that all authors have to consent to a license addition to allow linking against Qt.
Of course it isnt the wrong way if you can accept the performance hit, but if you're after blazing fast performance then you should just use plain files. The overhead from dynamic generation will be far higher than the overhead from a generic filesystem. It will also make any form of caching far less effective, both client side and server side, further reducing performance.
This was about performance, not usability and features:).
No, a webserver does not need any lowlevel kernel access to speed it up. Apache can easily saturate most connections without a problem.
If you have performance problems with your webserver you're either doing it The Wrong Way, with user customizations, dynamic content generation, etc, in which case lowlevel access wouldn't help one bit, or you can simply place a reverse webcache in front of the webserver, which is actually optimized for serving plain pages as fast as possible.
Sure you can optimize a bit and get better results on benchmarks. But the idea of kernel access simply sacrifices stability and simplicity for no practical gains.
Reporters supposed to get the facts straight? Heh. In what century? Facts and reality dont sell. Checking takes time and is expensive. To get a profit generating media company you make sure the journalists agitate, ignore the facts, and preferably make up their own stories that sell better.
Well, not quite. Section 2b reads as you bolded, but IMO, that means that you have to distribute the work under the _terms_ of the GPL, not under the GPL in itself. That means that you can distribute BSD code combined with GPL code, and as long as they are distinct (different source files, for example), you can separate the BSD code later again and not be subject to the GPL. The combined work has to be under the terms of the GPL, but as long as any alternate licenses do not conflict with those terms they can retain their original license.
But that doesnt really affect the point. If you choose to distribute code under GPL, to which you retain copyright, nothing prevents you from selling that code under a different license to someone else. As copyright holder you can license it however you want how many times you want to whoever you want.
Also, you should be careful with how you would write such a license that you are considering. The most tricky part is what constitutes use in a commercial product. Is it if your code is sold? Would that include CDROM distributors? Not-for-profit organizations who sell CD's at cost? Web based advertizement schemes charging nothing for the code? Only proprietary use? Or opensource use too? It's very easy to end up with a license that does not allow distribution at all due to what constitutes selling the code.
Well, I wouldn't really call that a FreeBSD like license, since the right to commercially use the code is the foundation in the FreeBSD license idea. More like some combination of GPL and FreeBSD with more restrictions.
The FreeBSD license allows anyone to use the code any way they want. The GPL prevents proprietary use of the code, but does not prevent inclusion into commercial products. The GPL does not prevent you from making a separate license deal if you wish to sell proprietary rights to companies you like tho.
Also, you do not need a precedent, this is implicit from your ownership of the copyright.
Your idea is good, it's just sorta redunant; both the points are already implicit through copyright law. If you release code under GPL, you still retain those rights, with the only difference that people who will abide by the GPL have the rights set forth in that license.
The GPL certifies a program as anti-proprietary as opposed to free, and I would appreciate people using the term 'anti-proprietary' to describe GPL'd software instead of 'free' -- Free software is Free to be USED, ABUSED, and TAKEN. It is free. Whilst atempting to get around that fact of nature, you will only end up getting in your way, as the GPL is beginning to.
You miss what is free here. Compare 'A Free person is Free to be USED, ABUSED, and TAKEN.'. Freedom in the GPL sense does not mean your freedom, it means the freedom of the code.
Well, that's pretty much the way patents work in the rest of the world. Software is equated with other works of art, such as literature and music. Copyright law applies, but you cant patent it.
Hmmm. My uptime on that system has been a source of pride, so I rather agree with Alan Cox that it should be fixed. Oh, well, the system needed an upgrade anyway, and now I'll probably have to reboot or strange things may happen.
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Its not a straight line, its a circle. Right beside socialism you'll find the extreme free markets. The only difference is that its the boards of a few huge corporations that set the five year plan economy and dictate the rules, on the merits that nobody will have the resources to compete with them, since they could very easily lock out everyone else from the market. Does that give you the warm fuzzies?
Human rights apply to sentient beings and those well underway to become sentient beings.
