First, great overview of the N|C - they also make great X terminals, but that's another/. post:)
Fourth, there are no instant messaging clients. Yes, there's an IRC client (that can't keep logs, dammit) but I assume that anyone
wanting to get new users online wouldn't want to try take a newbie up the IRC learning curve right off the bat. For some users, this is
the thing that would make the device useless. (Well, that and the fact that it doesn't run AOL.)
The latest N|C CD (1.2) inclides Tik, so now users can get on AOL's IM network and chat with all the saps^H^H^H^H users there. A good thing, IMHO. The CD can be had by asking for one, or you can download the ISO if you're impatient:)
Finally, it comes with only a couple of games and they're ugly. Workable, but ugly. That needs to be fixed
Please don't make the mistake of lumping NIC in with some of the other spoilsports - they've been _extremely_ helpful with the community in exploring new possibilities with this box.
Please have a look at the archives for the thinknic-tech mailing list at egroups - you'll notice lots of @oracle.com addresses in the responses. They've been very supportive of the burgeoning developer community for these boxes.
As a side note, we've just rolled out 125 of these boxes as X-based terminals on our High School campus - booting completely off the network and they just plain rock. My hat's off to the company for producing such a flexible piece of hardware!
Regrettably, snail mail is probably best...
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All I've read and heard about having an impact on legislators tells me that snail mail is most effective, then comes telephones, and only then e-mail. It's far too easy to ignore e-mail, but bags of letters (which imply more effort on the sender's part) make a statement.
I walk into a RadioShack ("You've got questions, we've got shrugs!"), and they hand me a plastic bag with a piece of hardware, installation instructions, and a CD sleeve which I assume contains a CD and some hardware.
The plastic bag does not contain that "By breaking this seal..." acceptance of any license - just a generic plastic bag...
The installation instructions do not contain any mention of a hardware license...
The CD sleeve does contain the text "Opening this software constitutes acceptance...". Fine. I don't really want to use the software anyway - I just want to play with the moderately cool hardware.
RadioShack did not have me sign any agreement or even imply that such an agreement between me and DigitalConvergence exists.
To me, this gives the impression that I have a nifty new toy with no strings attached... can anyone see where my logic is off?
BTW, I used to manage a RadioShack store, and I remember the first time I saw "You've got questions, we've got shrugs!" in a Usenet post - LMAO!
GPL'ed, full version for Windows, beta for Linux. http://leocad.gerf.org. Quite an extensive parts database, really nice output for creating building instructions for use later.
Check them out - I fully believe X terminals are a wonderful way to reduce costs - hardware, software, and management - when compared to more traditional desktop computer systems.
Are details of the internals of OS X available?
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I'm actually doing a study of Mac OS X Server for my OS design course (assigned just this week). Does anyone have any pointers for gut level info on this OS? Or can I just use info I find on BSD4.4 - iow, is it true blue Unix underneath, as far as handling memory, processes, i/o, etc.?
I'm done buying VHS - period! Particularly the Star Wars flicks - I now have three boxed sets of Episodes IV-VI (first-release, THX, and Special Edition WideScreen - jeesh). I refuse to go through it again - besides, Episode I wasn't all that great anyway - but I do want it in my collection.
I've had the NEC SuperScript 860 for about two years now, and the 870 looks like a pretty straightforward replacement (in fact, I just recommended two of them for use here at work).
Quick first page out, and I get pretty close to 8ppm on straight text. It's surprising that more manufacturers aren't licensing the Adobe PrintGear technology that these use, as it seems a pretty slick setup.
Stop your clients now, boys and girls, because I've deduced that the SETI@home client is really used to decipher and decode all communications, voice, data, and visual that's happened in America in the past 24 hours. Right now, your box is crunching away on the latest drug dealer's cell phone conversation! Stop now, or be sucked into the machine!
{SARCASM} A flame of my sig line got moderated up? Ah well, the perils of a free forum:-)
Yes, the quote is certainly from Grouch_o_ Marx. I'll pull out my MLA handbook shortly and make the proper attribution in an appropriate format... {/SARCASM}
I read this book last year, and thouroughly enjoyed it - except for the annoying green ink the pages are printed in:-)
Note to Booksellers - I bought this book for one reason: the first chapter was available online at amazon.com. Once I'd read that, I ordered it immediately. Posting first chapters is the way to overcome the one deficiency of buying books online, the inability to thumb through it.
I'm currently working on just this concept. I'm purchasing or salvaging 486's (current best price, $119 w/ monitor) and using them as X terminals.
I'm using a single boot floppy for each machine, and they then mount root from an NFS server. Performance is great, you certainly would not know you were working on a 486. And, in addition to the cost savings and more than acceptable performance, administration is a breeze.
