yeah, by this argument, musicians who put their music on their web sites for free downloads just to get publicity are in violation of copyright law... that is some good crack they've got down there at SCO, I wish I had some...
if MS doesn't have a mail client that speaks pop3/imap/smtp, then corps will switch they will have to they'll just have to pony up and get exchange servers or else... if the mail client comes with the OS all home users will switch, and all ISPs will be required because of the new "standard" to install MS servers to service all of their customers screaming "I can't get email cause MS supermail won't talk to your system" this is a very nasty little lock in they are trying for
The thing is this, Sequent developed these ideas as white papers first, as concepts and those concepts were patented. Then they implimented those concepts in dynix. Now even if SCO does own all of dynix code (which is questionable) the patents are still simply concepts, which IBM had every right to acquire, and every right to impliment on its own in subsequent systems (AIX, Linux, OS/2 if they wanted) as long as they didn't use dynix implimentation as the base and used the conceptual white papers to develop the AIX and Linux versions of the features.
Well, IBM bought Sequent, how is Sequent not going to "divulge" what they are doing?? IBM owns them, that would be like me buying a house and the old home owner saying, ok well here it is, but you can't use the basement, its off limits because of the terms under which we bought the house. Furthermore, IBM retains the rights to do with as they please anything with any code/process/idea that they own in connection with Unix, thus anything they obtained in the purchase of Sequent would be under IBM's license.
Well, SCO is claiming that the contract under which IBM got system V to develop AIX (and Sequent got system V to develop dynix) made the system V license viral like the GPL meaning the contract said "If you add anything to this, it must be licensed under the same system V license and you may not license that code/IP in any other way". Much like the GPL says "You can make changes but all changes must be licensed under the GPL, and this is the only way you can make and distribute changes". So depending on the wording of the contract and whatever "side letters" IBM may have from AT&T or Novell, this could be a valid claim, and if so would simply mean that some non-IBM developers would have to get the RCU, NUMA, and JFS specifications (IBM vigorously developed these things as "concepts" first and code later) and recreate the features from the white papers describing how the features work.
This virus also appears to cause the system to open the "My Documents" folder whenever a user logs on to the system, it opens that user's my documents folder (at least, that is what it seems like all three of the infected machines display this behavior)
While in theory I agree with you, in practice it just ain't gonna happen, what about the millions of small businesses with 10-20 employees?? How are they supposed to afford an IT guy full time to sit and babysit all of their computers and make sure they are all patched fully?
I do work for a few companies of this size, and whenever I bring up their security issues, and how much it will cost to fix them they balk, so they all got hit today hard (well, not that hard, they all have pretty strick linux firewalls running on old p100 boxes I had laying around, and that saved most of them) but their machines were not patched because they will not pay *anybody* the requisite amount to come to their office every day (or even once a week) and assure that patches have been installed.
The few that were hit (3 out of 50+ win2k boxes I admin) were not hit by msblast.exe but some other strange variant, that caused the RPC service to crash, and cause alot of UI functionality to fail...
At any rate, fully patching the millions of machines that are in this situation is completely unrealistic unless end users actually start caring or MS creates a truly workable remote access tool (no Mstermsrv is not a solution).
I agree that large companies that can afford it should have good staff, but the vast majority of machines are in peoples homes, or in small/medium businesses that simply cannot afford the man hours keeping ms systems up to date requires.
I saw this exact same problem today at one of my client's sites. I do work for a few small businesses, and one of them had this exact same problem, it wasn't msblast (that process wasn't running, and nothing was found by virus scan or the symantec remover) but we showed the exact same problems, the only fix we found (In nearly 8 hours of trying) was to complete reformat and reinstall...)
Hopefully someone will find out what this new virus is and create a removal tool for it, however I think this one might be pretty nasty, it completely hosed word/outlook and norton av on one system and trashed the windows installer service on another causing office and norton av to think they weren't installed, and making it impossible to reinstall them.
We also did not see it scanning, and it seemed to be infecting slowly (the client has 30+ machines all win2k, and after 8 hours only 3 had been infected, those 3 were pulled from the net then but they had many hours to infect the rest of the hosts on the network and didn't).
Any info on this new strain would be greatly appreciated.
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In the last page of the article they mention that the CVD process grows the diamond "brick" at.5 millimeters a day, if thats not a growth rate what is?
They may just be dumb enough to buy the license, but smart enough to know the rest of the computing world will hate them for doing so:)
Sun might fit this bill?
I'm developing a postgresql database right now, and wow does postgre suck for development. You better get all of your table declarations perfect the very first time and never EVER, EVER have to change them AT ALL, because once you have one row of data in there, forget about it. T
he only way to edit a column definition is to delete it and readd it with the correct properties, which means taking the DB offline, copying the whole table to a temporary table, deleting the offending column, readding the column, and then moving all of the data back into the old table from the temporary one, and now since your columns are in a different order, you have to play fun games to get that to work right.. then you can delete the temporary table, and put the DB back online, PURE TORTURE.
