Potential users voicing concerns that they wish to be corrected is perfectly valid. There are good programs out there with minor flaws. Would you rather try and get those flaws fixed, start over from scratch, or take your toys and go home?
I might agree with you in the instance of bugs. But layout and gui design don't come into the "flaw" category. They come under personal preference.
You're not going to please everybody, so you just have to take your app down a path that you're comfortable with. If a user doesn't like it, they can use something else. There's an abundance of choice of browsers. There's no need to come here and whine that this one is different to what you're used to. How do the whiners know they won't like this? They haven't even tried it.
My vote is for STFU and get over it. What the hell gives you the right to judge how someone designs their app?
Nobody cares, dude. It belongs where the user wants it, and I don't want my address bar below my tabs, end of story.
It's a matter of personnel opinion and I seriously hope there will be an option to fix the location if you don't like it.
Actually, it's even better than that. Instead of whining about how this application is going to be configured and trying to change it to suit yourself... now you may want to be sitting down for this...
250GB in a 30 day month is 8.3GB a day, 355MB/hour, ~6MB a minute, 101KB/sec.
Or, 809kbps. On a connection which is advertised as being at least 6mbit/sec.
there's a difference between traffic and bandwidth.
you will still have a bandwidth limit of 6mbit/sec, but you have a traffic limit of 250GB.
do you think your ISP has enough bandwidth to support EVERY ONE of their users downloading balls to the wall 24x7x365? Try ringing your ISP and asking them what they would charge you for dedicated bandwidth. I bet you have a heart attack.
originality: FAIL name: FAIL marketing: FAIL understanding of their demographic: FAIL
I don't know what they were thinking. If they had actually *asked* a gamer what they thought, perhaps this wouldn't have failed (because it never would have started).
Really. I mean, Gleemax? Maximum Glee? Or a Gleaming Ax? Who the hell are they aiming it at? Japanese girls, or violent barbarians?
#3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.
I actually tried this and found I worked up a sweat very quickly. But a word of warning -- when cycling with rollerblades in a swimming pool, stay in the shallow end. The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.
but too many people scream "ooo.. apple... dirty" and won't touch them. then they go on to make stupid claims without taking the time to ever actually find out for themselves.
I'm a strong proponent of thinking for myself. If somebody says something, I'm more likely to prove it than take their word for it. Unless they say something like "stabbing yourself with this sharp pointy thing in the eyeball will lead to great inconvenience." Then I'll probably concede the point to them.
My definition of hack is making it do what it was not intended to do. Which in this instance is broad enough to cover hacking an operating system to make it do what it wasn't supposed to: ie; run malicious software.
so a jailbroken iPhone is not cracked? enabling users to do what the manufacturer doesn't want you to do?
and the PSP hasn't been cracked to enable people to run pirated games and homebrew software, against the wishes of the manufacturer?
The Xbox has been cracked to allow modchips to run.
it's people like you who give Linux and hackers a bad name.
no, it's people like you who are doing that. I'm a Linux user. Most of my computers at home run Linux, and I am a Linux sysadmin by day, so don't presume I'm anti-Linux. I'm just anti-stupidity.
And do you believe in God, Santa, and the Tooth Fairy too?
People will hack anything. Think about that for a little while before you hit reply. No. read it again. People will hack ANYTHING.
PSP was hacked very early. Sod all sales, definitely fewer than Macs. iPhone was hacked very early. They have fewer users than the Macs. GP32 (gamepark - a handheld game console) was hacked. Hasn't sold anywhere near what Macs have. Xbox (original) was hacked very quickly, as was playstation, and even gamecube, and even sega dreamcast.
People will hack anything, just to say they did. Kids brought up on Macs at schools who don't have stupid anti-apple biases will try to hack their school computers. Or maybe even if they do have anti-apple biases.
But nobody has yet been able to hack a Mac convincingly.
Think with your head, not with your bias. Security (or lack thereof) is not directly proportional to market share.
do you have any links to the statutes that cover this stuff? I'd be keen to see how it compares to here in NZ..
Here, if stuff hasn't been rated, then it gets confiscated, but again, that's a different situation to having been actually refused classification. From what I've heard from those who have had stuff confiscated (I'm talking underground comics back in the '80s which the govt really hated), if it was taken and they didn't like it, they put it in the big pile of stuff to be burned. Of course, to get something classified/rated costs quite a bit of money, so maybe that was a factor. if the owner of the confiscated material couldn't pay for the classification fee, then the material was just binned?
dunno, but interested to find out a bit more about this..
could you please elaborate? if it's refused classification, it's not allowed to be sold in the country, therefore, my perception is that it is every bit the same as being banned.
if you import it, won't they confiscate it (assuming they find out or catch it passing thru customs)?
