I have this "friend" who is actually my rival and I looked to see if he got accepted; he did. Now he is getting rejected for checking on his acceptance, something he didn't do; it was me.
Oh that is a valid point. I guess we didn't think of the equivalence between the two. But now that you mention it, every employee at Apple did die at the same moment as Raskin so to ask them to update their page is the same thing as to ask Apple.
These things always sound great.. and then the control sucks. SNES emulation on pocketpc's sounds like it would be awesome as hell.. until you find out the direction pad can only press one direction at once and therefore can't get diagonals..
Are you kidding? That's not even possible let alone true. Your cousin probably just corner hacked in an online computer game to win it or something and made that story up to tell you so you would think he was doing something busy.
Are you kidding? U2 is so vain that they made their appearance in the iPod commercials be in greyscale as opposed to monotone like all the other people in every other iPod commercial.
You're right, the Bono act is irrelevent here insofar as having to claim your works to get protection. But you are wrong in your claim that this isn't a bad thing. The point of copyright is to encourage new speech and ideas to get out there. The only thing automatic copyright does is if you say something, don't bother to get it copyrighted because it isn't something you are looking to make money off of, and then later that thing takes off in the public and you want some money, well you have your copyright. But the fact is you said it and would have said it/written it/recorded it regardless of whether or not it had automatic protection. It is adding protection after the fact, similar in a way to how the Bono Act furthers protection on works which have already been put out there into the public (way less subtle and way more insane, I really can't see how Congress defended themselves on this one).
The reason it's bad is because it kills the public domain. Since the Bono act, which made this automatic copyright thing happen, nothing is automatically entering the public domain. The public domain is actually dieing as a concept in America. Consider this: the point of copyright is to encourage the creation of new works. With the Bono Act the government extended the copyrights on hundreds of thousands of already published works. They were already published. How could increasing their protection time under copyright law possibly encourage the creation of new works? The creators of these works saw how long they were protected, agreed to it, and spent the resources to create the works. Going back and giving them a longer protection is a slap in the face to everyone. It is a direct subsidy to media companies worth billions.
Let me fill in a little of the picture. There is not one giant section of law called "IP Laws." You have 3 basic branches, copyright, patent, and trademark. You also have tradesecrets and a couple other things. Without copyright, the GNU license that allows Linux to only be distributed with access to source code would not be enforceable. There would be no requirement for anyone modifying and publishing a new Linux to publish their changes. Without copyright everything is essentially the BSD license, which now that it doesn't have the "give us credit" requirement is basically public domain with an attached disclaimer.
Now, you do often hear Slashdotters who want to repeal copyright (these are a minority) or to limit the timeframe in which a copyrights last and also limit the "automatic" elements of getting a copyright--any little peice of shit you scribble on a paper is automatically copyrighted to you, there is no need to register-- (these are a majority).
What I think you must be referring to in regards to linux is the broad notion around here that software patents should not exist. They don't in the EU, so it isn't totally some crazy ass notion only found here on Slashdot. You can't patent math and with that in hand many claim you shouldn't be able to patent programs. There are a few problems with this claim and it is widely debated, but it is crazy to say all slashdotters want it to be abolished.
Now, what I've never heard on Slashdot, though I'm sure it's been said, is that trademarks should be abolished. Trademarks protect your product in much the same way libel laws protect your reputation. Even if this company is granted a trademark trust me, there are provisions in trademark law which won't allow the company to prevent the MAME people from continuing to use the name MAME. Looking at this filing I am also very confident that if it does get accepted it will be invalidated if anything about it ever goes to court. Now, the only thing you might possibly thinking of in regards to slashdotter's hypocrisy with trademarks is that many were really angry at the way ICANN handled trademark disputes on domainnames. For instance for a while they would take away your domain if you registered fordsucks.com and Ford asked them to. This was certainly not a problem with US trademark law that slashdotter's had because it was completely ICANN who was doing it. If Ford had attempted to sue whoever ran fordsucks.com in court they would never have succeeded. Trademark law wasn't the problem, it was poor application of it by ICANN.
Ah, with respect to xenon.. Well to ask that question you must first ask this one: what does xenon have to do with Intel releasing 64 bit p4's? Well you see intel has a chipline, Xeon, that is one letter away from xenon the element. Using a bit of deductive reasoning you might infer that a mistake was made and the post actually referenced Xeon. So, with respect to xenon with respect to intel launching a 64 bit p4, DMA stands for Doctor of Musical Arts, but there is a decent argument to be made that it might actually be a reference to Direct Memory Access. Anyway, check here and look at comment #3.
