...and if you like using our ports you do the same.
Actually, we don't give a shit about your ports, we have plenty of ports of our own and many of them don't get buried in snow five months a year.
Generally you don't go pissing in the guy's cereal when they're the ones supplying you with the goods and providing you with most of your base wealth, along with an entire new generation of brains because your edumucation system is in slow decline.
It's a two way street there. Don't get too smug, Canada needs the US more than the US needs Canada. And no, you don't provide the US with wealth, goods are only imported because it's cheaper to do so than to manufacture them internally. If ever the dollar returns to parity with the looney for an extended period of time, Canada will start hurting.
You do realize that the point here is not to compete with Google as an internet search engine, right? When was the last time someone blogged that they were going to stuff half a kilo of heroin up their ass and sneak it across the border, then rob a bank? The point is to try and improve security. While taking someone's fingerprint isn't going to stop them from committing a crime -- once someone has identified themselves by doing so (robbing a seven-eleven, raping a college co-ed, smuggling drugs or weapons) -- it provides a starting point for the investigation. Information like who they crossed the border with, what cities they are from, emergency contacts, etc. can be useful in ferreting out criminal networks.
Remember these people are guests in the United States. Like any other situation where a person is a guest, they don't get to come in and make themselves at home, sleep on your sofa and eat out of your fridge.
I can't believe you just said you like to stick rotting vegetables up your butt. Oh, you mean that when you say "I paid $800 for my 2.6Ghz dual core mac!" you actually mean what the words plainly mean? Sorry about my confusion. Why don't you do the world a favor and stop saying "brick" when what you actually mean is "Apple's updates don't include the third-party kludges that allow me to violate their license and run their software on my generic PC."
I don't blame apple either, but I really do wish they would just put out a version of OSX that would run legally on a PC.
Apple doesn't blame you, but they really do wish you'd get their logo tattooed on your face. I suppose though that if wishes were fishes we'd all eat fried chicken. I guess we don't get what we want.
Currency exchange rate is not a good sole indicator of how well economies are doing, especially in a major recession.
Currency exchange rate is the best objective measurement available. It sums up the global opinion of a nation's total economy. You are cherry picking your metrics resulting in a partial picture demonstrating your desired result. The problem with your argument is that a national economy isn't about five percent of it's workers, or two percent of it's businesses. It's about one hundred percent of everything. And today, the people who put their money where their mouths are are seeing the US economy as better place to put their money.
Dollar had only held its ground because the Federal Reserve had been steadily decreasing the interest rate. The problem is that they cannot decrease it any further - it's at 0%.
You might want to actually read the article you linked to before coming and saying the dollar has held it's value because of interest rate cuts. Your statement has it exactly backwards, reduced interest rates put downward pressure on a currency in the exchange markets. That's why the USD has gone down in the last few weeks, because of the interest rate cuts coming from the Fed. And yet the dollar is still stronger on the year against the CAD and EUR. Maybe you should get some Econ 101.
Which is why the "socialist" Canada and EU seem to be doing much better in this crisis than the Land of the Free, right? Oh...
You might want to take the time to become a little informed before you start pounding on your anti-US drum. On the year the US dollar is up compared to the Euro and the Looney.
I'm not arguing fiscal policy. I'm saying that free market has a definition and the various nation's economies are not free markets. Some may be freer than others, but they're not free.
When you drink a 64 oz glass of your own urine each day, spend an hour each day in a room filled with nothing but your exhalations and flatulations, and have your feces sprinkled over your food, then you can make the demand you made in your original post. Until then, you're totally unreasonable. Any useful process creates waste, and the process of "cleaning up" that waste is both unlikely to make that waste actually consumable, and generates waste of its own.
The problem you seem unable to grasp is that some waste is tolerable and some isn't. Barring infections you could drink 64 oz of someone's piss every day without it killing you. Most people spend every day in rooms full of exhaled breath and farts and we are none the worse for wear. And if you are bent that way, you could eat your own shit and if you are healthy, the worst that will happen is your breath will stink.
