I see.. so it works.:) I wasn't ready to take the 9.0 plunge... too much critical data sitting on my system and too little time to fix any problems!:)
I upgrade by hand using upgradepkg. And when packages aren't available, I compile by hand and make Slackware packages myself. I heard that autopkg was good but have never used it. How about you?
Haha.. very well said! I agree totally.. I use both Slackware and Debian on a daily basis. Debian really gets in my way of doing things. And when the package dependencies screw up, you're totally screwed too. Gotta run those arcane commands just to get things fixed. Far, FARRRR cry from Slackware. Once I have the time, Debian's off my second PC.
I use Slackware on a daily basis. I love it, but one trend that I observe (which could be improved) is this:
1. Official Slackware release. 2. Stable branch gets updated at warp speed.. once new software comes out or security fixes become available, the stable branch has it first. 3. After a while, current branch starts. Now current branch gets updated at warp speed. 4. Stable branch looks like it's forgotten. Doesn't get updates for months (except for very critical security fixes).
I tend to update my stuff using the stable branch and it's disappointing to see it being "forgotten." Of course I understand that stable is supposed to mean what it is - stable - but it would still be good to see updates on a more frequent basis.
Sure, there are unofficial packages on places like www.linuxpackages.net but I trust the official ones a lot more. And being a typical Slackware user, I compile heaps of stuff and create home-made Slackware packages all the time.. but there are certain things like glibc that I'd rather leave alone.
I used to update from the current branch but this particular current branch from 8.1->9.0 is a huge leap (the gcc change) so it couldn't be done this time.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Linux has not been evaluated using the Common Criteria (although a piece of recent news stated the intention to do so).
Isn't the U.S. Army only allowed to use products that have been evaluated using the Common Criteria?
No one is arguing that Sun should provide free software.
Uh actually, there are a lot of people out there who believe that the concept of companies making money is bad and everything should be free. Wouldn't be surprised
Your right! Why can't those memory companies get there products right? I wonder if things will ever get better then they were the past. Let's hope its really so.
I've been wondering whether I should fork out the money for this one. Looks like an interesting alternative. The irritating thing is that there's no guarantee that it works, but then again, no product out there has one anyway.
Anyone know how to make Phoenix share bookmarks with old Mozilla?
If you just want to copy the bookmarks over from Moz to Phoenix, just copy the old bookmarks.html from your Moz user profile directory to the Phoenix user profile directory.
If you want to share bookmarks, I *think* you can try making a symbolic link for bookmarks.html in Phoenix to point to your Mozilla user directory.
Disclaimer: I haven't tried this and I'm not sure if it can be done! Theoretically, it should though. And because it uses symbolic links, this works only on Linux/UNIX variants.
For example, if your Moz user profile is in ~/.mozilla/default/xxxxxxx/ and your Phoenix user profile is in ~/.phoenix/default/yyyyyyy/ then you can enter the following commands:
cd ~/.phoenix/default/yyyyyyy ln -s ~/.mozilla/default/xxxxxxx/bookmarks.html.
Again, I haven't tried this yet, and I don't know if it can be done. So please try this at your own risk. Make a backup of your Mozilla bookmarks.html first.
If it works, let me know.:)
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I don't know the answer to this one, but you might want to check out OpenOffice.org's IssueZilla, where you can search their bug tracking system for answers.
No, 90% of users will never change the skin. If more than 10% will, then GNOME/KDE still have a long way to go (96%+ of windows users never change the color scheme; 75%+ never change the wallpaper)
Now, I would really love to hear where you got your stats from.
"Representatives Jay Inslee (D-WA), George Nethercutt (R-WA) and Rick Boucher (D-VA) have stepped up to protect small businesses from being unfairly forced out of business by the performance copyright royalties recently affirmed by the Librarian of Congress. They have introduced a bill in the US House of Representatives (HR 5285) that would SAVE INTERNET RADIO (click here to view a copy of this important legislation). In protecting Internet radio, it will help ensure that artists will have a chance to receive fair compensation for their work and that webcasters will have a chance to survive and grow to provide artists with a place to promote their music."
