So they make the cockpit inaccessable. They just say "Ok, let us in or we kill everyone out here." Or, they quietly tell the attendant to go in to bring food or something or they will kill her.
It wouldn't work. Remember, most hijacking experiences don't result in the plain going down. And until now, nothing like this has ever happened.
There was this guy talking about how well the WTC towers actually did in the attach. Imagine the forces put on those towers when a HUGE airliner crashed into them. Amazing. It was the heat of the fuel that weakened the structure.
When asked if there was a way to prevent that from happening he said that the metal could be coated with some sort of material that would allow it to withstand the tempretures of burning jet fuel, but it would be very very expensive. He followed up by asking if we want to double the construction cost of every building put up from now on to do this in the off chance that something like this might happen again.
There is no way to stop terrorism. No possible way. Somebody is going to come up with some way of killing people if they want to. I can see of fanatic having some kind of balloons filled with sarin or something, sugically implanted in their body, boarding a plane or going down in the NYC subway and slashing their stomach open releasing the chemical.
Ok, maybe not that, but the point is that you can't prevent things from happening. Someone will figure out a way.
Do we want the cost of buildings and air flight to dramatically increase due to new regulations? If it would work, sure, life is worth more than money. But all efforts would be just to give us a false sense of security.
Are you unhappy with RR? I move around a lot, so I've had everything from 64k ISDN, 128k ISDN, DSL, @home, and now Road Runner.
Road Runner is the best by far. Maybe it's just this area, but I have only had one problem in the last 8 months since I moved here, and that was only for about an hour.
Speed is consistantly fast, I can connect to my machine to do anything I want from the outside, and news groups just fly.
A guy I work with (a non-tech) was aking if he should switch from dial-up to cable.
He said, "I bet you can download a lot of dirty pictures over cable."
I responded, "I don't download dirty pictures anymore."
You may not HAVE to put things in the tray, but most applications do it automatically. They don't take advantage of the resources available because they are programmed for the lowest common denominator.
Why is it that almost every program installed these days either puts an icon on the quick launch bar, the tray, the desktop, or all three?
I've had quite a few homosexual friends. All of them are very intelligent and have achieved great things.
From talking to some of them, I kind of drew up with my own hypothesis about this. Is it correct? Universal? I don't know.
While in High School they where outcasts. They didn't participate in regular school functions because they where constantly ridiculed. No football games and school dances. Most social clubs didn't want them.
With all of this free time and freedom from the standard "clique" mentality, they took refuge in books. They had a few close friends. They didn't really have casual acquaintances to waste their time. The friends they did have where REAL friends. A very close knit group where they could express themselves freely, unlike with the rest of the regular high school society.
When they moved on to college their lifestyle was accepted a little better. They had spent the last several years pretty much alone absorbing knowledge, and where ideally suited to excel at whatever path they chose to take.
I think this scenerio is true for quite a lot of homosexuals. Change homosexual to computer geek, and it still holds up pretty well, IMHO.
I have to agree with the book idea. "Windows NT Server 4.0 for NetWare Administrators" by O'Reilly was a great benefit to me after a lot of my clients started yanking perfectly good NetWare boxes to put in crappy NT. Well, it was good for me at least because they had to call me twice as much as before just to keep everything running.
It is broken down by activities and problems that you may face. "You know how to do xyz in Novell, here's how to accomplish the same thing in NT."
but what's the fascination with automatic refrigerator/store interaction?
Because it's about the only slightly interesting idea for turning an appliance into an "Appliance" that anybody has come up with.
Seriously, this might be good for staples, but what other good could come of it? Other than things like eggs, milk, cheese, butter, and beer, the things in my refrigerator where either purchased for a particular recipe, or are leftovers.
Here here! This looks like the only way to make installs and things somewhat user friendly without getting rid of the notion of "root".
I might suggest that in idiot mode they might even not mention root, just ask for their administration password or something. "root" is confusing to people who don't have the concepts down. Root? Root of what? Is that like c:\?
Go to your local Home Depot/Lowes. They sell huge sheets of it for bathrooms for like $15-$20. It looks and works just like a real whiteboard, but is MUCH cheaper. They obviously don't have frames, but that's not a big issue.
We where doing a complete reconfiguration of a 17 campus school district over a 6 month period. In the workroom we where given to coordinate all of this we bought about 15 of these things and screwed them onto the walls. It was great. We mapped out the whole system.
I understand exactly what you mean about human interaction.
Many people would say I have a pretty great job.