True most processes create waste, some don't, but so what. Not all waste is inimical to life and health. There are many useful processes that don't have heavy metal byproducts. That don't release high concentration noxious gases into the atmosphere. That don't dump millions of gallons of polluted and toxic water into our aquifers.
The point of my original post was to get people to think about ways to encourage responsibility. Surprisingly enough you not only missed that idea but have gone into full defensive mode to justify everyone else carrying the burdens of your lifestyle. I'm guessing that you're one of those assholes who went out and bought a house for five times its actual worth and now want the rest of your country to pay your mortgage, because "gosh, it would really cramp my lifestyle to have to be responsible for my own choices." You want a big house, you want high tech consumer goods, you want fresh citrus in January, you want "clean" nuclear power? Go ahead, I really don't care. But have enough character to take the fucking responsibility for your actions. We aren't your mommy and your daddy.
I get it from the idea that someone that creates noxious fumes, toxic solid waste, and poisonous wastewater should clean it up before releasing it into the environment. Cleaning it up and paying that cost is internalizing, dumping it into the environment is externalizing.
The latency is identical. The definition of latency is how long it takes a particular sector to become available. An interleave of 1:1, 1:3, 1:9, it doesn't matter. The maximum number of physical revolutions it takes to get to any particular sector is slightly less than one (one single bit's width less than one revolution actually.) When it comes to locating a sector your idea of a "virtual" revolution is irrelevant.
Finally, you can't by a drive manufactured in the last ten years that is interleaved. They just don't exist. From IDE onward the electronics have been fast enough that there is no need.
No, it just means that costs will be internalized as they should be. Why should people who aren't interested in a product bear the burdens of that product's creation?
No free market has just imploded. What you are seeing is the failure of central planning. Even in western societies the results come from lack of transparency and government intervention (ridiculously low interest rates, mandatory lending to unfit borrowers, etc.), both are toxic to a free market (if you don't have informed parties or you have government intervention you don't have a free market by definition.)
Telecom is a natural monopoly, because building multiple networks in parallel is economically inefficient.
If you're going to argue efficiency, then at least do it from the perspective of economics. The most efficient provider will drive the inefficient models out of business. Anytime a more efficient model comes along it will eliminate the older, less efficient models. Always leading to the most efficient result.
Unless you happen to think that somehow you own everybody's money and get to decide how it's spent. Then your argument makes lots of sense. But you don't own anyone else's money and you don't get to decide how it is spent. Governments exist at the whim of the people, not the other way around. Neither the government nor you have any right to tell a private individual how they can use the resources that they have acquired.
Easily solved.... the CEOs, boardmembers, stakeholders and major profit earners of these companies have to live adjacent to the factory. On a daily basis they have to 1) drink a nice 64 oz. glass of any waste water that may exist, 2) they have to sit for an hour in a room fill with any exhaust gases, and 3) any solid waste is ground up and sprinkled over their food.
You can bet that any byproducts will be clean or the guilty parties will receive their just rewards.
The time to wait for a sector to come under the head is known as latency. Seek time is the time to move the head.
That said, I think you are confused even without the terminology mix up. It is true that there are more sectors in the tracks on the outer edge of the drive, however the platters are rigid and the speed is constant (I think WD recently released a drive with a variable spin rate, but most drives run at a constant 7200, 10k, or 15k RPM.) This means that whether a sector is on the innermost track, in the middle, or on the outermost track, it takes exactly the same amount of time to go around. The average latency is the same across the entire drive. It is always 1/2 the time it takes to go around once. A 7200 RPM drive is 4.1 ms, a 10K RPM drive is 3 ms, and a 15K RPM drive is 2 ms.
Due to the higher linear sector density (not 2D bit/sector density since that is approximately constant (for very loose definitions of constant) across the entire drive) of the outer tracks, there are also fewer seeks required for any given amount of data.
Interleave is only a method to hide the time it takes the drive electronics to finish with one sector and become ready for the next. From a performance perspective you can ignore it since the manufacturer will have laid out the sectors on the drive such that the next sequentially numbered sector is arriving at the head as soon as the electronics are ready to read it. For suitably quick electronics with moderately sized read caches there is no interleaving at all.
