Exactly. And this is precisely my point. In a sense, every machine is a multi-user machine; applications often run as their own user with no privileges or root directory. But on a Windows box, everything runs as ROOT or SYSTEM. And alot of applications won't install or run unless they have ROOT privileges. This in general is just a bad idea.
How can we be elitist now? Easy. I run Firefox on Linux. No problem here. Hijack my browser all you want, you're sandboxed. This is still only an issue with Firefox running on Windows. Which again is an issue with the security of Windows.
This seems to be par for the course for ANY application running on Windows. Hackers are now targeting the applications to get to the OS rather than the OS itself. Just about all Windows applications can be comprimised and have been in recent news. This is as much a problem with the applications as it is with the OS. If you application isn't properly sandboxed in the OS, and if it has too high of a privilege level to begin with, then any explot is potentially dangerous to the OS.
The OS should be built with good sandboxed privileges to avoid for bad application development. And then everyone could act as elite as us Linux users when things like this occur.
You sir are brainless. Torvalds still reserves the right to reject certain things that get into the kernel and often does... regardless of whether it gets past other kernel maintainers. Try reading the kernel mailing list sometime.
The kernel is maintained by Linus and a group of others. Linus has final signoff on all kernel updates. You cannot get something into the kernel without him approving it. You also cannot distribute Linux without the trademark as well.
Speaking as a Ubuntu user and a Firefox user... everyone needs to grow the fuck up. It's their project and just like Linus wants to check all things that go into the kernel, they have the same right. I don't see Debian bitching about Linus and his need to trademark Linux. So why the hypocrisy?
Untrue. Microsoft has used them in displays for animation, Japan has several large billboards that use animation in them. It depends on the backend. If you are using 'gumsticks' then yes, they will be slower. But I supect that Apple would through their graphics knowledge into the mix and have a similar refrsh rate to other device. Plus the battery consumption is STILL alot smaller than OLED and other screens.
Better yet, I want the iPaper... en e-ink device designed by apple that can display videos, view books and newspapers on and with a collapsible screen that is larger than the device itself. It's about time that e-ink displays be adopted by mainstream.
1. Marvel is evil. They refuse to pay artists, screwed Jack Kirby (and his widow) and have gone bankrupt more times thatn I have fingers on one hand leaving a slough of unpaid debts to artists and writers. 2. Microsoft is evil. I don't think explanation is needed in this regard. The fact that a Microsoft lobbyist is now the ambassador to the EU and is lobbying them to 'be nicer' to Microsoft proves that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Now take these two companies with little to no moral values and put them together. The fact that they are pandering in 13-year old boys dreams makes them even more repulsive and scary. If you've got a dollar, you are their friend. But if you have a dollar and aren't buying their product, you are their enemy.
I'm a firm believer that most people act in the best intrests of others
This goes against social order. People act in the best interest of THEMSELVES FIRST, and if the individual isn't sociopathic, they excercise empathy towards others and generally will act in others best interests unless it impacts their own self interests anbd goals.
So applied to a corporation, the corporation is always going to do what IT THINKS is in ITS best interest first and then, if they feel any empathy towards you, you may get treated well by default.
Now knowing that techies in general DESPISE end users and think them all stupid (it's true), you can assume that Microsoft has lost some empathy towards its end users and will only due whats best for them as long as it directly benefits Microsoft.
As a nice comparison, Open Source has nothing to gain except for adoption rate. And the only way to increase adoption rate is to PANDER to end users.
Ignore him. He has to say things like that or Steve will throw a chair at him. Poorr Microsoft has be traumatized into believeing anything their marketing department spits out. Probably stills runs Microsoft Bob too.
I use adept. It's a package manager built into Ubuntu. You can also use Synaptic which is equally good. They HELP loads. Then one you get those installed, search for some nice (preferrably stable) repositories and add them to your config. One nice thing about these package managers is they not only handle all dependencies for you but they also give DESCRIPTIONS of the programs so you can get a better idea of what you are downloading. Plus they also tag them in categories so you can more easily search.
My mom loads tons of pictures off her camera and I have them load into picassa by default. I also showed her how to use GIMP to edit and play with the if she wants to. She's practically in heaven. Unfortunately, her email is still getting alot of spam so I have to tweak spamassassin on her machine.
There is also a new wireless tool for Ubuntu just released. And tweaking for the printer can be a challenege but Ubuntu is perhaps the easiest printer management system I have seen. In my office here at work,I run Kubuntu on my desktop and can get my printers configured before even the windows people when they change locations and IP's of networked printers. Heh. They usually come to me to see how I did it first.:)
I got sick of answering my moms problems with viruses and spyware on her windows machine that I finally switched her to Ubuntu. It detected her scanner, her digital cammera and everything right off the bat. She's 65 and she says she hasn't had a single problem with her computer and that it works great!! She h0onestly says it's the best system she has ever had and ever more impressive, I didn't have time to train her on anything and she has pisked it all up wonderfully on her own. She understands Open Office and doesn't notice the difference between that and wrod.
