One thing I totally disagree with Zeldman on is this "set your font sizes in pixels" line.
Yes Macintosh and PC have different inherent DPI settings (Mac 72, PC 96) - this is the only difference however. How to solve this problem without using pixels? Have two stylesheets! Decide what size you'd like a font to be and then simple convert the "font-size:" attribute to the other platform.
This works perfectly for me. Finding out which platform is viewing your page is as simple as looking at the User-Agent string in the HTTP request header. Simply serve the appropriate stylesheet - I've implemented this with Perl, PHP, ColdFusion, JavaScript, ASP and god knows what else. I sometimes even include an linux stylesheet removing any odd points sizes (try looking at 9point type on any vanilla Netscape/RedHat install to see what I mean).
I'm sorry Zeldman, but picas, points and inches have far more meaning than you realize. In the near future, when I'm running 4096x3072 on a 20" monitor I'm really not going to want to think about a font in terms of pixels am I? A 24point font should look the same on this screen as it does on a 640x400 13" green screen. Now tell me you can acheive that with pixels?
Currently operating systems are ignorant of pixel density (i.e. bitmap icons etc.) which is why you just can't run Windows at 1600x1200 on a 19" monitor. This will change, GUIs will become vector based, bitmaps will exist in an interpolated sense (anyone remember FIFs?) and pixels will become about as useful a measurement as the furlong.
Channels buying US programs from countries outside the US would have a good reason to be pissed off at this site. In Australia, we get programs up to a couple of seasons after they air in the US.
Given this, TV companies over here are going to feel their product is being diluted by the availability of these shows to Australian viewers well before their air on TV.
Sure NBC, CBS et al. might not give a damn, but they'll have a lot of pressure on them (as will the production houses) from outside the US to stop this site.
And just think what kind of salary rise the Friends stars are going to be asking for now!
I really can't see how we can bitch about nVidia. What was the addition of the Metrowerks code but an invitation for graphics card makers to feel free to write binary drivers for Xfree86 4.0 if they want?
The Xfree86 team made a philosophical decision in including this code, we can't turn around now and flame people for using this technology.
Just as a purely-closed source world sucks, so does a world in which any view other than 'the Open Source way' is slammed. Are we hassling Loki for releasing closed source games? Of course not. The fact is, Linux has got to grow up pretty damn fast, and it needs as much support as it can get from both the Open and Closed source schools.
I can tell you, I would love to see apps like Photoshop, Illustrator, IE, and more games on Linux. I just hope we don't scare these people into thinking it's too great a risk (PR wise) to release closed-source apps for Linux.
A big part of this thread smacks of a community with a distinct lack of maturity.
The only other think that I think Id could and should do is use its marketing clout to get distributors and retailers to treat the Linux version fairly. They should release the Linux version FIRST, and the, when they see it on the shelves, only THEN release the Windows version. they should go to distributors and say "We have the hottest new game in a long time. We're Id. If you want it, then treat Linux fairly."
That's unrealistic. Carmack states the masters for all three platforms will be sent off at the same time. The reason you'll see the Windows version on shelves first is because the retailers and everyone else in that food chain are going to bend over backwards to get shrinkwrapped Windows boxes on their shelves. It's not that they're treating Linux/Mac unfairly -- that's not the case, it's simply that they're going out of their way for Windows.
Id have demonstrated they're going to keep developing cross platform no matter what sales figures come in. But at the end of the day, even Id have to pay employee wages. Id has played a huge part in the movement in getting game developers to look seriously at the Linux platform, but you can't expect one company to fight the entire war for you.
i wonder if there's any way of controlling the volume of the sound... seem's like a pretty cool way to provide sound capability to PDAs [MP3s on Palms etc.]
Although for the expense of producing an LCD screen with a multitude of varying cell sizes to get the frequency range, it'd probably be cheaper to employ a couple of roadies full-time to cary a pair of B&W Nautilis 801's around behind you.
CyberPatrol is essentially a retail product for home users. For home users it works fine -- it is 'override-able' by a master password... not a bad solution for parents as they can [if need be] let their kids into all those holocaust/aids information etc sites that are erroneously blocked.
