Arwen / Eowin sorry, can't remeber the names of people who show up in two paragraphs in the book. Lets just say Elrond's daughter. If she gives her heart ot Aragorn and marries him she ties her fate to his and will die a natural death in middle earth.
Glorfindle was the high elf who saves Frodo before the fords in the Fellowship of the ring. This is another error introduced by Jackson in FOTR. Frodo had the strenght to stand up and tell the 9 to go back. Then Glorfindle and Aragorn bring fire behind them and drive the 9 into the ford. Making (Elrond's daughter stand up and tell them off takes away from Frodo's strength as a character.)
They only high elf in the movie is Glorfindle (they may call him something else but its him.) He lead he elves to Helms Deep in the movie and dies. Its fucking dumb. In the book some of the Duadain do show up at the fords of Isen.
This is another reason why the movie sucked. Elrond's talk with his dauther about how she'll live on after Aragorns death is bullshit. His mother died because she gave her slef to mortality and love. If Liv Tyler gave herslef to Aragorn then she would die beside him in middle earth and be lost to the elves until Illuivatar brings and end to all the worlds.
Denthanor is sensative because he is using the Palantir.
Bormair and Faramir are his sons.
The blood of Numenor is the decendants of Elrond the halfelf. His mother fell in love with a human and gave up her imortality. So basically Elrond is Aragorn's great^n grandfather. Denethor has a weakened version of the blood line.
The Valar promised not to interfear once Melkor was taken for the last time.
When they tried this in Portalnd I literally stood up and asked the auidence if they thought that they should pay $7 to watch adds. Its bullshit. You paid for the media so it NEEDS to be comerical free.
Cinematography: A+ Continuity / Editing: F Screenplay / Dialogue: A Acting / Delivery: A Faithfullness to the Book: D- Overall: C-
You need to read the book. Yes each scene is true to the book. The acters clearly loved this movie. They understood. The editor did not. They did not understand why the Ents went to war. They decided Fangorn was suprised to find a huge tract of woods gone, that like assuming you look down and see that you've been John Bobbited a week ago and never noticed. Giving Merry and Pippen the ability to "Hoodwink" Treebeard is like assuming that they could "Hoodwink" Saurman. Get it straight. Understand motivation. This also leads to the Helms Deep fiasco. um. Battle scene was great but there was NO NEED to change the story. Eomire didn't have an army of thousands he had one platoon. The hurons saved the day not men. Why did the Elves come? The Duadain (men of the northern Gondor) did come from Rivendale but not Elves. But that less important than the fact that in the movie they were lead by GLorfindle who is a almost a god in the books. He is a highelf. He is in both worlds like the wraiths but in the light rather than the dark.
The thing with Faramir was total and complete SHIT. Faramir was the nicest human in any of the books. He was won over by Frodo and let him go. The ring tested him and he won. He was a better man the Boramir.
This comes to the real problem. Jackson changed love in the story to romantic love instead of fraternal love. Fraternal love is what Merry and Pippen used to win over the Ents not trickery. Fraternal love is what frodo used to win over Faramir not shit plot holes. All that garbage in the middle hour of the film is caused by Jackson stupidity of trying to bring romantic love to a story that has none. Jackson sucumed to weakness that is why this movie sucked.
The worst error is that the book end with Frodo dead and Sam alone in Mordor. Its like Randall says in Clerks. "It ends on such a down note."
THE WORST MOVIE EVER. 3 & 1/2 hours of SHIT is why it ain't gunna make money!