Honestly, for everyone but gamers, Linux meets their needs. For graphics developers, Macs meet their needs;)
Te marketing blitz begins. Worlds most secure browse... WHAT?? The patched patched we patched and pacted again only to have to patch the patch we patched needs patched. Save it for Vista Serice Pack 5!!
Tell that to the Microsoft zealots.:) Tey lov to point their fingers whe Linux people are being biased but just put their hands over their ears ad go 'LALALALALALALALAL' when you start talking about Microsoft security:)
If you build it secure, then you won't have to bundle antivirus, antispyware, etc. I think the ultimate FU to the EU and security sotware manufacturers would be if they could make it secure by default. Then additional products would purely be optional... including their own. Ah... dare to dream.
Actually untrue. I run City of heroes on Cedega and get a higher framerate than when running it under Windows on the same box. Plus now that OpenGL has passed hands, they are putting more effort into it. And aside from that, raytracing hasn't taken off yet but can greatly increase game performance so that's anyone game at this point.
Take a page from software developers... There was a time when it was impossible to get a job working on a kernel until open source came along. Open source has enabled alot of developers to cut their teeth and prove their skills to be able to get a job.
You can always develop for Linux (even a paid for project) using openGL and should your project go well, you will get the attention you deserve. It may even be possible that you could start your own company should it get popular enough.
It's a great wayto cut your teeth and eventually get whatever project you are looking to start off the ground.
Yes... trusted computing. Trust that they will leave holes in the software. Trust it will get hacked. Trust that they won't patch until ordered by a government entity to do so. That's trusted Computing. What did you think they meant?
I refuse to give away my software. If you won't pay for it, you won't get it without being a criminal and stealing it. In which case I can come down on you like a ton of bricks. I will not comprimise on this issue.
Not that big of a deal. If you don't give it away, someone somewhere will just create a clone and give THEIR version away for free. And millions of open source developers looking at and developing on that FREE code will (given time) make yours obsolete.
However if you are able to see past the limited scope of the current proprietary software business model and are able to see the software support and services model, you would see that giving away software for free and being the main repository and supporter of said software makes you the sole person for support contracts, books and other other support services.
Giving away software doesn't mean giving away your livelihood... unless your code just plain sucks ass.
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Exactly. And this is precisely my point. In a sense, every machine is a multi-user machine; applications often run as their own user with no privileges or root directory. But on a Windows box, everything runs as ROOT or SYSTEM. And alot of applications won't install or run unless they have ROOT privileges. This in general is just a bad idea.
True. And that is truly the worst any exploitable application should do.
How can we be elitist now? Easy. I run Firefox on Linux. No problem here. Hijack my browser all you want, you're sandboxed. This is still only an issue with Firefox running on Windows. Which again is an issue with the security of Windows.
This seems to be par for the course for ANY application running on Windows. Hackers are now targeting the applications to get to the OS rather than the OS itself. Just about all Windows applications can be comprimised and have been in recent news. This is as much a problem with the applications as it is with the OS. If you application isn't properly sandboxed in the OS, and if it has too high of a privilege level to begin with, then any explot is potentially dangerous to the OS.
The OS should be built with good sandboxed privileges to avoid for bad application development. And then everyone could act as elite as us Linux users when things like this occur.
You sir are brainless. Torvalds still reserves the right to reject certain things that get into the kernel and often does... regardless of whether it gets past other kernel maintainers. Try reading the kernel mailing list sometime.
The kernel is maintained by Linus and a group of others. Linus has final signoff on all kernel updates. You cannot get something into the kernel without him approving it. You also cannot distribute Linux without the trademark as well.
Speaking as a Ubuntu user and a Firefox user... everyone needs to grow the fuck up. It's their project and just like Linus wants to check all things that go into the kernel, they have the same right. I don't see Debian bitching about Linus and his need to trademark Linux. So why the hypocrisy?
Untrue. Microsoft has used them in displays for animation, Japan has several large billboards that use animation in them. It depends on the backend. If you are using 'gumsticks' then yes, they will be slower. But I supect that Apple would through their graphics knowledge into the mix and have a similar refrsh rate to other device. Plus the battery consumption is STILL alot smaller than OLED and other screens.
Better yet, I want the iPaper... en e-ink device designed by apple that can display videos, view books and newspapers on and with a collapsible screen that is larger than the device itself. It's about time that e-ink displays be adopted by mainstream.
There are no stupid questions... only stupid answers.
1. Marvel is evil. They refuse to pay artists, screwed Jack Kirby (and his widow) and have gone bankrupt more times thatn I have fingers on one hand leaving a slough of unpaid debts to artists and writers.