Any single cell in your body has the same potential to develop (through technological aid, and the aid of a womb) into a sentient being as the unborn clump of cells that eventually develop into a child by simply containing the necessary DNA. How can you resolve such ethics when you 'abort' thousands of potential people every time you shower? Where do you draw the line? Who are you to force people to go through the pain of having an unwanted pregnancy on the merits of protecting what amounts to being no more 'human' than the average amount of cells youll find in a pillow?
As for taxpayers paying, I think Id like to get back what the average taxpayer has paid for others religious beliefs the last couple of thousand years, thankyouverymuch. Christians have no buisness talking about taxpayers money for the next few milennia.
Oh, that is such a cheap excuse. Giulianis opinions are obviously narrowminded attempts to enforce his idea of art, while in truth he doesnt care the least about the money. All art is objectionable for someone. Id object strongly about my taxpayer money going to support any religious art. However, I believe in freedom of expression has precedence over my opinions, and if any taxpayer money goes to pay for art, I expect it to be done fairly without any regard to who may find it offensive, wether me or anyone else. Giuliani is just another hypocritical liar.
Well, nobody has died unless you count the guy who offed himself. Disgusting show. Disgusting people. Of course, it shows all the petty stupidity of human beings in all its pathetic gory detail, but then again, thats nothing new. It just leaves you with a warm fuzzy feeling that humans should be exterminated as vermin.
Yes, the only actual advantage is the lower latency in establishing connections and general network latency which you'll shave about 100 milliseconds ping time due to the entirely digital line. That makes a significant difference for online games, of which the Linux crowd will be fairly small.
For me, I dont have a problem with modem connections to the ISP, first connection always works, so I dont find that a bother, and the five seconds waiting are an insignificant amount compared to the total connection time, since I usually dont disconnect. And with the small speed difference compared to 56K modems, I just cant see a reason to spend an extra euro on ISDN. Sure, Id take it if it was offered for no extra charge, but it does cost extra, and it will be totally obsolete with the upcoming alternatives in a short while, so why bother?
This is, of course, a criticism against the less-than-gifted people at the telecom companies. ISDN _could_ have been a great technology if they had pushed it three or four years ago, and had a lower over time connection cost than ordinary phonelines. As it is, as a barely above average technology mainly aimed at a miniscule market of small companies and badly located network gamers its a total waste.
And, of course, the original point of Redhat having trouble because linux people use ISDN because theyre high-tech geeks is pretty much moot. The only ones I know using ISDN are a few of the bosses at work, who basically have gotten an ISDN router put at their house so the network people dont have to bother with their calls, and companies connecting to corporate network. The real geeks who care either get together and share a dedicated line divided with a router at someones place, or have ADSL or cable. All of which use dedicated routing equipment and wont make a difference between any Linux distributions.
Why would anyone install ISDN? At least in Sweden, it isnt cheaper than an ordinary modem, and its not even significantly faster. Pay even a low installation fee plus isdn router or card, for a 10-20% speed gain and no price gain (or use both channels and double your costs... woohoo), with a technology thats virtually dead because its window of opportunity has been completely squandered by our dear internet wannabe telcos? No thankyou. Ill go for ADSL or cable or something that may actually make a difference on both.
Um, in Europe at least we often impose _serious_ fines on companies using illegal ways to manipulate the market. Had Microsoft been a european company they'd probably have been fined a couple of billion dollars years ago. As is now they're just under investigation, and hopefully the US will deal with its own shady buisnesses before the rest of the world has to clean up the trash.
Except, of course, a lot, or most movies aimed at that age actually manage to have more plot, more interesting acting and better character development.
The plot "'Democratically elected' Queen escapes from the 'evil' guys imposing trade sanctions against a world where half the population is treated like dirt (not that I can really see the particular 'evil' in that, but they wear black so they must be the bad guys). Kid accidentaly presses the wrong button and the good guys win." doesnt impress even a 10 year old. The addition of longwinded CGI and politics and the kids would probably enjoy staying home playing computer games just as much.