Here is my situation for the last 4 1/2 years: My company pays my car note, pays my living expenses, cable modem service, hardware/software/book allowance, and gives me a nice hefty salary. I don't have an office, I work at home. I generally spend one afternoon a week out of the house at a client's site. The rest of the time is custom programming, whatever they need for whatever platform they need it on.
I usually work most of the night, have a few drinks as the sun comes up, then sleep away most of the day. When I get up I put on my robe, have coffee, turn up the stereo, and do a work/check slashdot cycle until I'm finished. I work much better at night.
The bosses don't complain because apparently all of the people I do work for are happy. They let me do what I want, and they know that if they call before noon that they'll probably be waking me up. This isn't a computer company, it's a management firm and I do computer work for their clients. I'm the only programmer, and nobody else at the company knows what I'm talking about, so there's no politics involved, no questioning what I say, no committees, no meetings at all. They love that I've been getting their clients to deploy Linux all over the place.
Well, I hate it! Don't get me wrong, I loved it for the first year or so after having to wear a suit to work for the 3 previous years, but I can't handle the solitude anymore. I know that if it weren't for/. that I would be totally insane by now.
There is no distinction between work hours and personal hours. Because I work most of the night, then sleep most of the day, I very rarely get out to see other people. The 50-60 emails I get a day are about the only interaction I have with people.
The thing I really miss is having a group of like-minded tech people around me to discuss stuff with. To bounce ideas off of, or just...
This is assuming, of course, that the applications that the client want to run are supported by win4lin.
I may be wrong, but the last time I looked there where quite a few high end applications that would not work under win4lin. These are the same set of applications that have not been recreated for Linux.
If I am wrong, please tell me. I'd love to tell people that they could run QuickBooks 2001 and IE 6 under Win4Lin. It would make my life a whole lot easier.
I've got to respect your initiative. I've always wanted to do something like this, maybe you can help me resolve or merely get over the problem I'm having.
What do you tell your client a month from now, or a year from now even, when they receive an attachment in a proprietary MS format from a major customer and they can't open it?
What do you tell them when their CPA suggests they start using QuickBooks? No Open Source eqivilent will do because he needs data in the exact same format from all of his clients for use on his system.
How do you explain to them that they can't view certain types of media, or that some websites they go to may not look or work exactly as intended? The secretaries will hate you if they can't get all of the stupid greeting cards people are always sending them.
They may say that all they do is word processing, but something will come up. It almost always does.
I guess making sure that the client was educated about the possible pitfalls before making the decision to go this route would protect you a bit, but I just don't see how well that conversation would go.
Please trust that I'm not trolling here. I'd love to do what you have described here. I set up small to mid-sized offices all the time. I do use Linux now on the server side almost exclusively when a file/web/dhcp server is required.
Users that are used to AutoCad want to use AutoCad.
However, if they're using AutoCad, their workstation is a major tool to them and you could easily justify a hot one. The AutoCad guy would probably just use the Linux box for file storage.
That would take a HUGE server to accomodate a handfull of people.
And how would licensing work for something like that? I'm not sure about vmware, but I know that Microsoft would find some objection to you installing one copy of Windows 98 and sharing it via Linux with 50 users.
So you're suggesting that new hardware is always going to be more stable? I'd like to find out where you're buying your stuff.
Quality in the last few years is total crap. It's almost impossible to find retail equipment that doesn't cut corners wherever possible.
Now, assuming speed and the latest technology isn't an issue at all, I'd certainly trust some of the old huge, heavy boxes I have here over just about anything that you can buy new in the sub-$1000 market.
Power supplies that die way too soon, a CPU fan that craps out and burns your processor up in 3 minutes, flimsy cases that cut the back of your hand because they're too cheap to finish the edges, sorry case fans that start rattling after a few months... the list goes on.
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Why would you do this? Does it cost you any more to purchase the book when you give someone credit for it? Then why bother?
Why not let someone make a bit of money off of it. You're just being petty.
So they make the cockpit inaccessable. They just say "Ok, let us in or we kill everyone out here." Or, they quietly tell the attendant to go in to bring food or something or they will kill her.
It wouldn't work. Remember, most hijacking experiences don't result in the plain going down. And until now, nothing like this has ever happened.
There was this guy talking about how well the WTC towers actually did in the attach. Imagine the forces put on those towers when a HUGE airliner crashed into them. Amazing. It was the heat of the fuel that weakened the structure.
When asked if there was a way to prevent that from happening he said that the metal could be coated with some sort of material that would allow it to withstand the tempretures of burning jet fuel, but it would be very very expensive. He followed up by asking if we want to double the construction cost of every building put up from now on to do this in the off chance that something like this might happen again.