No Stars. Let me say that movie sucked more dick the Ishtar. The editing was worse than Episode I.
a. IF your going to ass-fuck a book choose a worse one to do it to than the Two Towers.
b. Faramir was NOT an asshole in the book.
c. There are 6 parts in the book, 3 for each set of characters. 1 run across the plains, 2 meet and great the Rohan & fight at Helms Deep, 3 confront Saruman. (Wow this movie sucked, just had to put it in) Not Run circle jerk and wax lyrical get a visit from the Elves and dream of your bitch. for the other half... 1 Marshes, 2 Friends with Faramir (one of the most humane of the humans in the book) 3 Go to the Morgul vail and fight Shelob granddaughter of Ungalant. Not Marshed, go to Gondor almost fall tothe Wraiths and then end of MOVIE! Fuck is Jackson too weak to end the movie where to book ends? Um YES. What an ASSHOLE!!!!!
d. Glorfindle didn't go to Helms Deep and sure as fuck didn't die there. He's a high elf, he went to Valinor, he at least 80% as bad ass a Gandalf but he sure wasn't in this movie.
e. Eowin WOULD BECOME MORTAL IF SHE BINDS HER SOUL TO ARAGORN. Dude, did Peter Jackson EVEN READ THIS FUCKING BOOK! How the FUCK did he think Elrond got to be a halfelf? His mother DIED a human. What a fucking JACKASS.
f. Um... what happened to the Hurons?
g. Why id there an HOUR of usless shit in this move and why does it lack about a quarter of the actual text?
h. WHY? WHY? WHY?
i. Gandalf was naked when he fought the Balrog.
j. This is my only complaint from the 1st movie but it fits here too... Glamdring the Foe HAmmer glow when orc are near too. Stings a fucking pig sticker next to Gandalf's sword.
In the end yes, like Titanic, it was a ship full of hubris that smashed into the iceberg of logic and sank.
THIS MOVIE NEEDS A PHANTOM EDIT!
-F34nor
Feanor fairest of those who saw the light of the two trees.
I had a e-mail exchange with Brin about this an I think you frankly don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
The Postman sucked but the book was good so blame Brian Helgel and Eric Roth, they wrote the screenplay or Kevin Costner the director. Brin's analysis of the those movies was pretty good. Better then your glib "fetid, steaming, pile of crap"
Now with StarWars the blame is on Lucas and he richly deserves it because at least he should know better. The real problem is Lucas is getting you to bank role the paradigm shift to all digital movie making. Just as offensve as the film/video shift highlighted by Boogie Nights. Lucas couldn't give less of a shit about the story etc of StarWars it just has to be good enough to keep you from walking out of the theater.
As I said to Brin, Attack of the Clones was object oriented programing. He draged and droped story boards from his other movies to make a very medicore movie that didn't piss too many people off and had one scene that you watched the movie for. Lame as it was it was 1000x better then Episode I.
If you think Lucas should have any credit for even Episode 4/A New Hope you should get off your illterate ass and watch Hidden Fotress by Akira Kurosawa and relize that Lucas is a f*cking theif who doesn't have the style to wash Kurosawa's feet.
You need to understand the issues of Illuvitar vs. Melkor, Manwe vs. Melkor, Feanor vs. Melkor, then Sauron vs. Numenorians, Sauron vs. Elves, Sauron vs. Wizards.
Sauron is a 2nd level being HE IS NOT A GOD. He is a demi god. Same level in the Pantheon as the Balrogs and Dragons. When Feanor failed to defeat Melkor and return the stones *insert whole book here* the Valanor finally got pissed and bound Melkor in chains and took him off. Sauron got left behind to do his masters work. All Sauron wants to do is sow discord in the harmony of the music of Illuvitar. But as it says in the beginging no matter what you do you can only make his majesty greater. ie. no matter how hard the darkness rages against the light, the light will onyl become brighter. Sauron knows he can never be god, he's 2nd fiddle to 2nd fiddle at best.
As a reader of the LOTR you don't have access to the facts. Don't base your understanding of gods by watch the last chapter of the last book of the last story. Read the genisis.
The scene with the guys in Tuxes and her on the stairs is knocking them away and then drawing them near again is from Material World. This scene is from Metropolis. It comes in the late middle when the robot goes to the night club district to get naked and drinks with the rich kids (first time I've seen a robot with a nipple.) I can't remeber the 'X-Prs Yo'sef' video so she might have stolen that one too.
Actually your living it Fritz Lang's Metropolis if you think you are livining in a material world. Does she have to pay royalties for stealing visual styles?