VOW also has a page where you can send a fax to Congress about this legislation.
Perhaps that is because 1 US Dollar is worth almost 4 Ringgit Malaysia.
Yes, that was implied in my post. Perhaps I should've spelled it out. The ringgit has been fixed at 3.80 US dollars ever since the huge Asian economy crash back in '97-'98.
What you are saying - "One of the main reasons is that commercial software is usually sold at the equivalent price of US dollars. This means that software is almost four times as expensive in Malaysia." - is just an excuse !
Straight from the beginning of my post, I said that piracy is WRONG. I personally use open source software. But I said I do understand what motivates people to pirate software. That's NOT advocating piracy, is it? Did you read my post or not?
But of course, you might not be a Christian, you might be a Moslem, who hates Christians. But no matter what religious belief you belong to, stealing is STILL stealing, even your Allah will tell you that stealing is STILL stealing.
You are SO clueless I don't even know where to begin. Just because I'm Malaysian that doesn't mean that I'm a Moslem (and I'm NOT). This is SO uncalled for. And you said that you worked in Malaysia so I'm even more shocked at your uneducated response. Where do you stay and work in Malaysia, some hole in the ground? You would've been better off not telling me your little secret.
Look, I know that stealing is stealing, in fact I referred to piracy as stealing, while the posters who replied earlier said that it's copyright infringement. Bottom line is that it's a crime. And I don't advocate it.
Wow, now that's a term I didn't expect to ever see on Slashdot!:)
No I'm not a bumiputra. Here's what I know. Bumiputras get preference when they enrol for local Malaysian universities. It's much easier for them to get scholarships and admittance to a local university, compared to a non-bumiputra -- even if their SPM grades (SPM = SAT-equivalent) are lower than non-bumiputras. And they have this "quota" policy. Like there can be only a certain amount of non-bumis enrolled in any local university. That pretty much destroys the chances of non-bumis getting in, especially the poorer ones, no matter how smart they are. It's really a shame.
I'm not sure if bumis get a free education or not. The reason I don't know is because non-bumis generally do not even consider getting into local universities, because of discriminatory policies. Even if they get admitted, they've got to work their asses off just to graduate. The result is very few non-bumis actually attend local universities.
I do know that bumis get a whole ton of government benefits, and a whole bunch of them do get government sponsorship to overseas universities like those in the States. All this while the non-bumis bust their asses just to get a decent education.
Yeah this whole nonsensical policy is from the '60s, when they were trying to get the bumis to catch up with the non-bumis. It was supposed to be removed when the bumis finally catch up with the non-bumis.. well it's 2002 now and it's still going on. They can't take it off because the bumis have become too dependent on it.. and they can't live without it. Any politician who suggests removing the policy gets a whole lot of opposition from bumis.
Well that's how I understand it. I think I got the gist of it, but some of the things I say may not be entirely accurate.. because I don't really follow the politics at home. I'm just darn sick and tired of it.
Take Photoshop for example. Want to be a graphic designer? There is no real competitor to Photoshop (and don't give me that PaintShop Pro/GIMP garbage, they don't compare and are NOT suited well towards print media/prepress). If you're going into graphic design then you're using Photoshop, Illustrator/Freehand, and Quark/InDesign, plain and simple.
Good point. How about...
Quicken - Gnucash doesn't cut it (yet).
Adobe Acrobat - Ghostscript tools are not user-friendly enough.
SmartDraw/Visio - OpenOffice.org Draw is ok, but I want something with lots of templates for software engineering, networking, etc.
Macromedia Flash (the editor, whatever it's called) - any OSS equivalents out there?
MS Office documents - we need something that reads those.doc files flawlessly, please!
If anyone knows of better free software alternatives out there for the above list, please post!
I assume any Malaysian can go to any college and university for free there?
