Is that if there were ANY Comcast subscribers that actually petitioned Comcast to do something about their slow broadband connection? If not then the whole kaboodle is a load of poo no matter how you look at bandwidth usage.
I only wish that were true. I just built a house in Caldwell and can't get cable or dsl either one. My phone lines are too new (fiber optic) for the infrastructre, and the cable company sucks ass (Cableone) and won't run the lines into my area. But there are now going to be over 300 new houses in my area and only about 20 of them have cable access at this point. I think that the reason behind it is that the companies don't want to lay out the money for infrastructure until they know there are enough people clamoring for it that it will make them money. Or maybe I just built too cheap of a house:)
I mean it's not like Linus wrote this thing yesterday, or that there hasn't been years upon years of development on any number of code trees. All of which you can view the source at any time. So why the hell are they crying now? It makes me sick. Sick I tell ya. Sick Sick Sick.
Okay the crux of the issue seems to be revenue, or loss thereof from the major record companies which have been attributed to file sharing. But here is the problem. They are assuming that every time I download the newest Britney Spears creation that they have just lost 20 dollars. And this is where we get those astronomical loss numbers. But in actuality there is no way in hell that I would give 20 dollars for that tripe, especially from any of the FOTM bands and one hit wonders that seem to pop up ceaselessly. Legal issues aside, all the record companies would have to do is lower the price point to a more reasonable amount and pass some f_____g savings on to the consumer and I bet we'd see a whole paradigm shift in attitude. If you don't believe me why not start checking out your local WalMart's business model and see what I'm talking about.
Wow what a great troll. We need to get this troll to write a fucking trolling book so the lame ass trolls can get a clue and the real trolls can get paid:)
Ahh so then how can police have sting operations whereby they have prostitutes dressed up as cops soliciting sex. I mean that would violate that rule wouldn't it. Don't get me wrong I agree with you but I was just wondering if there were any "loopholes" that were available that either we as users or the RIAA as the prosecutor could use to circumvent entrapment laws. IANAL so I really don't know much about the environment here.
Here here. I absolutely agree with you. There is only one small problem. The corporations behind this will NEVER cut into their profit margins for the sake of making music more accessible. There are too many shareholders involved not to mention executives who would be summarily dismissed if the profits were to fall along the lines of the scale of fairness. The music industry has had 40+ years of making immeasurable sums of money, and even though it is fair and it is the right thing to do it will never happen. Those companies have long ago forgotten what the fair and right thing to do is.
Sure it is, police narcotics agencies do it all the time. They solicit you to commit and act or actively participate in that act and then bust you when the act is committed, then stand back and say oh, btw I'm a cop. So I wouldn't think for a second that the RIAA wouldn't think that they were acting just like an undercover narcotics unit in these instances and be able to take whatever measures they deem necessary and then stand back and say oh well I only did it to prove that what they were doing was illegal.
Okay, I was looking for something along these lines so don't take it personally.
1. No matter what the oil does to the environment, it is a statement not a military tactic. Although it has a dual purpose. I would venture that it was done, (In both cases) to make a global statement about oil. Not to confuse or distract troops. Although it is funny that we spent 9 months cleaning that up and then 0 time rebuilding the fresh water or sewage treatment plants that we blew up.
2. There are almost 200 member nations of the UN so by my figuring the US doesn't even have 20% of the support of the UN. No wonder they boycotted the UN if I knew I only had a 20% chance of succeeding then I probably would tell them to piss off as well. That still doesn't make it right though. And by saying that 40 nations are in favor is just twisting the numbers, just like CNN did when they released the information. Just like they wanted you to think. I would say to look at things from a higher level before putting things to print.
3. I'll cover the legality of all countries involved since I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. The US failed miserably in their African campaign IE: Somalia, Rwanda, to name a couple. They are no less culpable than any other nation. If you want to talk about propping up dictatorships and installing puppet governments, look at Nicaragua, Bolivia, Columbia and most of South and Central America. The US has supported almost any tinpot dictatorship (IRAQ included) when they thought that it would lead to stability in the area. And I mean stable by not allowing the people to rise up and speak their minds. There is a ton more history to the Iraqi situation than what we are being fed through the tube and in the media. The US has a horrible record of supporting dictatorships when it suits their needs.
