Has anyone even looked at the code? I did. Isnt much there. It's missing parts and there is 0 documentation. How does this = MacOS X? It looks more like a OS Apple/next scraped a wile ago. Everyone is saying APPLE rules over something that as far as/I/ can see isnt even real. Anyone think otherwise? If so did you even get the code to compile/boot?
ESR has basicly made the term worthless. Apple is just doing this for PR. "looky here! we are open source just like Linux/*BSD", they also may get some free R/D out of it. Apple dosnt realy want to give anything back to the community. THINK ABOUT IT. You write tons of code for the APSL you get to pay $500 (or what ever) of a OS you helped make. Apple gets rich off of you for nothing. This goes the same for Netscape and IBM. Don't get me wrong... what they did wasn't 100% a Bad Thing(TM). It makes bug fixs and in house changes real easy and cheap.
You write tons of code for a GPLed OS/program you get an OS/program that you helped make for FREE, for you and the rest of the community. You can also use your/others code for other things. It's all up to you. You want to help Apple/IBM/Netscape/Whoever get richer...only to get screwed out of alot of time/work, thats your choice. You wan't to realy make software better and give something back to the community, fine, use the GLP...your choice. You may not get tons of $$ this way...but at least your not making someone else rich off of your work, and your time/work isnt going to waste. And NOONE can ever take the code way from you. It will always be open and GPLed.
PS: i think the Debian people are RIGHT on this. They realy do care about the community and the software. ESR just cares about his EGO. He likes being Apple's/netscape's/IBM's/any_big_corp's piss boy. I have lost all respect for him. And i wish all media would just stop caring what he says. They think he is the leader of the "community". --- my $0.02,flame on!
>>Their actions increase the freedom of Mac developers... How so?!? Can i use some of Apple's code in my OWN programs? What ever work i put into coding for Apple "Opensource" has to stay with Apple "open source".
With the GPL i can take some code from emacs or the linux kernel and put it into my program and still be able to release it. The GPL lets companys like Redhat and Bob's Linux computers and bait 'n' tackle release software...and do what they want with it. (as long as it's with the GPL)
Give slashdot a brake. I dont think most webserver's have to do the work that Slashdot's does. Most big websites are run by a team of people with backup servers etc. Slashdot runs on one server, is run mainly by a guy who was in school most of the time, and was/is writing the slashdot server software on the fly!
>>Look how scared Sun has been to open Java. Sun >>now talks about opening up Java >> and Solaris,
They had no real choice if they wanted JAVA to take off. And for Solaris...it's on it's death bed. Sun gets it's money from hardware. So i dont realy think they care if you put Linux or Solaris on their sparc's.
Redhat still has to and does use the GPL. Redhat, unlike Apple and Netscape CAN'T turn arownd one day and screw over the programers. Redhat at can't one day say they OWN linux...and they also can't say what you can and can't do with the code. The GPL is for the good of the people and the software...the APL/NPL or what ever is for the good of Apple and Netscape.
Apple making programs open source is a good thing..it lets companies make in house bug fixes etc...BUT apple/Netscape/whoever making programs opensource just to cut R/D costs and get good PR is a BAD thing.
when i try to load the module it makes i get this: /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol misc_deregister /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __wake_up /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __generic_copy_from_user /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol vsprintf /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol kmalloc /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __get_free_pages /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol local_bh_count /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol panic /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol free_pages /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol do_gettimeofday /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol local_irq_count /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol del_timer /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __pollwait /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol kfree /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol misc_register /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol mem_map /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol sprintf /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol jiffies /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol printk /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol add_timer /tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __generic_copy_to_user
Im getting that same error. I use 2.2.3 on what used to be redhat. I'll see if i can find a fix and then post it. If anyone else finds a fix please post it.
Hey what a GREAT WAY to boost banner views, eh?
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it wacked my Netscape on Linux too...i'll bet they used that MS version of Java. Netscape never has a problem with real Java.
This site runs Windoze...not REDHAT!
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What...you saw the fake Redhat logo and thought.."Gee, looky there...it/MUST/ run linux. They must be cool!"?
Not always...They arnt top of the line but they work. I have a TXproII mobo. It's a socket7 with 1MegL2 cache,onboard Video,and sound. This plus a AMD 300Mhz 3dnow ran me about $125 about 4 or 5 months ago. Can you even get a INTEL CPU for $125?!?
If its a "SoundPro" sound card it may never work right. I can get Linux to see the soundchip...BUT you need the DOS/Windoze software to just turn the INPUTs/OUTPUTS on! I can play sounds...just cant hear them
the newest MacOS8 (MacOS 8.5) only runs on the PPC CPU's....up untill that 8.X ran on the old 68K's. Thats ok becaue my 68K Mac runs NetBSD, not macOS.
micosoft.com uses a ton of NT servers to keep it running...when one crashes the rest take up the slack...also, I dont think microsoft.com runs the stock NT. They seem to have their own version. Ever Queso them?
slashdot.org is 1 server (well...there is cachedot, but i dont think that does much other then cache).