The inner most tracks are slower or the same for every speed measurement of a drive: The latency is identical. The data rate is slower. And you get more head movement.
You have seven drives in a software raid5. Anytime you do a write, the entire stripe has to be available to recompute parity. If you aren't doing full stripe writes, that will often mean having to read data in from a portion of the drives. A normal PCI slot will give you 132 MB/s max. Possibly that is a limitation, but it's higher than gigabit speeds so you may not care that much. Also your raid controller may not exactly be lightning. But I'd personally suspect the number of columns in your RAID5.
Also, as a little learning experiment, take a drive, make two partitions of a few gig each. Put one of them at the beginning of the drive and put the other at then end of the drive. Benchmark the speed of those two partitions. In case you're not really that interested, the laws of physical make the bits at the outer edge of the platter go by about twice as quickly as the inner edge. So if you are doing a sequential benchmark you'll find that a disk that rates 60MB/s on the outer edge will drop to 35MB/s on the inner edge. So on average, you'll find that the majority of your disk isn't as fast as simple sequential tests suggest.
I'm saying that the usage of piracy to mean copyright infringement has existed for four hundred years. Get over it. This meaningless, insubstantial, argument free post of yours doesn't make people who use the word piracy in this context wrong, it just shows you as ignorant and stupid.
Why should you expect to get something for nothing merely because it's a song?
Because it's very likely that the person you are replying to has never been responsible for their own well being. Everything they have is been given to them. They have developed a belief that anything they want they get without having to put any personal effort into it.
Secondly, he's not saying that piracy can only be done at sea, he's saying it can only be done with physical goods. I kind of agree, I think they should stick to calling it "copyright infringement" since that is what it is. It involves the same idea as piracy in that you end up with something that doesn't belong to you, but it isn't exactly the same thing as stealing, despite being a similar concept. Calling it copyright infringement doesn't make it less illegal, it just is the correct term. Saying copyright infringement is piracy to me is like saying assault is murder.
Well, he'd be wrong and so are you: "Even prior to the 1709 enactment of the Statute of Anne, generally recognized as the first copyright law, the Stationers' Company of London in 1557 received a Royal Charter giving the company a monopoly on publication and tasking it with enforcing the charter. Those who violated the charter were labeled pirates as early as 1603."
Or is it just laughable that you choose to use the name of a great, non-Western historical leader as a derogative while railing against Western Imperialism?
I'm sorry, I can't solve your lack of English reading skills. 1) I was not railing against (or in favor of) Western Imperialism. In fact I don't know that any part of this thread has anything to do with that subject. 2) If you're going to venerate Nimrod, you'd do better than link to a Wikipedia article where he is mostly described as idolatrous and/or evil. Additionally his direct connection to the Biblical Flood place him less in the historical category and more in the fictional column. 3) My response was to point out that most current and historical cultures are not/were not continuous orgies. 4) I don't know about your language, but in my language nimrod means "lover of small herbivores" -- that is: "goatfucker." I was calling the original poster goatfucker because of his stupid, foundationless post.
That's kind of a bad example, many cultures have had no problem with nudity.
Could you please define "cultures" for me? I'm thinking that on one hand you are viewing each little tribe wandering in the wilderness as a distinct culture, even though each one consists of a few hundred individuals at most. And if you stuck them all in a jar and shook it you'd not be able to take the mixture and separate them back into their original "cultures" by examining their behaviors. On the other hand you're placing the entirety of the United States, Canada, Mexico, all of Europe into the same culture.
Christianity and western culture is really fucked up when it concerns nudity and sexuality when you compare it against other peoples, cultures and times.
Yeah, because Indians walk around nude all day long and don't have smoke breaks, they have fuck breaks. Then there are the Chinese going back thousands of years with their phobias against clothing and monogamy. And let us not forget those whores the Japanese. Or the Arabs with their glory holes on every corner going back centuries.
Yeah it's the Western Christians who are uptight.
Many modern people are more primitive then many ancient cultures in their behaviour and ethics.