Wait, all those rules and interpretations... they are completely made up. It says if you speak against the holy spirit you are going to hell no matter if you later find jesus and completely everything clicks and you are truely sorry. I don't know where you got your rules, here is what it says: "Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." Will NOT be forgiven. How can you say it is only if you ascribed the holy spirit to satan in a very literal sense or blah blah blah. Here's another choice quote I'd like to hear you explain away with made up legal tests. This one is fucking plain. It straight out lays it down for you: "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." Women shouldn't talk in church, they should wait til they get home and have their husband explain it to their tiny little subhuman selves.
And how exactly do you verify that it is coming from signed binaries from the site? They could just compile their own version and have it use the other binary any time it asked it to prove it was the real client. The real way, and this is the way that SETI at el do it, is to assign duplicate data occasionally and randomly and pick out any results that aren't the same.
Even better would be to exhaust waste heat outside in the summer/spring and inside in the fall/winter. Then these things wouldn't really cost any more or less than the closed door versions if the compressor was on par with that in their central air conditioner.
It wasn't supposed to be an argument which says "copyright is not the same as stealing in all cases." All I tried to say, with proof by counterexample you sure as hell can find other examples which work out..., was that it is most certainly not the same thing as stealing and in fact while my example of "never listening to it" was meant to be as absurd as possible there are a lot of other cases, queue up the (often a lie) "I wouldn't ever have bought it anyway," where, when that statement is actually true, it has no relation to theft at all.
Pretty funny troll. I think we also need a national system where instead of refridgerators you have a central freezer in your town that produces and you have a huge ice chest. State employees walk from the freezer to the various houses of the town bringing ice to their ice chests. Each home also has a bum who turns a big ice cream machine type apparatus that acts as a freezer. Salt is mined by other employees with no use of technology for these "freezers" and then walked, no matter what the geographical distance to the mine, to the various houses. If unemployment still continues to rise we can just have the government order people to dig holes and fill them up (this is done in essense anyway every time domestic workers get legislation passed that works against free trade... why not flesh out the rediculousness of it all).
"e.g., a thermal scan of someone's house is NOT plain sight"--True, but that decision was pretty divided. There have been cases such as a regulatory (EPA I think?) agency asking to inspect the grounds of a chemical company, being told no, and then chartering a plane to fly over the company and photograph the premises with 1 inch resolution. That was ruled ok. What truely is the difference? The idea of warrants is that if an ordinary person tried to do what a warrant allows officers to do, it would be in violation of some law (typically trespassing). The fact is, any citizen can legally use thermal monitoring devices to determine hey yeah my neighbors are growing weed in there. Without a law barring citizens from doing it it seems very out of place to interpret the law to not allow police to do it.
"Unless the Iraqis are offering to improve the speed of light, VoIP will always be quite laggy."
Let me try and rephrase that:
"Unless the Iraqis are offering to improve the speed of light, Satphones will always be quite laggy.
I think if you want to give a decent answer to the person who posted this, you can't just snidely come off with "here is your ping given the speed of light." Instead, he is looking for people who may have experience with this. For instance, he wants to know things like how does this work in comparison with a sat phone. If you saw any CNN coverage of the war on Iraq back when they had video uplinks with sat phones, you got to see a bit of the latency that was involved there. Will it be worse with VOIP?
Are you kidding me?!?!111 It is insane that the mozilla prople took out support for the other nations besaides ohs sya AMERICRA in thiery new nightly buildf. This is absord. AMERICRANS can just past into a unidcoe textf editor and just savet that file and then reopen it in a HEX EDITROR (EVERY HEARD OF ONE OF THOSE AMERICRA!?) and t hen see the diffrenrence. Why slow down the rest of the worrld's adotpion of a NONAMERICRAN format just so AMERICRA can keep it's own format!/? Get a HEX EDITRAR. Is it aso hard to do that you have to screw teh whole world over for a WHIM?1/
(sarcasm.. a shame I have to spoil this post with this parenthetical thanks to MODERATRORS.)
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yes, interesting when you consider it along with the license change he made.. surpised it didn't get mentioned in the article blurb.
I have this "friend" who is actually my rival and I looked to see if he got accepted; he did. Now he is getting rejected for checking on his acceptance, something he didn't do; it was me.
So let me get this straight. You thought his mother was illiterate and a computer, and not just a person who was "computer illiterate"?
digital != packet based. GSM is circuit switched. GPRS is run over GSM however.