If most people use Windows who cares? Do I need to spend hours online just preaching"LINUX RULZ, WINDOZE DR00LZ"...NO. I just go on being happy with Linux. Not because it is not MS, But because the way it is. I like not crashing, I like a OS that is logical. I like knowing why it does something, and how it did it. I could care less if MS whent away...or if they ruled the earth..Why? Because my linux box and the other linux users like me will still go on.
Alot of the "LinuxBigots" realy do give Linux a bad name. I see them in going into MS-OS(or MacOS) chat rooms, or MS-OS message boards and posting their AntiMS crap. Most non linux users view the Linux using group as HS hippys or something. Think about it...would you want 100's of MS users coming into your Linux message boards or chat rooms and ranting and raving about how we are all dumb for not using their OS of choice? We could all do alot more good for Linux coding or making better docs then we do when we try to convert "The MS using Sheep". Face it, if they realy like their OS then not much will make them switch. Just like not much would make me switch to MS. It dosnt to anyone any good if you sound like a nutcase MacHead or a bible pusher. I don't need it, i don't want it, so leave me the hell alone.
Of course thats just my opinion...I could be wrong:)
I was part of the one vs Packard Bell. Back in the 286 days when they where using used parts in PC's that they where selling as new. It was also over them not for filling their part when it came to tech support & warrantys
I have a 420Meg Seagate that has been going strong for years. Then there are the ST-225's(20Meg MFM). I have a pair of them that used to run my BBS 24/7. They still work fine and they are 12+ years old.
This new drive will be on the min requirements list for Win2K + Office + IE. Now if they just start selling RAM by the GIG MS can start selling their new OS:)
He was just posting the info of someone who owns a site that does the same thing.The only thing is is that the AC left out some other info that the guy he was posting about didnt on his site. Like his SS# and DL#
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Has anyone even looked at the code? I did. Isnt much there. It's missing parts and there is 0 documentation. How does this = MacOS X? It looks more like a OS Apple/next scraped a wile ago. Everyone is saying APPLE rules over something that as far as /I/ can see isnt even real. Anyone think otherwise? If so did you even get the code to compile/boot?
ESR has basicly made the term worthless. Apple is just doing this for PR. "looky here! we are open source just like Linux/*BSD", they also may get some free R/D out of it. Apple dosnt realy want to give anything back to the community. THINK ABOUT IT. You write tons of code for the APSL you get to pay $500 (or what ever) of a OS you helped make. Apple gets rich off of you for nothing. This goes the same for Netscape and IBM. Don't get me wrong... what they did wasn't 100% a Bad Thing(TM). It makes bug fixs and in house changes real easy and cheap.
You write tons of code for a GPLed OS/program you get an OS/program that you helped make for FREE, for you and the rest of the community. You can also use your/others code for other things.
It's all up to you. You want to help Apple/IBM/Netscape/Whoever get richer...only to get screwed out of alot of time/work, thats your choice.
You wan't to realy make software better and give something back to the community, fine, use the GLP...your choice. You may not get tons of $$ this way...but at least your not making someone else rich off of your work, and your time/work isnt going to waste. And NOONE can ever take the code way from you. It will always be open and GPLed.
PS: i think the Debian people are RIGHT on this. They realy do care about the community and the software. ESR just cares about his EGO. He likes being Apple's/netscape's/IBM's/any_big_corp's piss boy. I have lost all respect for him. And i wish all media would just stop caring what he says. They think he is the leader of the "community".
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my $0.02,flame on!
>>Their actions increase the freedom of Mac developers...
How so?!? Can i use some of Apple's code in my OWN programs? What ever work i put into coding for Apple "Opensource" has to stay with Apple "open source".
With the GPL i can take some code from emacs or the linux kernel and put it into my program and still be able to release it. The GPL lets companys like Redhat and Bob's Linux computers and bait 'n' tackle release software...and do what they want with it. (as long as it's with the GPL)
Give slashdot a brake. I dont think most webserver's have to do the work that Slashdot's does. Most big websites are run by a team of people with backup servers etc. Slashdot runs on one server, is run mainly by a guy who was in school most of the time, and was/is writing the slashdot server software on the fly!
>>Look how scared Sun has been to open Java. Sun >>now talks about opening up Java
>> and Solaris,
They had no real choice if they wanted JAVA to take off. And for Solaris...it's on it's death bed. Sun gets it's money from hardware. So i dont realy think they care if you put Linux or Solaris on their sparc's.
but he is right...
