Darwin has worked on intel hardware since it was first released; you can add a GUI to it (X-Windows, whatever) and run a great deal of Mac software on it, so what you hear on this forum about "never a Mac x86 port" is essentially bogus. What's unlikely to be ported is the upper-layer stuff like the Aqua UI, that's all.
What I don't get is a lot of people in this forum taking Moore's "Is OS X the Real User-Friendly Linux?" article as somehow an attack on Linux or anti-Linux. As I read it, he's quite pro-Linux, as are much of the rest of the Mac community. You can hear his positive attitude towards Linux throughout the article, in words like "...even if Apple succeeds in its goal of doubling its market share, there are still going to be plenty of PCs around to support the Linux platform... Which is good. I would be dreadfully sorry to see Linux go the was of, say, Amiga, and happily the prospect of this happening is slim to nil"
The last thing us 'alternative OS' users need is picking fights amongst ourselves where there were none. We should all remember that MacOS X success is good for Linux and Linux success is good for MacOS X. Each's popularity will result in ever-more software being ported to the other that wouldn't normally have been there. And the more people exposed to the CLI and UNIX features on MacOS, the more will try experimenting with Linux.
A user can happily be part of both communities (they're not all that different, after all) without them being mutually exclusive, as I've found out. We shouldn't shut ourselves out from the other, whichever angle we're coming from.
Once again the 'balance sheet' references. So as part of the Apple (Mac) Community you had no power? I'd reply you have just about the same amount of power as part of any other computing Community. No power to save Cyberdog or OpenDoc etc? And so now as part of the Linux Community you can save Easel or Win4Lin etc? Come on.
You have to admit that since Jobs has returned to Apple, they're listening. Over 75,000 beta user responses in a few months and the most common suggestions implemented (eg. the Apple Menu returned, speedup in 10.1, spring-loaded folders in 10.2 just to name a few). It shows that they're paying attention again.
Again, I'm sorry you feel alienated - it's obvious from your posts. But I'm glad you found a Good Place with the Linux Community (I certainly did). But now I also have a new home in the Mac Community too. For me it's not an "either-or"
Darwin already runs on the x86 hardware platform, and has for a while now.
So really, slap X-Windows on it and you've got yourself an (OSX) Mac running on Intel, moslty just missing the Aqua UI. So let's all just shup up now about Apple porting MacOS to x86; posts like that are about as lame and automatic as "BSD is Dying" and "Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these" here on/. And should be moderated just as low.
-Remember when some users got together and tried to make a theme creation app for the Mac?
Yeah, and there's lots of those kinds of apps still thirving. Just because a company has a right (and obligation to investors and employees) to protect their intellectual property in 'look and feel' does not mean they are an 'evil corporate dictatorship'
-Remember when Apple didn't want to let their users upgrade their machines?
No, and neither does anyone else because that buggy firmware update was fixed the same month. Save the conspiracy theories for/. story submissions, OK?
-Remember when some people made Apple parody sites?
Yeah, and like any popular company there's more hilarious parody sites than ever before.
-What happens when you want to upgrade your video card?
The same thing as what happens on the Wintel side of things: you go out and buy another from ATI, Matrox, an Nvidia card, whatever. There are fewer choices available to Mac owners, sure, but that's through no fault of Apple in trying to woo gfx card manufacturers.
The Mac user experience is highly customizeable; it's less so on the hardware side than software but since Apple has adopted many open standards like AGP ports, PCI busses, ATA HDs, USB & other interfaces, etc etc it is getting less and less 'dictatorial' yearly. Just buy a standard HD for instance and slap it in. By the way Y-Crate, have you ever actually used a Mac lately?
"I'm proud to be part of that 0.24% because that 0.24% isn't just something to be treated like pennies that someone is afraid to lose. [...] Linux is that 0.24%: it's people not stock options. So you can keep your flashy system. I'm staying right here where I'm not just revenue on a balance sheet."
I like your sense of belonging to the Linux Community, I feel the same way. But your condemnation of Apple as viewing it's customers as just "revenue on a balance sheet" is unjustified. Or, it is justified, but just as applicable to IBM's Linux business, to Red Hat's and to every other company trying to make money from Linux. What you forget is that the Mac Community has been around and is not going anywhere anytime soon either. Whatever Apple may do right or wrong in the future, they are the ones that help one another and that really care. One of the greatest criticisms of the Apple one often hears from the Wintel world is that they're such a "cult": it's exactly this "cult" that's 4% of people who care just like the 0.24% in the Linux Community.