I take it your potential employer is over 12 years of age? [you never know these days]. The guy that tried to access your site will be a victim of the firewall/proxy version of the product sold to corporations using the very same "CyberNOT" list. Here's what's funny -- their criteria is this:
In evaluating a site for inclusion in the list, we consider the effect of the site on a typical twelve year old searching the Internet unaccompanied by a parent or educator.
I wonder whether CyberPatrol blocks whole domains or just hostnames? If it's only hostnames your ISP could simply map [home2.isp.com] to the same server thus getting around the block. If it's domain names there's no reason why they couldn't map another domain name to the server [for $70 total outlay].
The best cludge? get your potential visitors to go to http://anon.user.anonymizer.com/[http://your.url]
It will work fine so long as Cyber Patrol haven't blocked anonymizer.com
If Microsoft really want to push the web server envelope in the way the author claims they need to truly integrate it into the OS.
They've already gone the first step in that the desktop is essentially a web page with "file window" and "browser window" meaning the same thing. What they need to do now is have the file system served by their web server. that'd really complete the circle. Although I can't exactly say it'd win any medals for security...
As the browser wars rage on, Netscape dump support for their Proprietary DOM and a few million web developers stare, perplexed, at their "best viewed in Netscape" badges -- now rendered redundant.
I hope they do incorporate back in their DOM, as backwards [as well as forwards] compatibility almost relies on the web as its case in point! The fact is, the pre-stylesheet ability to eliminate page borders by stuffing the BODY tag with such properties as MARGINWIDTH="0" and the IE equivalent LEFTMARGIN="0" [or vice-versa, i can't remember] has saved my ass more times than i'd care to count.
Abandoning their previous DOM leaves us pseudo Transistional HTML4.0 developers between a rock and a hard place. Stylesheets aren't well or consistently enough supported to really flex them and often a kludge is your best friend at 3:45am on Monday morning.
But with XML menacing us 'scripters' and promising imminent arrival, from what i understand of it, anyone can take or leave this proprietary DOM when building pages, right?
...and he's obviously been spending too much time gazing at those Office97 avatars. sure he makes some valid points, but then he shits all over them with his subjective, misleading FUD.
i don't even understand the point of linking too him. all we're doing is supporting the magazine he writes for and making it more likely his editor will get him back for more. someone should write to the editor and say what a piece of shit the article is and how it reduces the credibility of their whole production.
One of the best things about R5 is that the kernel supports the Blue & White G3s. Although unless you've got more money than brains, you'd be insane to buy the hardware to run soley LinuxPPC -- it's just too expensive compared to Intel/AMD-based machines.
yep. buy an Olympus -- they make much better digital cameras. They're the only SLR digital cameras I know that don't cost $15K+. I have a 620L and it kicks ass. 3x Zoom, 1280x1024 resolution, and a five frame memory buffer means you can take 3.3 shots/sec! sure beats waiting for those Mavicas to write to floppy! certainly my choice ok hardware for putting images on the web.
sure, it's great to get as much hardware support for Linux as possible but if it came down to lobbying for a particular camera -- why not "a sk olympus" for a little linux support?
great news that the kernel is going to get the addition of such a fully-featured sound driver, the future just keeps looking rosier...
it got me thinking about MIDI -- does anyone know of any MIDI sequencers for Linux? And what MIDI interface hardware is supported, if any. A quick search of Freshmeat simply shows MIDI players [presumably using soundcard wave tables and the like].
it'd be cool to think about using linux for my keyboard -- Cubase4PPC is damn unstable!
here's the pricelist [/. effect claims another]
on
Empeg Shipping
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· Score: 3
well since the site's about as responsive as a tank under water, here's what you were looking for in any case -- the price list:
Empeg Car Player(Blue Display) including car mount, home PSU, cables & software: 4 Gb Disk - $1099 6 Gb Disk - $1199 10 Gb Disk - $1499 14 Gb Disk - $1699 28 Gb Disk - $2499
Alternative Colour Display (Green or Amber) - $20 Additional Slide Bay (for second vehicles) - $40
so it seems that ISS are running around jamming fingers in dykes protecting Windows from an endless stream of script kiddies. although the author took things a little far when he said "The script kiddies are considered especially dangerous." i'd give him especially annoying. i'd say the "especially dangerous" ones are the crackers distributed these 'scripts' in the first place.
aarnet [the australian academic research network] is a high-speed network linking the universities in australia together. since about two years ago they switched to buying their bandwidth from Cable & Wiress Optus [2nd biggest telco in australia].