And for the money spent he could have had 20 'average quality' movies made, rather than a B movie on a huge budget.
As it has just recently gone up in some places in Europe I saw it a couple of weeks ago. Having read the slashdot comments I was not expecting much. And seeing it I was rather unmoved. An accidental victory by undeveloped characters over virtually gagged 'supposedly' bad guys (during the whole movie I dont think I ever saw them do anything that would remotely classify them as being bad, or build any antipathy. Upholding trade sanctions against a world treating half its population like dirt doesnt exactly strike me as being particularly vile)? 'Senator, our people are dying!' What people? The 20 well treated pilots in the hangar? Im not impressed.
Yeah, the special effects were pretty nice. Yeah yeah whatever. Seen it before. Done that. Fer chrissakes, get on with the film, I know you can make animated fish after the first one.
To sum it up, the average Disney cartoon has more storyline, philosophical content and character development.
The first two films were pretty good. In the third they should've fried the bears with flamethrowers. In this one they might as well have skipped the actors and sound and just run a demo of how to make alien masks and do CGI (and shown it to Paramount). The next one Im not even going to see unless it gets complete rave reviews on Slashdot. Id rather spend my money renting sci-fi B movies, which actually tend to be better than expected at times.
First of all, who is going to watch the porn? There isnt any sure way of scanning for specific kinds of images, which means someone is going to have to check it. I hardly think that your job description includes a requirement that you watch material that you may find disturbing. Or maybe the HR department is too lazy to get their own porn and want you to collect it for them?
Waste of company resources isnt a good reason either. Autoscan and delete any MS Word attachments would probably save more wasted resources in the average company.
Frankly, you can get a job at a better place. There are plenty of companies that value ethics and a respect for privacy. A sysadmin that has no compunctions about reading other peoples mail is someone who will just as well read the bosses mail and find out how to use it for his own gain (stock tips?). The only legit reason for checking mail is when someone is under suspicion of a crime, and in that case Id just check the logs to trace the offending mails, and just in the worst case actually scan the mail boxes.
Sure you do. The same copyright law applies to GPL code as it does to proprietary code, with or without sourcecode available. If you're vulnerable to a copyright violation because you havent done a clean-room reimplementation it doesnt make any difference wether the original code is GPL or something else.
IANAL. Whatever.
This is not a new problem, since for example GCC includes code into the program (crtbegin.o, etc). In gcc it's solved by a license exception in the code that gets included in the output. Check the gcc sources for appropriate wording.
Oh, hooray, and how long will it take to move the data from that drive to the other? A week? With platter->bus transfer speeds not changing markedly, you get huge problems with data transfer speeds on multiuser system where you have random access to data on the device. 4 2 GB SCSI disks give 4 times the performance of 1 8 GB disk. Instead of larger but constantly slower disks due to more data per disk, it would be nice with cheaper or faster disks instead...
And this is different from the rest of the $500M 'Our buisness idea is to sell get-them-yourself tuna sandwiches, but over the I-n-t-e-r-n-e-t' tech stocks on Nasdaq in what way?
Tech stocks have long since gone from serious investment to pyramid scheme anyway, and no serious investor would recommend any tech stocks. In the even of a crash, there isnt any solidity in the companies, most is just overhyped expectations of a rosy future, 'value' that will just disappear without any assets to sell off. They'll even lose most of their human capital since being paid in stock options useful for wallpaper isnt what keeps people around.
Compared to most, Redhat would actually be a good choice. They dont make a huge loss, they have employees who may be motivated by other than stock options, they're fairly knowledgable about their market and they've thought through the buisness model.
But either way, if you're into tech stocks you're into gambling and pyramid schemes. And in that context, Redhat's a good choice.
On the other hand, if you buy it, you get three months installation support. As you say, it's the people who dont know linux who will pay $80. The same people who think the community is full of bull-shit when we say it's easy to install, just ftp it and go...