MYSQL completely supports editing column definitions on the fly, thought 20 characters was enough for a column, but now you need 50? no problem. Thought 3 sig dig was enough for that decimal field, but now you need 8? Go for it... No such support whatever in PostgreSQL.
Granted, if the treasury did that there would be consequences. If the gamy company started doing as you state, there would also be consequences, namely people would stop playing the game, and the economy would collapse. It's no different from the real world
Um, kinda like the way the treasury could print infinite dollars causing the value to drop dramatically? Sure the game creators would then have to look at inflation/supply/demand issues, but really its not difficult
while true that "one day" that could happen that someone will write feature that infringes an IBM patent that they don't want open source, IBM has also openly stated their goal to replace AIX with Linux, this to me means anything that AIX has Linux will get shortly, and then it will be their main platform so all of their patents will go directly there.
IBM is fighting for IBM, just so happens that IBM does quite a bit of linux business, so in this case fighting for IBM is the same as fighting for linux
I would argue that if the GPL is held up in this case that is fine, if you are distributing software you SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DISTRIBUTING. Arguing that this is above and beyond what should have to be done is silly. That would be like me selling a car and not realizing I left 100,000 cash in the trunk. If I sell the car, and I forget about the cash, I am basically screwed, I mean there are ways that I might be able to get the money back, but most likely I'm out the money.
Right, but I think the patent basically is on "sending electronic messages wirelessly" It is so hideously broad that it covers me sitting in my living room checking my email on WiFi on my laptop, and it would cover ALOHA if anyone ever used it to send messages (or in this case ALOHA would be prior art)
How did this get modded informative?? SCOX is up 5% today, and the futures never said they were going to open down, (in fact they opened up.15 from where they closed last night)
If the larger buttons in windows XP is supposed to be some sort of ease of use thing, then MS is truly lost. I still close windows I mean to minimize often, and the Windows FP (fisher price) interface is horrid I can't stand how much screen real estate it takes up, nor the color scheme, I always turn it off in favor of the classic windows 2000 theme
This seems in a way similar to the way chaos theory deals with all of its measurments Coastlines are of indeterminate length depending on the length of your ruler, temperature is very dependent on the area sampled, thus positions of things in time vary greatly based on the "length" of your time ruler. Not suprising, but very important I think to have chaos type thinking moving into how we deal with time.
I disagree. It is silly to think that if you modify GCC and then compile some software you have to redistribute GCC. That they would be required to release a compiler with an AP is silly.
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yeah,
by this argument, musicians who put their music on their web sites for free downloads just to get publicity are in violation of copyright law... that is some good crack they've got down there at SCO, I wish I had some...
if MS doesn't have a mail client that speaks pop3/imap/smtp, then corps will switch they will have to they'll just have to pony up and get exchange servers or else... if the mail client comes with the OS all home users will switch, and all ISPs will be required because of the new "standard" to install MS servers to service all of their customers screaming "I can't get email cause MS supermail won't talk to your system" this is a very nasty little lock in they are trying for
The thing is this,
Sequent developed these ideas as white papers first, as concepts and those concepts were patented. Then they implimented those concepts in dynix. Now even if SCO does own all of dynix code (which is questionable) the patents are still simply concepts, which IBM had every right to acquire, and every right to impliment on its own in subsequent systems (AIX, Linux, OS/2 if they wanted) as long as they didn't use dynix implimentation as the base and used the conceptual white papers to develop the AIX and Linux versions of the features.
Well,
IBM bought Sequent, how is Sequent not going to "divulge" what they are doing?? IBM owns them, that would be like me buying a house and the old home owner saying, ok well here it is, but you can't use the basement, its off limits because of the terms under which we bought the house. Furthermore, IBM retains the rights to do with as they please anything with any code/process/idea that they own in connection with Unix, thus anything they obtained in the purchase of Sequent would be under IBM's license.
Well,
SCO is claiming that the contract under which IBM got system V to develop AIX (and Sequent got system V to develop dynix) made the system V license viral like the GPL meaning the contract said "If you add anything to this, it must be licensed under the same system V license and you may not license that code/IP in any other way". Much like the GPL says "You can make changes but all changes must be licensed under the GPL, and this is the only way you can make and distribute changes". So depending on the wording of the contract and whatever "side letters" IBM may have from AT&T or Novell, this could be a valid claim, and if so would simply mean that some non-IBM developers would have to get the RCU, NUMA, and JFS specifications (IBM vigorously developed these things as "concepts" first and code later) and recreate the features from the white papers describing how the features work.
This virus also appears to cause the system to open the "My Documents" folder whenever a user logs on to the system, it opens that user's my documents folder (at least, that is what it seems like all three of the infected machines display this behavior)
While in theory I agree with you,
in practice it just ain't gonna happen,
what about the millions of small businesses with 10-20 employees?? How are they supposed to afford an IT guy full time to sit and babysit all of their computers and make sure they are all patched fully?
I do work for a few companies of this size, and whenever I bring up their security issues, and how much it will cost to fix them they balk, so they all got hit today hard (well, not that hard, they all have pretty strick linux firewalls running on old p100 boxes I had laying around, and that saved most of them) but their machines were not patched because they will not pay *anybody* the requisite amount to come to their office every day (or even once a week) and assure that patches have been installed.