C&W Optus have their own very fat pipes out of australia. Since getting into the wholesale bandwidth game you'll find C&W Optus actually have a pretty substantial market share [they're Ozemail's upline provider for one].
So hey, relax. And stop looking at all that/*rude*/ code!
no to be too down on Opera, I mean they're already one hell of an underdog competing with Netscape and IE AND trying to get people to shell out their hard-earned clams for a web browser.
the problem is, be they small in download and [relatively] quick in rendering -- their engine is woefully behind the pace. No CSS support, no HTML 4.0 support [3.2 is their current level] -- doh!
BTW:here's a great article that looks at the whole browser deal. The state of Mozilla, the Netscape v. IE wars, iCab and Opera [and there's some spiel on Neoplanet who're supporting the Mozilla rendering engine if you didn't already know].
in the RealAudio interview, ditto compares this new generation of leech-computing to asking a teenager to take out the garbage -- the results will generally be of an unpredictably nature, you need to use the right kind of prodding to get the result you want.
But I just can't get the image of some 13 year old with a biotech leech-array for storing all his gigs of appz and gamez! hmmm and what happens when a 2 ton leech-based car welding robot at the Ford plant decided it's time to knock off for a mid-afternoon snack?
Scarey stuff, I wonder if in 50 years time we'll look back on this the way we now look back on using leeches for blood-letting!
Of course if you don't actually get paid for writing the software, you just got to make the application obfuscated enough that in order to use the product it's necessary for users to buy the 1000 page tome you wrote for O'Reilly.;)
[ Sorry, but Sendmail is really giving me grief at the moment. 1000 pages! for goddsake... ]
I gotta admit, Internet Explorer 5 is a sweet browser -- but only because it's kept up with the pace of the internet where Netscape Navigator has fallen behind.
I think the best thing about IE5 is the render speed. It'd be great to 'borrow' the code for the rendering engine for IE5 and pull it into Mozilla.
I heard that Netscape claims their Communicator 4.6 is acutally faster! Can anyone actually verify this? Try clicking a comment on a really active/. thread and then click the back arrow -- with Netscape 4.5 i've then got enough time to make a pot of coffee before the page is rendered out of cache. With IE the page snaps up instantly.
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Yes Macintosh and PC have different inherent DPI settings (Mac 72, PC 96) - this is the only difference however. How to solve this problem without using pixels? Have two stylesheets! Decide what size you'd like a font to be and then simple convert the "font-size:" attribute to the other platform.
This works perfectly for me. Finding out which platform is viewing your page is as simple as looking at the User-Agent string in the HTTP request header. Simply serve the appropriate stylesheet - I've implemented this with Perl, PHP, ColdFusion, JavaScript, ASP and god knows what else. I sometimes even include an linux stylesheet removing any odd points sizes (try looking at 9point type on any vanilla Netscape/RedHat install to see what I mean).
I'm sorry Zeldman, but picas, points and inches have far more meaning than you realize. In the near future, when I'm running 4096x3072 on a 20" monitor I'm really not going to want to think about a font in terms of pixels am I? A 24point font should look the same on this screen as it does on a 640x400 13" green screen. Now tell me you can acheive that with pixels?
Currently operating systems are ignorant of pixel density (i.e. bitmap icons etc.) which is why you just can't run Windows at 1600x1200 on a 19" monitor. This will change, GUIs will become vector based, bitmaps will exist in an interpolated sense (anyone remember FIFs?) and pixels will become about as useful a measurement as the furlong.
The book rise some important question such as: Technology, is it always good?
You may remember me from such other online essays as:
DeathBots: Destroyers of mankind or Aibo's only real threat this Christmas?
and...
Nanotech: The little engines that could!
Channels buying US programs from countries outside the US would have a good reason to be pissed off at this site. In Australia, we get programs up to a couple of seasons after they air in the US.
Given this, TV companies over here are going to feel their product is being diluted by the availability of these shows to Australian viewers well before their air on TV.
Sure NBC, CBS et al. might not give a damn, but they'll have a lot of pressure on them (as will the production houses) from outside the US to stop this site.
And just think what kind of salary rise the Friends stars are going to be asking for now!