Its funny that you say its not worth watching. When I watched the handtaped video of Phantom Menace I like it ALOT better than the studio release. I found the noise took the edge of the the OVERLY brilant and glossly look of the movie. The circle was complete when I saw the Phantom Edit. God why oh why are movies open source.
Synopsis:
Elaine's dancing ("a full-body dry heave set to music") makes her an object of ridicule among her staff. When Peterman employee Anna (Rebecca McFarland) gets a crush on George, believing him to be a "bad boy," he eagerly makes like a latter-day Fonzie. Kramer's pistol-packin' pal Brody (Neil Giuntoli) forces Jerry to become a video-bootlegging auteur.
The goldern path is the idea that if you limit humanity to a closed system at least one path will lead to extinction. For instance if you take a long view of histroy we can safely say the humanity will go extinct... when the sun burns up Earth. Not much of a worry really but we can say it with absolut certanty. From this absolute we can argue the specifics.
We have to get off this fucking rock. We should honestly have no greater priority, except maybe not doing ireperable harm before we go.
Somehow the lifeboat seems um... a little small and isolated. I want the Niven's Ringworld / Bank's Culture Orbitals. No Halo Please I don't want the people who thought up Durandal making my habitat. I want billions of people per habitat. The only way to do that is spheres, nano or biological manufacturing, and a large source or raw materials. That and some balls. Oh yeah and a SHIT load of money.
Has anyone noticed that Lawrence Livermoe has been able to fit a full HDTV singal into the UNUSED portion of NTSC. That means we can take back those free VHF channels we gave to the local stations for the HDTV phase in.
Oh wait we have REPUBLICS in the House, Senate, Executive AND the Judical. We're f*cked. We'll be lucky if we don't have all the media outlets in the entire world owned and opperated by 3 corporations in 2 years.
Try Ocean nasal spray before you get the infection. It's just a saline spray that keep your mucus membranes moist. Also use it on planes, keeps you from getting cracks in your skin inside your sinus that allow infection. Stuff works better than anything for flying and not getting sick. My freind who gets 150,000 miles a year told me about it.
Saying nanotech can cause cancer is like saying energy can cause cancer. True but simplistic. I am sure, (I will at least go out on a long limb and say) that inhaling bacteria size robots causes lung cancer. Suprised? Yummy carbon and steel good for lungs...
I am also sure (although less so) that the advent of true self assembley and or nanotech Von Neuman machines will allow for a gemoetric increase in our industrial output. Does this mean that we we be able to use this technology to terraform the Earth? Um... maybe, it all deepends on human achivement and ambission. Like the current problems with or computer and networks it will depend on the software.
My biggest hope of VonNeuman machines is for mining landfills.
You all need to look into what they are calling the "long term carbon cycle." It shows a long term (geological) temp. swing that is dependant on carbon being subsumed into the mantel and release from volcanoes, plants and people are a drop in the bucket. The gulf stream has been stopping the long term cycle in the last 8000 years. When the ice age starts to end there is increased ice flow from the artic to the north Atlantic this causes a fresh water influx into the top of the gulf stream that stops it and in turn begins to cool the planet again. Hence the ability for man to get out of the dark ages was a direct results of the unusually stable temperatures we have been getting. The proof is in the Bahamas and the ice core samples. Face it people we ARE IN AN ICE AGE. Hotter is going to suck but its the law of averages we are fighting. Also face the fact the carbon cycle is geologic rather than biological.
We do not spend 50% of our budget on the military. We spend ~60% on Social Secuirty. Of what is left we might spend ~30% or 1/6 of the total on the military.
Ok, ok, ok. Those are all funny and all but still have NOTHING on Wiskey Dick. I mean give me a break, pee-pee, wang, dong cock, etc are just penis words. Wiskey Dick means something. It means I combined at least 3 excesses and lost.
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Fordo was 50 when he left the shire.
*see above rants
Jackson needs to recall this movie and re-edit it so it doesn't suck.
That or THE PHANTOM EDITOR!
Arwen / Eowin sorry, can't remeber the names of people who show up in two paragraphs in the book. Lets just say Elrond's daughter. If she gives her heart ot Aragorn and marries him she ties her fate to his and will die a natural death in middle earth.