I sure wish that's the case. I'm Malaysian and my parents worked really hard just to put me through school, college, and university. The discriminatory government didn't help either, but that's a different story.
And in case you're wondering about my views on this topic, no I don't support software piracy and I think it's wrong.
As a Malaysian, I am ashamed to read on Slashdot that a Malaysian minister actually says that it's okay to pirate software, never mind that it's for educational purposes. Pirating software is still stealing software, no matter how you look at it.
Like the Slashdotters who have posted before me, I've resorted to using Linux and other open source alternatives instead of pirated software.
Having said that, I do understand the reasons that motivate many Malaysians and other citizens of developing and third-world countries to pirate software. One of the main reasons is that commercial software is usually sold at the equivalent price of US dollars. This means that software is almost four times as expensive in Malaysia. A US$100 software sounds relatively cheap here in the US, but in Malaysia it would cost almost RM400 (RM = Ringgit Malaysia). Many individuals, educational organizations, and so forth find such prices ridiculously high. Imagine buying 10 licenses: it would cost US$1,000 here, but it'll cost RM4,000 there. Therefore they resort to pirating software.
It would be good if software companies here in the US provide alternative prices for developing countries. It's really unrealistic to expect people to pay for software at such prices. Maybe they already do that, but I don't know.. I use Linux.:)
Actually it would be even better if governments advocate the use of open source software. But first, open source software must get its act up as a viable alternative for commercial software. At the moment, it's not "there" yet, for many desktop applications anyway.
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I see.. so it works. :) I wasn't ready to take the 9.0 plunge... too much critical data sitting on my system and too little time to fix any problems! :)
I upgrade by hand using upgradepkg. And when packages aren't available, I compile by hand and make Slackware packages myself. I heard that autopkg was good but have never used it. How about you?
Haha.. very well said! I agree totally.. I use both Slackware and Debian on a daily basis. Debian really gets in my way of doing things. And when the package dependencies screw up, you're totally screwed too. Gotta run those arcane commands just to get things fixed. Far, FARRRR cry from Slackware. Once I have the time, Debian's off my second PC.
I use Slackware on a daily basis. I love it, but one trend that I observe (which could be improved) is this:
1. Official Slackware release.
2. Stable branch gets updated at warp speed.. once new software comes out or security fixes become available, the stable branch has it first.
3. After a while, current branch starts. Now current branch gets updated at warp speed.
4. Stable branch looks like it's forgotten. Doesn't get updates for months (except for very critical security fixes).
I tend to update my stuff using the stable branch and it's disappointing to see it being "forgotten." Of course I understand that stable is supposed to mean what it is - stable - but it would still be good to see updates on a more frequent basis.
Sure, there are unofficial packages on places like www.linuxpackages.net but I trust the official ones a lot more. And being a typical Slackware user, I compile heaps of stuff and create home-made Slackware packages all the time.. but there are certain things like glibc that I'd rather leave alone.
I used to update from the current branch but this particular current branch from 8.1->9.0 is a huge leap (the gcc change) so it couldn't be done this time.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC Linux has not been evaluated using the Common Criteria (although a piece of recent news stated the intention to do so).
Isn't the U.S. Army only allowed to use products that have been evaluated using the Common Criteria?
No one is arguing that Sun should provide free software.
:))
Uh actually, there are a lot of people out there who believe that the concept of companies making money is bad and everything should be free. Wouldn't be surprised
(But I'm not one of them.
Your right! Why can't those memory companies get there products right? I wonder if things will ever get better then they were the past. Let's hope its really so.
I've been wondering whether I should fork out the money for this one. Looks like an interesting alternative. The irritating thing is that there's no guarantee that it works, but then again, no product out there has one anyway.
You might want to check out this article too.
Anyway I'll be checking this one out.. if you're gonna get this, let me know too. Perhaps we can exchange some information about it.
It still depends on what kind of news you're looking for.
Meanwhile, I've tried to suggest that the developers of the Perl/QT user interface compiler choose a less disgusting name than "puic" ...