I'm finished now. the last thing I would like to say is that I too support the war if it actually meant that the Iraqi people would be as free as I am here in the US. But it won't....
You know its funny, I bet the Iraqi people are saying exactly the same thing. Most ordinary people don't like getting their houses blown up. If we could get reliable information from ordinary people out of Iraq we would probably see that they don't consider themselves the enemy. Pawns of an ignorant tyrannical ruler (not unlike ourselves) maybe but not the enemy.
We get it already, there was probably a little foreknoweldge but not much. How do these guys that post the same shit about time zones every other post get modded up so high. So what if the difference was only 5 minutes, they could have sent an email to somebody, anybody for that matter. But they didn't, therein lies the fault.
No but Ford would be obligated to issue a recall if it was found that a flaw in their vehicle was going to take out not only Ford rigs but every other car on the freeway at the same time. If Symantec knew ahead of time that a storm was coming whether it be 20 minutes or 4 hours, they should have done all they had in their power to prevent it. Why do you think their sensor outposts are there anyway. Early warning and detection. Nobody makes any money if the entire internet is devalued as a medium because people consider it unreliable and scary.
Simple, you cannot. There is no possible way to ever believe anything that the mainstream media tells you. Nada, Zilch, Zero. All of the major media corporations are owned by 3 men. All of whom are wealthy, old, and white. Not a good combo if you're trying to get the truth.
So you were the one that I was feeling sorry for fraggin all the time. Thanks for the heads up. I'll try and kill you faster next time.:)
Seriously though. I know that it is not impossible to play on a dial up connection, but it is a real pain to have to download anything of any substance. Manuals, patches for your pc, new browsers or OS addons are a real bitch to get to. It doesn't have to all be about ripping mp3's and stealing music.
Good job here as well. It's nice to see somebody expound a little of the actual groundwork that goes into undertaking something like fiber development and implementation. All too often we see postings that breed fear and ignorance rather than giving insightful dialogue on a relevant topic. Just wanted to say good job once again.
It might not be that the bandwidth would be used to download music or movies but rather be able to play video games on the internet. There are literally hundreds of titles available for play on the net and only people with broadband connections can really benefit from them. You don't have to run your own server, but it would be nice to have the bandwidth available to do so. Your life doesn't have to revolve around the internet if something that takes an hour to do can be reduced to a few seconds as well.
Well done, I would have to say that the truth would have to lie somewhere in between telco's trying to price fix and between the cost feasability of lighting up the excess capacity that was laid. Do I believe that phone companies have blocked a lot of the technological advances that would benefit my internet habit YES... But to not look at all of the factors involved with any situation is both shortsighted and lame. Good job again for breaking it down.
I rescind my earlier statements. I was hoping to goad you into saying something less than intelligent thereby proving my original assumption that you had made an insensitive statement without much thought. Through our discussion I will cede to you that you have valid points on all fronts. I was playing too much Devil's Advocate and not doing enough listening to your counterpoints. Hopefully we can debate again on other points in the future.
Its not the janitorial vs sysadmin genre that I'm talking about. Or at least not what I'm talking about now. I'm thinking that perhaps we are picking two job functions that are very hard to compare. Essentially what I'm getting at is to say that I really didn't feel that it was fair to label the "working" class as somehow inferior to the "sysadmin" class and therefore somehow deserving of less recognition/pay. Do I really think that only 50% of the workforce is capable of being a sysadmin, no. I think that the percentage is much higher than that. And the analytical/problem solving/technologically comfortable aspect of things can be applied to almost any trade.
Airplane pilots require a similar set of physical/mental ability. Yes, I think I could be trained to be an airplane pilot, but I don't think everybody could do it. I think this statement probably sums it up the most succinctly. What I'm getting from this is that you think that YOU are more intelligent than the average Janitor and therefore deserving of something of a higher class and status. I probably can't change that, even if I were to think of an example that would give us both some common ground. It's just too bad that yours is the attitude that prevails in today's society. The attitude that I know more than you therefore I'm worth more than you. Even though some of the most intelligent people I've ever met knew that treating a person with dignity and respect was a helluva lot more important than trying to measure his/her intelligence quotia.