And at least one slashdot poster agrues from his conclusion. Defining primitive to mean "how western cultures act" makes it easy to castigate western cultures as primitive. Nimrod.
Nice. How's the replication work on that rig you just built? And how many IOPS you getting? And how quickly will your vendor bring replacement hardware to you? How many filesystem snapshots can you take with your fancy ICH9 supporting linux? You gonna back that up over NDMP? How's the thin provisioning working out for you there? How much data you pushing through those two slots? Where's the other 2 gig ethernet ports. You got hot swappable power supplies there? After you're done stuffing all that gear onto your mobo, how many pcie slots you got left for future growth?
No offense, but try and get some clue as to what it takes to have a commodity class storage appliance.
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Actually, we don't give a shit about your ports, we have plenty of ports of our own and many of them don't get buried in snow five months a year.
It's a two way street there. Don't get too smug, Canada needs the US more than the US needs Canada. And no, you don't provide the US with wealth, goods are only imported because it's cheaper to do so than to manufacture them internally. If ever the dollar returns to parity with the looney for an extended period of time, Canada will start hurting.
You do realize that the point here is not to compete with Google as an internet search engine, right? When was the last time someone blogged that they were going to stuff half a kilo of heroin up their ass and sneak it across the border, then rob a bank? The point is to try and improve security. While taking someone's fingerprint isn't going to stop them from committing a crime -- once someone has identified themselves by doing so (robbing a seven-eleven, raping a college co-ed, smuggling drugs or weapons) -- it provides a starting point for the investigation. Information like who they crossed the border with, what cities they are from, emergency contacts, etc. can be useful in ferreting out criminal networks.
Remember these people are guests in the United States. Like any other situation where a person is a guest, they don't get to come in and make themselves at home, sleep on your sofa and eat out of your fridge.
I thought mom and dad provided all that.
I can't believe you just said you like to stick rotting vegetables up your butt. Oh, you mean that when you say "I paid $800 for my 2.6Ghz dual core mac!" you actually mean what the words plainly mean? Sorry about my confusion. Why don't you do the world a favor and stop saying "brick" when what you actually mean is "Apple's updates don't include the third-party kludges that allow me to violate their license and run their software on my generic PC."
Apple doesn't blame you, but they really do wish you'd get their logo tattooed on your face. I suppose though that if wishes were fishes we'd all eat fried chicken. I guess we don't get what we want.
Currency exchange rate is the best objective measurement available. It sums up the global opinion of a nation's total economy. You are cherry picking your metrics resulting in a partial picture demonstrating your desired result. The problem with your argument is that a national economy isn't about five percent of it's workers, or two percent of it's businesses. It's about one hundred percent of everything. And today, the people who put their money where their mouths are are seeing the US economy as better place to put their money.
You might want to actually read the article you linked to before coming and saying the dollar has held it's value because of interest rate cuts. Your statement has it exactly backwards, reduced interest rates put downward pressure on a currency in the exchange markets. That's why the USD has gone down in the last few weeks, because of the interest rate cuts coming from the Fed. And yet the dollar is still stronger on the year against the CAD and EUR. Maybe you should get some Econ 101.
You might want to take the time to become a little informed before you start pounding on your anti-US drum. On the year the US dollar is up compared to the Euro and the Looney.
I'm not arguing fiscal policy. I'm saying that free market has a definition and the various nation's economies are not free markets. Some may be freer than others, but they're not free.
If people don't have access to the same information and are free to do business with whoever they choose you don't have a free market.
So you agree then, the current financial troubles in the world are not a free market failure.
The problem you seem unable to grasp is that some waste is tolerable and some isn't. Barring infections you could drink 64 oz of someone's piss every day without it killing you. Most people spend every day in rooms full of exhaled breath and farts and we are none the worse for wear. And if you are bent that way, you could eat your own shit and if you are healthy, the worst that will happen is your breath will stink.
True most processes create waste, some don't, but so what. Not all waste is inimical to life and health. There are many useful processes that don't have heavy metal byproducts. That don't release high concentration noxious gases into the atmosphere. That don't dump millions of gallons of polluted and toxic water into our aquifers.