Oh that is a valid point. I guess we didn't think of the equivalence between the two. But now that you mention it, every employee at Apple did die at the same moment as Raskin so to ask them to update their page is the same thing as to ask Apple.
Yes, I'm sure all the ROMs people are using on this are the freely developed, open source kind. Yes. Surely.
These things always sound great.. and then the control sucks. SNES emulation on pocketpc's sounds like it would be awesome as hell.. until you find out the direction pad can only press one direction at once and therefore can't get diagonals..
Wait! Did I miss something? He said he didn't care.
Are you kidding? That's not even possible let alone true. Your cousin probably just corner hacked in an online computer game to win it or something and made that story up to tell you so you would think he was doing something busy.
Are you kidding? U2 is so vain that they made their appearance in the iPod commercials be in greyscale as opposed to monotone like all the other people in every other iPod commercial.
You're right, the Bono act is irrelevent here insofar as having to claim your works to get protection. But you are wrong in your claim that this isn't a bad thing. The point of copyright is to encourage new speech and ideas to get out there. The only thing automatic copyright does is if you say something, don't bother to get it copyrighted because it isn't something you are looking to make money off of, and then later that thing takes off in the public and you want some money, well you have your copyright. But the fact is you said it and would have said it/written it/recorded it regardless of whether or not it had automatic protection. It is adding protection after the fact, similar in a way to how the Bono Act furthers protection on works which have already been put out there into the public (way less subtle and way more insane, I really can't see how Congress defended themselves on this one).
The reason it's bad is because it kills the public domain. Since the Bono act, which made this automatic copyright thing happen, nothing is automatically entering the public domain. The public domain is actually dieing as a concept in America. Consider this: the point of copyright is to encourage the creation of new works. With the Bono Act the government extended the copyrights on hundreds of thousands of already published works. They were already published. How could increasing their protection time under copyright law possibly encourage the creation of new works? The creators of these works saw how long they were protected, agreed to it, and spent the resources to create the works. Going back and giving them a longer protection is a slap in the face to everyone. It is a direct subsidy to media companies worth billions.
Let me fill in a little of the picture. There is not one giant section of law called "IP Laws." You have 3 basic branches, copyright, patent, and trademark. You also have tradesecrets and a couple other things. Without copyright, the GNU license that allows Linux to only be distributed with access to source code would not be enforceable. There would be no requirement for anyone modifying and publishing a new Linux to publish their changes. Without copyright everything is essentially the BSD license, which now that it doesn't have the "give us credit" requirement is basically public domain with an attached disclaimer.
Now, you do often hear Slashdotters who want to repeal copyright (these are a minority) or to limit the timeframe in which a copyrights last and also limit the "automatic" elements of getting a copyright--any little peice of shit you scribble on a paper is automatically copyrighted to you, there is no need to register-- (these are a majority).
What I think you must be referring to in regards to linux is the broad notion around here that software patents should not exist. They don't in the EU, so it isn't totally some crazy ass notion only found here on Slashdot. You can't patent math and with that in hand many claim you shouldn't be able to patent programs. There are a few problems with this claim and it is widely debated, but it is crazy to say all slashdotters want it to be abolished.
Now, what I've never heard on Slashdot, though I'm sure it's been said, is that trademarks should be abolished. Trademarks protect your product in much the same way libel laws protect your reputation. Even if this company is granted a trademark trust me, there are provisions in trademark law which won't allow the company to prevent the MAME people from continuing to use the name MAME. Looking at this filing I am also very confident that if it does get accepted it will be invalidated if anything about it ever goes to court. Now, the only thing you might possibly thinking of in regards to slashdotter's hypocrisy with trademarks is that many were really angry at the way ICANN handled trademark disputes on domainnames. For instance for a while they would take away your domain if you registered fordsucks.com and Ford asked them to. This was certainly not a problem with US trademark law that slashdotter's had because it was completely ICANN who was doing it. If Ford had attempted to sue whoever ran fordsucks.com in court they would never have succeeded. Trademark law wasn't the problem, it was poor application of it by ICANN.
Ah, with respect to xenon.. Well to ask that question you must first ask this one: what does xenon have to do with Intel releasing 64 bit p4's? Well you see intel has a chipline, Xeon, that is one letter away from xenon the element. Using a bit of deductive reasoning you might infer that a mistake was made and the post actually referenced Xeon. So, with respect to xenon with respect to intel launching a 64 bit p4, DMA stands for Doctor of Musical Arts, but there is a decent argument to be made that it might actually be a reference to Direct Memory Access. Anyway, check here and look at comment #3.