Believe it or not, if nobody took the trash away from my desk, I would take the trash away from my desk. Janitors are easily and cheaply replaced. Sysadmins are costly and difficultly changed. This fact makes no judgement against those who are janitors. Christ, our janitor comes to happy hour with the rest of the office. Watch out, I wouldn't want you to get hurt when you fall off your high horse.
This statement alone suggests that I would not be the only one guilty of sitting atop a high horse. I bet you think you can rebuild your own car engine and fly your own airplane. Let's not stop there. How about delivering your own mail or building your own house. Perhaps its the statement that being a sysadmin is somehow linked to being intelligent. I believe it is a matter of being trained. That 1 percent that you believe has what it takes to be sysadmins because of their intelligence I would venture do so because they have been trained in that manner. If the other 90 percent of the population were so trained, then you would see a subsequent shift in the labor force. Sysadmins would be getting Janitor's wages and Janitors would be very hard to come by. Wouldn't you think?
Yes, that's exactly what should happen. Just because one job is less glamourous than another doesn't mean that the people shouldn't be paid a respectable livable wage. How long do you think a standard Unix sysadmin would last if his company's trash was never picked up? Statements like that sound arrogant and inconsiderate of others status in life. Some people have the guts and fortitude to do jobs that they don't necessarily like because they have to put food on the table. Don't ever slight them again.....
If not let them in on the space station, why not start funding some private sector research into propulsion and lift mechanics. If somebody could come up with a way to lower the cost of a launch from tens of millions down to tens of thousands. I'm thinking here of Highlift Systems then it potentially could be this century's California/Alaskan gold rush.
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Is that if there were ANY Comcast subscribers that actually petitioned Comcast to do something about their slow broadband connection? If not then the whole kaboodle is a load of poo no matter how you look at bandwidth usage.
I only wish that were true. I just built a house in Caldwell and can't get cable or dsl either one. My phone lines are too new (fiber optic) for the infrastructre, and the cable company sucks ass (Cableone) and won't run the lines into my area. But there are now going to be over 300 new houses in my area and only about 20 of them have cable access at this point. I think that the reason behind it is that the companies don't want to lay out the money for infrastructure until they know there are enough people clamoring for it that it will make them money. Or maybe I just built too cheap of a house :)
Enlarge your penis emails as it is.
No 20 million dollars a movie is idiotic. Just like 252 million dollars to hit a ball with a stick is idiotic. Just like George Bush is idiotic.
How much is enough? When does it stop?
You are idiotic
I mean it's not like Linus wrote this thing yesterday, or that there hasn't been years upon years of development on any number of code trees. All of which you can view the source at any time. So why the hell are they crying now? It makes me sick. Sick I tell ya. Sick Sick Sick.
Okay the crux of the issue seems to be revenue, or loss thereof from the major record companies which have been attributed to file sharing. But here is the problem. They are assuming that every time I download the newest Britney Spears creation that they have just lost 20 dollars. And this is where we get those astronomical loss numbers. But in actuality there is no way in hell that I would give 20 dollars for that tripe, especially from any of the FOTM bands and one hit wonders that seem to pop up ceaselessly. Legal issues aside, all the record companies would have to do is lower the price point to a more reasonable amount and pass some f_____g savings on to the consumer and I bet we'd see a whole paradigm shift in attitude. If you don't believe me why not start checking out your local WalMart's business model and see what I'm talking about.
Wow what a great troll. We need to get this troll to write a fucking trolling book so the lame ass trolls can get a clue and the real trolls can get paid :)
Ahh so then how can police have sting operations whereby they have prostitutes dressed up as cops soliciting sex. I mean that would violate that rule wouldn't it. Don't get me wrong I agree with you but I was just wondering if there were any "loopholes" that were available that either we as users or the RIAA as the prosecutor could use to circumvent entrapment laws. IANAL so I really don't know much about the environment here.
W00t grats to you for speaking the truth.
:)
Don't you hear the knocks at your door yet??
