I think I know some of the things that the ACTUAL founding fathers thought about the value of religion in politics.....because they actually said them.. And while they were Christian, they certainly give me them impression that the role of god in government was ziltch.
"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington,
"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?"
--Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.
"Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ."
--James Madison, America's Providential History, p. 93.
"When we view the blessings with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we possess of handing them down unimpaired to our latest posterity, our attention is irresistibly drawn to the source from whence they flow. Let us then, unite in offering our most grateful acknowledgements for these blessings to the Divine Author of All Good."
--James Monroe made this statement in his 2nd Annual Message to Congress, November 16, 1818.
"The hope of a Christian is inseparable from his faith. Whoever believes in the divine inspiration of the Holy Scriptures must hope that the religion of Jesus shall prevail throughout the earth."
--Life of John Quincy Adams, p. 248.
"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."
--Alexander Hamilton, Famous American Statesmen, p. 126.
Wrong wrong wrong! A seatbelt does in fact help other drivers true accidents (I'm also an EMT) --low speed (5mph) side impact that tossed the driver to the right...no seat belt...hangs on to the bottom of the steering wheel turns, car strikes another car in oncoming lane (no serious injuries but lots' of autos (yes "s"!!) damaged. --low (20mph) speed rear impact, driver pushed back into seat and then forward by the impact, out of position to control the car (the breaks or steering wheel) run into car crossing intersection.
True, neither driver was really "at fault" but both would have avoided off loading their hardship onto other people if they had just been in position to control their cars.
And to address your second part, your personal choice to wear or not wear your seatbelt is tired to your insurance company's responsibility to have to pay your claim. Many insurance companies tie their rates to a promise to wear your seatbelt (I do... as does everyone I know in the public safety business). If you check a box that says that you refuse to use your seatbelt (remember, it's your personal choice) then they can change you a higher rate because, odds are, you are going to cost more to treat after your accident.
The people on Slashdot should be good enough at physics to know that only a freaking idiot doens't wear a seatbelt because it's a personal choice....it's about as smart a choice as walking at night with sunglasses on. There just isn't a reason.
Option #2 is the route that I took....not as much paperwork a lot more freedom to move and improve your skill set. If you do a good job, you are very, very secure. The problem with people saying "Go with a FTE position" is that when it comes to crunch time, companies really don't care about who is an employee or who isn't. Compaines keep skill sets. If you are sharp and can put together a good contract (make sure you have a clear mandate!) a company will hold on to you over a FTE with a less extensive skill set.
On a whole, are the politicians listening to the money and voting for dollars or are they truly thinking about the impact of the things that they vote for?
Intel (the ones who have had trouble with that tricky 'division' thing in the past) has what in the way of testing that AMD doesn't?
I mean if would be one thing if Intel has always had rock on chips, but they have the same 'industry standard' failure rate for chips (Not just processors, but chips!) that others have.
Both...more complex code has more bugs...but it's complex code.
Bugs are just part of the measurement, you really need to consider everything that's being done. No one metric is going to tell you what somebody is worth to an organization.
I hate to sounds like an echo, but tracking - tracking - tracking.
One of the steps in your issue management process is a review of all changes/bugs/enhancements/etc..If a issues is going to make it into your product (and not get rejected) part of the review is breaking it down into it's composite parts and measuring the difficulty of those tasks. When you assign the ER (engineering resource) to a given task, you have just assigned them a certain amount of difficulty/work load/points.
If they take 3 iterations to complete the task, and another coder can finish the same amount of difficulty/work load/points in a single pass, you have something that differentiates the two come 'bonus' time.
That said, this kind of a system needs to be really, really closely monitored or else it's just a bullshit way of knocking people around come review time. The real advantage is that it if you are closely watching the system you can see where you need to step in and help someone before they come to the review and find themselves with a laundry list of mistakes.
If you are using issue tracking software/work flow software, tracking performance is very, very easy. You can measure the number of bugs per developer, time-to-complete, complexity of the developers work, etc.
The only problem with a system (any system) like that is that you have to make people use it.
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I think I know some of the things that the ACTUAL founding fathers thought about the value of religion in politics.....because they actually said them..
And while they were Christian, they certainly give me them impression that the role of god in government was ziltch.
"While we are zealously performing the duties of good citizens and soldiers, we certainly ought not to be inattentive to the higher duties of religion. To the distinguished character of Patriot, it should be our highest glory to add the more distinguished character of Christian."
--The Writings of Washington,
"The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence were the general principles of Christianity. I will avow that I then believed, and now believe, that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God."