In short, Apple may be a company looking to make a profit, but so what? The Mac Comminuty is not just stock options either. I'm glad to be part of both now.
Apple people don't "keep going on" about killing Linux off. A lot of posts here such as yours seem to try and make it look that way, though. If you'd even read the article, you'll know that while the author does suggest the possibility that OSX is the "new Linux", he also criticises the 0.24% Linux statistics and additionally says "even if Apple succeeds in its goal of doubling its market share, there are still going to be plenty of PCs around to support the Linux platform."
All in all, the article is not Linux-hostile at all, and much of the Mac community looks upon Linux *BSD and other Open Source 'alternative' systems amicably. Why you seem to want to paint them as anti-Linux is beyond me; perhaps you are sensitive somehow.
I would have to say that Apple (in their own market) is much more of a monoploy than Microsoft in their market, sure. MS directly controls (at this point) only the OS and many major applications, whereas Apple controls the OS and some major applications, plus the hardware.
That being said, it's not an ideal situation but it isn't necessarily all bad either. Sort of like Ford having a monoply in the market for Mustang enthusiasts. If they had a monoply in the entire automotive market, that would be problem. But as it is, Mustang owners don't seem to complain.
This story in the Globe and Mail smacks of an earlier and very similar one I saw months ago on the Discovery Channel about a "sunken city" found off the coast of Japan, with "geometric structures, pyramids, and symmetries". Can't find the link to it now, but here's another link about the same site, with pics (he's gone overboard with some illustration & speculation, but you get the picture). The point is, a geologist visited the site and concluded that they were just naturally-formed blocks and structures. Being in geology myself, I can say with some certainty that structures with sharp edges, pyramids, or other seeminly man-made geometries can form on earth and on other planets. This may quite possibly be the case with this discovery in Cuba.
But the important thing is not to jump to too many conclusions of "Atlantis", "6000 years old" or "Rise, Cthulu, RISE!!"; I noticed that my compatriots investigating the site are being cautious in their wording, which is excellent. I wish them luck (and funding); interesting that this is one opportunity that US groups have lost out on because of the typical US government stance towards Cuba.
No way is Apple going to bring back the Cube: it didn't sell well before and it won't sell well again. And there are probably too few Cubes out there to justify Sonnet making an upgrade, unfortunately.
But more to the point, who has played the cell-phone style hidden game on the iPod? With new hacking sites popping up all over, has anyone found a firmware update that gives them any more games yet? Or playback of even more media formats or other abilities? Of couse it will soon have Windows compatibility and people have been booting off their iPods since the beginning, but lately I've seen someone modifying it for use as a simple address book, people trying to get it to work under *BSD and Linux, and development of a new graphic EQ for it. Anyone else made cool hacks?
(not!) Apparently operating and promoting a criminal monopoly in the United States does not incur much penalty.
The terms of this antitrust agreement (at C|Net) stike me as more of a blowjob than a slap on the wrist. The terms of this agreement do nothing to address the core issues of punitive damages in this "penalty" phase of the trial. Hasn't Microsoft been found to be an illegal monopolist? And even so there is no penalty forthcoming, only what can be described as minor conduct tweaking? Wow.
This deal is also weaker than what was on the table before MS was found guilty. Armed with a 7-0 judge appeals ruling that MS is an illegal monopolist, the DoJ now settles for something even less? [sarcasm] If I didn't have such a high confidence in the current administration, I'd have thought they'd been paid off or something; good thing we know that that can't be the case. [/sarcasm]
We can all be sure that more of the same will now continue. After all, were not similar minor conduct remedies ordered by courts in 1994, etc, only to be ignored by Microsoft? Now these conduct remedies will be... ignored again! And with that scary extension... yet again! Justice prevails in America. So do the undead apparently.
The idea, as is sometimes heard now, that the DoJ should go easy on Microsoft because of the current financial uncertainty does not hold water either. So we should suspend penalties to laws, just so that the economic boat doesn't get rocked? Even if the previous penalty of breaking the company into 2 was applied, this would not substantially change the immediate economic situation. Everyone would still use Windows, it would still come with your Dell, it would still be the de facto stadard for years; it's just that slowly other system choices would gradually appear. How would this be an economic calamity? Even this breakup scenario is now unlikely, after the DoJ unilaterally pulled the IE bundling claim off the table (for what reason, no-one really knows).