No worries I swear it's just a gas company rig parked in a van across the street from you for a week.
Here here. I absolutely agree with you. There is only one small problem. The corporations behind this will NEVER cut into their profit margins for the sake of making music more accessible. There are too many shareholders involved not to mention executives who would be summarily dismissed if the profits were to fall along the lines of the scale of fairness. The music industry has had 40+ years of making immeasurable sums of money, and even though it is fair and it is the right thing to do it will never happen. Those companies have long ago forgotten what the fair and right thing to do is.
Sure it is, police narcotics agencies do it all the time. They solicit you to commit and act or actively participate in that act and then bust you when the act is committed, then stand back and say oh, btw I'm a cop. So I wouldn't think for a second that the RIAA wouldn't think that they were acting just like an undercover narcotics unit in these instances and be able to take whatever measures they deem necessary and then stand back and say oh well I only did it to prove that what they were doing was illegal.
Okay, I was looking for something along these lines so don't take it personally.
1. No matter what the oil does to the environment, it is a statement not a military tactic. Although it has a dual purpose. I would venture that it was done, (In both cases) to make a global statement about oil. Not to confuse or distract troops. Although it is funny that we spent 9 months cleaning that up and then 0 time rebuilding the fresh water or sewage treatment plants that we blew up.
2. There are almost 200 member nations of the UN so by my figuring the US doesn't even have 20% of the support of the UN. No wonder they boycotted the UN if I knew I only had a 20% chance of succeeding then I probably would tell them to piss off as well. That still doesn't make it right though. And by saying that 40 nations are in favor is just twisting the numbers, just like CNN did when they released the information. Just like they wanted you to think. I would say to look at things from a higher level before putting things to print.
3. I'll cover the legality of all countries involved since I don't want to spend a lot of time on this. The US failed miserably in their African campaign IE: Somalia, Rwanda, to name a couple. They are no less culpable than any other nation. If you want to talk about propping up dictatorships and installing puppet governments, look at Nicaragua, Bolivia, Columbia and most of South and Central America. The US has supported almost any tinpot dictatorship (IRAQ included) when they thought that it would lead to stability in the area. And I mean stable by not allowing the people to rise up and speak their minds. There is a ton more history to the Iraqi situation than what we are being fed through the tube and in the media. The US has a horrible record of supporting dictatorships when it suits their needs.
I'm finished now. the last thing I would like to say is that I too support the war if it actually meant that the Iraqi people would be as free as I am here in the US. But it won't....
You know its funny, I bet the Iraqi people are saying exactly the same thing. Most ordinary people don't like getting their houses blown up. If we could get reliable information from ordinary people out of Iraq we would probably see that they don't consider themselves the enemy. Pawns of an ignorant tyrannical ruler (not unlike ourselves) maybe but not the enemy.
We get it already, there was probably a little foreknoweldge but not much. How do these guys that post the same shit about time zones every other post get modded up so high. So what if the difference was only 5 minutes, they could have sent an email to somebody, anybody for that matter. But they didn't, therein lies the fault.
No but Ford would be obligated to issue a recall if it was found that a flaw in their vehicle was going to take out not only Ford rigs but every other car on the freeway at the same time. If Symantec knew ahead of time that a storm was coming whether it be 20 minutes or 4 hours, they should have done all they had in their power to prevent it. Why do you think their sensor outposts are there anyway. Early warning and detection. Nobody makes any money if the entire internet is devalued as a medium because people consider it unreliable and scary.
Simple, you cannot. There is no possible way to ever believe anything that the mainstream media tells you. Nada, Zilch, Zero. All of the major media corporations are owned by 3 men. All of whom are wealthy, old, and white. Not a good combo if you're trying to get the truth.
So you were the one that I was feeling sorry for fraggin all the time. Thanks for the heads up. I'll try and kill you faster next time. :)
Seriously though. I know that it is not impossible to play on a dial up connection, but it is a real pain to have to download anything of any substance. Manuals, patches for your pc, new browsers or OS addons are a real bitch to get to. It doesn't have to all be about ripping mp3's and stealing music.
Sig? What Sig?