Surely this should have been one of OpenGL's strengths? Epic are saying that Microsoft are more open to developer's input than the OpenGL people.
Open standards aren't really much good if they're kept in a stranglehold by only a limited and closed number of people, are they?
I really can't see how we can bitch about nVidia. What was the addition of the Metrowerks code but an invitation for graphics card makers to feel free to write binary drivers for Xfree86 4.0 if they want?
The Xfree86 team made a philosophical decision in including this code, we can't turn around now and flame people for using this technology.
Just as a purely-closed source world sucks, so does a world in which any view other than 'the Open Source way' is slammed. Are we hassling Loki for releasing closed source games? Of course not. The fact is, Linux has got to grow up pretty damn fast, and it needs as much support as it can get from both the Open and Closed source schools.
I can tell you, I would love to see apps like Photoshop, Illustrator, IE, and more games on Linux. I just hope we don't scare these people
into thinking it's too great a risk (PR wise) to release closed-source apps for Linux.
A big part of this thread smacks of a community with a distinct lack of maturity.
The only other think that I think Id could and should do is use its marketing clout to get distributors and retailers to treat the Linux version fairly. They should release the Linux version FIRST, and the, when they see it on the shelves, only THEN release the Windows version. they should go to distributors and say "We have the hottest new game in a long time. We're Id. If you want it, then treat Linux fairly."
That's unrealistic. Carmack states the masters for all three platforms will be sent off at the same time. The reason you'll see the Windows version on shelves first is because the retailers and everyone else in that food chain are going to bend over backwards to get shrinkwrapped Windows boxes on their shelves. It's not that they're treating Linux/Mac unfairly -- that's not the case, it's simply that they're going out of their way for Windows.
Id have demonstrated they're going to keep developing cross platform no matter what sales figures come in. But at the end of the day, even Id have to pay employee wages. Id has played a huge part in the movement in getting game developers to look seriously at the Linux platform, but you can't expect one company to fight the entire war for you.
forget MP3, with 73GB i'd keep my audio in 44KHz AIFF files!
i wonder if there's any way of controlling the volume of the sound... seem's like a pretty cool way to provide sound capability to PDAs [MP3s on Palms etc.]
Although for the expense of producing an LCD screen with a multitude of varying cell sizes to get the frequency range, it'd probably be cheaper to employ a couple of roadies full-time to cary a pair of B&W Nautilis 801's around behind you.
I take it your potential employer is over 12 years of age? [you never know these days]. The guy that tried to access your site will be a victim of the firewall/proxy version of the product sold to corporations using the very same "CyberNOT" list. Here's what's funny -- their criteria is this:
I wonder whether CyberPatrol blocks whole domains or just hostnames? If it's only hostnames your ISP could simply map [home2.isp.com] to the same server thus getting around the block. If it's domain names there's no reason why they couldn't map another domain name to the server [for $70 total outlay].
The best cludge? get your potential visitors to go to http://anon.user.anonymizer.com/[http://your.url]
It will work fine so long as Cyber Patrol haven't blocked anonymizer.com
great idea, but DAMN! that thing's ugly. Looks like a cross between a furby and Short Curcuit's Johnny 5.
If Microsoft really want to push the web server envelope in the way the author claims they need to truly integrate it into the OS.
They've already gone the first step in that the desktop is essentially a web page with "file window" and "browser window" meaning the same thing. What they need to do now is have the file system served by their web server. that'd really complete the circle. Although I can't exactly say it'd win any medals for security...
But what would you really be proving?
That Linux doesn't scale well.
I hope they do incorporate back in their DOM, as backwards [as well as forwards] compatibility almost relies on the web as its case in point! The fact is, the pre-stylesheet ability to eliminate page borders by stuffing the BODY tag with such properties as MARGINWIDTH="0" and the IE equivalent LEFTMARGIN="0" [or vice-versa, i can't remember] has saved my ass more times than i'd care to count.
Abandoning their previous DOM leaves us pseudo Transistional HTML4.0 developers between a rock and a hard place. Stylesheets aren't well or consistently enough supported to really flex them and often a kludge is your best friend at 3:45am on Monday morning.
But with XML menacing us 'scripters' and promising imminent arrival, from what i understand of it, anyone can take or leave this proprietary DOM when building pages, right?