2. Microsoft is evil. I don't think explanation is needed in this regard. The fact that a Microsoft lobbyist is now the ambassador to the EU and is lobbying them to 'be nicer' to Microsoft proves that absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Now take these two companies with little to no moral values and put them together. The fact that they are pandering in 13-year old boys dreams makes them even more repulsive and scary. If you've got a dollar, you are their friend. But if you have a dollar and aren't buying their product, you are their enemy.
This goes against social order. People act in the best interest of THEMSELVES FIRST, and if the individual isn't sociopathic, they excercise empathy towards others and generally will act in others best interests unless it impacts their own self interests anbd goals.
So applied to a corporation, the corporation is always going to do what IT THINKS is in ITS best interest first and then, if they feel any empathy towards you, you may get treated well by default.
Now knowing that techies in general DESPISE end users and think them all stupid (it's true), you can assume that Microsoft has lost some empathy towards its end users and will only due whats best for them as long as it directly benefits Microsoft.
As a nice comparison, Open Source has nothing to gain except for adoption rate. And the only way to increase adoption rate is to PANDER to end users.
Yes he did... and thats why he created another language. *buh dum dum*
:)
I'll be here all week.
Ignore him. He has to say things like that or Steve will throw a chair at him. Poorr Microsoft has be traumatized into believeing anything their marketing department spits out. Probably stills runs Microsoft Bob too.
I use adept. It's a package manager built into Ubuntu. You can also use Synaptic which is equally good. They HELP loads. Then one you get those installed, search for some nice (preferrably stable) repositories and add them to your config. One nice thing about these package managers is they not only handle all dependencies for you but they also give DESCRIPTIONS of the programs so you can get a better idea of what you are downloading. Plus they also tag them in categories so you can more easily search.
My mom loads tons of pictures off her camera and I have them load into picassa by default. I also showed her how to use GIMP to edit and play with the if she wants to. She's practically in heaven. Unfortunately, her email is still getting alot of spam so I have to tweak spamassassin on her machine.
,I run Kubuntu on my desktop and can get my printers configured before even the windows people when they change locations and IP's of networked printers. Heh. They usually come to me to see how I did it first. :)
There is also a new wireless tool for Ubuntu just released. And tweaking for the printer can be a challenege but Ubuntu is perhaps the easiest printer management system I have seen. In my office here at work
I got sick of answering my moms problems with viruses and spyware on her windows machine that I finally switched her to Ubuntu. It detected her scanner, her digital cammera and everything right off the bat. She's 65 and she says she hasn't had a single problem with her computer and that it works great!! She h0onestly says it's the best system she has ever had and ever more impressive, I didn't have time to train her on anything and she has pisked it all up wonderfully on her own. She understands Open Office and doesn't notice the difference between that and wrod.
;)
Honestly, for everyone but gamers, Linux meets their needs. For graphics developers, Macs meet their needs
Te marketing blitz begins. Worlds most secure browse... WHAT?? The patched patched we patched and pacted again only to have to patch the patch we patched needs patched. Save it for Vista Serice Pack 5!!
Tell that to the Microsoft zealots. :) :)
Tey lov to point their fingers whe Linux people are being biased but just put their hands over their ears ad go 'LALALALALALALALAL' when you start talking about Microsoft security
If you build it secure, then you won't have to bundle antivirus, antispyware, etc. I think the ultimate FU to the EU and security sotware manufacturers would be if they could make it secure by default. Then additional products would purely be optional... including their own.
Ah... dare to dream.
Why? Did Steve find where we hid the chairs?
Actually untrue. I run City of heroes on Cedega and get a higher framerate than when running it under Windows on the same box. Plus now that OpenGL has passed hands, they are putting more effort into it. And aside from that, raytracing hasn't taken off yet but can greatly increase game performance so that's anyone game at this point.
Take a page from software developers...
There was a time when it was impossible to get a job working on a kernel until open source came along. Open source has enabled alot of developers to cut their teeth and prove their skills to be able to get a job.
You can always develop for Linux (even a paid for project) using openGL and should your project go well, you will get the attention you deserve. It may even be possible that you could start your own company should it get popular enough.
It's a great wayto cut your teeth and eventually get whatever project you are looking to start off the ground.
Yes ... trusted computing. Trust that they will leave holes in the software. Trust it will get hacked. Trust that they won't patch until ordered by a government entity to do so. That's trusted Computing. What did you think they meant?
Can't wait for the first messenger worm to start reporting everyone on your buddies list as sexual predators.
Not that big of a deal. If you don't give it away, someone somewhere will just create a clone and give THEIR version away for free. And millions of open source developers looking at and developing on that FREE code will (given time) make yours obsolete.
However if you are able to see past the limited scope of the current proprietary software business model and are able to see the software support and services model, you would see that giving away software for free and being the main repository and supporter of said software makes you the sole person for support contracts, books and other other support services.
Giving away software doesn't mean giving away your livelihood... unless your code just plain sucks ass.