Good job here as well. It's nice to see somebody expound a little of the actual groundwork that goes into undertaking something like fiber development and implementation. All too often we see postings that breed fear and ignorance rather than giving insightful dialogue on a relevant topic. Just wanted to say good job once again.
Sig? What Sig?
It might not be that the bandwidth would be used to download music or movies but rather be able to play video games on the internet. There are literally hundreds of titles available for play on the net and only people with broadband connections can really benefit from them. You don't have to run your own server, but it would be nice to have the bandwidth available to do so. Your life doesn't have to revolve around the internet if something that takes an hour to do can be reduced to a few seconds as well.
Just a little thought food for the nibblin
Well done, I would have to say that the truth would have to lie somewhere in between telco's trying to price fix and between the cost feasability of lighting up the excess capacity that was laid. Do I believe that phone companies have blocked a lot of the technological advances that would benefit my internet habit YES... But to not look at all of the factors involved with any situation is both shortsighted and lame. Good job again for breaking it down.
Sig? What Sig?
I rescind my earlier statements. I was hoping to goad you into saying something less than intelligent thereby proving my original assumption that you had made an insensitive statement without much thought. Through our discussion I will cede to you that you have valid points on all fronts. I was playing too much Devil's Advocate and not doing enough listening to your counterpoints. Hopefully we can debate again on other points in the future.
:)
BTW I don't remember what my point was either
Its not the janitorial vs sysadmin genre that I'm talking about. Or at least not what I'm talking about now. I'm thinking that perhaps we are picking two job functions that are very hard to compare. Essentially what I'm getting at is to say that I really didn't feel that it was fair to label the "working" class as somehow inferior to the "sysadmin" class and therefore somehow deserving of less recognition/pay. Do I really think that only 50% of the workforce is capable of being a sysadmin, no. I think that the percentage is much higher than that. And the analytical/problem solving/technologically comfortable aspect of things can be applied to almost any trade.
Airplane pilots require a similar set of physical/mental ability. Yes, I think I could be trained to be an airplane pilot, but I don't think everybody could do it.
I think this statement probably sums it up the most succinctly. What I'm getting from this is that you think that YOU are more intelligent than the average Janitor and therefore deserving of something of a higher class and status. I probably can't change that, even if I were to think of an example that would give us both some common ground. It's just too bad that yours is the attitude that prevails in today's society. The attitude that I know more than you therefore I'm worth more than you. Even though some of the most intelligent people I've ever met knew that treating a person with dignity and respect was a helluva lot more important than trying to measure his/her intelligence quotia.
Believe it or not, if nobody took the trash away from my desk, I would take the trash away from my desk. Janitors are easily and cheaply replaced. Sysadmins are costly and difficultly changed. This fact makes no judgement against those who are janitors. Christ, our janitor comes to happy hour with the rest of the office. Watch out, I wouldn't want you to get hurt when you fall off your high horse.
This statement alone suggests that I would not be the only one guilty of sitting atop a high horse. I bet you think you can rebuild your own car engine and fly your own airplane. Let's not stop there. How about delivering your own mail or building your own house. Perhaps its the statement that being a sysadmin is somehow linked to being intelligent. I believe it is a matter of being trained. That 1 percent that you believe has what it takes to be sysadmins because of their intelligence I would venture do so because they have been trained in that manner. If the other 90 percent of the population were so trained, then you would see a subsequent shift in the labor force. Sysadmins would be getting Janitor's wages and Janitors would be very hard to come by. Wouldn't you think?
Yes, that's exactly what should happen. Just because one job is less glamourous than another doesn't mean that the people shouldn't be paid a respectable livable wage. How long do you think a standard Unix sysadmin would last if his company's trash was never picked up? Statements like that sound arrogant and inconsiderate of others status in life. Some people have the guts and fortitude to do jobs that they don't necessarily like because they have to put food on the table. Don't ever slight them again.....
If not let them in on the space station, why not start funding some private sector research into propulsion and lift mechanics. If somebody could come up with a way to lower the cost of a launch from tens of millions down to tens of thousands. I'm thinking here of Highlift Systems then it potentially could be this century's California/Alaskan gold rush.