Glorfindle was the high elf who saves Frodo before the fords in the Fellowship of the ring. This is another error introduced by Jackson in FOTR. Frodo had the strenght to stand up and tell the 9 to go back. Then Glorfindle and Aragorn bring fire behind them and drive the 9 into the ford. Making (Elrond's daughter stand up and tell them off takes away from Frodo's strength as a character.)
They only high elf in the movie is Glorfindle (they may call him something else but its him.) He lead he elves to Helms Deep in the movie and dies. Its fucking dumb. In the book some of the Duadain do show up at the fords of Isen.
I hate to replay to myself but...
This is another reason why the movie sucked. Elrond's talk with his dauther about how she'll live on after Aragorns death is bullshit. His mother died because she gave her slef to mortality and love. If Liv Tyler gave herslef to Aragorn then she would die beside him in middle earth and be lost to the elves until Illuivatar brings and end to all the worlds.
Denthanor is sensative because he is using the Palantir.
Bormair and Faramir are his sons.
The blood of Numenor is the decendants of Elrond the halfelf. His mother fell in love with a human and gave up her imortality. So basically Elrond is Aragorn's great^n grandfather. Denethor has a weakened version of the blood line.
The Valar promised not to interfear once Melkor was taken for the last time.
p.s. The move sucked.
When they tried this in Portalnd I literally stood up and asked the auidence if they thought that they should pay $7 to watch adds. Its bullshit. You paid for the media so it NEEDS to be comerical free.
Cinematography: A+
Continuity / Editing: F
Screenplay / Dialogue: A
Acting / Delivery: A
Faithfullness to the Book: D-
Overall: C-
You need to read the book. Yes each scene is true to the book. The acters clearly loved this movie. They understood. The editor did not. They did not understand why the Ents went to war. They decided Fangorn was suprised to find a huge tract of woods gone, that like assuming you look down and see that you've been John Bobbited a week ago and never noticed. Giving Merry and Pippen the ability to "Hoodwink" Treebeard is like assuming that they could "Hoodwink" Saurman. Get it straight. Understand motivation. This also leads to the Helms Deep fiasco. um. Battle scene was great but there was NO NEED to change the story. Eomire didn't have an army of thousands he had one platoon. The hurons saved the day not men. Why did the Elves come? The Duadain (men of the northern Gondor) did come from Rivendale but not Elves. But that less important than the fact that in the movie they were lead by GLorfindle who is a almost a god in the books. He is a highelf. He is in both worlds like the wraiths but in the light rather than the dark.
The thing with Faramir was total and complete SHIT. Faramir was the nicest human in any of the books. He was won over by Frodo and let him go. The ring tested him and he won. He was a better man the Boramir.
This comes to the real problem. Jackson changed love in the story to romantic love instead of fraternal love. Fraternal love is what Merry and Pippen used to win over the Ents not trickery. Fraternal love is what frodo used to win over Faramir not shit plot holes. All that garbage in the middle hour of the film is caused by Jackson stupidity of trying to bring romantic love to a story that has none. Jackson sucumed to weakness that is why this movie sucked.
The worst error is that the book end with Frodo dead and Sam alone in Mordor. Its like Randall says in Clerks. "It ends on such a down note."
-F34nor
THE WORST MOVIE EVER. 3 & 1/2 hours of SHIT is why it ain't gunna make money!
No Stars. Let me say that movie sucked more dick the Ishtar. The editing was worse than Episode I.
a. IF your going to ass-fuck a book choose a worse one to do it to than the Two Towers.
b. Faramir was NOT an asshole in the book.
c. There are 6 parts in the book, 3 for each set of characters. 1 run across the plains, 2 meet and great the Rohan & fight at Helms Deep, 3 confront Saruman. (Wow this movie sucked, just had to put it in) Not Run circle jerk and wax lyrical get a visit from the Elves and dream of your bitch. for the other half... 1 Marshes, 2 Friends with Faramir (one of the most humane of the humans in the book) 3 Go to the Morgul vail and fight Shelob granddaughter of Ungalant. Not Marshed, go to Gondor almost fall tothe Wraiths and then end of MOVIE! Fuck is Jackson too weak to end the movie where to book ends? Um YES. What an ASSHOLE!!!!!