--Adams wrote this on June 28, 1813, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
"God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are of the Gift of God?"
--Thomas Jefferson, Notes on the State of Virginia, Query XVIII, p. 237.
"Cursed be all that learning that is contrary to the cross of Christ."
--James Madison, America's Providential History, p. 93.
"When we view the blessings with which our country has been favored, those which we now enjoy, and the means which we possess of handing them down unimpaired to our latest posterity, our attention is irresistibly drawn to the source from whence they flow. Let us then, unite in offering our most grateful acknowledgements for these blessings to the Divine Author of All Good."
--James Monroe made this statement in his 2nd Annual Message to Congress, November 16, 1818.
"The hope of a Christian is inseparable from his faith. Whoever believes in the divine inspiration of the Holy Scriptures must hope that the religion of Jesus shall prevail throughout the earth."
--Life of John Quincy Adams, p. 248.
"I have carefully examined the evidences of the Christian religion, and if I was sitting as a juror upon its authenticity I would unhesitatingly give my verdict in its favor. I can prove its truth as clearly as any proposition ever submitted to the mind of man."
--Alexander Hamilton, Famous American Statesmen, p. 126.
Wrong wrong wrong! A seatbelt does in fact help other drivers ...no seat belt...hangs on to the bottom of the steering wheel turns, car strikes another car in oncoming lane (no serious injuries but lots' of autos (yes "s"!!) damaged.
true accidents (I'm also an EMT)
--low speed (5mph) side impact that tossed the driver to the right
--low (20mph) speed rear impact, driver pushed back into seat and then forward by the impact, out of position to control the car (the breaks or steering wheel) run into car crossing intersection.
True, neither driver was really "at fault" but both would have avoided off loading their hardship onto other people if they had just been in position to control their cars.
And to address your second part, your personal choice to wear or not wear your seatbelt is tired to your insurance company's responsibility to have to pay your claim. Many insurance companies tie their rates to a promise to wear your seatbelt (I do... as does everyone I know in the public safety business). If you check a box that says that you refuse to use your seatbelt (remember, it's your personal choice) then they can change you a higher rate because, odds are, you are going to cost more to treat after your accident.
The people on Slashdot should be good enough at physics to know that only a freaking idiot doens't wear a seatbelt because it's a personal choice....it's about as smart a choice as walking at night with sunglasses on. There just isn't a reason.
Given that most movies run about 1/3 longer than they need to, wouldn't this be a good thing?
Option #2 is the route that I took....not as much paperwork a lot more freedom to move and improve your skill set. If you do a good job, you are very, very secure. The problem with people saying "Go with a FTE position" is that when it comes to crunch time, companies really don't care about who is an employee or who isn't. Compaines keep skill sets. If you are sharp and can put together a good contract (make sure you have a clear mandate!) a company will hold on to you over a FTE with a less extensive skill set.
On a whole, are the politicians listening to the money and voting for dollars or are they truly thinking about the impact of the things that they vote for?
This is the most upfront MS guy I have ever heard. I disagree with a lot that was said, but props for comments.
Intel (the ones who have had trouble with that tricky 'division' thing in the past) has what in the way of testing that AMD doesn't?
I mean if would be one thing if Intel has always had rock on chips, but they have the same 'industry standard' failure rate for chips (Not just processors, but chips!) that others have.
Both...more complex code has more bugs...but it's complex code.
Bugs are just part of the measurement, you really need to consider everything that's being done. No one metric is going to tell you what somebody is worth to an organization.
Looks like Slashdot beat the thesmokinggun.com to the scoop!
I hate to sounds like an echo, but tracking - tracking - tracking.
One of the steps in your issue management process is a review of all changes/bugs/enhancements/etc..If a issues is going to make it into your product (and not get rejected) part of the review is breaking it down into it's composite parts and measuring the difficulty of those tasks. When you assign the ER (engineering resource) to a given task, you have just assigned them a certain amount of difficulty/work load/points.
If they take 3 iterations to complete the task, and another coder can finish the same amount of difficulty/work load/points in a single pass, you have something that differentiates the two come 'bonus' time.
That said, this kind of a system needs to be really, really closely monitored or else it's just a bullshit way of knocking people around come review time. The real advantage is that it if you are closely watching the system you can see where you need to step in and help someone before they come to the review and find themselves with a laundry list of mistakes.
If you are using issue tracking software/work flow software, tracking performance is very, very easy. You can measure the number of bugs per developer, time-to-complete, complexity of the developers work, etc.
The only problem with a system (any system) like that is that you have to make people use it.