I am apalled at what amounts to a near toal capitulation by the Bush Administration's new DoJ attorneys. Mostly, it is the lack of justice that bothers me. I'm glad I'm not a US citizen otherwise I'd also be angry about the millions of taxpayers dollars put into this case over many years, and not even the most minor financial penalty to cover the costs of the case recuperated. If they want any kind of justice, Americans should write their state representatives and attorneys general to make known they do not support the Sates' signing on to this toothless deal. Barring that, it's up to the European Union to reign in the beast now.
...if it retails for $500. At $1000, as I'm sure many people have pointed out before you can buy a PC with a much more than the 566MHz Celeron and 40GB hard drive. The PC will also do a heck of a lot more than just store 9000 tracks and burn CDs; plus you won't be required to see their ads and can use CompuServe, AOL, or free ISPs if you want to, unlike with this unit. Not that I would want to use those ISPs, but HP is cutting, what... 50% of US internet users out of their customer pool this way? Great economics.
Apple may get similarly criticised for cutting out non-Mac users (95%!) out of their iPod customer pool, and also for overpricing the portable 5Gig iPod ($399) But we're dealing with apples and oranges here: Apple's motivation is to add value to owning a Mac and be innovative at the same time, to differentiate themselves further in the market. With no uniqueness, this HP product will find itself lost in the consmer woods.
And Cmdr Taco, didn't you say "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." in your coverage of the iPod? But for this (unquestionably much "lamer") product you say "I totally need a review model! I saw this thing at the last LinuxWorld and it looked good..." Spltt! Ack!! Barf!!!
So, let's get this straight... the Slashdot folks are talking about errors in the spelling of the CBC and the RingMouse, but no mention of their laughable coverage of Apple's new OS X? Over the last week or so there have been many trivial sumbmissions posted while there's hardly a peep about a new (BSD, Darwin) open-source based OS that will become the largest UNIX distro within a year? This despite the large media atention given to it and user interest? Hey, I watch CBC NewsWorld every day and misspelling their name is not somethnig to be proud of; but I don't think that this nor what EvansData mistakenly put in a poll is exactly newsworthy compared to something like OS X. Come on Slashdot, post some of the many OS X story submissions you get everyday. Fix the real errors on the site.
While I disagree with some of the things said, I totally agree with the gist of what is being said. It's been a week as of today since Slashdot posted a piece on MacOS X or anything to do with Apple at all, despite the release on Mar 24 of OS X and the tidal of media attention and interest in it. A new UNIX operating system over 7 years in the making based on a free open source OS (Darwin) and with a Mach/BSD core. Naw, that ain't Slashdot-style news!
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Note that there is still some bad Apple press like C|Net's Jeff Raskin video interview (but I wonder what he has to say about Windows if he's so nitpicky lol!) but on the whole it's been good, even from C|Net - Look at their Holy Grail group of articles on Apple.
Surprisingly, OS X has had reviews in the press lately ranging from cautious to glowing. Very different than the usual mildly-negative perspective; even C|Net is bullish! What's up with the change all of a sudden? Just look at how surprisingly balanced and -dare we say it- even favourable these articles are:
Now there is an operating system with enough installed base to justify coding all those mainstream apps we always wanted into some variant of Unix. This means porting those same apps to other *nixes will be easier, more software should seep into *BSD and Linux within a year. Now only if more games were ported....
Has Red Hat actually reported a profit? Ever? I didn't think so. But they "will real soon now"? Has a familiar ring to those of.com companies of not so long ago... seems like the Linux bubble has burst at last also...
You bet. I'm sure if MS went away Apple would die and wither... NOT! You guys are clueless, the relevancy of MS less and less as time goes on, a loss of Office already would be surviable on everything from Mac to Linux (Oh! Wait! There IS NO IE or Office for Linux. It must be going down the tubes then!) Soon it would just be a speed bump.
So... let me get this straight... As a commercial company Apple fixes 99% of the problems with their Public Source license, and the Free Software Foundation nitpicks about the 1% that still isn't "FSF compliant" Give me a break, considering they are good enough to throw their significant weight in with the open source communities' corner to start with I think the FSF can better spend their time nitpicking better targets.
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Darwin has worked on intel hardware since it was first released; you can add a GUI to it (X-Windows, whatever) and run a great deal of Mac software on it, so what you hear on this forum about "never a Mac x86 port" is essentially bogus. What's unlikely to be ported is the upper-layer stuff like the Aqua UI, that's all.