The point of my original post was to get people to think about ways to encourage responsibility. Surprisingly enough you not only missed that idea but have gone into full defensive mode to justify everyone else carrying the burdens of your lifestyle. I'm guessing that you're one of those assholes who went out and bought a house for five times its actual worth and now want the rest of your country to pay your mortgage, because "gosh, it would really cramp my lifestyle to have to be responsible for my own choices." You want a big house, you want high tech consumer goods, you want fresh citrus in January, you want "clean" nuclear power? Go ahead, I really don't care. But have enough character to take the fucking responsibility for your actions. We aren't your mommy and your daddy.
I get it from the idea that someone that creates noxious fumes, toxic solid waste, and poisonous wastewater should clean it up before releasing it into the environment. Cleaning it up and paying that cost is internalizing, dumping it into the environment is externalizing.
The latency is identical. The definition of latency is how long it takes a particular sector to become available. An interleave of 1:1, 1:3, 1:9, it doesn't matter. The maximum number of physical revolutions it takes to get to any particular sector is slightly less than one (one single bit's width less than one revolution actually.) When it comes to locating a sector your idea of a "virtual" revolution is irrelevant.
Finally, you can't by a drive manufactured in the last ten years that is interleaved. They just don't exist. From IDE onward the electronics have been fast enough that there is no need.
No, it just means that costs will be internalized as they should be. Why should people who aren't interested in a product bear the burdens of that product's creation?
No free market has just imploded. What you are seeing is the failure of central planning. Even in western societies the results come from lack of transparency and government intervention (ridiculously low interest rates, mandatory lending to unfit borrowers, etc.), both are toxic to a free market (if you don't have informed parties or you have government intervention you don't have a free market by definition.)
If you're going to argue efficiency, then at least do it from the perspective of economics. The most efficient provider will drive the inefficient models out of business. Anytime a more efficient model comes along it will eliminate the older, less efficient models. Always leading to the most efficient result.
Unless you happen to think that somehow you own everybody's money and get to decide how it's spent. Then your argument makes lots of sense. But you don't own anyone else's money and you don't get to decide how it is spent. Governments exist at the whim of the people, not the other way around. Neither the government nor you have any right to tell a private individual how they can use the resources that they have acquired.
Easily solved.... the CEOs, boardmembers, stakeholders and major profit earners of these companies have to live adjacent to the factory. On a daily basis they have to 1) drink a nice 64 oz. glass of any waste water that may exist, 2) they have to sit for an hour in a room fill with any exhaust gases, and 3) any solid waste is ground up and sprinkled over their food.
You can bet that any byproducts will be clean or the guilty parties will receive their just rewards.
I mean of course, the higher per track sector count.
The time to wait for a sector to come under the head is known as latency. Seek time is the time to move the head.
That said, I think you are confused even without the terminology mix up. It is true that there are more sectors in the tracks on the outer edge of the drive, however the platters are rigid and the speed is constant (I think WD recently released a drive with a variable spin rate, but most drives run at a constant 7200, 10k, or 15k RPM.) This means that whether a sector is on the innermost track, in the middle, or on the outermost track, it takes exactly the same amount of time to go around. The average latency is the same across the entire drive. It is always 1/2 the time it takes to go around once. A 7200 RPM drive is 4.1 ms, a 10K RPM drive is 3 ms, and a 15K RPM drive is 2 ms.
Due to the higher linear sector density (not 2D bit/sector density since that is approximately constant (for very loose definitions of constant) across the entire drive) of the outer tracks, there are also fewer seeks required for any given amount of data.
Interleave is only a method to hide the time it takes the drive electronics to finish with one sector and become ready for the next. From a performance perspective you can ignore it since the manufacturer will have laid out the sectors on the drive such that the next sequentially numbered sector is arriving at the head as soon as the electronics are ready to read it. For suitably quick electronics with moderately sized read caches there is no interleaving at all.
The inner most tracks are slower or the same for every speed measurement of a drive: The latency is identical. The data rate is slower. And you get more head movement.