...and he's obviously been spending too much time gazing at those Office97 avatars. sure he makes some valid points, but then he shits all over them with his subjective, misleading FUD.
i don't even understand the point of linking too him. all we're doing is supporting the magazine he writes for and making it more likely his editor will get him back for more. someone should write to the editor and say what a piece of shit the article is and how it reduces the credibility of their whole production.
One of the best things about R5 is that the kernel supports the Blue & White G3s. Although unless you've got more money than brains, you'd be insane to buy the hardware to run soley LinuxPPC -- it's just too expensive compared to Intel/AMD-based machines.
yep. buy an Olympus -- they make much better digital cameras. They're the only SLR digital cameras I know that don't cost $15K+. I have a 620L and it kicks ass. 3x Zoom, 1280x1024 resolution, and a five frame memory buffer means you can take 3.3 shots/sec! sure beats waiting for those Mavicas to write to floppy! certainly my choice ok hardware for putting images on the web.
sure, it's great to get as much hardware support for Linux as possible but if it came down to lobbying for a particular camera -- why not "a sk olympus" for a little linux support?
great news that the kernel is going to get the addition of such a fully-featured sound driver, the future just keeps looking rosier...
it got me thinking about MIDI -- does anyone know of any MIDI sequencers for Linux? And what MIDI interface hardware is supported, if any. A quick search of Freshmeat simply shows MIDI players [presumably using soundcard wave tables and the like].
it'd be cool to think about using linux for my keyboard -- Cubase4PPC is damn unstable!
well since the site's about as responsive as a tank under water, here's what you were looking for in any case -- the price list:
Empeg Car Player(Blue Display) including car mount, home PSU, cables & software:
4 Gb Disk - $1099
6 Gb Disk - $1199
10 Gb Disk - $1499
14 Gb Disk - $1699
28 Gb Disk - $2499
Alternative Colour Display (Green or Amber) - $20
Additional Slide Bay (for second vehicles) - $40
forget cracking though, think about hacking your own site!
huh?
/*rude*/ code!
aarnet [the australian academic research network] is a high-speed network linking the universities in australia together. since about two years ago they switched to buying their bandwidth from Cable & Wiress Optus [2nd biggest telco in australia].
C&W Optus have their own very fat pipes out of australia. Since getting into the wholesale bandwidth game you'll find C&W Optus actually have a pretty substantial market share [they're Ozemail's upline provider for one].
So hey, relax. And stop looking at all that
the problem is, be they small in download and [relatively] quick in rendering -- their engine is woefully behind the pace. No CSS support, no HTML 4.0 support [3.2 is their current level] -- doh!
BTW: here's a great article that looks at the whole browser deal. The state of Mozilla, the Netscape v. IE wars, iCab and Opera [and there's some spiel on Neoplanet who're supporting the Mozilla rendering engine if you didn't already know].
talking about pushing the marketing-speak to the bearable limit... if i hear the phrase Massively Multiplayer one more time today I'm going to choke!
guess i better check his plan file for the true dope, right?
But I just can't get the image of some 13 year old with a biotech leech-array for storing all his gigs of appz and gamez! hmmm and what happens when a 2 ton leech-based car welding robot at the Ford plant decided it's time to knock off for a mid-afternoon snack?
Scarey stuff, I wonder if in 50 years time we'll look back on this the way we now look back on using leeches for blood-letting!
Of course if you don't actually get paid for ;)
writing the software, you just got to make the
application obfuscated enough that in order to
use the product it's necessary for users to buy
the 1000 page tome you wrote for O'Reilly.
[ Sorry, but Sendmail is really giving me grief
at the moment. 1000 pages! for goddsake... ]
I gotta admit, Internet Explorer 5 is a sweet browser -- but only because it's kept up with the pace of the internet where Netscape Navigator has fallen behind.
/. thread and then click the back arrow -- with Netscape 4.5 i've then got enough time to make a pot of coffee before the page is rendered out of cache. With IE the page snaps up instantly.
I think the best thing about IE5 is the render speed. It'd be great to 'borrow' the code for the rendering engine for IE5 and pull it into Mozilla.
I heard that Netscape claims their Communicator 4.6 is acutally faster! Can anyone actually verify this? Try clicking a comment on a really active