What I don't get is a lot of people in this forum taking Moore's "Is OS X the Real User-Friendly Linux?" article as somehow an attack on Linux or anti-Linux. As I read it, he's quite pro-Linux, as are much of the rest of the Mac community. You can hear his positive attitude towards Linux throughout the article, in words like "...even if Apple succeeds in its goal of doubling its market share, there are still going to be plenty of PCs around to support the Linux platform... Which is good. I would be dreadfully sorry to see Linux go the was of, say, Amiga, and happily the prospect of this happening is slim to nil"
The last thing us 'alternative OS' users need is picking fights amongst ourselves where there were none. We should all remember that MacOS X success is good for Linux and Linux success is good for MacOS X. Each's popularity will result in ever-more software being ported to the other that wouldn't normally have been there. And the more people exposed to the CLI and UNIX features on MacOS, the more will try experimenting with Linux.
A user can happily be part of both communities (they're not all that different, after all) without them being mutually exclusive, as I've found out. We shouldn't shut ourselves out from the other, whichever angle we're coming from.
Once again the 'balance sheet' references. So as part of the Apple (Mac) Community you had no power? I'd reply you have just about the same amount of power as part of any other computing Community. No power to save Cyberdog or OpenDoc etc? And so now as part of the Linux Community you can save Easel or Win4Lin etc? Come on.
You have to admit that since Jobs has returned to Apple, they're listening. Over 75,000 beta user responses in a few months and the most common suggestions implemented (eg. the Apple Menu returned, speedup in 10.1, spring-loaded folders in 10.2 just to name a few). It shows that they're paying attention again.
Again, I'm sorry you feel alienated - it's obvious from your posts. But I'm glad you found a Good Place with the Linux Community (I certainly did). But now I also have a new home in the Mac Community too. For me it's not an "either-or"
Darwin already runs on the x86 hardware platform, and has for a while now.
/. And should be moderated just as low.
So really, slap X-Windows on it and you've got yourself an (OSX) Mac running on Intel, moslty just missing the Aqua UI. So let's all just shup up now about Apple porting MacOS to x86; posts like that are about as lame and automatic as "BSD is Dying" and "Imagine a Beowulf Cluster of these" here on
-Remember when some users got together and tried to make a theme creation app for the Mac?
/. story submissions, OK?
Yeah, and there's lots of those kinds of apps still thirving. Just because a company has a right (and obligation to investors and employees) to protect their intellectual property in 'look and feel' does not mean they are an 'evil corporate dictatorship'
-Remember when Apple didn't want to let their users upgrade their machines?
No, and neither does anyone else because that buggy firmware update was fixed the same month. Save the conspiracy theories for
-Remember when some people made Apple parody sites?
Yeah, and like any popular company there's more hilarious parody sites than ever before.
-What happens when you want to upgrade your video card?
The same thing as what happens on the Wintel side of things: you go out and buy another from ATI, Matrox, an Nvidia card, whatever. There are fewer choices available to Mac owners, sure, but that's through no fault of Apple in trying to woo gfx card manufacturers.
The Mac user experience is highly customizeable; it's less so on the hardware side than software but since Apple has adopted many open standards like AGP ports, PCI busses, ATA HDs, USB & other interfaces, etc etc it is getting less and less 'dictatorial' yearly. Just buy a standard HD for instance and slap it in. By the way Y-Crate, have you ever actually used a Mac lately?
krmt wrote:
"I'm proud to be part of that 0.24% because that 0.24% isn't just something to be treated like pennies that someone is afraid to lose. [...] Linux is that 0.24%: it's people not stock options. So you can keep your flashy system. I'm staying right here where I'm not just revenue on a balance sheet."
I like your sense of belonging to the Linux Community, I feel the same way. But your condemnation of Apple as viewing it's customers as just "revenue on a balance sheet" is unjustified. Or, it is justified, but just as applicable to IBM's Linux business, to Red Hat's and to every other company trying to make money from Linux. What you forget is that the Mac Community has been around and is not going anywhere anytime soon either. Whatever Apple may do right or wrong in the future, they are the ones that help one another and that really care. One of the greatest criticisms of the Apple one often hears from the Wintel world is that they're such a "cult": it's exactly this "cult" that's 4% of people who care just like the 0.24% in the Linux Community.
In short, Apple may be a company looking to make a profit, but so what? The Mac Comminuty is not just stock options either. I'm glad to be part of both now.