Ugh! I would say, keep pressing on. Having a name like "puic" is like asking to be ridiculed into oblivion!
If you just want to copy the bookmarks over from Moz to Phoenix, just copy the old bookmarks.html from your Moz user profile directory to the Phoenix user profile directory.
If you want to share bookmarks, I *think* you can try making a symbolic link for bookmarks.html in Phoenix to point to your Mozilla user directory.
Disclaimer: I haven't tried this and I'm not sure if it can be done! Theoretically, it should though. And because it uses symbolic links, this works only on Linux/UNIX variants.
For example, if your Moz user profile is in ~/.mozilla/default/xxxxxxx/ and your Phoenix user profile is in ~/.phoenix/default/yyyyyyy/ then you can enter the following commands:Again, I haven't tried this yet, and I don't know if it can be done. So please try this at your own risk. Make a backup of your Mozilla bookmarks.html first.
If it works, let me know.
I don't know the answer to this one, but you might want to check out OpenOffice.org's IssueZilla, where you can search their bug tracking system for answers.
No, 90% of users will never change the skin. If more than 10% will, then GNOME/KDE still have a long way to go (96%+ of windows users never change the color scheme; 75%+ never change the wallpaper)
Now, I would really love to hear where you got your stats from.
One of the classes at my university last year had to write a simulation like this using Eiffel. Ick!
;)
Ugh.. I couldn't agree with you more. Writing in Eiffel is a sin. I had to do the same thing. Hmm I wonder if we attended the same university.
Here's a quote from my friend.. "They should make prisoners write Eiffel code."
If you really care about Internet radio and wish to see it remain free, check out the Internet Radio Fairness Act.
Quoted from Voice of Webcasters (VOW):
"Representatives Jay Inslee (D-WA), George Nethercutt (R-WA) and Rick Boucher (D-VA) have stepped up to protect small businesses from being unfairly forced out of business by the performance copyright royalties recently affirmed by the Librarian of Congress. They have introduced a bill in the US House of Representatives (HR 5285) that would SAVE INTERNET RADIO (click here to view a copy of this important legislation). In protecting Internet radio, it will help ensure that artists will have a chance to receive fair compensation for their work and that webcasters will have a chance to survive and grow to provide artists with a place to promote their music."
VOW also has a page where you can send a fax to Congress about this legislation.
I'm not familiar with this. What's the story behind #slackware splitting?
Uhh.. I thought the Sun developed both the JVM and Solaris. I would think that they would optimize their JVM for their own OS.
While we're on this topic, does anyone know of any decent pinball game that runs well on Linux?
Perhaps that is because 1 US Dollar is worth almost 4 Ringgit Malaysia.
Yes, that was implied in my post. Perhaps I should've spelled it out. The ringgit has been fixed at 3.80 US dollars ever since the huge Asian economy crash back in '97-'98.
What you are saying - "One of the main reasons is that commercial software is usually sold at the equivalent price of US dollars. This means that software is almost four times as expensive in Malaysia." - is just an excuse !
Straight from the beginning of my post, I said that piracy is WRONG. I personally use open source software. But I said I do understand what motivates people to pirate software. That's NOT advocating piracy, is it? Did you read my post or not?
But of course, you might not be a Christian, you might be a Moslem, who hates Christians. But no matter what religious belief you belong to, stealing is STILL stealing, even your Allah will tell you that stealing is STILL stealing.
You are SO clueless I don't even know where to begin. Just because I'm Malaysian that doesn't mean that I'm a Moslem (and I'm NOT). This is SO uncalled for. And you said that you worked in Malaysia so I'm even more shocked at your uneducated response. Where do you stay and work in Malaysia, some hole in the ground? You would've been better off not telling me your little secret.
Look, I know that stealing is stealing, in fact I referred to piracy as stealing, while the posters who replied earlier said that it's copyright infringement. Bottom line is that it's a crime. And I don't advocate it.
Next time read the bloody post before you reply.