There is no way to stop terrorism. No possible way. Somebody is going to come up with some way of killing people if they want to. I can see of fanatic having some kind of balloons filled with sarin or something, sugically implanted in their body, boarding a plane or going down in the NYC subway and slashing their stomach open releasing the chemical.
Ok, maybe not that, but the point is that you can't prevent things from happening. Someone will figure out a way.
Do we want the cost of buildings and air flight to dramatically increase due to new regulations? If it would work, sure, life is worth more than money. But all efforts would be just to give us a false sense of security.
I was thinking about the ceramic knives that Ming Tsai uses on his show on FoodTV. Those things are VERY sharp!
I'm assuming that you could have them produced to contain no metal in the handle. Just keep it in your pants and walk on through.
Am I wrong? I hadn't thought about this untill today. I see it as a major threat.
Are you unhappy with RR? I move around a lot, so I've had everything from 64k ISDN, 128k ISDN, DSL, @home, and now Road Runner.
Road Runner is the best by far. Maybe it's just this area, but I have only had one problem in the last 8 months since I moved here, and that was only for about an hour.
Speed is consistantly fast, I can connect to my machine to do anything I want from the outside, and news groups just fly.
A guy I work with (a non-tech) was aking if he should switch from dial-up to cable.
He said, "I bet you can download a lot of dirty pictures over cable."
I responded, "I don't download dirty pictures anymore."
He looked a bit confused and asked, "Really?"
I said, "No, now I download dirty MOVIES!"
He ordered it that afternoon.
You may not HAVE to put things in the tray, but most applications do it automatically. They don't take advantage of the resources available because they are programmed for the lowest common denominator.
Why is it that almost every program installed these days either puts an icon on the quick launch bar, the tray, the desktop, or all three?
Brief flirtation with OS/2? OS/2 was developed by Microsoft and IBM.
I've had quite a few homosexual friends. All of them are very intelligent and have achieved great things.
From talking to some of them, I kind of drew up with my own hypothesis about this. Is it correct? Universal? I don't know.
While in High School they where outcasts. They didn't participate in regular school functions because they where constantly ridiculed. No football games and school dances. Most social clubs didn't want them.
With all of this free time and freedom from the standard "clique" mentality, they took refuge in books. They had a few close friends. They didn't really have casual acquaintances to waste their time. The friends they did have where REAL friends. A very close knit group where they could express themselves freely, unlike with the rest of the regular high school society.
When they moved on to college their lifestyle was accepted a little better. They had spent the last several years pretty much alone absorbing knowledge, and where ideally suited to excel at whatever path they chose to take.
I think this scenerio is true for quite a lot of homosexuals. Change homosexual to computer geek, and it still holds up pretty well, IMHO.
I have to agree with the book idea. "Windows NT Server 4.0 for NetWare Administrators" by O'Reilly was a great benefit to me after a lot of my clients started yanking perfectly good NetWare boxes to put in crappy NT. Well, it was good for me at least because they had to call me twice as much as before just to keep everything running.
It is broken down by activities and problems that you may face. "You know how to do xyz in Novell, here's how to accomplish the same thing in NT."
Great concept.
but what's the fascination with automatic refrigerator/store interaction?
Because it's about the only slightly interesting idea for turning an appliance into an "Appliance" that anybody has come up with.
Seriously, this might be good for staples, but what other good could come of it? Other than things like eggs, milk, cheese, butter, and beer, the things in my refrigerator where either purchased for a particular recipe, or are leftovers.
I know when I need beer.
Here here! This looks like the only way to make installs and things somewhat user friendly without getting rid of the notion of "root".
I might suggest that in idiot mode they might even not mention root, just ask for their administration password or something. "root" is confusing to people who don't have the concepts down. Root? Root of what? Is that like c:\?
So how could you get away with reading /. all day if everyone can see your monitor?
Hmmmmmmmmmm?
Go to your local Home Depot/Lowes. They sell huge sheets of it for bathrooms for like $15-$20. It looks and works just like a real whiteboard, but is MUCH cheaper. They obviously don't have frames, but that's not a big issue.
We where doing a complete reconfiguration of a 17 campus school district over a 6 month period. In the workroom we where given to coordinate all of this we bought about 15 of these things and screwed them onto the walls. It was great. We mapped out the whole system.
I understand exactly what you mean about human interaction.
/. that I would be totally insane by now.
...
Many people would say I have a pretty great job.