New Zealand have nice weather? I'd love to come out there from the states for a year and set up a non-profit/coop fiber concern to provide high speed access.
depends on how you define nice. it's much colder than older places, but it's no Siberia. If the temperature here gets to 30 degrees C, we're in the middle of a heatwave. I personally think it's nice, and when I last went to Australia, I near melted.
in NZ, bandwidth costs a shitload. I'd invite you over, but you would fail. basically, that which is happening or threatening to happen is something that we've been used to since day one. the reason is because most of our traffic is international. in the states, most of the content you access is national; therefore, your ISPs are a lot more generous.
we have a fiber network in my city (wellington), but you wouldn't get it out to the residential areas unless you had a boatload of cash. and you can't rely on piggybacking onto our primary telco. they are still running a network with NEAX 61Es and Ks. they won't upgrade because it'll eat into their profits and the bigwigs will lose their bonuses. oh they've got the money. and they'll save millions a year just on power savings by cutting down from gargantuan racks of switches to something current. but they don't look that far ahead.
the last problem you'll face is that NZ is tiny. our entire country has half the population of New York. I'm talking New York City, not the state.
Or try a simple script for imagemagick in Ubuntu, and you can fill a folder full of photos to compress, right click, scripts, photos4email.sh. Now we have a folder full of smaller jpegs for email, right click on the new folder, compress to a zip file, then bobs your uncle, attach that to an email! (bloody macs making things GUI simple!)
basically, my post will amount to "fuck off." please stop reading if you don't need any further elaboration.
1. linux != ubuntu. fucking n00bs like you piss me off. same shit happened when redhat was starting out. everyone was referring to redhat when they meant linux. and they'd talk about linux 4 when they meant redhat 4. same now with ubuntu. I know, you will defend yourself by saying that you recommend I install ubuntu because it's easy. see #5.
2. I was talking about all the n00bs like my dad, not *just* my dad. helping one won't fix the general problem I was talking about.
3. he's running windows.
4. where the fuck did macs come into this?
5. something that is simple for you (and dare I compare myself to you) and me may not even be remotely comprehensible for someone else. you make the assumption that because you can do it, everybody must be able to.
don't get me started on that. I've tried. trust me. I've tried. If you look up "stubborn old mule" in the dictionary, you will see a photo of my dad.
In fact, the last time I mentioned a Mac to him was last night. I even offered to give him one of mine. No go. And for the record, I think iPhoto is the biggest piece of dogpoo i've ever had the misfortune of using in my life.:) I'm not teaching that to anyone.
those of us in third world countries like New Zealand who have to pay in blood for our bandwidth are going to start seeing Users sending (or trying to send) their friends 40+ meg attachments once those cameras become standard consumer issue. Trying to explain to my dad how to load MS Paint, and shrink the image, resulted in him writing down the instructions, and then promptly ringing me the first time he had to follow those instructions.
The major ISPs in this country who offer "broadband" plans with 200MB traffic per month -- yes, you read that right: MB -- are going going to have to do some serious reassessing. As it is, with Xbox demo games upward of 1GB, I don't know how we're putting up with this garbage.
As Uncle Ben said: "With great power comes great responsibility." Everybody wants the power, but nobody wants the responsibility.
I'll probably be marked as a troll, but this is a serious issue. How many of you have received one page word docs, or excel spreadsheets from companies, only to find that those files were over 5 megs? just a bunch of text, and fecking huge 12 million DPI logo.
I'm not saying we should stay in the dark ages, but we need to start preparing.
from http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113: "The DNS protocol specification includes a transaction ID field of 16 bits. If the specification is correctly implemented and the transaction ID is randomly selected with a strong random number generator, an attacker will require, on average, 32,768 attempts to successfully predict the ID."
Just put the real seed back into the code.
obrant: and who the frak releases advisories in DOC format in the 21st century?
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Potential users voicing concerns that they wish to be corrected is perfectly valid. There are good programs out there with minor flaws. Would you rather try and get those flaws fixed, start over from scratch, or take your toys and go home?
I might agree with you in the instance of bugs. But layout and gui design don't come into the "flaw" category. They come under personal preference.
You're not going to please everybody, so you just have to take your app down a path that you're comfortable with. If a user doesn't like it, they can use something else. There's an abundance of choice of browsers. There's no need to come here and whine that this one is different to what you're used to. How do the whiners know they won't like this? They haven't even tried it.
My vote is for STFU and get over it. What the hell gives you the right to judge how someone designs their app?
