No, and interestingly enough, this is a tangetial example of names being used incorrectly.
Godwin's Law is not _any_ mention of Hitler or the Nazis. It requires an unfavorable comparison to Nazi Germany or Hitler. Since nothing we've done is as bad as massacring 12+ million civilians, the comparison is ridiculous. Further, the rule is "any flame war shall eventually result in somone comparing someone else or their actions to Nazi Germany. That person loses."
Examples are: "The Nazis had really strict rules about this too!", "You imagine yourself a little Hitler with parades and... and... people saluting you", and, "You know who else liked to invade Poland?"
In other words, you can talk about The Luftwaffe, Swastikas, Panzer design, WW2 re-enactments, etc. without invoking Godwin's Law.
Well, I'm going to talk to you about Canada for a second.
We have several viable parties up here, but for the most part, the two governing parties were either the Liberals (red) or the Conservatives (blue). Other parties, like the Bloq Quebecois (teal) and the NDP(orange), have held a various number of seats over the years but nothing really secure, nothing that would vastly influence how the country is headed. Most of us who wanted to vote for the orange party voted for the red party because we wanted to make sure, most of all, that the blue party didn't get elected.
In the last election, the Liberal party was destroyed, along with the BQ. The orange is now the Official Opposition, and there's a very good chance they will be running the country after the next election. We've got some problems with the blue party running the place, but there's an ongoing investigation into election fraud.
So, vote for what you want. You might just get it.
Ah, I see you're a Linux Kernel Developer. "I am technically correct, so I don't have to listen about usability."
Here's an example: swastika. Immediately, you're thinking of 40s era Europe, right?
The Germans used the swastika for 6 years. It's been around for THOUSANDS of years as a Sanskrit symbol, but you put up one little flag and point at it with your arm and suddenly YOU'RE the bad guy.
Sycodon is right, a new term has to be coined, and not hat colours.
Using Linux is kind of like being one of the kids whose parents were alcoholics but did their best, in between drunken rants about the futility of life.
Well, MY distro has the parents on methadone. It's clearly superior.
That's why I hire movers. Now I never have to help anyone move ever again.
"I'm moving this weekend..."
"Oh, last time I moved I hired [this company] and they were done in three hours. Great deal, they brought 3 guys instead of 2 which I thought was a rip because it was a higher hourly rate, but the third guy was lifting all the boxes while the other two moved furniture. I went to a concert and went home to my new house."
Sorry, I meant lead ship. HMCS Victoria is the lead Victoria-class submarine, as HMCS Halifax is the lead Halifax-class CPF.
As for the subs, well, have you ever owned a British car? (Shit man, I've owned a GERMAN car and it was a fucking junkheap and the parts were impossible to find.)
Most of the money spent has been on labour, which has gone to taxes and thus back to the govt. The rest has been spent on trucks, TVs, mortgages, and other stuff that the workers have bought over the years. I'd guess that of the overall costs of the sub project, 90% has gone back to the Canadian government by way of taxes. The rest has gone to raw material producers and the purchase itself.
Thanks for the thanks, but I'm a civilian contractor. I mean, I take it seriously and know that people depend on what I'm doing, not now, but maybe someone's going to press a button 10, 20 years from now, and it has to work.
Who has nukes? Why would they use them against the UK?
America: Not as long as the UK keeps blocking Pirate Bay. UK: Ridiculous even by their standards France: Okay, maybe. They're still sore about Agincourt. China: Too risky, US retaliation would vaporize all mammalian life on the planet. Russia: See China. India: All trained on Pakistan Pakistan: All trained on India North Korea: They can't make them fly up that high. Rogue operator: "I say, instead of blowing up this one atomic weapon in a major city at rush hour, we'll detonate it out in the woods to generate an EMP field to disrupt their power grid." "Oy mate, that's a brilliant plan, that's what that is."
They could check if you've downloaded deCSS libraries or visited PB or searched Google for a torrent. They can see if you've downloaded handbrake or any mp3s / AVIs / MKVs anything at all.
Surface to Air missiles at the Olympics (which I find bafflingly crazy, and I work with the military. Even my friend who works on the flagship Canadian submarine was speechless when I told him, and that's saying something.) and now EMP shielding?
Guys, nobody has these weapons and if they did they wouldn't waste them on you.