d. Glorfindle didn't go to Helms Deep and sure as fuck didn't die there. He's a high elf, he went to Valinor, he at least 80% as bad ass a Gandalf but he sure wasn't in this movie.
e. Eowin WOULD BECOME MORTAL IF SHE BINDS HER SOUL TO ARAGORN. Dude, did Peter Jackson EVEN READ THIS FUCKING BOOK! How the FUCK did he think Elrond got to be a halfelf? His mother DIED a human. What a fucking JACKASS.
f. Um... what happened to the Hurons?
g. Why id there an HOUR of usless shit in this move and why does it lack about a quarter of the actual text?
h. WHY? WHY? WHY?
i. Gandalf was naked when he fought the Balrog.
j. This is my only complaint from the 1st movie but it fits here too... Glamdring the Foe HAmmer glow when orc are near too. Stings a fucking pig sticker next to Gandalf's sword.
In the end yes, like Titanic, it was a ship full of hubris that smashed into the iceberg of logic and sank.
THIS MOVIE NEEDS A PHANTOM EDIT!
-F34nor
Feanor fairest of those who saw the light of the two trees.
I had a e-mail exchange with Brin about this an I think you frankly don't know what the f*ck you're talking about.
The Postman sucked but the book was good so blame Brian Helgel and Eric Roth, they wrote the screenplay or Kevin Costner the director. Brin's analysis of the those movies was pretty good. Better then your glib "fetid, steaming, pile of crap"
Now with StarWars the blame is on Lucas and he richly deserves it because at least he should know better. The real problem is Lucas is getting you to bank role the paradigm shift to all digital movie making. Just as offensve as the film/video shift highlighted by Boogie Nights. Lucas couldn't give less of a shit about the story etc of StarWars it just has to be good enough to keep you from walking out of the theater.
As I said to Brin, Attack of the Clones was object oriented programing. He draged and droped story boards from his other movies to make a very medicore movie that didn't piss too many people off and had one scene that you watched the movie for. Lame as it was it was 1000x better then Episode I.
If you think Lucas should have any credit for even Episode 4/A New Hope you should get off your illterate ass and watch Hidden Fotress by Akira Kurosawa and relize that Lucas is a f*cking theif who doesn't have the style to wash Kurosawa's feet.
You need to understand the issues of Illuvitar vs. Melkor, Manwe vs. Melkor, Feanor vs. Melkor, then Sauron vs. Numenorians, Sauron vs. Elves, Sauron vs. Wizards.
Sauron is a 2nd level being HE IS NOT A GOD. He is a demi god. Same level in the Pantheon as the Balrogs and Dragons. When Feanor failed to defeat Melkor and return the stones *insert whole book here* the Valanor finally got pissed and bound Melkor in chains and took him off. Sauron got left behind to do his masters work. All Sauron wants to do is sow discord in the harmony of the music of Illuvitar. But as it says in the beginging no matter what you do you can only make his majesty greater. ie. no matter how hard the darkness rages against the light, the light will onyl become brighter. Sauron knows he can never be god, he's 2nd fiddle to 2nd fiddle at best.
As a reader of the LOTR you don't have access to the facts. Don't base your understanding of gods by watch the last chapter of the last book of the last story. Read the genisis.
The scene with the guys in Tuxes and her on the stairs is knocking them away and then drawing them near again is from Material World. This scene is from Metropolis. It comes in the late middle when the robot goes to the night club district to get naked and drinks with the rich kids (first time I've seen a robot with a nipple.) I can't remeber the 'X-Prs Yo'sef' video so she might have stolen that one too.
Actually your living it Fritz Lang's Metropolis if you think you are livining in a material world. Does she have to pay royalties for stealing visual styles?
I was hopping it came with the music she pirated!
If it did there'd be some Whilliam Orbit in there it bet!
Its funny that you say its not worth watching. When I watched the handtaped video of Phantom Menace I like it ALOT better than the studio release. I found the noise took the edge of the the OVERLY brilant and glossly look of the movie. The circle was complete when I saw the Phantom Edit. God why oh why are movies open source.