Nobody cares, dude. It belongs where the user wants it, and I don't want my address bar below my tabs, end of story.
It's a matter of personnel opinion and I seriously hope there will be an option to fix the location if you don't like it.
Actually, it's even better than that. Instead of whining about how this application is going to be configured and trying to change it to suit yourself... now you may want to be sitting down for this...
don't use it.
250GB in a 30 day month is 8.3GB a day, 355MB/hour, ~6MB a minute, 101KB/sec.
Or, 809kbps. On a connection which is advertised as being at least 6mbit/sec.
there's a difference between traffic and bandwidth.
you will still have a bandwidth limit of 6mbit/sec, but you have a traffic limit of 250GB.
do you think your ISP has enough bandwidth to support EVERY ONE of their users downloading balls to the wall 24x7x365? Try ringing your ISP and asking them what they would charge you for dedicated bandwidth. I bet you have a heart attack.
that's messed up. My already low estimation of WotC has plummeted to new depths.
originality: FAIL
name: FAIL
marketing: FAIL
understanding of their demographic: FAIL
I don't know what they were thinking. If they had actually *asked* a gamer what they thought, perhaps this wouldn't have failed (because it never would have started).
Really. I mean, Gleemax? Maximum Glee? Or a Gleaming Ax? Who the hell are they aiming it at? Japanese girls, or violent barbarians?
blamecanada
#3 - Find a local swimming pool, strap on a pair of rollerblades, get a bicycle.
I actually tried this and found I worked up a sweat very quickly. But a word of warning -- when cycling with rollerblades in a swimming pool, stay in the shallow end. The deep can be treacherous and the bike will weigh you down like you wouldn't believe.
but too many people scream "ooo.. apple... dirty" and won't touch them. then they go on to make stupid claims without taking the time to ever actually find out for themselves.
I'm a strong proponent of thinking for myself. If somebody says something, I'm more likely to prove it than take their word for it. Unless they say something like "stabbing yourself with this sharp pointy thing in the eyeball will lead to great inconvenience." Then I'll probably concede the point to them.
My definition of hack is making it do what it was not intended to do. Which in this instance is broad enough to cover hacking an operating system to make it do what it wasn't supposed to: ie; run malicious software.
so a jailbroken iPhone is not cracked? enabling users to do what the manufacturer doesn't want you to do?
and the PSP hasn't been cracked to enable people to run pirated games and homebrew software, against the wishes of the manufacturer?
The Xbox has been cracked to allow modchips to run.
it's people like you who give Linux and hackers a bad name.
no, it's people like you who are doing that. I'm a Linux user. Most of my computers at home run Linux, and I am a Linux sysadmin by day, so don't presume I'm anti-Linux. I'm just anti-stupidity.
apple was never secure. It was just unused.
And do you believe in God, Santa, and the Tooth Fairy too?
People will hack anything. Think about that for a little while before you hit reply. No. read it again. People will hack ANYTHING.
PSP was hacked very early. Sod all sales, definitely fewer than Macs.
iPhone was hacked very early. They have fewer users than the Macs.
GP32 (gamepark - a handheld game console) was hacked. Hasn't sold anywhere near what Macs have.
Xbox (original) was hacked very quickly, as was playstation, and even gamecube, and even sega dreamcast.
People will hack anything, just to say they did. Kids brought up on Macs at schools who don't have stupid anti-apple biases will try to hack their school computers. Or maybe even if they do have anti-apple biases.
But nobody has yet been able to hack a Mac convincingly.
Think with your head, not with your bias. Security (or lack thereof) is not directly proportional to market share.
Languages for discriminating hackers: C++
of course they are.. they're discriminating against everyone who doesn't use C++.
"programming language of choice for discriminating hackers."
ok, so if this is annual, then the language of choice is only valid for one year? what are the last 10, so we know they've past their use-by date?
do you have any links to the statutes that cover this stuff? I'd be keen to see how it compares to here in NZ..
Here, if stuff hasn't been rated, then it gets confiscated, but again, that's a different situation to having been actually refused classification. From what I've heard from those who have had stuff confiscated (I'm talking underground comics back in the '80s which the govt really hated), if it was taken and they didn't like it, they put it in the big pile of stuff to be burned. Of course, to get something classified/rated costs quite a bit of money, so maybe that was a factor. if the owner of the confiscated material couldn't pay for the classification fee, then the material was just binned?
dunno, but interested to find out a bit more about this..
could you please elaborate? if it's refused classification, it's not allowed to be sold in the country, therefore, my perception is that it is every bit the same as being banned.
if you import it, won't they confiscate it (assuming they find out or catch it passing thru customs)?