Not there yet. They're all pretty much a waste of ammo and/or accelerant. We've been using the soap box, and that's been simply ignored. We used the ballot box, and it seems that they took that away from us. The oversight group, Elections Canada, had its budget cut by 7.5 million this year, when they're in the middle of investigating the biggest fraud case in Canadian history. So The Jury box has been stripped of its funding.
I am concerned that someone's going to move to Box Four, and that's a terrible thing. We've never done that sort of thing up here.
Again... please enlighten me as to how something illegal that nobody would or even *COULD* ever even know had occurred other than the person who did it, be enforced?
How about their other bill (C-30) that allows for unlimited warrantless recording and logging of everything you ever do online?
What if the media companies seed their own movies, log the IP addresses and report those to the police?
What if they just take their chances if you're being a problem with them? 75% of the US population (and I would assume a slightly higher rate in Canada) says that media piracy is just fine. I take that to mean "they've done it". One movie that's out of region, one installation of Linux on a Win8 box, you play your Wii games off a hard drive so your kids don't fuck up the fucking disks AGAIN, and you're in jail for 5 years.
Once you get out, you're a convicted criminal (in the US, a felon) so what's your word worth anyway?
Additionally, there's now no risk to the media companies. Now that it's moving from civil to criminal, they can use the resources of the state (Canada) to threaten you. Canada's loser-pay system doesn't affect criminal cases.
They're lying, again. They've lied about every. single. point. they made during the election, and there's strong evidence that even the election results themselves are a lie.
They want to have it on the books so that if Beardo is at a protest or starts to make trouble, they can see what Beardo's been doing online and put him in jail or bankrupt him or hell, just embarrass him. Ripping a DVD is a $20k fine and 5 years in prison. Unlocking your nook? Same thing. Installing Ubuntu? Yep, prison. (Okay, you deserve that last one.) Any digital lock on any media cannot be bypassed or that's the penalty. That's not fear-mongering, that's what is in the law. If you buy a DVD and rip it to play on your unlocked iPhone, you're looking at 10+ years in jail. If you burned down Parliament with everyone inside, you'd get out on parole sooner than that.
"We're not going to do this!" means "We don't want you to complain until this is the law."
So a one time event that you can walk away from your body will eventually recover from, but protected exposure to low dosages is a constant battle for your immune system.
And again they lied to us, no superpowers.
That's not true:
Several friends were too close to a uranium spill, and they all got super powers!
Dr. Sterile can never again father children!
Mr. Pustule sickens all he comes near with his hairless tumour-covered body.
Coughing Girl gets sickened by the slightest cold.
Changed inside and out by the radiation, The Corpse is DEAD!
(These aren't mine, I read them on some comedy site years ago.)
Okay, now let's say that someone, let's say they have a beard, just does not like Apple and refused to give them any money for any reason. What non-iTunes option is there? Amazon will not let me purchase music as I'm not in the US.
Both the Bible and Koran are pretty clear about murdering sinners (and non-belief is a sin). The Bible tried to retcon or revise a lot of it, but the Koran is supposed to be the literal word of God and is a lot more coherent and consistent.
People don't just read a book and decide to start murdering though, they need to be radicalised. The fact that lots of their Muslim brothers and sisters were killed by various western nations, primarily the US, is the driver. Religion just helps justify the war and glorifies it as holy.
They actually say "don't judge others, leave that to me."
I've been friends with a Muslim for a good 20 years, and there are only two things he's ever said to me about converting: 1. "I hope you find out the truth before you die." 2. After he found out I switched to a vegetarian diet, "No pork? Hey, then you've done the hard part, you already don't drink..."
He's also told me that the Koran is very clear about not killing. Acts of violence are generally preceded with a "Allah, I quit." No matter what some illiterate dude sitting in a tent says the footnotes say, you're not supposed to be killing each other.
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The reward for election fraud is like killing someone and getting all their stuff.
The penalty is that you have to wear a hat, but you get to keep their stuff.
If Harper was an American, he'd be sitting down to drink with Jack Layton.
In this topsy-turvy modern world in which we live in, who's to say what's right and wrong?
Morality is relative, and who are we to judge?
Voices in my head...
ALL DOGS WANT STEAK.
Kill the cats... well, I work on that every day.