You have seven drives in a software raid5. Anytime you do a write, the entire stripe has to be available to recompute parity. If you aren't doing full stripe writes, that will often mean having to read data in from a portion of the drives. A normal PCI slot will give you 132 MB/s max. Possibly that is a limitation, but it's higher than gigabit speeds so you may not care that much. Also your raid controller may not exactly be lightning. But I'd personally suspect the number of columns in your RAID5.
Also, as a little learning experiment, take a drive, make two partitions of a few gig each. Put one of them at the beginning of the drive and put the other at then end of the drive. Benchmark the speed of those two partitions. In case you're not really that interested, the laws of physical make the bits at the outer edge of the platter go by about twice as quickly as the inner edge. So if you are doing a sequential benchmark you'll find that a disk that rates 60MB/s on the outer edge will drop to 35MB/s on the inner edge. So on average, you'll find that the majority of your disk isn't as fast as simple sequential tests suggest.
I'm saying that the usage of piracy to mean copyright infringement has existed for four hundred years. Get over it. This meaningless, insubstantial, argument free post of yours doesn't make people who use the word piracy in this context wrong, it just shows you as ignorant and stupid.
Because it's very likely that the person you are replying to has never been responsible for their own well being. Everything they have is been given to them. They have developed a belief that anything they want they get without having to put any personal effort into it.
Well, he'd be wrong and so are you: "Even prior to the 1709 enactment of the Statute of Anne, generally recognized as the first copyright law, the Stationers' Company of London in 1557 received a Royal Charter giving the company a monopoly on publication and tasking it with enforcing the charter. Those who violated the charter were labeled pirates as early as 1603."
Look at that. You learn something new every day.
Not to be contentious, but you might want to review your statements before posting.
Dell market cap on 12/10/2008: $23.41 billion.
Apple cash in the bank at quarter ending Sep 08: $24.49 billion.
Apple could write a check for Dell and have a billion dollars left over. If they aren't competing with Dell, it's not because of a lack of money.
It refers to AKAM.
I'm sorry, I can't solve your lack of English reading skills. 1) I was not railing against (or in favor of) Western Imperialism. In fact I don't know that any part of this thread has anything to do with that subject. 2) If you're going to venerate Nimrod, you'd do better than link to a Wikipedia article where he is mostly described as idolatrous and/or evil. Additionally his direct connection to the Biblical Flood place him less in the historical category and more in the fictional column. 3) My response was to point out that most current and historical cultures are not/were not continuous orgies. 4) I don't know about your language, but in my language nimrod means "lover of small herbivores" -- that is: "goatfucker." I was calling the original poster goatfucker because of his stupid, foundationless post.
Could you please define "cultures" for me? I'm thinking that on one hand you are viewing each little tribe wandering in the wilderness as a distinct culture, even though each one consists of a few hundred individuals at most. And if you stuck them all in a jar and shook it you'd not be able to take the mixture and separate them back into their original "cultures" by examining their behaviors. On the other hand you're placing the entirety of the United States, Canada, Mexico, all of Europe into the same culture.
Yeah, because Indians walk around nude all day long and don't have smoke breaks, they have fuck breaks. Then there are the Chinese going back thousands of years with their phobias against clothing and monogamy. And let us not forget those whores the Japanese. Or the Arabs with their glory holes on every corner going back centuries.
Yeah it's the Western Christians who are uptight.
And at least one slashdot poster agrues from his conclusion. Defining primitive to mean "how western cultures act" makes it easy to castigate western cultures as primitive. Nimrod.
Nice. How's the replication work on that rig you just built? And how many IOPS you getting? And how quickly will your vendor bring replacement hardware to you? How many filesystem snapshots can you take with your fancy ICH9 supporting linux? You gonna back that up over NDMP? How's the thin provisioning working out for you there? How much data you pushing through those two slots? Where's the other 2 gig ethernet ports. You got hot swappable power supplies there? After you're done stuffing all that gear onto your mobo, how many pcie slots you got left for future growth?
No offense, but try and get some clue as to what it takes to have a commodity class storage appliance.