Apple people don't "keep going on" about killing Linux off. A lot of posts here such as yours seem to try and make it look that way, though. If you'd even read the article, you'll know that while the author does suggest the possibility that OSX is the "new Linux", he also criticises the 0.24% Linux statistics and additionally says "even if Apple succeeds in its goal of doubling its market share, there are still going to be plenty of PCs around to support the Linux platform."
All in all, the article is not Linux-hostile at all, and much of the Mac community looks upon Linux *BSD and other Open Source 'alternative' systems amicably. Why you seem to want to paint them as anti-Linux is beyond me; perhaps you are sensitive somehow.
Yeah, I've never seen a "BSD is dying" post here on Slashdot from anyone pro-Linux. Talk about kicking the underdog.
Why don't we all just get along?
... unquestionably UT, baby! By the way, does anyone know if Unreal2/Unreal Championship will be released on Linux? When?
I would have to say that Apple (in their own market) is much more of a monoploy than Microsoft in their market, sure. MS directly controls (at this point) only the OS and many major applications, whereas Apple controls the OS and some major applications, plus the hardware.
That being said, it's not an ideal situation but it isn't necessarily all bad either. Sort of like Ford having a monoply in the market for Mustang enthusiasts. If they had a monoply in the entire automotive market, that would be problem. But as it is, Mustang owners don't seem to complain.
Does anyone know of any other Cocoa dev books coming out in the near future (6-9 months)?
This story in the Globe and Mail smacks of an earlier and very similar one I saw months ago on the Discovery Channel about a "sunken city" found off the coast of Japan, with "geometric structures, pyramids, and symmetries". Can't find the link to it now, but here's another link about the same site, with pics (he's gone overboard with some illustration & speculation, but you get the picture). The point is, a geologist visited the site and concluded that they were just naturally-formed blocks and structures. Being in geology myself, I can say with some certainty that structures with sharp edges, pyramids, or other seeminly man-made geometries can form on earth and on other planets. This may quite possibly be the case with this discovery in Cuba.
But the important thing is not to jump to too many conclusions of "Atlantis", "6000 years old" or "Rise, Cthulu, RISE!! "; I noticed that my compatriots investigating the site are being cautious in their wording, which is excellent. I wish them luck (and funding); interesting that this is one opportunity that US groups have lost out on because of the typical US government stance towards Cuba.
No way is Apple going to bring back the Cube: it didn't sell well before and it won't sell well again. And there are probably too few Cubes out there to justify Sonnet making an upgrade, unfortunately.
Apple's will be on to other stuff soon anyways.
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But more to the point, who has played the cell-phone style hidden game on the iPod? With new hacking sites popping up all over, has anyone found a firmware update that gives them any more games yet? Or playback of even more media formats or other abilities? Of couse it will soon have Windows compatibility and people have been booting off their iPods since the beginning, but lately I've seen someone modifying it for use as a simple address book, people trying to get it to work under *BSD and Linux, and development of a new graphic EQ for it. Anyone else made cool hacks?
(not!) Apparently operating and promoting a criminal monopoly in the United States does not incur much penalty.
The terms of this antitrust agreement (at C|Net) stike me as more of a blowjob than a slap on the wrist. The terms of this agreement do nothing to address the core issues of punitive damages in this "penalty" phase of the trial. Hasn't Microsoft been found to be an illegal monopolist? And even so there is no penalty forthcoming, only what can be described as minor conduct tweaking? Wow.
This deal is also weaker than what was on the table before MS was found guilty. Armed with a 7-0 judge appeals ruling that MS is an illegal monopolist, the DoJ now settles for something even less? [sarcasm] If I didn't have such a high confidence in the current administration, I'd have thought they'd been paid off or something; good thing we know that that can't be the case. [/sarcasm]
We can all be sure that more of the same will now continue. After all, were not similar minor conduct remedies ordered by courts in 1994, etc, only to be ignored by Microsoft? Now these conduct remedies will be... ignored again! And with that scary extension... yet again! Justice prevails in America. So do the undead apparently.
The idea, as is sometimes heard now, that the DoJ should go easy on Microsoft because of the current financial uncertainty does not hold water either. So we should suspend penalties to laws, just so that the economic boat doesn't get rocked? Even if the previous penalty of breaking the company into 2 was applied, this would not substantially change the immediate economic situation. Everyone would still use Windows, it would still come with your Dell, it would still be the de facto stadard for years; it's just that slowly other system choices would gradually appear. How would this be an economic calamity? Even this breakup scenario is now unlikely, after the DoJ unilaterally pulled the IE bundling claim off the table (for what reason, no-one really knows).