The kit I started with is developed by the author of linuxconf. You may find it here: xterm.
Nice to see ZD calling Mindcraft on their, ummm, "creative" testing procedures. And pointing out that ZD's own tests have shown Linux outperforming NT on smaller, more typical servers.
Marketing will win - the programmer will start at 0 thus the marketer will reach 10 first.
[lancer@mybox app]$ lpr COPYING
Am I missing something here?
At least try to get your facts straight...
In FY2000, MSFT paid $4.2B in taxes, which is quite a bit more than one CENT - in fact, it was 34% of their pre-tax net income.
If you're going to harp on them, at least do it with facts...
The latest N|C CD (1.2) inclides Tik, so now users can get on AOL's IM network and chat with all the saps^H^H^H^H users there. A good thing, IMHO. The CD can be had by asking for one, or you can download the ISO if you're impatient :)
1.2 also adds Tetris :)
Please have a look at the archives for the thinknic-tech mailing list at egroups - you'll notice lots of @oracle.com addresses in the responses. They've been very supportive of the burgeoning developer community for these boxes.
As a side note, we've just rolled out 125 of these boxes as X-based terminals on our High School campus - booting completely off the network and they just plain rock. My hat's off to the company for producing such a flexible piece of hardware!
My $.02...
http://www.seul.org/edu/
The focus is on using Linux in education at all levels, K-College, both in the classroom as well as administration.
Hope this helps!
- The plastic bag does not contain that "By breaking this seal..." acceptance of any license - just a generic plastic bag...
- The installation instructions do not contain any mention of a hardware license...
- The CD sleeve does contain the text "Opening this software constitutes acceptance...". Fine. I don't really want to use the software anyway - I just want to play with the moderately cool hardware.
- RadioShack did not have me sign any agreement or even imply that such an agreement between me and DigitalConvergence exists.
To me, this gives the impression that I have a nifty new toy with no strings attached... can anyone see where my logic is off?BTW, I used to manage a RadioShack store, and I remember the first time I saw "You've got questions, we've got shrugs!" in a Usenet post - LMAO!
A geek is a nerd with social skills!
GPL'ed, full version for Windows, beta for Linux. http://leocad.gerf.org. Quite an extensive parts database, really nice output for creating building instructions for use later.
Next, the xtermkit I used in our project - it's written by Jacques Gelinas of linuxconf fame.
And lastly, check out the Linux Terminal Server Project. Another form of basically the same concept.
Check them out - I fully believe X terminals are a wonderful way to reduce costs - hardware, software, and management - when compared to more traditional desktop computer systems.
I'm actually doing a study of Mac OS X Server for my OS design course (assigned just this week). Does anyone have any pointers for gut level info on this OS? Or can I just use info I find on BSD4.4 - iow, is it true blue Unix underneath, as far as handling memory, processes, i/o, etc.?
Thnaks!
I've had the NEC SuperScript 860 for about two years now, and the 870 looks like a pretty straightforward replacement (in fact, I just recommended two of them for use here at work).
Quick first page out, and I get pretty close to 8ppm on straight text. It's surprising that more manufacturers aren't licensing the Adobe PrintGear technology that these use, as it seems a pretty slick setup.
CK18A-SDOT - Gosh, Rob, now they're numbering products based on your site :-)
Stop your clients now, boys and girls, because I've deduced that the SETI@home client is really used to decipher and decode all communications, voice, data, and visual that's happened in America in the past 24 hours. Right now, your box is crunching away on the latest drug dealer's cell phone conversation! Stop now, or be sucked into the machine!
OK, I'm laying back down now...
Why else would key escrow exist?
A flame of my sig line got moderated up? Ah well, the perils of a free forum
Yes, the quote is certainly from Grouch_o_ Marx. I'll pull out my MLA handbook shortly and make the proper attribution in an appropriate format...
{/SARCASM}
Note to Booksellers - I bought this book for one reason: the first chapter was available online at amazon.com. Once I'd read that, I ordered it immediately. Posting first chapters is the way to overcome the one deficiency of buying books online, the inability to thumb through it.
I'm using a single boot floppy for each machine, and they then mount root from an NFS server. Performance is great, you certainly would not know you were working on a 486. And, in addition to the cost savings and more than acceptable performance, administration is a breeze.
The kit I started with is developed by the author of linuxconf. You may find it here: xterm.
Nice to see ZD calling Mindcraft on their, ummm, "creative" testing procedures. And pointing out that ZD's own tests have shown Linux outperforming NT on smaller, more typical servers.
...sucks! :-)
I know, that was bad.