New Zealand have nice weather? I'd love to come out there from the states for a year and set up a non-profit/coop fiber concern to provide high speed access.
depends on how you define nice. it's much colder than older places, but it's no Siberia. If the temperature here gets to 30 degrees C, we're in the middle of a heatwave. I personally think it's nice, and when I last went to Australia, I near melted.
in NZ, bandwidth costs a shitload. I'd invite you over, but you would fail. basically, that which is happening or threatening to happen is something that we've been used to since day one. the reason is because most of our traffic is international. in the states, most of the content you access is national; therefore, your ISPs are a lot more generous.
we have a fiber network in my city (wellington), but you wouldn't get it out to the residential areas unless you had a boatload of cash. and you can't rely on piggybacking onto our primary telco. they are still running a network with NEAX 61Es and Ks. they won't upgrade because it'll eat into their profits and the bigwigs will lose their bonuses. oh they've got the money. and they'll save millions a year just on power savings by cutting down from gargantuan racks of switches to something current. but they don't look that far ahead.
the last problem you'll face is that NZ is tiny. our entire country has half the population of New York. I'm talking New York City, not the state.
But 200MB? Sure you're not getting confused with mobile broadband?
nope, standard, regular old broadband to the home:
https://www.telecom.co.nz/broadband/select/1,10627,205836-204473,00.html
TelstraClear used to have one too, but I've just checked and their minimum plan is now 1GB.
Or try a simple script for imagemagick in Ubuntu, and you can fill a folder full of photos to compress, right click, scripts, photos4email.sh. Now we have a folder full of smaller jpegs for email, right click on the new folder, compress to a zip file, then bobs your uncle, attach that to an email! (bloody macs making things GUI simple!)
basically, my post will amount to "fuck off." please stop reading if you don't need any further elaboration.
1. linux != ubuntu. fucking n00bs like you piss me off. same shit happened when redhat was starting out. everyone was referring to redhat when they meant linux. and they'd talk about linux 4 when they meant redhat 4. same now with ubuntu. I know, you will defend yourself by saying that you recommend I install ubuntu because it's easy. see #5.
2. I was talking about all the n00bs like my dad, not *just* my dad. helping one won't fix the general problem I was talking about.
3. he's running windows.
4. where the fuck did macs come into this?
5. something that is simple for you (and dare I compare myself to you) and me may not even be remotely comprehensible for someone else. you make the assumption that because you can do it, everybody must be able to.
Get your dad a Mac.
don't get me started on that. I've tried. trust me. I've tried. If you look up "stubborn old mule" in the dictionary, you will see a photo of my dad.
In fact, the last time I mentioned a Mac to him was last night. I even offered to give him one of mine. No go. And for the record, I think iPhoto is the biggest piece of dogpoo i've ever had the misfortune of using in my life. :) I'm not teaching that to anyone.
a 33 year old bug, plus a 25 year old bug (http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/05/11/1339228)....
if we keep going backwards, will the world implode? or will daemons start spewing out of cracks in time and space?
those of us in third world countries like New Zealand who have to pay in blood for our bandwidth are going to start seeing Users sending (or trying to send) their friends 40+ meg attachments once those cameras become standard consumer issue. Trying to explain to my dad how to load MS Paint, and shrink the image, resulted in him writing down the instructions, and then promptly ringing me the first time he had to follow those instructions.
The major ISPs in this country who offer "broadband" plans with 200MB traffic per month -- yes, you read that right: MB -- are going going to have to do some serious reassessing. As it is, with Xbox demo games upward of 1GB, I don't know how we're putting up with this garbage.
As Uncle Ben said: "With great power comes great responsibility." Everybody wants the power, but nobody wants the responsibility.
I'll probably be marked as a troll, but this is a serious issue. How many of you have received one page word docs, or excel spreadsheets from companies, only to find that those files were over 5 megs? just a bunch of text, and fecking huge 12 million DPI logo.
I'm not saying we should stay in the dark ages, but we need to start preparing.
I've just been made aware of RFC 3383: http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3833.txt dated August 2004.
Section 2.2 clearly discusses the "security flaw" that Kominsky "discovered" early this year.
from http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/800113: "The DNS protocol specification includes a transaction ID field of 16 bits. If the specification is correctly implemented and the transaction ID is randomly selected with a strong random number generator, an attacker will require, on average, 32,768 attempts to successfully predict the ID."
Just put the real seed back into the code.
obrant: and who the frak releases advisories in DOC format in the 21st century?
ah, faith. civilisations rise and fall on it.
holy crud. I'm never cleaning my apartment again. no, wait. I'll have to start cleaning my apartment from now on.
ok, I'm confused.