I am apalled at what amounts to a near toal capitulation by the Bush Administration's new DoJ attorneys. Mostly, it is the lack of justice that bothers me. I'm glad I'm not a US citizen otherwise I'd also be angry about the millions of taxpayers dollars put into this case over many years, and not even the most minor financial penalty to cover the costs of the case recuperated. If they want any kind of justice, Americans should write their state representatives and attorneys general to make known they do not support the Sates' signing on to this toothless deal. Barring that, it's up to the European Union to reign in the beast now.
...if it retails for $500. At $1000, as I'm sure many people have pointed out before you can buy a PC with a much more than the 566MHz Celeron and 40GB hard drive. The PC will also do a heck of a lot more than just store 9000 tracks and burn CDs; plus you won't be required to see their ads and can use CompuServe, AOL, or free ISPs if you want to, unlike with this unit. Not that I would want to use those ISPs, but HP is cutting, what... 50% of US internet users out of their customer pool this way? Great economics.
Apple may get similarly criticised for cutting out non-Mac users (95%!) out of their iPod customer pool, and also for overpricing the portable 5Gig iPod ($399) But we're dealing with apples and oranges here: Apple's motivation is to add value to owning a Mac and be innovative at the same time, to differentiate themselves further in the market. With no uniqueness, this HP product will find itself lost in the consmer woods.
And Cmdr Taco, didn't you say "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame." in your coverage of the iPod? But for this (unquestionably much "lamer") product you say "I totally need a review model! I saw this thing at the last LinuxWorld and it looked good..." Spltt! Ack!! Barf!!!
Put down the crack pipe.
So, let's get this straight... the Slashdot folks are talking about errors in the spelling of the CBC and the RingMouse, but no mention of their laughable coverage of Apple's new OS X? Over the last week or so there have been many trivial sumbmissions posted while there's hardly a peep about a new (BSD, Darwin) open-source based OS that will become the largest UNIX distro within a year? This despite the large media atention given to it and user interest? Hey, I watch CBC NewsWorld every day and misspelling their name is not somethnig to be proud of; but I don't think that this nor what EvansData mistakenly put in a poll is exactly newsworthy compared to something like OS X. Come on Slashdot, post some of the many OS X story submissions you get everyday. Fix the real errors on the site.
While I disagree with some of the things said, I totally agree with the gist of what is being said. It's been a week as of today since Slashdot posted a piece on MacOS X or anything to do with Apple at all, despite the release on Mar 24 of OS X and the tidal of media attention and interest in it. A new UNIX operating system over 7 years in the making based on a free open source OS (Darwin) and with a Mach/BSD core. Naw, that ain't Slashdot-style news!
Note that there is still some bad Apple press like C|Net's Jeff Raskin video interview (but I wonder what he has to say about Windows if he's so nitpicky lol!) but on the whole it's been good, even from C|Net - Look at their Holy Grail group of articles on Apple.
MacOS X Looks like a Champ Red Herring
Re-Engineering the Mac Universe Washington Post
OS X Won't Change the World but is Still a Big Deal ZDNet
MacOS X: Major Into in Minor Key Business Week
It's As Easy as A Mac Wired
And tons more, too many to mention. All from mainstream press, note... will wonders never cease?
Now there is an operating system with enough installed base to justify coding all those mainstream apps we always wanted into some variant of Unix. This means porting those same apps to other *nixes will be easier, more software should seep into *BSD and Linux within a year. Now only if more games were ported....
Has Red Hat actually reported a profit? Ever? I didn't think so. But they "will real soon now"? Has a familiar ring to those of .com companies of not so long ago... seems like the Linux bubble has burst at last also...
You bet. I'm sure if MS went away Apple would die and wither... NOT! You guys are clueless, the relevancy of MS less and less as time goes on, a loss of Office already would be surviable on everything from Mac to Linux (Oh! Wait! There IS NO IE or Office for Linux. It must be going down the tubes then!) Soon it would just be a speed bump.
So... let me get this straight... As a commercial company Apple fixes 99% of the problems with their Public Source license, and the Free Software Foundation nitpicks about the 1% that still isn't "FSF compliant" Give me a break, considering they are good enough to throw their significant weight in with the open source communities' corner to start with I think the FSF can better spend their time nitpicking better targets.