No, and interestingly enough, this is a tangetial example of names being used incorrectly.
Godwin's Law is not _any_ mention of Hitler or the Nazis. It requires an unfavorable comparison to Nazi Germany or Hitler. Since nothing we've done is as bad as massacring 12+ million civilians, the comparison is ridiculous. Further, the rule is "any flame war shall eventually result in somone comparing someone else or their actions to Nazi Germany. That person loses."
Examples are: "The Nazis had really strict rules about this too!", "You imagine yourself a little Hitler with parades and... and... people saluting you", and, "You know who else liked to invade Poland?"
In other words, you can talk about The Luftwaffe, Swastikas, Panzer design, WW2 re-enactments, etc. without invoking Godwin's Law.
Well, I'm going to talk to you about Canada for a second.
We have several viable parties up here, but for the most part, the two governing parties were either the Liberals (red) or the Conservatives (blue). Other parties, like the Bloq Quebecois (teal) and the NDP(orange), have held a various number of seats over the years but nothing really secure, nothing that would vastly influence how the country is headed. Most of us who wanted to vote for the orange party voted for the red party because we wanted to make sure, most of all, that the blue party didn't get elected.
In the last election, the Liberal party was destroyed, along with the BQ. The orange is now the Official Opposition, and there's a very good chance they will be running the country after the next election. We've got some problems with the blue party running the place, but there's an ongoing investigation into election fraud.
So, vote for what you want. You might just get it.
No, the major US creditor is internal US debt. China owns 7% of the total US debt, which is 30% of the foreign debt.
Ah, I see you're a Linux Kernel Developer. "I am technically correct, so I don't have to listen about usability."
Here's an example: swastika. Immediately, you're thinking of 40s era Europe, right?
The Germans used the swastika for 6 years. It's been around for THOUSANDS of years as a Sanskrit symbol, but you put up one little flag and point at it with your arm and suddenly YOU'RE the bad guy.
Sycodon is right, a new term has to be coined, and not hat colours.
Using Linux is kind of like being one of the kids whose parents were alcoholics but did their best, in between drunken rants about the futility of life.
Well, MY distro has the parents on methadone. It's clearly superior.
Yeah, that's probably where I read it first.
That's why I hire movers. Now I never have to help anyone move ever again.
"I'm moving this weekend..."
"Oh, last time I moved I hired [this company] and they were done in three hours. Great deal, they brought 3 guys instead of 2 which I thought was a rip because it was a higher hourly rate, but the third guy was lifting all the boxes while the other two moved furniture. I went to a concert and went home to my new house."
The enemy of my enemy is my enemy's enemy.
Sorry, I meant lead ship. HMCS Victoria is the lead Victoria-class submarine, as HMCS Halifax is the lead Halifax-class CPF.
As for the subs, well, have you ever owned a British car? (Shit man, I've owned a GERMAN car and it was a fucking junkheap and the parts were impossible to find.)
Most of the money spent has been on labour, which has gone to taxes and thus back to the govt. The rest has been spent on trucks, TVs, mortgages, and other stuff that the workers have bought over the years. I'd guess that of the overall costs of the sub project, 90% has gone back to the Canadian government by way of taxes. The rest has gone to raw material producers and the purchase itself.
Thanks for the thanks, but I'm a civilian contractor. I mean, I take it seriously and know that people depend on what I'm doing, not now, but maybe someone's going to press a button 10, 20 years from now, and it has to work.
Dude, I had like 10 seconds to post something before someone else did.
I've had two FPs since 2001. I had to post fast.
Who has nukes? Why would they use them against the UK?
America: Not as long as the UK keeps blocking Pirate Bay.
UK: Ridiculous even by their standards
France: Okay, maybe. They're still sore about Agincourt.
China: Too risky, US retaliation would vaporize all mammalian life on the planet.
Russia: See China.
India: All trained on Pakistan
Pakistan: All trained on India
North Korea: They can't make them fly up that high.
Rogue operator: "I say, instead of blowing up this one atomic weapon in a major city at rush hour, we'll detonate it out in the woods to generate an EMP field to disrupt their power grid." "Oy mate, that's a brilliant plan, that's what that is."
They could check if you've downloaded deCSS libraries or visited PB or searched Google for a torrent. They can see if you've downloaded handbrake or any mp3s / AVIs / MKVs anything at all.