LETS BRING THE COPY RIGHT BACK TO 14 YEARS!
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Synopsis:
Elaine's dancing ("a full-body dry heave set to music") makes her an object of ridicule
among her staff. When Peterman employee Anna (Rebecca McFarland) gets a crush on George, believing him to be a "bad boy," he eagerly makes like a latter-day Fonzie. Kramer's pistol-packin' pal Brody (Neil Giuntoli) forces Jerry to become a video-bootlegging auteur.
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The goldern path is the idea that if you limit humanity to a closed system at least one path will lead to extinction. For instance if you take a long view of histroy we can safely say the humanity will go extinct... when the sun burns up Earth. Not much of a worry really but we can say it with absolut certanty. From this absolute we can argue the specifics.
We have to get off this fucking rock. We should honestly have no greater priority, except maybe not doing ireperable harm before we go.
Somehow the lifeboat seems um... a little small and isolated. I want the Niven's Ringworld / Bank's Culture Orbitals. No Halo Please I don't want the people who thought up Durandal making my habitat. I want billions of people per habitat. The only way to do that is spheres, nano or biological manufacturing, and a large source or raw materials. That and some balls. Oh yeah and a SHIT load of money.
-F34nor
VHF?
Has anyone noticed that Lawrence Livermoe has been able to fit a full HDTV singal into the UNUSED portion of NTSC. That means we can take back those free VHF channels we gave to the local stations for the HDTV phase in.
Oh wait we have REPUBLICS in the House, Senate, Executive AND the Judical. We're f*cked. We'll be lucky if we don't have all the media outlets in the entire world owned and opperated by 3 corporations in 2 years.
No one is giving anti-biotics to sushi.
Try Ocean nasal spray before you get the infection. It's just a saline spray that keep your mucus membranes moist. Also use it on planes, keeps you from getting cracks in your skin inside your sinus that allow infection. Stuff works better than anything for flying and not getting sick. My freind who gets 150,000 miles a year told me about it.
Saying nanotech can cause cancer is like saying energy can cause cancer. True but simplistic. I am sure, (I will at least go out on a long limb and say) that inhaling bacteria size robots causes lung cancer. Suprised? Yummy carbon and steel good for lungs...
I am also sure (although less so) that the advent of true self assembley and or nanotech Von Neuman machines will allow for a gemoetric increase in our industrial output. Does this mean that we we be able to use this technology to terraform the Earth? Um... maybe, it all deepends on human achivement and ambission. Like the current problems with or computer and networks it will depend on the software.
My biggest hope of VonNeuman machines is for mining landfills.
You all need to look into what they are calling the "long term carbon cycle." It shows a long term (geological) temp. swing that is dependant on carbon being subsumed into the mantel and release from volcanoes, plants and people are a drop in the bucket. The gulf stream has been stopping the long term cycle in the last 8000 years. When the ice age starts to end there is increased ice flow from the artic to the north Atlantic this causes a fresh water influx into the top of the gulf stream that stops it and in turn begins to cool the planet again. Hence the ability for man to get out of the dark ages was a direct results of the unusually stable temperatures we have been getting. The proof is in the Bahamas and the ice core samples. Face it people we ARE IN AN ICE AGE. Hotter is going to suck but its the law of averages we are fighting. Also face the fact the carbon cycle is geologic rather than biological.
We do not spend 50% of our budget on the military. We spend ~60% on Social Secuirty. Of what is left we might spend ~30% or 1/6 of the total on the military.
Right now the site is not coming up on my machine. Slashdoted? The page cannot be displayed.
Ok, ok, ok. Those are all funny and all but still have NOTHING on Wiskey Dick. I mean give me a break, pee-pee, wang, dong cock, etc are just penis words. Wiskey Dick means something. It means I combined at least 3 excesses and lost.
Wanker's Corner NOTHING!
There's a place on the Oregon maps called "Whiskey Dick." It right near North Junction on the Deschutes River maybe 20 miles South of Maupin.