The few that were hit (3 out of 50+ win2k boxes I admin) were not hit by msblast.exe but some other strange variant, that caused the RPC service to crash, and cause alot of UI functionality to fail...
At any rate, fully patching the millions of machines that are in this situation is completely unrealistic unless end users actually start caring or MS creates a truly workable remote access tool (no Mstermsrv is not a solution).
I agree that large companies that can afford it should have good staff, but the vast majority of machines are in peoples homes, or in small/medium businesses that simply cannot afford the man hours keeping ms systems up to date requires.
I saw this exact same problem today at one of my client's sites. I do work for a few small businesses, and one of them had this exact same problem, it wasn't msblast (that process wasn't running, and nothing was found by virus scan or the symantec remover) but we showed the exact same problems, the only fix we found (In nearly 8 hours of trying) was to complete reformat and reinstall...)
Hopefully someone will find out what this new virus is and create a removal tool for it, however I think this one might be pretty nasty, it completely hosed word/outlook and norton av on one system and trashed the windows installer service on another causing office and norton av to think they weren't installed, and making it impossible to reinstall them.
We also did not see it scanning, and it seemed to be infecting slowly (the client has 30+ machines all win2k, and after 8 hours only 3 had been infected, those 3 were pulled from the net then but they had many hours to infect the rest of the hosts on the network and didn't).
Any info on this new strain would be greatly appreciated.
In the last page of the article they mention that the CVD process grows the diamond "brick" at .5 millimeters a day, if thats not a growth rate what is?
Wrong,
it was patched on July 17th
Right,
in mysql:
alter table bar alter column foo varchar(50);
how is that 6 liner easier than that?
They may just be dumb enough to buy the license, but smart enough to know the rest of the computing world will hate them for doing so :)
Sun might fit this bill?
I'm developing a postgresql database right now,
and wow does postgre suck for development. You better get all of your table declarations perfect the very first time and never EVER, EVER have to change them AT ALL, because once you have one row of data in there, forget about it. T
he only way to edit a column definition is to delete it and readd it with the correct properties, which means taking the DB offline, copying the whole table to a temporary table, deleting the offending column, readding the column, and then moving all of the data back into the old table from the temporary one, and now since your columns are in a different order, you have to play fun games to get that to work right.. then you can delete the temporary table, and put the DB back online, PURE TORTURE.
MYSQL completely supports editing column definitions on the fly, thought 20 characters was enough for a column, but now you need 50? no problem. Thought 3 sig dig was enough for that decimal field, but now you need 8? Go for it... No such support whatever in PostgreSQL.
Granted, if the treasury did that there would be consequences. If the gamy company started doing as you state, there would also be consequences, namely people would stop playing the game, and the economy would collapse. It's no different from the real world
Um, kinda like the way the treasury could print infinite dollars causing the value to drop dramatically? Sure the game creators would then have to look at inflation/supply/demand issues, but really its not difficult
while true that "one day" that could happen that someone will write feature that infringes an IBM patent that they don't want open source, IBM has also openly stated their goal to replace AIX with Linux, this to me means anything that AIX has Linux will get shortly, and then it will be their main platform so all of their patents will go directly there.
IBM is fighting for IBM, just so happens that IBM does quite a bit of linux business, so in this case fighting for IBM is the same as fighting for linux
I would argue that if the GPL is held up in this case that is fine, if you are distributing software you SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE HELL YOU ARE DISTRIBUTING. Arguing that this is above and beyond what should have to be done is silly. That would be like me selling a car and not realizing I left 100,000 cash in the trunk. If I sell the car, and I forget about the cash, I am basically screwed, I mean there are ways that I might be able to get the money back, but most likely I'm out the money.
Right,
but I think the patent basically is on "sending electronic messages wirelessly"
It is so hideously broad that it covers me sitting in my living room checking my email on WiFi on my laptop, and it would cover ALOHA if anyone ever used it to send messages (or in this case ALOHA would be prior art)
Assuming there are any programers left inside SCO, from the looks of things its all just a bunch of lawyers.
How did this get modded informative?? .15 from where they closed last night)
SCOX is up 5% today,
and the futures never said they were going to open down, (in fact they opened up
If the larger buttons in windows XP is supposed to be some sort of ease of use thing, then MS is truly lost. I still close windows I mean to minimize often, and the Windows FP (fisher price) interface is horrid I can't stand how much screen real estate it takes up, nor the color scheme, I always turn it off in favor of the classic windows 2000 theme
Care to explain how you use up2date to update to the latest release automatically?
This seems in a way similar to the way chaos theory deals with all of its measurments Coastlines are of indeterminate length depending on the length of your ruler, temperature is very dependent on the area sampled, thus positions of things in time vary greatly based on the "length" of your time ruler. Not suprising, but very important I think to have chaos type thinking moving into how we deal with time.
I disagree.
It is silly to think that if you modify GCC and then compile some software you have to redistribute GCC. That they would be required to release a compiler with an AP is silly.