Here is my situation for the last 4 1/2 years: My company pays my car note, pays my living expenses, cable modem service, hardware/software/book allowance, and gives me a nice hefty salary. I don't have an office, I work at home. I generally spend one afternoon a week out of the house at a client's site. The rest of the time is custom programming, whatever they need for whatever platform they need it on.
I usually work most of the night, have a few drinks as the sun comes up, then sleep away most of the day. When I get up I put on my robe, have coffee, turn up the stereo, and do a work/check slashdot cycle until I'm finished. I work much better at night.
The bosses don't complain because apparently all of the people I do work for are happy. They let me do what I want, and they know that if they call before noon that they'll probably be waking me up. This isn't a computer company, it's a management firm and I do computer work for their clients. I'm the only programmer, and nobody else at the company knows what I'm talking about, so there's no politics involved, no questioning what I say, no committees, no meetings at all. They love that I've been getting their clients to deploy Linux all over the place.
Well, I hate it! Don't get me wrong, I loved it for the first year or so after having to wear a suit to work for the 3 previous years, but I can't handle the solitude anymore. I know that if it weren't for
There is no distinction between work hours and personal hours. Because I work most of the night, then sleep most of the day, I very rarely get out to see other people. The 50-60 emails I get a day are about the only interaction I have with people.
The thing I really miss is having a group of like-minded tech people around me to discuss stuff with. To bounce ideas off of, or just
Anybody want to swap for awhile?
Unless they're going to hold you hostage until they try it, just lie.
One of each is too many.
It's unusable.
So you just aren't keeping track of which bugs get fixed then? So how do you know if they have been fixed or not?
Why would we never go back? I don't get it. Ok, maybe on Linux I wouldn't go back to 4.x after using mozilla, but what about Windows?
What compelling reason would I possibly have for using Mozilla over IE, political issues aside?
4 year uptimes for NetWare are not that uncommon, especially in a controlled environment where they are assured of consistant power.
Linux based car mp3 players come to mind immediately. Who wants to wait 10 seconds after they hit the power on button before something happens.
So then does that require the client to select which of those 3 channels their access point is on, or does it search automatically?
This is assuming, of course, that the applications that the client want to run are supported by win4lin.
I may be wrong, but the last time I looked there where quite a few high end applications that would not work under win4lin. These are the same set of applications that have not been recreated for Linux.
If I am wrong, please tell me. I'd love to tell people that they could run QuickBooks 2001 and IE 6 under Win4Lin. It would make my life a whole lot easier.
I've got to respect your initiative. I've always wanted to do something like this, maybe you can help me resolve or merely get over the problem I'm having.
What do you tell your client a month from now, or a year from now even, when they receive an attachment in a proprietary MS format from a major customer and they can't open it?
What do you tell them when their CPA suggests they start using QuickBooks? No Open Source eqivilent will do because he needs data in the exact same format from all of his clients for use on his system.
How do you explain to them that they can't view certain types of media, or that some websites they go to may not look or work exactly as intended? The secretaries will hate you if they can't get all of the stupid greeting cards people are always sending them.
They may say that all they do is word processing, but something will come up. It almost always does.
I guess making sure that the client was educated about the possible pitfalls before making the decision to go this route would protect you a bit, but I just don't see how well that conversation would go.
Please trust that I'm not trolling here. I'd love to do what you have described here. I set up small to mid-sized offices all the time. I do use Linux now on the server side almost exclusively when a file/web/dhcp server is required.
Any insight?
AutoCad: LinuxCAD at http://softwareforge.com/
Users that are used to AutoCad want to use AutoCad.
However, if they're using AutoCad, their workstation is a major tool to them and you could easily justify a hot one. The AutoCad guy would probably just use the Linux box for file storage.
I'm hoping that was sarcasm. ;)
That would take a HUGE server to accomodate a handfull of people.
And how would licensing work for something like that? I'm not sure about vmware, but I know that Microsoft would find some objection to you installing one copy of Windows 98 and sharing it via Linux with 50 users.
So you're suggesting that new hardware is always going to be more stable? I'd like to find out where you're buying your stuff.
Quality in the last few years is total crap. It's almost impossible to find retail equipment that doesn't cut corners wherever possible.
Now, assuming speed and the latest technology isn't an issue at all, I'd certainly trust some of the old huge, heavy boxes I have here over just about anything that you can buy new in the sub-$1000 market.
Power supplies that die way too soon, a CPU fan that craps out and burns your processor up in 3 minutes, flimsy cases that cut the back of your hand because they're too cheap to finish the edges, sorry case fans that start rattling after a few months... the list goes on.