Well thanks for the update. I don't keep up-to-date with stuff at home because I'm totally fed up with it. Well, I'll believe it when I see it.
I just wish we'll just cut this racial issue crap and stick with totally merit-based non-discriminatory policies. Don't you?
I'm so bloody tired with archaic nonsense.
Oh yes, Dreamweaver. Yeah I left it out because I don't use it. Maybe we should compile a whole list of stuff that doesn't have OSS equivalents.
Wow, now that's a term I didn't expect to ever see on Slashdot! :)
No I'm not a bumiputra. Here's what I know. Bumiputras get preference when they enrol for local Malaysian universities. It's much easier for them to get scholarships and admittance to a local university, compared to a non-bumiputra -- even if their SPM grades (SPM = SAT-equivalent) are lower than non-bumiputras. And they have this "quota" policy. Like there can be only a certain amount of non-bumis enrolled in any local university. That pretty much destroys the chances of non-bumis getting in, especially the poorer ones, no matter how smart they are. It's really a shame.
I'm not sure if bumis get a free education or not. The reason I don't know is because non-bumis generally do not even consider getting into local universities, because of discriminatory policies. Even if they get admitted, they've got to work their asses off just to graduate. The result is very few non-bumis actually attend local universities.
I do know that bumis get a whole ton of government benefits, and a whole bunch of them do get government sponsorship to overseas universities like those in the States. All this while the non-bumis bust their asses just to get a decent education.
Yeah this whole nonsensical policy is from the '60s, when they were trying to get the bumis to catch up with the non-bumis. It was supposed to be removed when the bumis finally catch up with the non-bumis.. well it's 2002 now and it's still going on. They can't take it off because the bumis have become too dependent on it.. and they can't live without it. Any politician who suggests removing the policy gets a whole lot of opposition from bumis.
Well that's how I understand it. I think I got the gist of it, but some of the things I say may not be entirely accurate.. because I don't really follow the politics at home. I'm just darn sick and tired of it.
Good point. How about...
- Quicken - Gnucash doesn't cut it (yet).
- Adobe Acrobat - Ghostscript tools are not user-friendly enough.
- SmartDraw/Visio - OpenOffice.org Draw is ok, but I want something with lots of templates for software engineering, networking, etc.
- Macromedia Flash (the editor, whatever it's called) - any OSS equivalents out there?
- MS Office documents - we need something that reads those
.doc files flawlessly, please!
If anyone knows of better free software alternatives out there for the above list, please post!I assume any Malaysian can go to any college and university for free there?
I sure wish that's the case. I'm Malaysian and my parents worked really hard just to put me through school, college, and university. The discriminatory government didn't help either, but that's a different story.
And in case you're wondering about my views on this topic, no I don't support software piracy and I think it's wrong.
As a Malaysian, I am ashamed to read on Slashdot that a Malaysian minister actually says that it's okay to pirate software, never mind that it's for educational purposes. Pirating software is still stealing software, no matter how you look at it.
:)
Like the Slashdotters who have posted before me, I've resorted to using Linux and other open source alternatives instead of pirated software.
Having said that, I do understand the reasons that motivate many Malaysians and other citizens of developing and third-world countries to pirate software. One of the main reasons is that commercial software is usually sold at the equivalent price of US dollars. This means that software is almost four times as expensive in Malaysia. A US$100 software sounds relatively cheap here in the US, but in Malaysia it would cost almost RM400 (RM = Ringgit Malaysia). Many individuals, educational organizations, and so forth find such prices ridiculously high. Imagine buying 10 licenses: it would cost US$1,000 here, but it'll cost RM4,000 there. Therefore they resort to pirating software.
It would be good if software companies here in the US provide alternative prices for developing countries. It's really unrealistic to expect people to pay for software at such prices. Maybe they already do that, but I don't know.. I use Linux.
Actually it would be even better if governments advocate the use of open source software. But first, open source software must get its act up as a viable alternative for commercial software. At the moment, it's not "there" yet, for many desktop applications anyway.