Me, I'll pay every once in a couple of versions to show support, but the rest I'll just ftp or copy.
The problem still remains that Qt 2.0, while free, isnt GPL compatible, which means that all authors have to consent to a license addition to allow linking against Qt.
Of course it isnt the wrong way if you can accept the performance hit, but if you're after blazing fast performance then you should just use plain files. The overhead from dynamic generation will be far higher than the overhead from a generic filesystem. It will also make any form of caching far less effective, both client side and server side, further reducing performance.
:).
This was about performance, not usability and features
No, a webserver does not need any lowlevel kernel access to speed it up. Apache can easily saturate most connections without a problem.
If you have performance problems with your webserver you're either doing it The Wrong Way, with user customizations, dynamic content generation, etc, in which case lowlevel access wouldn't help one bit, or you can simply place a reverse webcache in front of the webserver, which is actually optimized for serving plain pages as fast as possible.
Sure you can optimize a bit and get better results on benchmarks. But the idea of kernel access simply sacrifices stability and simplicity for no practical gains.
Reporters supposed to get the facts straight? Heh. In what century? Facts and reality dont sell. Checking takes time and is expensive. To get a profit generating media company you make sure the journalists agitate, ignore the facts, and preferably make up their own stories that sell better.
Well, not quite. Section 2b reads as you bolded, but IMO, that means that you have to distribute the work under the _terms_ of the GPL, not under the GPL in itself. That means that you can distribute BSD code combined with GPL code, and as long as they are distinct (different source files, for example), you can separate the BSD code later again and not be subject to the GPL. The combined work has to be under the terms of the GPL, but as long as any alternate licenses do not conflict with those terms they can retain their original license.
But that doesnt really affect the point. If you choose to distribute code under GPL, to which you retain copyright, nothing prevents you from selling that code under a different license to someone else. As copyright holder you can license it however you want how many times you want to whoever you want.
Also, you should be careful with how you would write such a license that you are considering. The most tricky part is what constitutes use in a commercial product. Is it if your code is sold? Would that include CDROM distributors? Not-for-profit organizations who sell CD's at cost? Web based advertizement schemes charging nothing for the code? Only proprietary use? Or opensource use too? It's very easy to end up with a license that does not allow distribution at all due to what constitutes selling the code.
Oh, and IANAL, anyway.
You must not be looking much then.
/usr/local/bin/* | grep ORBit.so| wc -l
$ ldd
60
$
panel applets, configuration applets, etc.
Well, I wouldn't really call that a FreeBSD like license, since the right to commercially use the code is the foundation in the FreeBSD license idea. More like some combination of GPL and FreeBSD with more restrictions.
The FreeBSD license allows anyone to use the code any way they want. The GPL prevents proprietary use of the code, but does not prevent inclusion into commercial products. The GPL does not prevent you from making a separate license deal if you wish to sell proprietary rights to companies you like tho.
Also, you do not need a precedent, this is implicit from your ownership of the copyright.
Your idea is good, it's just sorta redunant; both the points are already implicit through copyright law. If you release code under GPL, you still retain those rights, with the only difference that people who will abide by the GPL have the rights set forth in that license.
IANAL, whatever.
The GPL certifies a program as anti-proprietary as opposed to free, and I would appreciate people using the term 'anti-proprietary' to describe GPL'd software instead of 'free' -- Free software is Free to be USED, ABUSED, and TAKEN. It is free. Whilst atempting to get around that fact of nature, you will only end up getting in your way, as the GPL is beginning to.
You miss what is free here. Compare 'A Free person is Free to be USED, ABUSED, and TAKEN.'. Freedom in the GPL sense does not mean your freedom, it means the freedom of the code.
Well, that's pretty much the way patents work in the rest of the world. Software is equated with other works of art, such as literature and music. Copyright law applies, but you cant patent it.
Hmmm. My uptime on that system has been a source of pride, so I rather agree with Alan Cox that it should be fixed. Oh, well, the system needed an upgrade anyway, and now I'll probably have to reboot or strange things may happen.