Redhat still has to and does use the GPL. Redhat, unlike Apple and Netscape CAN'T turn arownd one day and screw over the programers. Redhat at can't one day say they OWN linux...and they also can't say what you can and can't do with the code. The GPL is for the good of the people and the software...the APL/NPL or what ever is for the good of Apple and Netscape.
Apple making programs open source is a good thing..it lets companies make in house bug fixes etc...BUT apple/Netscape/whoever making programs opensource just to cut R/D costs and get good PR is a BAD thing.
when i try to load the module it makes i get this:
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol misc_deregister
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __wake_up
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __generic_copy_from_user
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol vsprintf
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol kmalloc
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __get_free_pages
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol local_bh_count
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol panic
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol free_pages
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol do_gettimeofday
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol local_irq_count
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol del_timer
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __pollwait
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol kfree
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol misc_register
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol mem_map
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol sprintf
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol jiffies
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol printk
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol add_timer
/tmp/vmware-tmp/vmmon-up-2.2.3: unresolved symbol __generic_copy_to_user
Im getting that same error. I use 2.2.3 on what used to be redhat. I'll see if i can find a fix and then post it. If anyone else finds a fix please post it.
it wacked my Netscape on Linux too...i'll bet they used that MS version of Java. Netscape never has a problem with real Java.
What...you saw the fake Redhat logo and thought.."Gee, looky there...it /MUST/ run linux. They must be cool!"?
hmm...whois sez the site is based in WA
...I run Linux2.2.3 and Xfree86 3.3.3 one it and all is well. Older versions of X didnt support the SiS VGA chipset
Not always...They arnt top of the line but they work. I have a TXproII mobo. It's a socket7 with 1MegL2 cache,onboard Video,and sound. This plus a AMD 300Mhz 3dnow ran me about $125 about 4 or 5 months ago. Can you even get a INTEL CPU for $125?!?
If its a "SoundPro" sound card it may never work right. I can get Linux to see the soundchip...BUT you need the DOS/Windoze software to just turn the INPUTs/OUTPUTS on! I can play sounds...just cant hear them
The new server runs good and if you get those new things to work it will kick ass!
the newest MacOS8 (MacOS 8.5) only runs on the PPC CPU's....up untill that 8.X ran on the old 68K's. Thats ok becaue my 68K Mac runs NetBSD, not macOS.
micosoft.com uses a ton of NT servers to keep it running...when one crashes the rest take up the slack...also, I dont think microsoft.com runs the stock NT. They seem to have their own version. Ever Queso them?
slashdot.org is 1 server (well...there is cachedot, but i dont think that does much other then cache).
If most people use Windows who cares? Do I need to spend hours online just preaching"LINUX RULZ, WINDOZE DR00LZ"...NO. I just go on being happy with Linux. Not because it is not MS, But because the way it is. I like not crashing, I like a OS that is logical. I like knowing why it does something, and how it did it. I could care less if MS whent away...or if they ruled the earth..Why? Because my linux box and the other linux users like me will still go on.
:)
Alot of the "LinuxBigots" realy do give Linux a bad name. I see them in going into MS-OS(or MacOS) chat rooms, or MS-OS message boards and posting their AntiMS crap. Most non linux users view the Linux using group as HS hippys or something. Think about it...would you want 100's of MS users coming into your Linux message boards or chat rooms and ranting and raving about how we are all dumb for not using their OS of choice?
We could all do alot more good for Linux coding or making better docs then we do when we try to convert "The MS using Sheep". Face it, if they realy like their OS then not much will make them switch. Just like not much would make me switch to MS. It dosnt to anyone any good if you sound like a nutcase MacHead or a bible pusher. I don't need it, i don't want it, so leave me the hell alone.
Of course thats just my opinion...I could be wrong
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ya ya...my spelling sucks..so what
I was part of the one vs Packard Bell. Back in the 286 days when they where using used parts in PC's that they where selling as new. It was also over them not for filling their part when it came to tech support & warrantys
I have a 420Meg Seagate that has been going strong for years. Then there are the ST-225's(20Meg MFM). I have a pair of them that used to run my BBS 24/7. They still work fine and they are 12+ years old.
im only using 48% of my 3.5gig Fireball drive. And my Linux IPMasq gateway server only has a 80Meg drive. Its nice not having a OS that dosnt bloat :)
This new drive will be on the min requirements list for Win2K + Office + IE. Now if they just start selling RAM by the GIG MS can start selling their new OS :)
He was just posting the info of someone who owns a site that does the same thing.The only thing is is that the AC left out some other info that the guy he was posting about didnt on his site. Like his SS# and DL#
how would you like it if you where put on this page with a price on your head?
they list peoples:
home addresses
home phone#'s
SS#'s
DiverL#'s
PIC of the people
hight
hair color.
etc...
Im all for free speach...but this site is WAY over the line.
havnt you seen the MSNBC and MS ads on CNN?