Surface to Air missiles at the Olympics (which I find bafflingly crazy, and I work with the military. Even my friend who works on the flagship Canadian submarine was speechless when I told him, and that's saying something.) and now EMP shielding?
Guys, nobody has these weapons and if they did they wouldn't waste them on you.
Not there yet. They're all pretty much a waste of ammo and/or accelerant. We've been using the soap box, and that's been simply ignored. We used the ballot box, and it seems that they took that away from us. The oversight group, Elections Canada, had its budget cut by 7.5 million this year, when they're in the middle of investigating the biggest fraud case in Canadian history. So The Jury box has been stripped of its funding.
I am concerned that someone's going to move to Box Four, and that's a terrible thing. We've never done that sort of thing up here.
Again... please enlighten me as to how something illegal that nobody would or even *COULD* ever even know had occurred other than the person who did it, be enforced?
How about their other bill (C-30) that allows for unlimited warrantless recording and logging of everything you ever do online?
What if the media companies seed their own movies, log the IP addresses and report those to the police?
What if they just take their chances if you're being a problem with them? 75% of the US population (and I would assume a slightly higher rate in Canada) says that media piracy is just fine. I take that to mean "they've done it". One movie that's out of region, one installation of Linux on a Win8 box, you play your Wii games off a hard drive so your kids don't fuck up the fucking disks AGAIN, and you're in jail for 5 years.
Once you get out, you're a convicted criminal (in the US, a felon) so what's your word worth anyway?
Additionally, there's now no risk to the media companies. Now that it's moving from civil to criminal, they can use the resources of the state (Canada) to threaten you. Canada's loser-pay system doesn't affect criminal cases.
They're lying, again. They've lied about every. single. point. they made during the election, and there's strong evidence that even the election results themselves are a lie.
They want to have it on the books so that if Beardo is at a protest or starts to make trouble, they can see what Beardo's been doing online and put him in jail or bankrupt him or hell, just embarrass him. Ripping a DVD is a $20k fine and 5 years in prison. Unlocking your nook? Same thing. Installing Ubuntu? Yep, prison. (Okay, you deserve that last one.) Any digital lock on any media cannot be bypassed or that's the penalty. That's not fear-mongering, that's what is in the law. If you buy a DVD and rip it to play on your unlocked iPhone, you're looking at 10+ years in jail. If you burned down Parliament with everyone inside, you'd get out on parole sooner than that.
"We're not going to do this!" means "We don't want you to complain until this is the law."
Funny enough, that's what I use in my cubicle.
So a one time event that you can walk away from your body will eventually recover from, but protected exposure to low dosages is a constant battle for your immune system.
And again they lied to us, no superpowers.
That's not true:
Several friends were too close to a uranium spill, and they all got super powers!
Dr. Sterile can never again father children!
Mr. Pustule sickens all he comes near with his hairless tumour-covered body.
Coughing Girl gets sickened by the slightest cold.
Changed inside and out by the radiation, The Corpse is DEAD!
(These aren't mine, I read them on some comedy site years ago.)
So I'm forced to shop at a store due to new laws?
Okay, now let's say that someone, let's say they have a beard, just does not like Apple and refused to give them any money for any reason. What non-iTunes option is there? Amazon will not let me purchase music as I'm not in the US.
Both the Bible and Koran are pretty clear about murdering sinners (and non-belief is a sin). The Bible tried to retcon or revise a lot of it, but the Koran is supposed to be the literal word of God and is a lot more coherent and consistent.
People don't just read a book and decide to start murdering though, they need to be radicalised. The fact that lots of their Muslim brothers and sisters were killed by various western nations, primarily the US, is the driver. Religion just helps justify the war and glorifies it as holy.
They actually say "don't judge others, leave that to me."
I've been friends with a Muslim for a good 20 years, and there are only two things he's ever said to me about converting: 1. "I hope you find out the truth before you die." 2. After he found out I switched to a vegetarian diet, "No pork? Hey, then you've done the hard part, you already don't drink..."
He's also told me that the Koran is very clear about not killing. Acts of violence are generally preceded with a "Allah, I quit." No matter what some illiterate dude sitting in a tent says the footnotes say, you're not supposed to be killing each other.