If the insulation is rubber just make sure you don't use vaseline.. same goes with condoms.
Let me ask... does this pentium support DMA in 64 bit mode.. I've heard the xenon's don't.
Wait, all those rules and interpretations... they are completely made up. It says if you speak against the holy spirit you are going to hell no matter if you later find jesus and completely everything clicks and you are truely sorry. I don't know where you got your rules, here is what it says: "Whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven." Will NOT be forgiven. How can you say it is only if you ascribed the holy spirit to satan in a very literal sense or blah blah blah. Here's another choice quote I'd like to hear you explain away with made up legal tests. This one is fucking plain. It straight out lays it down for you: "As in all the congregations of the saints, women should remain silent in the churches. They are not allowed to speak, but must be in submission, as the Law says. If they want to inquire about something, they should ask their own husbands at home; for it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church." Women shouldn't talk in church, they should wait til they get home and have their husband explain it to their tiny little subhuman selves.
And how exactly do you verify that it is coming from signed binaries from the site? They could just compile their own version and have it use the other binary any time it asked it to prove it was the real client. The real way, and this is the way that SETI at el do it, is to assign duplicate data occasionally and randomly and pick out any results that aren't the same.
Even better would be to exhaust waste heat outside in the summer/spring and inside in the fall/winter. Then these things wouldn't really cost any more or less than the closed door versions if the compressor was on par with that in their central air conditioner.
It wasn't supposed to be an argument which says "copyright is not the same as stealing in all cases." All I tried to say, with proof by counterexample you sure as hell can find other examples which work out..., was that it is most certainly not the same thing as stealing and in fact while my example of "never listening to it" was meant to be as absurd as possible there are a lot of other cases, queue up the (often a lie) "I wouldn't ever have bought it anyway," where, when that statement is actually true, it has no relation to theft at all.
Pretty funny troll. I think we also need a national system where instead of refridgerators you have a central freezer in your town that produces and you have a huge ice chest. State employees walk from the freezer to the various houses of the town bringing ice to their ice chests. Each home also has a bum who turns a big ice cream machine type apparatus that acts as a freezer. Salt is mined by other employees with no use of technology for these "freezers" and then walked, no matter what the geographical distance to the mine, to the various houses. If unemployment still continues to rise we can just have the government order people to dig holes and fill them up (this is done in essense anyway every time domestic workers get legislation passed that works against free trade... why not flesh out the rediculousness of it all).
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"e.g., a thermal scan of someone's house is NOT plain sight"--True, but that decision was pretty divided. There have been cases such as a regulatory (EPA I think?) agency asking to inspect the grounds of a chemical company, being told no, and then chartering a plane to fly over the company and photograph the premises with 1 inch resolution. That was ruled ok. What truely is the difference? The idea of warrants is that if an ordinary person tried to do what a warrant allows officers to do, it would be in violation of some law (typically trespassing). The fact is, any citizen can legally use thermal monitoring devices to determine hey yeah my neighbors are growing weed in there. Without a law barring citizens from doing it it seems very out of place to interpret the law to not allow police to do it.
Let me try and rephrase that:
"Unless the Iraqis are offering to improve the speed of light, Satphones will always be quite laggy.
I think if you want to give a decent answer to the person who posted this, you can't just snidely come off with "here is your ping given the speed of light." Instead, he is looking for people who may have experience with this. For instance, he wants to know things like how does this work in comparison with a sat phone. If you saw any CNN coverage of the war on Iraq back when they had video uplinks with sat phones, you got to see a bit of the latency that was involved there. Will it be worse with VOIP?
Are you kidding me?!?!111 It is insane that the mozilla prople took out support for the other nations besaides ohs sya AMERICRA in thiery new nightly buildf. This is absord. AMERICRANS can just past into a unidcoe textf editor and just savet that file and then reopen it in a HEX EDITROR (EVERY HEARD OF ONE OF THOSE AMERICRA!?) and t hen see the diffrenrence. Why slow down the rest of the worrld's adotpion of a NONAMERICRAN format just so AMERICRA can keep it's own format!/? Get a HEX EDITRAR. Is it aso hard to do that you have to screw teh whole world over for a WHIM?1/
(sarcasm.. a shame I have to spoil this post with this parenthetical thanks to MODERATRORS.)